Re: [OSM-talk] proposed mechanical edit - moving FIXME=* to fixme=*

2018-07-03 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-07-03 09:49, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Now that I know about existence of FIXME tag I can add support for it in my tools at 1% of cost of going through mechanical edit. The entire point is not to support may particular usecase, the point is to save people in future from spending time on

Re: [OSM-talk] About OSM social implications and what can/should be displayed on the map (or not)

2018-06-30 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-06-29 17:27, Carlos Cámara wrote: Dear all, After participating in this openstreetmap-carto issue [1] discussing to create an icon for casinos in which I stated that they should not be highlighted with an icon due to their grave consequences derived from gambling addiction (there are

Re: [OSM-talk] Can somebody give me a hint please?

2018-06-20 Thread Maarten Deen
What kind of copyright infringement are you talking about? Jeroen wants to know what city it is. How can this possibly be a copyright infringment and why should he not use the image? Maarten On 2018-06-20 15:00, Milo van der Linden wrote: Screenshots from google maps infringe copyright. I

Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

2018-06-04 Thread Maarten Deen
struggling to think where I would find one. Phil (trigpoint) On 3 June 2018 19:29:24 BST, Maarten Deen wrote: On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 3. Jun 2018 18:05 by ba...@ursamundi.org: On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I am looking

Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

2018-06-03 Thread Maarten Deen
On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 3. Jun 2018 18:05 by ba...@ursamundi.org: On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I am looking for an application for Android displaying amenity=drinking_water locations with available offline map - I am

Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

2018-06-03 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-06-03 17:54, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I am looking for an application for Android displaying amenity=drinking_water locations with available offline map - I am frequently using it to avoid buying plastic bottles Osmand does that. Just start with typing "drinking" into the POI search.

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

2018-05-03 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-05-04 00:33, Joe Matazzoni wrote: Hi Daniel, I’ll look for your contributions on the project talk page. Thanks. Meanwhile, here are answers to your questions: 1. The localized maps lack fallback rules (I'm speaking of Polish language at least). I would ask for English as a fallback

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-24 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-04-24 19:40, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I fully agree that it is a problem. I encountered nasty issues after implementing name rendering fallback with following language order (order is simplified for this example): name:pl, name:en, name:de, name Intention was to render English name in

Re: [OSM-talk] no_feature_tag_nodes

2018-04-14 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-04-14 10:15, Michael Reichert wrote: The list of good and bad tags can be found on the wiki That is my whole point. No you can not. Some messages can be found verbatim, some can be found only if you connect the dots (that error_something_with_description means that the node has a

Re: [OSM-talk] no_feature_tag_nodes

2018-04-13 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-04-13 09:52, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 13. Apr 2018, at 08:54, Jack Armstrong dan...@sprynet.com wrote: Yes, that's it, but where is it written? ;) Josm validator warnings are often about problems that are not explicitly described and

Re: [OSM-talk] no_feature_tag_nodes

2018-04-12 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-04-13 05:02, Jack Armstrong dan...@sprynet.com wrote: OSM Inspector tags some individual address nodes as errors. For example, these nodes located inside the lateral boundaries of buildings: https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?node=5438712543#map=19/39.68899/-104.86454 I guess I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] Vote cheating?

2018-03-16 Thread Maarten Deen
You probably have to check the logfiles. Not sure if you can do this from within the wiki. Maarten On 2018-03-16 12:38, john whelan wrote: But how would you check this? Thanks John On 16 March 2018 at 07:31, Maarten Deen <md...@xs4all.nl> wrote: That is a different matter. This is

Re: [OSM-talk] Vote cheating?

2018-03-16 Thread Maarten Deen
That is a different matter. This is about the possibility that on person makes multiple wiki accunts and use those to vote (thereby cheating the vote). I think it would be a good thing to check this. Maarten On 2018-03-16 12:18, James wrote: You could also argue the opposite way: Not

Re: [OSM-talk] Danger zone for pedestrians

2018-03-04 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-03-05 06:23, Rodrigo Rodríguez wrote: These are sort of the things I would appreciate I could be able to map in OSM. Even with the subjective point of view that might represent to tag a way as insecure or not, it is easily achievable to determine a way or schema in wich you could

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping rivers that flow into/through lakes?

