Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-26 Thread Tom Hughes
On 26/03/11 04:03, Samuel Dyck wrote: Let me clarify, will the so called tainted data still be up for the near future, or will I be spending my week preforming hectic Canvec imports to save street names I gathered with a pen and paper? It doesn't look good for me

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-26 Thread Sam Vekemans
Purposly delaying the inevetable... so i'll no longer be editing ... so all my edits should be considered 'spam' so then others can removed it. or I can accept the agreement and go and start removing all of my edits since i started. all edits that i have touched at any stage of edits

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-26 Thread Samuel Dyck
But per http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2011-03-07#ODbL_phase_3_delayed_due_to_Creative_Commons, phase 3 has been delayed. Or has this changed? Sam On 11-03-26 05:18 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: On 26/03/11 04:03, Samuel Dyck wrote: Let me clarify, will the so called tainted

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-26 Thread Tom Hughes
On 26/03/11 16:12, Samuel Dyck wrote: But per http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2011-03-07#ODbL_phase_3_delayed_due_to_Creative_Commons, phase 3 has been delayed. Or has this changed? Those community updates are exactly that - written by a member of the community and not

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-26 Thread Samuel Dyck
So there is poor communication between the board and the community? I hate to argue, but the License change still has a large TODO notice next to the No option. This is a problem. Sam On 11-03-26 11:17 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: On 26/03/11 16:12, Samuel Dyck wrote: But per

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-26 Thread Tom Hughes
On 26/03/11 16:33, Samuel Dyck wrote: So there is poor communication between the board and the community? I hate to argue, but the License change still has a large TODO notice next to the No option. This is a problem. As I thought I had explained that community update was not a communication

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-26 Thread Samuel Dyck
*Decline*. You do not agree to the new OpenStreetMap Contributor Terms and, specifically, you refuse to re-license your existing contributions for use under the ODbL. (TODO: add more on what this means). Here.

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-26 Thread Tom Hughes
On 26/03/11 16:42, Samuel Dyck wrote: *Decline*. You do not agree to the new OpenStreetMap Contributor Terms and, specifically, you refuse to re-license your existing contributions for use under the ODbL. (TODO: add more on what this means). Here.

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-26 Thread Samuel Dyck
I see, my bad. I'm just a little frustrated about the lack of communication. I should say that I have already accepted the new terms (sorry Sam). On 11-03-26 11:48 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: On 26/03/11 16:42, Samuel Dyck wrote: *Decline*. You do not agree to the new OpenStreetMap Contributor

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-26 Thread Richard Weait
Dear Sam, Well, Sam (Vekemans) you are a man of your word. You mean what you say. Don't you? On 25 August 2010, you said, All my contributions to OpenStreetMap are released into the public domain... I grant anyone the right to use my contributions for any purpose [1] You mean that don't you?

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-26 Thread Sam Vekemans
I guess the OpenStreetMap Foundation's Map (odbl only) has not yet been started. Since the date of step 5 is 'to be determined'. So that's a good reason why i'm actively working on the alternative(s) :-) ... To get back on topic, I'll get back to this list once i have the rules.txt/.pl script and

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-26 Thread Samuel Dyck
Thanks Sam. Now hopefully no one on the other boards will rip into me for daring to import. :) You might also want to look at the MLI provincial forest data and the other goodies on the admin. boundaries list. (I don't know what you are interested in). Sadly with the exception of the Winnipeg

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-26 Thread Sam Vekemans
Lol, that page is no longer valid. ... nor is accepting terms which keep in changing. ... and the Board has the power to unplug osm at any moment ... as well as ban list-serv users ... on any mailing list. :) Creating a new map, and a new wiki, where the Foundation controled all large edits

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-26 Thread Richard Weait
Re: On 25 August 2010, Sam Vekemans said on his wiki user page, All my contributions to OpenStreetMap are released into the public domain... I grant anyone the right to use my contributions for any purpose [1] [1]

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-26 Thread Gerald A
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.comwrote: Lol, that page is no longer valid. Well, the statement on it seems pretty unequivocal -- [PD data release ...] I grant anyone the right to use my contributions *for any purpose*, without any conditions, unless

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-26 Thread Paul Norman
...@osmfoundation.org; board Board; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries Re: On 25 August 2010, Sam Vekemans said on his wiki user page, All my contributions to OpenStreetMap are released into the public domain... I grant anyone the right to use my contributions

[Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-25 Thread Samuel Dyck
Hi Everyone The Canvec data for MB provincial park boundaries is horribly inaccurate and this bothers me greatly. The government of Manitoba offers good boundary data and a bunch of other cool stuff though the Manitoba Lands Initiative, which I believe we can use, but I've never converted

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-25 Thread Adam Dunn
Assuming the dataset clears legal, my preferred way of converting shapefiles to osm is using ogr2osm [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ogr2osm]. You get to write your own tag filters in Python (two samples are provided in the translations directory), as long as you're not doing any complicated

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-25 Thread Paul Norman
using VirtualBox and Ubuntu to run it. -Original Message- From: Samuel Dyck [mailto:samueld...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 12:12 PM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries Hi Everyone The Canvec data for MB provincial park

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-25 Thread Samuel Dyck
it. -Original Message- From: Samuel Dyck [mailto:samueld...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 12:12 PM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries Hi Everyone The Canvec data for MB provincial park boundaries is horribly inaccurate and this bothers me

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-25 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi, The National Parks data will be removed from the osm api next friday, as it will be considered 'tainted data' since the person who uploaded the data doesn't agree to the new contributor terms. This helps, as it makes it easier to add in the Manitoba parks data. Since knowone volunteered, the

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-25 Thread Samuel Dyck
Thanks Sam, that saves me a lot of work. Is all the tainted data being removed Friday, or just yours? Sam On 11-03-25 10:29 PM, Sam Vekemans wrote: Hi, The National Parks data will be removed from the osm api next friday, as it will be considered 'tainted data' since the person who uploaded

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-25 Thread Sam Vekemans
That is upto the OpenStreetMap Foundation to decide on what todo, as they will effectivelly 'own' all the rights to the data, including all tainted data. We (as a community) do not have a say in this matter, unfortunatly. cc'd the lists, it's up to them to reply back. cheers, sam On 3/25/11,

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-25 Thread Samuel Dyck
Let me clarify, will the so called tainted data still be up for the near future, or will I be spending my week preforming hectic Canvec imports to save street names I gathered with a pen and paper? It doesn't look good for me

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-25 Thread Paul Norman
using VirtualBox and Ubuntu to run it. -Original Message- From: Samuel Dyck [mailto:samueld...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 12:12 PM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries Hi Everyone The Canvec data for MB provincial park