Re: [talk-au] Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size

On 28/09/2023 11:18, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 28/9/23 08:21, cleary wrote: Windorah Qld and Ivanhoe NSW are both currently shown as "town" in OSM but neither has more than rudimentary health service (if any), a hotel, small primary school and service station. I couldn't buy a coffee in

Re: [talk-au] Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size

On 28/09/2023 10:19, Warin wrote: On 28/9/23 17:04, Michael Collinson wrote: TL;DR: We need to get a systematic measure of population density into OSM to act as a guideline for mapping software to vary what goes at what zoom level. Off topic: On a global scale that does not work due

Re: [talk-au] Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size

TL;DR: We need to get a systematic measure of population density into OSM to act as a guideline for mapping software to vary what goes at what zoom level. This can be done either by adding the appropriately calculated/derived density measure to admin boundary relations or, more radically, as

Re: [talk-au] Mapping tracks from Strava heatmap

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Re: [talk-au] power=edge_server

This dataset is not any sort of computing system, they have copied the ACMA mobile network tower information and called it research. This is of course going to be a licensing issue. https://www.acma.gov.au/radiocomms-licence-data Michael From: Nev Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2022 12:38 AM

Re: [talk-au] Melbourne - Suburban Rail Loop - Too early to mark as under construction?

Being a grand cynic or at least just jaundiced,  'proposed' can be translated to "I'll be lucky to see this in my life time", so any actual work at all is a major, major change in significance so I'd go for 'under construction' in at least Graeme's example. Utility works also have an impact on

Re: [talk-au] Cycle permissions by a user

I suggest a good consensus basically following the rest of the world would be: 1) If a path is clearly marked for use by bicycles then use bicycle=designated.  I.e.  "there ARE signs present to indicate bikes are expressily permitted". 2) If a path has no signage barring cycling and no

Re: [talk-au] Usage of Openstreetmap at EMSINA

Graeme, You are one with Steve Coast on seeing that as a major focus. Yes, use and of use.  Anecdotally, I have a peripheral connection with a small commercial app map/routing library and have hobby-business apps Android apps based on it. Yes, definitely of use particularly on longer roads

Re: [talk-au] Cycle tags on motorways

Purely as a question: Is there a case for actually mapping the whole cycleway separately as a cycleway? As a cyclist, I like to see what I have in store. Argument for: Well, that is what it is, a dual use cycleway and hard shoulder. And I guess main argument against: Ah, but it is not

Re: [talk-au] Industrial area or not?

I crafted the original wording for Map Features landuse tags and was careful to use the word "predominantly", so for me just 'industrial'. I think the answer is in your description wording 'produce stockfeed', i.e. there is a manufacturing process beyond just storing an agricultural product -

Re: [talk-au] Queensland railway stations

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Re: [talk-au] Funding for OpenStreetMap initiatives

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Re: [talk-au] HighRouleur edits

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[talk-au] Any ID-edtor savvy mapper who could help with a Young Engineers Australia mapathon?

Hi all, Is there anyone who could help me co-host a Young Engineers Australia mapathon in the March-ish time-frame? I happy to do most of the talking about OpenStreetMap and HOT but I am most definitely not ID-editor savvy. The basic task would be to run through using ID for a specific

Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging Guidelines has been changed by Aaronsta

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Re: [talk-au] "Bad" directions on Outback roads

We have a reasonable if not perfect tagging system for a router to assess (and make assumptions) about the quality of a road for various types of vehicle in BEST CASE  conditions. motorway versus track, tracktype, asphalt versus gravel being the main ones. From a router point of view it would

Re: [talk-au] Tagging a house name

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Re: [talk-au] Tagging Sydney bus stops

local_ref has been used it at least the UK and Sweden to tag the stand number. It doesn't (yet) render on the OSM map main layer but does on the transport layers.    /Mike https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:local_ref Swedish example:

Re: [talk-au] Consistent addr:state format?