2018-02-23 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-02-23 11:35, Rory McCann wrote: On 23/02/18 06:53, Maarten Deen wrote: I see nothing wrong with those examples, I would do it the same, especially if the rivers can be sailed on by boat. Then you absolutely need the rivers to be connected to a central river (or fairway) in the lake

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping rivers that flow into/through lakes?

2018-02-22 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-02-22 22:59, Rory McCann wrote: Hi mappers, What's the best way to map rivers that flow into lakes, especially when another river flows through it? Should they be connected? When a river flows through a lake, you can map a waterway=river way through it, to be "topoligcally complete".

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

2018-02-19 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-02-19 10:17, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 08:12:45PM +0100, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2018-02-18 20:07, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 12:53 PM, Maarten Deen <md...@xs4all.nl> > wrote: > > > On 2018-02-18 19:28, Tom Hughes wrote: >

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

2018-02-18 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-02-18 20:07, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 12:53 PM, Maarten Deen <md...@xs4all.nl> wrote: On 2018-02-18 19:28, Tom Hughes wrote: I can't comment about how the algorithm works because I don't know anything about it. I'm just saying that we do tell it the v

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

2018-02-18 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-02-18 19:28, Tom Hughes wrote: On 18/02/18 18:04, Paul Johnson wrote:  OK, so what can we do about this problem?  For example, go to Jenks, Oklahoma.  Search for Walmart.  First result isn't the Walmart Neighborhood Market across the street from the Riverside Market shopping center. 

Re: [OSM-talk] "The Future of Free and Open-Source Maps" Slashdot.org , Saturday February 17, 2018

2018-02-17 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-02-17 10:56, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: This article is on the front page of the Slashdot today: Fri 16 February 2018 "Why OpenStreetMap is in Serious Trouble" https://blog.emacsen.net/blog/2018/02/16/osm-is-in-trouble/ Interesting that he mentions that "the proprietary mapping world

Re: [OSM-talk] Roundabouts - why is a separate segment required?

2018-02-15 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-02-14 19:39, Dave F wrote: On 14/02/2018 18:23, Johan C wrote: No, they are not. Roundabouts are special types of intersections. Which is another type of intersection. They have a way on which you can drive round. And round. And round. And they have other ways leading to and from

Re: [OSM-talk] Roundabouts - why is a separate segment required?

2018-02-14 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-02-14 18:50, Dave F wrote: On 14/02/2018 17:13, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2018-02-14 17:39, Dave F wrote: I think I have read it correctly. https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5408566797 It is easy to determine this shared node is part of the roundabout as well as the entrance from

Re: [OSM-talk] Roundabouts - why is a separate segment required?

2018-02-14 Thread Maarten Deen
ed by a node) you do not enter that road so you do not need instructions for it. Maarten On 14/02/2018 16:17, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2018-02-14 15:53, Dave F wrote: Hi Could anyone give me an explanation for this line from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:junction=roundabout "

Re: [OSM-talk] Roundabouts - why is a separate segment required?

2018-02-14 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-02-14 15:53, Dave F wrote: Hi Could anyone give me an explanation for this line from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:junction=roundabout "Each road has to be connected with the roundabout in a separate node—that is, between these nodes a segment of the roundabout is required."

Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically generated changeset discussion comments by OSMCha

2018-01-12 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-01-12 15:07, Michael Reichert wrote: Hi, OSMCha started posting comments to changesets a few days ago when a user marks a changeset as good or bad. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/wille/diary/43101 I would like to ask the author(s) of OSMCha to disable this feature. We expect to

Re: [OSM-talk] Spam-bot friends

2017-12-25 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-12-25 13:15, Sérgio V. wrote: What a weird new zero edditting user added me as OSM friend. Specially considering this morning. http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/StonefireArms Don't want firearms as Christmas gift. Not much to do with OSM. I hope. FYI:

Re: [OSM-talk] Welcome_to_OpenStreetMap_users ?

