Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Sidewalks as footpaths

2014-05-08 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: The biggest issue here is usage. It's not what mappers should do, but What mappers actually do and what mappers actually do is not to create relations. Most sidewalks are either mapped as separate ways, as attributes,

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Sidewalks as footpaths

2014-05-08 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Chris Lawrence lordsu...@gmail.com wrote: Audio routing (so you can put your phone in your pocket and listen to headphones) and audio/braille descriptions for the disabled would be the most obvious use cases for names. In fact, I'd imagine the disabled are a

[OSM-legal-talk] Audubon Birds Pro

2014-05-06 Thread Clifford Snow
I noticed that the Android Audubon Birds Pro uses OSM maps for some of their maps. Mostly it is just Google, but when adding sighting, OSM maps are used. They are not attributing OSM, but do give Google attribution. I have sent the developer, Green Mountain Digital a nice email asking for

Re: [Talk-us] Sidewalks as footpaths

2014-05-06 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 6:36 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: As an American, I'd say tracing out the sidewalk is perfectly legitimate, considering jaywalking laws that typically apply in locations with sidewalks, the total non universal nature of sidewalks. +1 -- @osm_seattle

Re: [Talk-us] Last call spring #editathon

2014-04-29 Thread Clifford Snow
Seattle's event had a good turn out. We had about 9 people, although some people came late and others left early. We had a mix of new people and experienced ones. Thanks to the OSM-US we now have OSM vests that Paul Norman brought down from Vancouver. It is interesting that we had new people that

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Inspector and streets with E/N/S/W in their name

2014-04-29 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: In looking at its current error messages and warnings, I find many situations in the US where the way itself has a name tag of South Apple Tree Road but the house has an addr:street tag of just Apple Tree Road. This

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Upload of copyrighted map images from OSM to Facebook

2014-04-15 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: contact Facebook and if they are not willing to make an exception to their terms we'll have to delete our accounts there (seems to be the only way to remove images according to their terms). In case of the

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Advices on OSM mobile applications for IPhone and Ipad handy for field work in humanitarian contexts

2014-04-08 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 6:52 AM, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.comwrote: GoMap!! is a really good app even for editing. +1 GoMap!! is the best editor for OSM. I only wish I had an iOS device! -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch

Re: [OSM-talk] admin_level 4 rendering

2014-04-07 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Felix Delattre m...@delattre.de wrote: I was going over the departmentos (admin_level=4) in Nicaragua yesterday. And it does not explain to me why the names of them not getting rendered in Mapnik. Please compare: * Province (admin_level=4) in Costa Rica:

Re: [OSM-talk] Launching OpenAddresses

2014-03-26 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Johan C osm...@gmail.com wrote: Open data initiatives will help in acquiring address data: for example by July 2015 close to 200 million addresses in the EU will be available for OSM because of a change in the national laws. For me having addresses and

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Improper Map Use

2014-03-25 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:07 PM, jonathan jonat...@bigfatfrog67.me wrote: How does one challenge OSM use that breaks the license? Go here: http://www.wildlifetrusts.org/reserves/trench-wood-nature-reserve Scroll down and you'll see a Google Map/Image, if you change the layer to OSM the

Re: [Talk-us] Launching OpenAddresses

2014-03-25 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: As some of you know, I've been working on collecting as much address data as possible for the last couple years. I had created a spreadsheet to track progress for myself and others had contributed their own entries. That

[OSM-talk] Crimea/Russia/Ukraine Borders

2014-03-18 Thread Clifford Snow
I'm curious how OSM handles this dispute. I expect Russia's parliament ratify the annexation and I expect that Ukraine will continue to disagree. Do we have a documented process in place to determine when the border is changed? I couldn't find anything on the wiki after a quick search. If it is

Re: [OSM-talk] Crimea/Russia/Ukraine Borders

2014-03-18 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: The DWG has an OSMF approved process for handling political disputes. There's no reason to start a flamewar about this. Serge, Rather than start a flamewar, I was looking for the process. A well document process is a