It is safer putting in the street name. Nominatim fills in street from the street physically closest to the addr tag, which is not always correct. Sarah is aware and looking at measures to improve that - for example by looking at nearby street numbers for sequentiallity - but I doubt it could

Re: [talk-au] Strange e-mail address?

bounces. On 31/1/22 11:05, Alex Sims wrote: Hi Michael, Gname.org moved to gmane.io almost a year ago. So the subscription to x...@gname.org will never work again and should be deleted. A new link needs to be set to gmane.io so that the NNTP feed via news.gmane.io can work (if desired) https

Re: [talk-au] Strange e-mail address?

I just create lists so I have forwarded this to Tom Hughes in case he can help or elucidate.  /Mike On 31/1/22 10:24 am, Alex Sims wrote: HI Graeme, When you send an email to the list, it then sends a copy to subscribers which includes a mirror at gmane.org. For some reason the copy at

Re: [talk-au] sac_scale [Was: Deletion of walking tracks/paths]

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Re: [talk-au] Tagging "boundary" roads with addr:*

and the road as used by cars often is much smaller then the total area. Checking my area, when a suburb boundary follows a road it is in the centre of the gap between the properties that are either side of the road and that centre line is not always the paved road that you see on the ground. Michael

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Use of Council data in OpenStreetMap

, including copyright, in the information and data provided through TRC's Online Mapping, with the exception of licensed data. These conditions of use do not confer on the user of TRC's Online Mapping any rights of ownership in any data. Michael From: Graeme Fitzpatrick Sent: Thursday, 9 December

Re: [talk-au] The ACT Place Names Advisory Committee has a sense of humour

Phew, Coombs must have been a ruthless place previously. ... Sorry. Mike On 2021-11-30 20:27, Andrew Davidson wrote: So we have a new park in Coombs that needs a name. A name based on the suburb's theme of notable public service:

Re: [talk-au] Suburbs: Nodes, Areas, or both?

Hi Dian, I have an interested in mapping what I call, for want of better terminology, fuzzy names or sense-of-place and comment in that specific regard. In summary: if the suburb has a defined boundary, use an area, if it doesn't use a node. I would certainly NOT however use both to

Re: [talk-au] Cycling on Victorian paths

A bit late to the party on this one. But a couple of observations follow up Graeme's 2012-10-03 point about the myriad of "You can ride on a footpath if" exceptions and how to deal with them. 1) I suggest rigorously using and making synonymous footway=sidewalk [1] with what are clearly and

Re: [talk-au] Mapping tree cover

Picking just Adam's question about mapping after a fire. [I also very much support the idea that OSM ways should ideally have only one primary tag and so agree that natural and boundary does not go together.] I went through a similar self-dialogue where I am now in Sweden as to what to with

Re: [talk-au] Suspicious amount of removed bicycle tags

Just a thought and I hope not too imperialist sounding:  in UK England and Wales law, a distinction evolved between a "footway" and a "footpath", just possibly pre-1900 (unclear): https://pedestrianliberation.org/the-law-2/ "'footway' is the modern legal term for ‘that part of the highway set

Re: [talk-au] Trouble with routing through an intersection

-Original Message- From: Simon Slater Sent: Friday, 3 September 2021 10:00 AM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] Trouble with routing through an intersection On Thursday, 2 September 2021 4:03:16 PM AEST Michael James wrote: > It's possible your change just has

Re: [talk-au] Trouble with routing through an intersection

finding a path. Michael -Original Message- From: Simon Slater Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 3:05 PM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: [talk-au] Trouble with routing through an intersection G'day all, This morning I created a route from Serpentine to Castlemaine

Re: [talk-au] highway=service

I've added my comments below Andrew's. Hope that is not too messy. /Mike On 2021-08-14 03:59, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 at 09:12, Tom Brennan > wrote: Like my previous post on sidewalks, this one is also from walking and cycling all of

Re: [talk-au] Mapping driveways under awnings.