2017-10-24 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-10-25 07:31, Daniel Koć wrote: W dniu 25.10.2017 o 07:08, Roland Olbricht pisze: See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Welcome_to_Wikipedia_users#Original_research_always_wins Why is this page named "Welcome_to_Wikipedia_users"? Can we just move it to

Re: [OSM-talk] Label language on the Default stylesheet

2017-09-25 Thread Maarten Deen
Of course this is impractical in the UI in the current way of selecting layers (where each layer has its own check box to enable it), I was more thinking in the line of having a dropdown box for all language overlays. No idea if this is currently possible in openlayers. Maarten On

Re: [OSM-talk] Label language on the Default stylesheet

2017-09-25 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-09-24 23:01, Matthijs Melissen wrote: Hi all, I would like to ask for your opinion on the choice of language used in the Default map on openstreetmap.org. This map (based on the openstreetmap-carto style) currently displays all labels in their native language (as defined in the 'name'

Re: [OSM-talk] Wheelchair accessibility

2017-09-20 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-09-20 23:10, john whelan wrote: I was at a presentation yesterday evening about accessibility, well it was free coffee what more can I say? All Ottawa buses have two spaces for wheelchairs. We map wheelchair accessible toilets and other things for the map but we currently as far as I

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-08-28 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-08-28 13:02, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Monday 28 August 2017, Greg Morgan wrote: We do get to go through the five stages. We do get to express the emotions until acceptance of our fate as part of the healing process. There is no rubber stamping!

Re: [OSM-talk] HDYC, login requirement and "privacy"

2017-05-05 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-05-05 10:35, Simon Poole wrote: Am 05.05.2017 um 09:47 schrieb Maarten Deen: .. We have all agreed to the contributor terms (although I can not find the version I have agreed to, I can only find a version from 2016) and that says that OSMF has the right to sub-license. PS https

Re: [OSM-talk] HDYC, login requirement and "privacy"

2017-05-05 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-05-05 09:17, Simon Poole wrote: Am 05.05.2017 um 00:39 schrieb Michał Brzozowski: ... Also, I see no reasonable way that upcoming EU privacy rules would affect us. Would they consider OSM as a special case or what? Everything mappers do, as has been said, is consensual and explicit.

Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming removal of landuse=farm in the standard style

2017-03-22 Thread Maarten Deen
And FYI: there is a maproulette challenge to change the landuse=farm areas http://maproulette.org/ui/metrics/2374 But it lists "only" 14.828 available tasks. Maarten On 2017-03-22 14:39, joost schouppe wrote: In Belgium, the convention is to use farmland for growing plants, and landuse=meadow

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Bank met ATM

2017-03-20 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-03-20 11:10, Alert Bouterse wrote: Beste OSM-mers Ik heb een vraagje, Bij de ABN Amrobank (in schiedam) staat wel de ATM, maar niet de bank, Ik dacht dus even de bank toe te voegen. Nu zie ik staan in een van de instellingen de vraag of er een publieke ATM beschikbaar is. Ja, naturlijk.

Re: [OSM-talk] Auto whitespace removal?

2017-03-11 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-03-11 16:50, James wrote: Honestly, I'm not sure why this wasnt built into JOSM or P2 or ID for that matter as strip functions are readily available if not, very easy to code Maybe you should open a bug report to request the feature. I think JOSM warns you about it but still would be

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Maproulette challenge voor dubbele amenity's

2017-03-04 Thread Maarten Deen
de link Verzonden vanaf Samsung-tablet. Oorspronkelijk bericht Van: Maarten Deen <md...@xs4all.nl> Datum: 04-03-17 08:59 (GMT+01:00) Aan: talk-nl@openstreetmap.org Onderwerp: [OSM-talk-nl] Maproulette challenge voor dubbele amenity's Bij de AND import zijn er een aantal

[OSM-talk-nl] Maproulette challenge voor dubbele amenity's

2017-03-03 Thread Maarten Deen
Bij de AND import zijn er een aantal nodes aangemaakt die amenity=, amenity_1= enz. hadden. Die zijn later gecombineerd tot één amenity tag als amenity=parking;fuel. Deze worden niet gerenderd op de kaart, ze staan meestal op de verkeerde plek (ook als onderdeel van een way) en zullen

Re: [OSM-talk] Spam reporting

2017-02-23 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-02-23 11:23, Tom Hughes wrote: On 23/02/17 09:48, Jochen Topf wrote: Every larger system that allows user contributions has a "report this as spam" button. If a few people click on that, an admin reviews and handles this. Sounds like an obvious solution that could also work for OSM.