Re: [OSM-talk] Crimea/Russia/Ukraine Borders

2014-03-18 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: Actually our policy on such matters (not on edit wars) is documented here http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Policies_and_other_Documents Simon, Thanks - That helps. I didn't think of looking at the Foundations wiki. While not

Re: [OSM-talk] No Changeset Comments from iD

2014-03-06 Thread Clifford Snow
Toby, this is great data. Thanks. On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Here, let's have some numbers. As of the last changeset dump (Feb. 28th) iD: total changesets: 1,744,610 changesets with a comment: 745,774 43% comment rate What got me first was the

[OSM-talk] No Changeset Comments from iD

2014-03-05 Thread Clifford Snow
Why do I see so many new mappers make edits without a commit comment? Is it because iD doesn't prompt for a commit message? iD issue 1488 is open but not acted upon. I wonder why. Is it because the developers don't think commit comments are needed? I'm wondering what the community thinks. Are

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-27 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: I think we can divide features to virtual and physical features. Virtual: highway centerlines, waterway centerlines, administrative borders, industrial and residental landuse, parks Physical: riverbanks, buildings,

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-25 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 11:15 AM, hbogner hbog...@gmail.com wrote: I'll always make polygon separate from the road. One of the reasons is that we mark road only with it's centerline and not whole dimensions, shape and width. And if we connect the polygon to that centerline we create false

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-25 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Mike Thompson miketh...@gmail.com wrote: The edges of some polygons are truly coincident with road centerlines. For example, many municipal boundaries. That may be true, but it doesn't mean we need to connect roads with polygons. As was stated in a post from a

[OSM-talk] Nominatim

2014-02-15 Thread Clifford Snow
When searching for a point of interest, such as Guild 45th Theatre in Seattle, Nominatim return the following: Cinema Guild 45th Theatre, North 45th Street, Fremont, Wallingford, Seattle, King, Washington, 98103, United States of America. But the POI is also contained within a building outline

[OSM-talk] Need help finding an existing iD Training Syllabus

2014-01-29 Thread Clifford Snow
I've been asked to submit a proposal to teach iD at an upcoming conference. Rather than reinvent the wheel, I'm hoping to steal/borrow syllabus/proposal for teaching iD. If you know of one, please point me in the right direction. If you do, I promise to name an upcoming changeset after you. --

[Talk-us] Need help finding an existing iD Training Syllabus

2014-01-29 Thread Clifford Snow
I've been asked to submit a proposal to teach iD at an upcoming conference. Rather than reinvent the wheel, I'm hoping to steal/borrow syllabus/proposal for teaching iD. If you know of one, please point me in the right direction. If you do, I promise to name an upcoming changeset after you. --

[OSM-talk] How to Tag Closed Airport

2014-01-25 Thread Clifford Snow
An airport recently closed. How should it be tagged? The airfield is still there, it just not operational. http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/107422#map=15/46.2171/-119.2058layers=N website of field announcing closure: http://www.vistafield.org/ -- Clifford @osm_seattle OpenStreetMap: Maps with

Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups

2014-01-22 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:59 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: The publicity aspect of Meetup really gets people to your events. Though i wonder if these people are the long term contributors to OSM that we want. It is in part a numbers game. Only a small percentage will become

Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups

2014-01-22 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: Not to toot my own horn, but I gave a talk on this very subject at SOTM US 2013, which you can watch here: http://vimeopro.com/openstreetmapus/state-of-the-map-us-2013/video/68098498 Among my key points

[Talk-us] New Topo Maps for Idaho and New Mexico

2014-01-22 Thread Clifford Snow
http://www.directionsmag.com/pressreleases/new-us-topo-idaho-and-new-mexico-quads-available/379576 The article mentions the release of new quads for Idaho and New Mexico. -- Clifford @osm_seattle OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups

2014-01-21 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us The reply I received back from Laura Blackett, Meetup.com, is show below. They do not offer any corporate sponsored group rates nor can third parties pay for accounts. If OSM-US

Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups

2014-01-15 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: What's wrong with using Google+'s events functionality? Almost everyone with an Android and everyone with hosting through Google, is on YouTube or a gmail account has this. Paul, I've never even heard of Google+ events

[OSM-legal-talk] Attribution Requirements

2014-01-09 Thread Clifford Snow
on the application toolbar? [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Aj7RFoZ4Ky4Bdo3LPbuLsTVmfOonJbglgR2bg0FpFWo/edit?usp=sharing Thanks, Clifford Snow -- Clifford OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS updating

2014-01-09 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Jason Remillard remillard.ja...@gmail.comwrote: If you find a problematic GNIS node (especially natural feature), you should consider sending an email to gnis_mana...@usgs.gov as another QA point for OSM, rather than just deleting it. Great advise. Can you

[OSM-talk] Bitcoin

2013-12-10 Thread Clifford Snow
Found this website this morning, http://coinmap.org/ that displays all of the bitcoin tags in OSM. The page has instructions on how to add a bitcoin location in OSM. The instructions did caution against adding a location with no physical presence. -- Clifford OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human

Re: [OSM-talk] Bitcoin

2013-12-10 Thread Clifford Snow
businesses wanting to be added to OSM for visibility. I wonder how that could be transferred to all the shop owners? On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Michael Reichert naka...@gmx.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Clifford, Am 10.12.2013 15:42, schrieb Clifford Snow

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] A new tracing layer for TIGER 2013

2013-12-08 Thread Clifford Snow
Eric, A big help would be to have an understanding of how ways are displayed on the overlay. I see different shapes and colors. What do they represent? I can help with the name expansion. I have a fair number of abbreviations that I've used in Washington State. BTW is your code at

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] A new tracing layer for TIGER 2013

2013-12-08 Thread Clifford Snow
existing, but were flagged as being outdated. Is it because they are not exactly the same as the tiger data? BTW, I really appreciate the work you are putting into helping us fix streets along with Martijn's Battlegrid. Clifford On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Clifford Snow cliff

Re: [Talk-us] A new tracing layer for TIGER 2013

2013-12-08 Thread Clifford Snow
existing, but were flagged as being outdated. Is it because they are not exactly the same as the tiger data? BTW, I really appreciate the work you are putting into helping us fix streets along with Martijn's Battlegrid. Clifford On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Clifford Snow cliff

Re: [OSM-talk] French municipalities boundaries video...

2013-12-04 Thread Clifford Snow
Congratulations to you and all the mappers and developers who made this possible. -- Clifford OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Long tail challenges - was: Re: Bitcoin Spam

2013-12-04 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: I think the criterion has to be physically, not registered. Many business are registred but don't exist physically excepted on a named postbox. Physical fits better. There are many unregistered businesses that have physical

Re: [Talk-us] Bing imagery update

2013-12-04 Thread Clifford Snow
Check out Bing Aerial Imagery Analyzer for OpenStreetMap, http://ant.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/. Someone posted a link about it on the Canadian talk list this morning. Another one of Martijn van Exel great contributions to OSM. On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Alexander Jones

Re: [Talk-us] Bing imagery update

2013-12-04 Thread Clifford Snow
are pointing to is actually a much improved fork of a much simpler thing I built a few years ago, so I can't take much credit for this :) On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: Check out Bing Aerial Imagery Analyzer for OpenStreetMap, http

Re: [OSM-talk] Element on OSM which don't exist in real life

2013-12-02 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Sebastian Arcus s.ar...@open-t.co.ukwrote: 2. All across these fields: http://osm.org/go/TY2PBU33 there are numerous roads - some of them even with names and/or codes. On satellite view they appear to be nothing more than dirt tracks at best - some of them

[Talk-us] Change.org Petition to Keep Satellite Imagery Available for Humanitarian Relief Efforts in the Phillppines

2013-11-25 Thread Clifford Snow
A petition to keep imagery available for humanitarian GIS relief efforts in the Philippines. See below for info, and here is a link to the petition in English (the original link is a French translation).