Simon, Without knowing the nature of the challenge, I assume the apparent anomaly is a road apparently bulldozing through a building. Me, I'd either leave it as it is or to be squeaky clean (if I know from on-the-ground) I'd map the two sticky out bits as building=roof. I don't know if

Re: [talk-au] highway=track update

I don't map much in the US but do in Australia and Sweden. In both countries, I have rarely come across what I consider to be gravel roads, instead consider most unpaved roads and tracks to be 'dirt' or 'compacted': https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:surface%3Dcompacted Apropos the

Re: [talk-au] Are Health Centres, hospitals

but only one calls itself a hospital. Not sure QAS offers any walk up facilities anymore, the local one here has a phone out the front to call for help. Michael From: Graeme Fitzpatrick Sent: Friday, 4 September 2020 12:51 PM To: OSM-Au Subject: [talk-au] Are Health Centres, hospitals Over

Re: [talk-au] What do you prefer for Barmah-Millewa: swamp or wood?

Hi Ian, Summary: For me wood is physical tree-cover and wetland is the condition of the ground and they are complimentary rather than exclusive. In Sweden, I map both natural=wood and natural=wetland as separate polygons, with a common border or overlap as appropriate. There is is very easy

Re: [talk-au] Duplicate of the same airport

It is a military base that allows civilian air traffic to use its runway. As far as air traffic goes it's called Williamtown, only the civilian terminal area is called Newcastle airport. (28 hectares of land) https://www.newcastleairport.com.au/corporate/about/board-governance Hope that helps,

Re: [talk-au] Gravel pits?

As someone who drives a lot of country highways they are both temporary and permanent. From: Sebastian S. Sent: Monday, 17 February 2020 11:11 AM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org; Graeme Fitzpatrick ; OSM-Au Subject: Re: [talk-au] Gravel pits? Is this a temporary thing? Or is this similar to

Re: [talk-au] A22 route Sydney

. Confusion will arise as a search for rms listed highway gives this document https://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/business-industry/partners-suppliers/lgr/documents/classified-roads-schedule.pdf But if you read the start it mentions that the route numbers DO NOT line up with named highways. Michael From

Re: [talk-au] Addresses/street numbers

Ah I totally missed this project — looks great! Thanks Dion, I’ll have a crack at contributing. Michael On 3 Jan 2020, 11:07 AM +1100, Dion Moult , wrote: > Good morning Michael! > > Have you seen the NSW address import project? It uses the LPI web services: > > https://gitlab.co

[talk-au] Addresses/street numbers

-level imagery? Interestingly Mapbox does have street numbers where I live, I wonder where they are getting that information. Thanks, Michael ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] local traffic only

Department of Transport and Main Roads website specifically lists “Local Traffic Only” as an official state level sign. https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/safety/signs/instruction (see section “Local traffic restriction signs”) From: Michael James mailto:mich...@techdrive.com.au>> Sent: Mond

Re: [talk-au] local traffic only

They existed prior to 1997 and were removed when the national rules were introduced that year. It’s likely that local councils are unaware that they no longer have any legal purpose. From: Sebastian S. Sent: Sunday, 10 November 2019 9:50 PM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org; Andrew Harvey ;

Re: [talk-au] Melbourne Missing Maps/OSM rep?

Hi Vitva, If you don't get any other volunteers, I'll be happy to come along and answer questions/talk ad hoc but not prepare a talk. I'm not familiar with Missing Maps but have previously served on the OSM Foundation board. Cheers, Mike Michael Collinson On 2019-11-08 13:13, Vilppola

Re: [talk-au] Uluru naming consistency

' in alt_name instead of old_name. If you think about it Uluru *is* the old name...  Thirded! -- ⊨ Michael Gratton, Percept Wrangler. ⚙ <http://mjog.vee.net/> ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/li

Re: [talk-au] Residential Poolside Building

I usually mark all residential buildings, including the main house or strata building, as building=residential.  I feel it useful but safe. I usually map in Sweden where planning regulations encourage a plethora of out-buildings whose use is difficult to judge from imagery: garages, spare

Re: [talk-au] Copying address from business website?