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing broken multipolygons

2017-02-18 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-02-18 12:37, Tomas Straupis wrote: Another interesting example are polygons like this: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/400182030 Polygon geometry is fine here, but it has one pointless node close to one of the nodes. Pointless because it does not influence the final geometry of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Maproulette problems?

2017-02-18 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-02-18 12:18, Jochen Topf wrote: On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 09:48:08AM +0100, Maarten Deen wrote: Is the back-end of Maproulette offline? I can access the site, I can see the challenges and the metrics, but when I want to start a challenge I only get to see the OSM map in my neighborhood

[OSM-talk] Maproulette problems?

2017-02-18 Thread Maarten Deen
Is the back-end of Maproulette offline? I can access the site, I can see the challenges and the metrics, but when I want to start a challenge I only get to see the OSM map in my neighborhood and it doesn't assign a task. Also: there is no contact information? Is this the best way to get in

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Luchtfoto's 2016 beschikbaar voor tracen in OSM

2017-02-10 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-02-10 19:45, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: On 02/10/2017 07:33 PM, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2017-02-10 12:09, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: On 02/10/2017 11:58 AM, Maarten Deen wrote: Hoe kun je deze beelden in JOSM krijgen? Via Imagery Preferences, en dan de WMS of WMTS toevoegen m.b.v

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Luchtfoto's 2016 beschikbaar voor tracen in OSM

2017-02-10 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-02-10 12:09, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: On 02/10/2017 11:58 AM, Maarten Deen wrote: Hoe kun je deze beelden in JOSM krijgen? Via Imagery Preferences, en dan de WMS of WMTS toevoegen m.b.v. de URLs die op NGR staan. Er staan een flink aantal URLs op op die site en ik heb er ook

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Afgesloten weg

2017-02-08 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-02-08 23:01, Freek Dijkstra wrote: Vraagje van een noob (dat ben ik), Ik heb vanochtend een wijziging gemaakt, en vraag me af of ik dat op de aanbevolen manier heb gedaan. Het gaat om https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/45910956 De gemeente heeft een wandelpad (een trap) afgesloten

Re: [OSM-talk] Limiting changesets to 10k changes.

2017-01-31 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-01-31 19:04, Guillaume Rischard wrote: Hello everyone, There's a pull request to limit changesets to 10k changes, and it would be good to get community input. I've opened a discussion here: https://github.com/openstreetmap/operations/issues/144 See the interesting comments on the PR

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM then and now revived

2017-01-30 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-01-30 12:07, Simon Poole wrote: I suspect the main problem is that in 2007 we didn't really have a lot of data so rendering tiles or it is really not such a big issue. However 2010 and later would require per point in time a rather largish rendering DB plus space for tiles a model that

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM then and now revived

2017-01-28 Thread Maarten Deen
What would be really wonderful is a yearly layer so you can see the history changing. Just like http://topotijdreis.nl/ Maarten On 2017-01-28 16:08, joost schouppe wrote: Any chance we'll see some middle version there too in the future? (say, 2012. And than later, 1/1/20**) You gave us a

[OSM-talk] Lots of small copies of existing relations

2017-01-11 Thread Maarten Deen
I am working on bus routes and regularly download a whole area worth of bus routes with Overpass. What I see quite frequently is that some edit is done and in the aftermath a lot of copies of a busroute have been created with just a few (sometimes just one) member. These all seem to be in

Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass API from JOSM does not honor bounding box anymore?

2016-12-26 Thread Maarten Deen
ave my own), then downloading works. Regards, Maarten ----- DE : Maarten Deen <md...@xs4all.nl> À : talk@openstreetmap.org; j...@openstreetmap.org ENVOYÉ LE : lundi 26 décembre 2016 10h14 OBJET : [OSM-talk] Overpass API from JOSM does not honor bounding box anymore? I'm trying

[OSM-talk] Overpass API from JOSM does not honor bounding box anymore?