[Talk-us] Editithon Results

2013-11-21 Thread Clifford Snow
Has there been any published results of the last editathon? -- Clifford OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Locations for State of the Map US 2014

2013-11-15 Thread Clifford Snow
Just to remind everyone, we have a sign in the Fremont neighborhood of Seattle that claims it is the Center of the Universe. On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Friday, November 15, 2013, wrote: Seeing as how the “official” location of the lower 48’s

Re: [Talk-us] Locations for State of the Map US 2014

2013-11-15 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Nathan Mills nat...@nwacg.net wrote: Sorry, the center of the universe is in Tulsa on the pedestrian bridge across the railroad tracks downtown. Also, Postgres tells me that the geographic center of the lower 48 is at 39.5359,-99.1558 (ish) That is only the

Re: [Talk-us] Locations for State of the Map US 2014

2013-11-13 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Darrell Fuhriman darr...@garnix.orgwrote: Having recently visited St Louis, I think that would be a great location. Inexpensive, well connected by air, and with several charming, walkable neighborhoods. Plus there are a number of Universities that might have

Re: [Talk-us] Locations for State of the Map US 2014

2013-11-13 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: i note from the wiki page that SOTM is trying to go for a longer baseline in organizing these events. i think that OSM US should also think in those terms. it would be really nice if, during the closing session of

Re: [Talk-us] Ferries

2013-11-08 Thread Clifford Snow
If we have consensus on what the US thinks is appropriate, then I agree that it belongs on the tag list. Does anyone have objection to bringing a proposal to create a highway=ferry_link tag? I'd especially like to hear from people working with routing (that's you Telenav) Is ferry_link the

Re: [Talk-us] Battle Grid new improved

2013-11-07 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: See my diary entry, http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mvexel/diary/20338 The Battle Grid is now colored based on where many people drive, instead of simply urban / rural according to census CDP boundaries. Thanks for the

Re: [Talk-us] Ferries

2013-11-07 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 8:49 AM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: A very big +1 to this. Posing a challenge to the construction of an accurate routing algorithm is a poor excuse to propose rippling through data changes for what would essentially be a one-off convenience. Greg Troxel's

Re: [Talk-us] Admin borders in the US

2013-11-06 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Jason Remillard remillard.ja...@gmail.comwrote: The inconsistency is caused by those that insist on defining the project in terms of things that can be verified on the ground. My definition of the project has no inconsistency. A free map of the entire world.

Re: [OSM-talk] Admin borders/separate database

2013-11-05 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: - I do not see how filters in editors do anything more to this issue than make it worse, particularly in the case when the border has been merged with an other object. Do you make the object immutable? Or do you simply hide

Re: [OSM-talk] Admin borders/separate database

2013-11-05 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Martin Koppenhöfer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote: Do you mean borders are a problem in general, or are there specific problems related to specific borders like those mentioned in this thread? I was responding to the thread. Sorry for the confusion -- Clifford

Re: [Talk-us] Admin borders in the US

2013-11-03 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: what i favor is going to a multi layer approach where some layers of OSM are ground verifiable things and others may not be. a consumer could choose to use some layers, and the admin boundaries (which are a real

Re: [Talk-ca] Web cameras

2013-10-24 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Matthew Buchanan matthew.ian.bucha...@gmail.com wrote: Are web cameras an appropriate source for OSM? Specifically these ones from the BC Ministry of Transportation and Infrastructure. http://wcs.pbaeng.com/projects/PMH1 A user in Seattle added surveillance

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-22 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: It really depends on the legal situation, sometimes sharing nodes is the right thing to do (if the boundary is defined as being the river for instance), sometimes it is to be seen distinctly (when the boundary