A simple test is: Am I helping their business? If it is the venue business itself, then yes you are. If you take from a listing site - where their value is the list itself, then no you are not, you are potentially acting to its detriment. FYI, your till receipts are another good source. Mike

Re: [talk-au] Proposed deletion of part of the Gwydir River

There are lots of rivers in Australia that do not always have water in them The correct tag is intermittent=yes https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:intermittent Thanks Michael > -Original Message- > From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, 24 Ju

Re: [talk-au] Existing OSM precedent | Re: Aboriginal art sites

e has been a practice in OSM to *not* map certain things, such as private/non-publicized domestic violence shelters, or the nesting sites of endangered birds. So the same logic applies here I think. Both points seconded. -- ⊨ Michael Gratton, Percept Wrangler. ⚙ <http:/

Re: [talk-au] Aboriginal art sites

On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 09:37, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Should that be documented as OSM (maybe AU?) policy, or left to the discretion of individual mappers? Definitely documented as such. -- ⊨ Michael Gratton, Percept Wrangler. ⚙ <http://mjog.vee.

Re: [talk-au] new OpenStreetCam competition

GPS averaging is too slow to deal with the acceleration changes. Thanks Michael From: Martijn van Exel Sent: Tuesday, 19 March 2019 1:08 AM To: OSM Australian Talk List Subject: [talk-au] new OpenStreetCam competition Howdy. We had a good time with the first OpenStreetCam competi

Re: [talk-au] Able to host a tile.osm.org CDN node?

Hi Grant I have most of the hardware in place already for this. The only thing I don’t have right now is a router that can handle the higher speed plan from my ISP that would be required. How urgently do you guys want something in place? Thanks Michael > -Original Message- >

Re: [talk-au] Question on how to fix this intersection

+1 to that. Looking at the eastern side imagery again, I'd make a general comment that will help elsewhere: There really should be a node about where the pedestrian crossing is and pushing the road slightly north. This would bring it closer the traffic engineer's intention, which is that the

Re: [talk-au] Question on how to fix this intersection

Hi Dion, I'd say a bit of both. The junction is topologically correct but looking at the aerial imagery and the node that you circled, https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1691043684 , then it could be moved very slightly north and a bit more aggressively west to lessen the change of

Re: [talk-au] Naming Bus Stops for interchanges in Sydney

In Sweden, I have seen the "F" going into the ref tag. Just a thought, I don't recall how it affects rendering in common schemes. Con: Clash with a more rigorous ref num giving by the transport authority, "40459" or such. Another (complementary) practice is to put just "F" as the name - which

Re: [talk-au] Ferry Routes mapping in NSW

> -Original Message- > From: Andrew Harvey > Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2018 1:45 PM > To: OSM Australian Talk List > Subject: Re: [talk-au] Ferry Routes mapping in NSW > It seems the branching of ways in the open water that results from mapping > ferry routes as relations is causing

Re: [talk-au] TMR Road Centerlines dataset

> -Original Message- > From: Andrew Harvey > Sent: Saturday, 17 November 2018 3:00 PM > To: OSM Australian Talk List > Subject: Re: [talk-au] TMR Road Centerlines dataset > > On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 at 12:29, Joel H. wrote: > > > > Thats pretty cool, I might compare a few of these roads.