2016-12-26 Thread Maarten Deen
I'm trying the overpass API from JOSM and keep getting timeouts. According to the docs, the bounding box for the Overpass query would be set automatically when selecting an area in the map in the download screen, but I do not see that in the resulting query that gets logged. Trying the

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM Bijna Kopje Onder?

2016-11-14 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-11-14 15:38, Colin Smale wrote: Op computerwereld.nl - 4 open source projecten die bijna kopje onder gaan Ook in de lijst - OpenStreetMap!!! Blijkbaar komen we $30k/jaar te kort http://computerworld.nl/open-source/95055-4-open-source-projecten-die-bijna-kopje-onder-gaan/pagina-2

[OSM-talk-nl] Sandd gebruikt OSM (intern)

2016-11-04 Thread Maarten Deen
Ik kwam via-via op deze blog uit: https://josbertlonnee.wordpress.com/2016/02/11/post-bezorgen-voor-sandd/ Afgezien van reclame voor dit geweldige bedrijf (huhu) blijkt dat Sandd kaartjes van OSM aan de bezorgers geeft. Dit ziet er uit als de standaard mapnik rendering, waarschijnlijk zit

Re: [OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

2016-11-02 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-11-02 12:17, Lester Caine wrote: On 02/11/16 11:04, Milo van der Linden wrote: As a devops I understand your pain ;-) but for OSRM, I found that using docker and staying on a fixed docker version for OSRM makes the pain a lot easier. You say you are using GPS in the car, do you also

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM in Kosovo

2016-10-12 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-10-11 19:39, Andy Mabbett wrote: I'm speaking (about Wikipedia and Wikidata, not OSM - though it may get mentioned ;-) ) in Pristina, Kosovo, next week, at "Software Freedom Kosova 2016: SFK16": http://sfk.flossk.org/sfk16/ Are any OSM folk going? Do we know the local editors there?

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Arriva Openbaar vervoer Concessie Limburg

2016-10-07 Thread Maarten Deen
landscape boven elkaar. Dan is het nog klein genoeg. De deel-PDF's zal best goed kunnen uitkomen. Maarten On Thursday, 6 October 2016 21:53:35 CEST Maarten Deen wrote: On 2016-10-06 12:51, Reinier Battenberg wrote: > Hallo, > > Vanaf 11 december gaat Arriva het openbaar vervoer i

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Arriva Openbaar vervoer Concessie Limburg (sorry for cross-posting)

2016-10-06 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-10-06 12:51, Reinier Battenberg wrote: Hallo, Vanaf 11 december gaat Arriva het openbaar vervoer in Limburg overnemen. Op 5 Oktober hebben ze hun, gedeeltelijk nieuwe, buslijnen gepubliceerd http:// www.limburger.nl/cnt/dmf20161005_00025183/dag-van-de-waarheid-voor-limburgs-

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-31 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-08-31 09:39, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: On 31/08/16 07:54, Andreas Vilén wrote: Imo it's better to let these areas choose their own (classic) addresses and then report these to the authorities. /Andreas It looks like they are trying to do exactly this. Here is a map of a part of Rio

Re: [OSM-talk] New Google Maps style - interesting cartographic innovation

2016-08-12 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-08-12 09:48, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: On 11.08.2016 20:37, Michał Brzozowski wrote: ... The activity areas aren't merely about the usage itself, but, well, the activity - i.e. concentration of interesting places and number of people visiting them (or other similar popularity metric).