Re: [Talk-us] Fall Editathon Seattle Edition

2013-10-22 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Lars Ahlzen l...@ahlzen.com wrote: By the way, I've helped hosting a few mapping parties/editathons in the past, and one of the things I noticed this time was how much easier iD is for beginners to pick up than Potlatch. Kudos to the iD team for making a

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-21 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Having edited over a thousand of them, I would not be sad to see admin boundaries removed from the general OSM database. I think Russ is on to something with his ClosedStreetMap concept although that is some terrible

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-19 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Jason Remillard remillard.ja...@gmail.comwrote: Everybody has these rules of thumb about what OSM is and isn't. I could write a couple of pages with all of my rules about imports. But, my number one rule is that if there is a individual or group that want to

[Talk-us] Fall Editathon Seattle Edition

2013-10-19 Thread Clifford Snow
We had a great first day of map hacking in Seattle. I'd like to especially thank Martijn van Exel for creating maproulette.org/battlegrid. Our group is attacking the misaligned roads in Washington State using Battlegrid. For those that haven't used battlegrid, it is a visual tool to find

Re: [Talk-us] Ferries

2013-10-18 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Evin Fairchild evindf...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting idea, but since there's not a whole ton of ferry terminals worldwide, I don't know if it would be worthwhile to create a whole new highway=* tag just for this. I don't really mind the service=ferry tag; it

Re: [Talk-us] Current status with highway shields?

2013-10-09 Thread Clifford Snow
+1 In a conversation with a King County (Washington) employee, we discussed his project to create tiles from OSM to use as basemaps for King County and hopefully others. While he doesn't need our tile server, the shields would really enhance the basemaps. On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Evin

Re: [Talk-us] 'Michigan' lefts in Arizona

2013-10-07 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: So apparently these are not confined to Michigan. Anyone from the Tuscon area mapping these or planning to? Are there any other non-Michigan Michigan lefts? I know the intersection in Tucson. Last year when I was down

[Talk-us] OSM US Chapter Board Elections

2013-10-05 Thread Clifford Snow
Just want to give my thanks to the current board and wish everyone good luck in the elections. The slate of candidates is extremely strong. It made choosing difficult, but reassuring that no matter who is elected, we have good people running the Chapter. -- Clifford OpenStreetMap: Maps with a

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Postal Code Extract

2013-08-30 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Eric Fischer e...@pobox.com wrote: Or if you just want the US zip code polygons and don't care if you get them from OSM or somewhere else, you could just download the shapefile of Census Zip Code Tabulation Areas from

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Postal Code Extract

2013-08-30 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 3:12 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.comwrote: You may want to double-check with the Post Office, to find out whether there is the possibility that there may legitimately be outliers in some cases. I don't think the US Post Office guarantees that zip codes will

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-21 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: t really is a brilliant peace of software. +1 -- Clifford OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls

2013-07-28 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Stefan Keller sfkel...@gmail.com wrote: I think such highscores don't belong (yet) to the main website os OSM. So what I still like to find out, is, what triggered the opposition to gamification. I can't find Saman mentioning gamification in his presentation

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-21 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com wrote: We had excellent turnout yesterday in San Francisco with almost 20 people in Code for America's Ben Franklin room. We got a lot of newcomers who had attended the June SOTM and were interested in contributing, a near 50/50

Re: [OSM-talk] Using OpenStreetMap on a daily basis

2013-07-20 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.comwrote: To date OSM is run by a group of mappers that caters to mappers. There is an unlikely but burning desire to somehow turn more ordinary muggles into mappers. It is as if the map was meant to be made, not used: and it's

Re: [OSM-talk] Bringing new life to the OSM.org front page

2013-07-20 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.comwrote: Personally, I'm loving the work Saman (and team) is doing - there are some really nice ideas shown in his slides. I agree it looks elegant. I can't wait to see him implement the rest of his proposals. --

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, I think that a goal of increasing active mappers is really smart-- perhaps we could set annual or quarterly targets for ourselves? Tracking and publicizing the data monthly should be step 1.