Re: [talk-au] Road name abbreviation exception?

ons such as the St George Building Society and the St Kilda Football Club naturally use the abbreviation. It goes on but I can’t copy-paste from there so I had to type that, feel free to read it at your leisure. Michael From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, 29 June 201

Re: [talk-au] Road name abbreviation exception?

be English (Unlike Canada) What we might have to consider is that in indexing you use Saint not St, do we need to have it explicitly in the tagging (ie alt_name) or is this the responsibility of the renderer to work out? Michael From: Nemanja Bračko Sent: Friday, 29 June 2018 5:02 PM

Re: [talk-au] State names

I assume we are specifically talking about addr:state ? If so the connotation is on the state as part of a postal address rather than as a place per se. Therefore I suggest using capitalised abbreviation and that the document Warin quotes is

Re: [talk-au] Morton Bay National Park should have it's ID numbers under ref=

I also agree. Putting other info into a name is not good practice. Separation allows map renderer and search functionality to decide what to do rather than being forced into something. I personally like to tag in a generic way as possible and therefore would use the "ref" tag as my choice.

[talk-au] FW: Am I doing intersections right?

gt; -Original Message- > From: Michael <m.ja...@internode.on.net> > Sent: Tuesday, 24 April 2018 19:33 > To: 'OSM Australian Talk List' <talk-au@openstreetmap.org> > Subject: Re: [talk-au] Am I doing intersections right? > > Ok it seems the OSM website will not

Re: [talk-au] Am I doing intersections right?

Ok it seems the OSM website will not centre you on an area from a link but takes you back to the last area you looked at. Now ... I have removed 2 tags from the slip lane sections. -Original Message- From: Michael <m.ja...@internode.on.net> Sent: Tuesday, 24 April 2018 7

Re: [talk-au] Am I doing intersections right?

For some reason it wont show me the location of the pins when I go to that link. I had looked at that area once before and noticed some odd stuff in josm but left it alone. I've gone back in with josm and made some changes, if the routing starts working (note sure on caching times before we

Re: [talk-au] I have written a response to DNRM, please give feedback

I am the Michael Collinson mentioned by Simon, (hello Simon, it has been a while!). I still lurk on this list and after a long gap will be spending time in Australia each year. I am in Melbourne at the moment and look forward to meeting mappers here on my hopefully less busy visit later

Re: [talk-au] Mapping Indigenous Place Names

You need :- http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/codes.asp Don’t forget to select ‘N’ as it only shows the ones starting with the letter selected. From: David Dean [mailto:dd...@ieee.org] Sent: Friday, 26 January 2018 10:34 PM To: Andy Mabbett Cc: OSM

Re: [talk-au] Residential/commercial property boundaries

Yes, as I said landuse doesn't seem to be what I'm after here. What was the objection to fine grained land ownership in OSM? Seems like a particularly useful thing to have in. Is it just "imports suck"? //Mike -- ⊨ Michael Gratton, Percept Wrangler. ⚙ <http://mjog.vee.net/>

Re: [talk-au] Residential/commercial property boundaries

rders would have been a useful way to indicate addresses - also seems more correct than using buildings, to my mind anyway. //Mike -- ⊨ Michael Gratton, Percept Wrangler. ⚙ <http://mjog.vee.net/> On Sun, 3 Jan, 2016 at 10:30 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 3/01/2016 9:

[talk-au] Residential/commercial property boundaries

something like: area=yes addr:housenumber=... addr:street=... But then Karlsruhe says that buildings should be tagged with the addr:* tags instead? Any suggestions? //Mike -- ⊨ Michael Gratton, Percept Wrangler. ⚙ <http://mjog.vee.net/> __

[talk-au] Data for OSM + talk at UNSW

that all sound reasonable? Any suggestions of resources/nifty things to demo in the presentation gratefully accepted. //Mike -- ⊨ Michael Gratton, Percept Wrangler. ⚙ http://mjog.vee.net/ ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [talk-au] Question - names of motorways leaving Sydney

What you have suggested seems good to me Mark. Regards, Michael H. On 7/09/2014 4:10 PM, Mark Pulley wrote: When the new alphanumeric route numbers in NSW were unveiled, some of the motorways were renamed (e.g. Sydney-Newcastle Freeway became Pacific Motorway, South-Western Motorway became

Re: [talk-au] Wither Sydney suburb boundaries?