Re: [OSM-talk] New Google Maps style - interesting cartographic innovation

2016-08-07 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-08-07 08:29, Michał Brzozowski wrote: On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 8:05 AM, Maarten Deen <md...@xs4all.nl> wrote: I don't know if I understand you right, but different colors for different purposes is hardly an innovation. You haven't got the point I guess. The new

Re: [OSM-talk] New Google Maps style - interesting cartographic innovation

2016-08-07 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-08-07 01:43, Michał Brzozowski wrote: There has been an update to Google Maps styling [1] and I have to say, they left me impressed. The overall look is cleaner, which is very welcome after a series of disappointing changes, but the thing I consider very innovative is how buildings (and

[OSM-talk] Openstreetmap in Formula 1

2016-07-23 Thread Maarten Deen
I'm quite positive that I just saw a shot of a computer of one of the F1 teams showing the OSM with a rainradar overlay during qualifying of the GP of Hungary. Is that a public service from some organisation in Hungary or did they develop this themselves? Regards, Maarten

Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

2016-07-13 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-07-13 11:35, Colin Smale wrote: On 2016-07-13 10:23, Lester Caine wrote: W3W and OLC both have the same problem. They are trying to fix something which is not really broken. I disagree with this... They are not trying to replace / fix up lat/lon, they are providing a lingua franca

Re: [OSM-talk] Video of node edit history

2016-06-23 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-06-23 11:05, Daniel Koć wrote: W dniu 23.06.2016 10:14, Rory McCann napisał(a): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdRO-QZaWX8 Someone's made a video of the node edit history of OSM. As nodes were edited, the pixel changes. It's from 2006 to 2016, and covers the whole world. Pretty

Re: [OSM-talk] Upload slowness - what's going on?

2016-05-13 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-05-13 14:59, Grant Slater wrote: Kudos for the very clear explanation. Over today (for at least the weekend) we are switching to the new frontend & backend servers in York (Bytemark). London Imperial will be offline from approximately 5pm (GMT+1) for the first weekend of power

Re: [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-27 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-03-26 20:59, Steve Coast wrote: Ok so look, Slack took over the world. And it turns out it’s pretty good and useful. Let’s have an official OSM slack. Maybe I'm living under a rock, but I only know Slack as a short for Slackware, a Linux distribution. What is this and why do I need

Re: [OSM-talk] [BOT] [RFC]: water surfaces

2016-03-22 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-03-22 14:10, Frank Villaro-Dixon wrote: # First goal: First goal is quite simple. The idea is to work only on relations which have a natural=water . Then, it will: * Delete natural=water from all the ways if they are NOT closed or ring 0. I have been fixing waterways and water

Re: [OSM-talk] What is 'Attic Data'? or 'Why can't wiki writers use plain language'.

2016-02-03 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-02-04 07:58, Paul Johnson wrote: I suspect you're onto something here; it's not a phrase that's even in my GIS vernacular. Don't even recall it from college experience (though I took French and majored in civil engineering; amazing I'm not mapping professionally)... True. I think

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing Starbucks Wikipedia Tags (Was Nominatim Weakness)

2016-01-21 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-01-21 23:16, Paul Norman wrote: On 1/21/2016 1:44 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: When we are done cleaning up Starbucks, we'll still have at least one Starbucks with a wikipedia link, the original store But this won't be a link to the Starbucks article, but instead the specific one on that

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Luchtfoto's 2014 CycloMedia

2016-01-10 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-01-10 20:38, Johan C wrote: We zijn erg verheugd om aan te kondigen dat CycloMedia via WMS luchtfoto's 2014 in een resolutie van 50 cm. ter beschikking stelt aan OpenStreetMap. Om toegang te krijgen tot de luchtfoto's moet je een licentie aangaan met CycloMedia. Dat kun je hier doen:

Re: [OSM-talk] If a school is a shelter when a disaster happens...

2015-12-30 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-12-30 16:33, Dongpo Deng wrote: Hi all, There is a problem for tagging shelters. In Taiwan, some of schools are selected to be shelters for villages or small regions when a disaster happens. However, it is conflict to annotate two amenities on a geometry object. That is, we cannot

Re: [OSM-talk] Best way to amalgamate two relations?