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: This doesn't have to wait for funding, or permission! There are hundreds of OpenStreetMap ambassadors reading this list, right now. Are you saying that you are satisfied with the number of active US mappers? Really?

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: The local dimension of OpenStreetMap was exactly why OSM US decided to do #editathons. There's one happening this weekend, join us. http://openstreetmap.us/2013/07/july-summer-editathon/ Our group is signed up. (Seattle)

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: We need publicity! Yes! Publicity is in my opinion one of the biggest things we need and should try and work on as a group. snip When I was in DC, t the Washington Post to covered MappingDC. The Washington

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Kai Krueger kakrue...@gmail.com wrote: I think that is partly due to a failure of tools and expectations. Too many tools are still geared towards the initial large scale acquisition of data. There indeed you will likely have a pattern of a few contributors

[Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-18 Thread Clifford Snow
We have over 200 mappers contributing to OSM in the US driving us to second place, but way behind Germany. Look at OSM Stats for the details. http://osmstats.altogetherlost.com/index.php?item=countries Second place is good, but I wonder what we could be if we made it our goal to increase the

Re: [Talk-us] Bridge naming

2013-07-01 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Clay Smalley claysmal...@gmail.com wrote: I think it makes perfect sense to separate it into name=* and bridge:name=* tags. The bridge:name=* currently isn't rendered, but theoretically, it could be rendered differently and in a more appropriate/eye-catching

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS?

2013-06-17 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: At one time, there was a plan for the USGS to use updated GNIS from OSM, but I think that plan has become stranded on the island of license incompatibility. Therefore, even the GNIS id tag isn't critical IMO. At last years

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS?

2013-06-16 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Thomas Colson thomas_col...@nps.govwrote: Is it preferable to keep the original GNIS tags if updating a GNIS object in OSM? E.g. updating say the location and elevation, everything else is the same. In context, GNIS mountain is here, but really it's there

Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow

2013-06-15 Thread Clifford Snow
I wonder if it time to accept that we are unable to reach a consensus. Can we agree to let the local community decide which way to proceed? They are in the best position to know the issues surrounding neighborhood borders. There didn't seem to be any show-stoppers in the arguments for

Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow

2013-06-15 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 3:35 PM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: +1: this is true for me as well, so I agree. Well, it is verifiable by what our local government says (through the consensus of public process, like City Council meetings) via polygons, AND by the more vaguely-defined

Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow

2013-06-12 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: Your reply really doesn't address what William is saying, which is that neighbourhood boundaries are subjective. I think we all agree that neighbourhoods are useful, but they're worse than political boundaries in terms

[Talk-ca] Expanding the Future Look Team

2013-06-11 Thread Clifford Snow
to increase the feeling to be part of a community? How can we get people to use Openstreetmap apps and improve the data? The four Openstreetmappers are Clifford Snow (USA), Markus Semm (Germany), Dermot McNally (OSMF board member, Ireland), Dave Corley (Ireland) and Johan de Ruijter (The Netherlands

[Talk-us] New National Parks Mailing List

2013-06-11 Thread Clifford Snow
During discussions in presentations at this years SOTM-US, participants expressed a desire to create a mailing list for people interested in collaborating to improving our maps of National Parks. We will use this list to develop goals and processes to improve mapping of National Parks. Joining the

Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow

2013-06-11 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: OSM has pretty poor neighborhood coverage in the US. We have around 1100 place=neighbo[u]rhood. Geonames has ten times that at 11,000 (feature class P.PPLX - not sure if all of those are neighborhoods) and Zillow has

Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow

2013-06-11 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Darrell Fuhriman darr...@garnix.orgwrote: You'd end up with this: http://bostonography.com/images/misc/neighborhoods_labeled.jpg Discussed here: http://bostonography.com/2012/wanted-your-map-of-boston-neighborhoods/ True. I suppose part of it is wanting

Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow

2013-06-11 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 5:47 PM, william skora skorasau...@gmail.comwrote: Given the subjective, fluid nature of neighborhoods - especially boundaries - where one neighborhood ends and one begins - may change from person to person, they are best represented as a single node in the area where

Re: [Talk-us] JOSM panning on MacOS?