On Tue, 29 Apr, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Alex Sims a...@softgrow.com wrote: On 28 Apr 2014, at 1:53 pm, Michael Gratton m...@vee.net wrote: On a related note, what's the appropriate way to map suburb-sized areas that are partitions? A way for each suburb that share nodes along common borders

Re: [talk-au] Wither Sydney suburb boundaries?

On Mon, 28 Apr, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 April 2014 14:23, Michael Gratton m...@vee.net wrote: So you are saying the ABS suburb boundaries should be checked individually rather than imported en mass? How do you know that the quality of the GNB

Re: [talk-au] Wither Sydney suburb boundaries?

Hey Ian, On Sun, 27 Apr, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: I don't really agree. I think we need suburb boundaries to be as accurate as we can make them at the time we create them, and not do a mass import leaving us with thousands of FIXMEs. Importing data we know

Re: [talk-au] Wither Sydney suburb boundaries?

, however inaccurate, be better than nothing? //Mike Email sent to sds.copyri...@lpi.nsw.gov.au: On Mon, 21 Apr, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Michael Gratton m...@vee.net wrote: Hello, I am a contributor to Open Street Map (OSM)[1], a world-wide, collaboratively edited, open project to create a global

Re: [talk-au] path undre overhanging cliff?

Oooh! I'll bikeshed, err I mean bite! Is the path underground, so could you use layer=-1? If not, then layer=0 sounds good to me. //Mike On Fri, 4 Apr, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Frank sundowne...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Here is a nice puzzel? How would you tag a path that lies under an

Re: [talk-au] Growth in OSM usage.

On 5 March 2014 7:21:28 PM Dssis1 david.sisour...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, just letting you guys know that the East-West Link page now uses a OSM map to show drilling locations. Now if only we could get governments building /useful/ transport infrastructure, it would be a win-win! :/ --

Re: [talk-au] Mapping Gallipoli

Hi Warin, First,  wonderful idea,  my grandad fought there with the 2nd AIF and being able to relate dry names in books to actual places is very satisfying ... whether just looking at the map or making an actual visit. I think it well worth approaching Australian War Memorial. As OpenStreetMap

Re: [talk-au] Taking OSM to the Garmin

On 12/07/13 12:42, Brett Russell wrote: Hi All Trouble I been Windows based means even simple things like reading the type file is made hard until you wake up that Windows default Notepad is useless as it does not understand line feeds. You want to get yourself Notepad++ then, it will do

Re: [talk-au] Newcastle Inner Bypass - Motorway or not ?

On 01/06/13 14:32, Ian Sergeant wrote: On 1 June 2013 09:29, Michael James m.ja...@internode.on.net wrote: There is a legal difference between a divided highway and a freeway in Australia, so if it is not actually called a freeway/motorway via signage then it really isn't one. Firstly

Re: [talk-au] Newcastle Inner Bypass - Motorway or not ?

On 29/05/13 22:51, Ian Sergeant wrote: I'd like to indicate freeway class sections as motorways, however, I can see the argument to just objectively use the RMS classifications. Will save edit wars down the track to just have one easy rule. There is a legal difference between a divided

Re: [talk-au] Newcastle Inner Bypass - Motorway or not ?

On 29/05/13 10:40, Ben Johnson wrote: Any thoughts on whether the completed sections of the Newcastle Inner City Bypass (now being referred to by the RMS as A37 - Newcastle Outer Ring Road) should be classified as type Motorway …? If they're calling it A37 then they're not calling it a

Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap in Government

make use of them. //Mike -- ⊨ Michael Gratton, Percept Wrangler. ⚙ http://mjog.vee.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Using multipolygon to create large lake

, Michael ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Export a route?