2015-12-23 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-12-23 14:05, Dave F. wrote: Hi There's an existing route relation that's out of date. A duplicate, but more accurate one has just been created. To maintain the history of the existing relation I don't want ot delete it. Is there an easy way to transfer the newer data into the original

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-14 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-12-14 09:25, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 05:52:21PM -0500, John Goodman wrote: Am I missing something, or is there no way to sort Nominatim searches on the main OpenStreetMap map page? For example, if my map is showing an area of the United States where I happen to

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-14 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-12-14 09:34, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 08:45:38AM +0100, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2015-12-14 01:02, Tom Hughes wrote: >On 13/12/15 22:52, John Goodman wrote: > >>For example, if my map is showing an area of the United States where I >>happen to know

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-13 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-12-14 01:02, Tom Hughes wrote: On 13/12/15 22:52, John Goodman wrote: For example, if my map is showing an area of the United States where I happen to know a mapped Starbucks exists, and I search for "Starbucks" in the search panel, the entire panel is filled with Starbucks in Japan.

Re: [OSM-talk] Involving Cyclists in OSM

2015-12-09 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-12-09 09:58, Volker Schmidt wrote: A few suggestions. On-line maps for cyclists: * Opencyclemap (Opencyclmap.org) shows both infrastructure for bicycles as means of transportation (cycle paths etc.) and infrastructure for cycle tourism (cycle routes) *

Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

2015-11-22 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-11-22 13:34, Colin Smale wrote: On 2015-11-22 13:18, Maarten Deen wrote: I also don't understand this:"It's a non-hierarchical system. The problem with latitude and longitude coordinates is that if you make a mistake when writing them down you will be completely lost. But wit

Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

2015-11-22 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-11-22 12:07, Colin Smale wrote: I guess there would be no objections to someone adding addr:w3w:en=nice.place.here ? Or addr:w3w=en:nice.place.here ? Reading about what it is, it is just a lookup between some random three words and a location. We don't map addr:latlon=51.34,3.45 in

Re: [OSM-talk] open question about boundaries sharing nodes with ways or nodes

2015-10-14 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-10-14 11:31, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 10/14/2015 10:56 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: (If this happens - if the boundary is defined by the river or the highway - then you still have various options of modeling this, for example having two ways share the same nodes,

Re: [OSM-talk] open question about boundaries sharing nodes with ways or nodes

2015-10-14 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-10-14 09:49, Badita Florin wrote: Nodes 1856092007 [1] and 1856092002 [2] , which limit the following way [3] between such nodes. This way is a highway and at the same time is part of the relation of a boundary. This seems invalid since it merges two types of features on the same way

Re: [OSM-talk] User WJtW - railway track counts

2015-10-12 Thread Maarten Deen
I have received a private message from the user: Hoi Maarten, Met het aantal tracks wordt aangegeven het aantal sporen die parallel aan elkaar liggen. Tracks=1 = Enkelspoor Tracks=2 = Dubbelspoor Tracks=3 = Driesporig Tracks=4 = Viersporig Mvgr, Wim Translated: The number of tracks

Re: [OSM-talk] User WJtW - railway track counts

2015-10-12 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-10-12 12:05, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2015-10-12 11:09 GMT+02:00 Colin Smale : about the sources of the other information (electrification info, usage etc), maybe it's inside info, maybe it's a guess, or maybe he is just widely-travelled. not sure about

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Routes

2015-10-08 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-10-08 09:44, Jo wrote: The way I do it (and in no way am I saying it is the only way or the correct way to do it, but it seems to hold up fine) is make one relation for each seperate destination (usually two: a->b and b->a, sometimes 4: a->c->b, a->d->b, b->c->a and b->d->a) and group

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Routes

2015-10-08 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-10-08 10:47, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2015-10-08 10:26 GMT+02:00 Maarten Deen <md...@xs4all.nl>: Making a relation for each concession greatly improves maintainability. You only have to load one relation in JOSM to get all lines and work from there. I would be really cross if s

Re: [OSM-talk] User WJtW - railway track counts

2015-10-07 Thread Maarten Deen
I have asked WJtW about this in june this year but received no answer. Then I saw user BAGgeraar remove the tracks tag so I asked him about it and he too asked WJtW and received no answer. On the german forum there is a thread [1] about it also indicating it is a superfluous tag when all tracks

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Routes

2015-10-07 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-10-08 04:12, Clifford Snow wrote: I'm trying to add my first bus route. I'm struggling to understand how to properly add the relation. The route, like most bus routes, loops back over the same ways. So my questions: If the bus travels over the same way going two different directions, is