2013-06-10 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Dion Dock dion_d...@comcast.net wrote: Did something go wrong with JOSM recently? I find I can no longer pan the screen with Option-click. What version? I'm running 5978 with no problem. I do have a 3 button mouse if that makes a difference. -- Clifford

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-05-31 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Frederic Julien fjulie...@yahoo.comwrote: I'm working on a presentation and interested to hear your thoughts. What are the top 2-3 changes that could improve OSM data quality? That could be processes, tools, methods, training, peer review, attributes, etc.

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-05-31 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: and finally how do we make local communities work? Latter is super important because great local data (transit, businesses, addresses) is key to the usefulness (hey, another way of thinking about quality!) of OSM. Great

Re: [Talk-us] Take another look at notes!

2013-05-31 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: ok, i found report a problem on the map view for housing units in an area. i'll have to go find a map problem and report it via the GUI so i can see the full cycle. I only found two notes for the Greater Seattle

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-05-31 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:02 PM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: Clifford Snow writes: First you need to define what good data quality is and second, you need to collect data to measure data quality. Once good data is collect then start determining root cause of the problem. Most

Re: [Talk-us] Chicago meetup during National Day of Civic Hacking

2013-05-30 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: (For those of you not in Chicago, I encourage you to check out the website for the national event [0] as there's probably at least one event near you.) Seattle mappers are taking part in the National Day of Civic Hacking

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google Maps being praised for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly

2013-05-27 Thread Clifford Snow
Let's forget about Google Maps for a moment that give thanks to the contributors who updated I-5 on OpenStreetMap. Alan, rickmastfan67, Sundance and katpatuka have all contributed to the update. It is dedicated mappers like these that make OSM great. -- Clifford OpenStreetMap: Maps with a

Re: [Talk-us] Google Maps being praised for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly

2013-05-27 Thread Clifford Snow
Let's forget about Google Maps for a moment that give thanks to the contributors who updated I-5 on OpenStreetMap. Alan, rickmastfan67, Sundance and katpatuka have all contributed to the update. It is dedicated mappers like these that make OSM great. -- Clifford OpenStreetMap: Maps with a

Re: [Talk-ca] OSM apps for iOS devices

2013-05-14 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 6:07 AM, Guillaume Pratte guilla...@guillaumepratte.net wrote: In preparation for the upcoming OSM workshop in Montreal, I would like to have the advice of people using iPhones and such on the best OpenStreetMap applications available. Go Map!! It's the best portable

Re: [Talk-us] misuse of the landuse=forest tag for national forests

2013-05-12 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 1:06 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.comwrote: If you have an area that cannot grow trees, due to altitude, inadequate groundwater, or having exposed rock rather than soil (as with many mountaintops), then, in what sense is it a managed forest? I am not talking

Re: [OSM-talk] iD Editor live on OpenStreetMap

2013-05-07 Thread Clifford Snow
Congratulations to all of the developers and contributors to iD! On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:41 AM, tmcw t...@macwright.org wrote: Hi all! Today, we've tagged iD editor v1.0.0 and integrated it into openstreetmap.org, thanks to Tom Hughes, Ansis Brammanis, John Firebaugh, Saman Bemel-Benrud,

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports-us] Baltimore Building Outlines Import

2013-05-04 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Matthew Petroff openstreet...@mpetroff.netwrote: Using QGIS, I assigned approximate street addresses to each building using a parcel map [3] and used the field calculator to clean up the labels and remove abbreviations. In addition, I removed all data that

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