On 22/02/13 18:53, David Clark wrote: Is there a way I can export a route as osm or gpx or kml from Openstreetmap. ie Mawson trail: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?relation=153983 I just want the lines that are part of this relation and nothing else. You can do this in josm very easily 1

Re: [talk-au] NSW Transport Data Exchange (TDX)

for use for a initial import to OSM? On 22/01/13 23:17, Michael Gratton wrote: From the sounds of it, one thing they are anxious is having old route/timetable data being out in public. I'm not sure whats wrong with keeping historical records... In my view, the less restrictions they place

Re: [talk-au] NSW Transport Data Exchange (TDX)

change, routes do seem to come and go more frequently. It wouldn't be too hard for someone to run a process on a server somewhere to keep tabs on changes in the feed and update the map as needed, but it seems like some coordination there would be a good thing. //Mike -- ⊨ Michael Gratton, Percept

Re: [talk-au] NSW Transport Data Exchange (TDX)

in addition to stops. The data is there, it just needs a decent licence. //Mike -- ⊨ Michael Gratton, Percept Wrangler. ⚙ http://mjog.vee.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] NSW Transport Data Exchange (TDX)

?), apply the change 4. Otherwise flag it as needing attention Similarly for additions, and deletions. So the bot acts much like an individual contributor, except that it uses the feed as a data source rather than GPS. //Mike -- ⊨ Michael Gratton, Percept Wrangler. ⚙ http://mjog.vee.net

[talk-au] NSW Transport Data Exchange (TDX)

://tdx.131500.com.au/terms-conditions.php, I assume this would be a deal breaker for OSM? //Mike -- ⊨ Michael Gratton, Percept Wrangler. ⚙ http://mjog.vee.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Australia Postcodes - using AusPost database

:-( I just looked at the license you referenced and it is very, very restrictive. So no. Both the old and new OSM licenses allow commercial usage, (otherwise it would not be an open license). Some publishers if specifically and courteously asked *may* make an exception as OpenStreetMap

[talk-au] Fwd: cities changed to towns

(or probably Wyndham) should definelty qualify for place=town something in similar size in a more densely populated area might not. So my concern is more along the lines that even if a place legally/formally is a city I wouldn't automatically imply place=city. Michael

Re: [talk-au] cities changed to towns

On 11/12/12 13:26, John Henderson wrote: On 11/12/12 09:17, Chris Barham wrote: I really do think Gympie, Maryborough, Warwick and Charters Towers are cities, and should have remained tagged as such. Are there others, in other states, within this changeset that should have stayed as is?

Re: [talk-au] Tagging dirt and 4x4 roads - new approach

I am an intermittent user of dirt roads and I support this proposal as the best way forward. Michael Cleary On 24 November 2012 15:59, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net wrote: OK, time I decided we don't really have any prospect of changing approved tags to address the dirt road

Re: [talk-au] tagging 4WD and dirt roads - I give up.

in Germany there's a special German style available ([3]). But I assume the problem is to have enough ressources for this... I didn't entirely follow this thread so I hope this isn't something which came up earlier and which I have missed. Michael - [1] http://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] News on national border

Hi, I've just uploaded the first segment [1]. It runs from somewhere north of Newcastle along the NSW and Victoria coast almost to Wilsons Promotory [2]. If there aren't any objections I will continue to upload the remaining segements within a couple of days. Michael - [1] http

[talk-au] News on national border

the tools in a different order to improve the geometry of the output. So now [2] shows the result I would personally suggest to upload as the national border. Michael - [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Ohr/Australian_national_border [2] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3882550/OSM

Re: [talk-au] National borders

segment. I guess it's a bit like in the story The princess and the pea ;-) Michael ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] National borders

on the page. 3. Upload the borders currently there (things aren't working properly right now). This would be one of the next steps if we agree on this process. 4. Work to increase the accuracy. 5. Update the borders accordingly. This sound pretty good to me. Michael

Re: [talk-au] National borders

of the data. Especially I used a buffer of 0.2 degrees instead of exactly 12 nautical miles so the distance is always a bit too short. Michael - [1] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3882550/OSM/NationalBorder.osm.bz2 [2] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3882550/OSM/ComputedCoastline.png

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