Re: [OSM-talk] Traffic Signs

2015-09-30 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-09-30 11:14, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2015-09-30 10:18 GMT+02:00 Lauri Kytömaa : In my experience collecting the signs exhaustively has revealed smaller and bigger errors in osm data, and also in the signs (say, "leaking" zone signs, missing parking restrictions

Re: [OSM-talk] Traffic Signs

2015-09-30 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-09-30 11:29, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2015-09-30 11:25 GMT+02:00 Maarten Deen <md...@xs4all.nl>: The city of Amsterdam is very good at this. One-way streets very often have no signs at the side where you are allowed to enter but have a sign "closed for motorized traffi

Re: [OSM-talk] Traffic Signs

2015-09-30 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-09-30 12:22, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Am 30.09.2015 um 11:46 schrieb Maarten Deen <md...@xs4all.nl>: That turn restriction does not exist in real life, so you shouldn't add it in OSM ;) I'm not convinced it doesn't exist (the sign says you can

[OSM-talk] Fw: read this

2015-09-28 Thread Maarten Deen
Hello! New message, please read <http://neslojistik.com/places.php?tgh> Maarten Deen ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] The wki pages ... for the mapper? or the render? or both?

2015-09-08 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-09-09 05:18, Warin wrote: The some of the wiki pages appear to be written for the renders, while others look to be written for the mappers. This is confusing! I believe there should be two versions of the wiki pages - one for mappers who need simple descriptions of the tag/s and another

Re: [OSM-talk] THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject

2015-09-07 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-09-07 17:31, Russ Nelson wrote: https://www.facebook.com/groups/abandonedrails/permalink/1044885352211646/ It's on facebook and I have to log in to see it. I don't have a facebook account, so could someone post here whay it says? Regards, Maarten

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Locaties van EAD's iets voor OSM?

2015-09-02 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-09-02 11:12, Pander OpenTaal wrote: Locaties van EAD's iets voor OSM? https://www.aed4.eu/ en de database woont volgens mij bij https://www.radboudumc.nl AED's dus. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency%3Ddefibrillator Ik zou zeggen van wel. Maarten

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the point of the Wiki 'k=v' icon?

2015-09-01 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-09-01 13:14, Dave F. wrote: That the icon is used purely as a place holder & *removed* when a picture is added proves its irrelevance. Why would a newbie care or even need to know the XML structure of the database? Why is that relevant? The wiki has to be a clear & simple as

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the point of the Wiki 'k=v' icon?

2015-08-27 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-08-27 11:21, Dave F. wrote: On 26/08/2015 21:54, Andrew Hain wrote: Dave F. davefox at madasafish.com writes: Hi Bearing in mind the wiki is used more often by new OSM contributors therefore should be a clear concise as possible, I'm curious why this icon is so prevalent:

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-14 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-08-14 08:23, Russ Nelson wrote: Maarten Deen writes: On 2015-08-14 07:44, Russ Nelson wrote: Maarten Deen writes: I beg your pardon? I read this as nothing can be deleted, since you say that deleting something you don't see (which usually means it's

[OSM-talk] History of specific areas

2015-08-13 Thread Maarten Deen
Is there a tool available to search for the history of items in a specific area? OSM History Viewer only works if you have the id of an object. I don't know if OWL can do it because it is offline. I don't have the id for the node, I just know something was there and has been deleted at some

Re: [OSM-talk] History of specific areas

2015-08-13 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-08-13 11:46, Ruben Maes wrote: On Thursday 13 August 2015 08:22:59 Maarten Deen wrote: Is there a tool available to search for the history of items in a specific area? OSM History Viewer only works if you have the id of an object. I don't know if OWL can do it because it is offline. I

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-13 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-08-14 05:09, Russ Nelson wrote: Ian Dees writes: I appreciate that there are strong feelings about this topic, but we could certainly use more constructive language and have a civilized conversation. I would love to have a civilized conversation with civilized people who don't

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-13 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-08-14 07:44, Russ Nelson wrote: Maarten Deen writes: I beg your pardon? I read this as nothing can be deleted, since you say that deleting something you don't see (which usually means it's not there) is reason for a ban. No, nobody is going to get banned for just one action

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