Re: [Talk-us] Any foursquare/OSM editing update? How about Craigslist?

2014-01-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Thanks for that Randy. Echoing your themes: the global home page, and especially the US home page, do seem to assume people will jump right into general purpose mapping. The underlying assumption seems to be 'if *they* only had known OSM exists, they'd become dedicated mappers'. I think there

[OSM-talk] Contacting wiki admins?

2014-01-18 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Where can I find the osm wiki administrators? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/About is silent on this topic. Thanks. Sorry to bother the entire list. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Proposed (semi) mechanical edit: Toilet cleanup

2014-01-15 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Per http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edit_Policy I'm proposing to edit about 250 uses of prior toilet tagging schemes to conform to the current scheme. This is documented at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Bryce_C_Nesbitt I propose to do this by placing the old

Re: [Talk-us] Semi-spammy sorta-helpful edit: how to handle

2014-01-14 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I ran into something similar: a note tag entered a week ago by user Noram (near a new node with name= Noram Auto Repair) which simply listed Repair and service of Japanese, and American made automobiles and trucks. Let's do better than that at http://www.noramautorepairservices.com/ But

Re: [Talk-us] Quick intro and request to contribute

2014-01-14 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
And I encourage you to ask is this a one time import or an ongoing import? For your speed data a one time import might be OK. For something like store locations, which change all the time, the data might just get stale in OSM. The proper term for matching up data like this is 'conflation', and

[OSM-talk] Level of detail, Zoom 19. Has it decreased?

2014-01-13 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Has the detail level of the default mapnik stylesheet (zoom 19) changed recently? Increasingly I've found that when using the map I can't get the level of detail I want when zoomed to level 19 (I end up firing up josm, or turning on Map Data when all I really wanted was view a map). Here's an

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS updating

2014-01-13 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.uswrote: On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Jason Remillard remillard.ja...@gmail.com wrote: If you find a problematic GNIS node (especially natural feature), you should consider sending an email to gnis_mana...@usgs.gov as

[OSM-talk] Taginfo for Changesets?

2013-10-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Is there an equivalent of taginfo for the tags in changesets? Short of that is there a search facility for changeset tags? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 5:31 AM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think we really need layers, but could use editors that are semantically aware of things like boundaries, and put them in the background until needed. As far as I see, if we just prevent certain ways or nodes to

Re: [OSM-talk] Deleting data

2013-10-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: As a mapper, you have mapped from third party sources and not been in the place physically to confirm. But you expect other mappers to have a different threshold for deleting these edit, why? Because they are not an

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Johan C osm...@gmail.com wrote: Essentially what we need is the concept of layers. I don't think we really need layers, but could use editors that are semantically aware of things like boundaries, and put them in the background until needed. --- Some

Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass or XAPI API servers for 60, 000 node queries?

2013-10-07 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Roland Olbricht roland.olbri...@gmx.dewrote: Please do not use a cancel-restart strategy. This may double the load because not in all cases the Apache server cancels the abandoned query. Sadly, it's all that I can get to work. I suggest the following

Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass or XAPI API servers for 60, 000 node queries?

2013-10-07 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Roland Olbricht roland.olbri...@gmx.dewrote: Dear Bryce, I've cross-checked the Rambler instance. I'm sorry it indeed doesn't work on that instance. It looks like an element on the network, most likely Nginx, disconnects any connection if no data is sent for

[OSM-talk] Overpass or XAPI API servers for 60,000 node queries?

2013-10-06 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I'm seeking some help in getting a 60,000 node overpass query to complete. In the past I could generally get the query to complete by running it once, cancelling it, then running it a second time (maybe the 2nd time more data was cached). Now I get either infinite timeout or a server rejection.

Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass or XAPI API servers for 60, 000 node queries?

2013-10-06 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Per the suggestion, I dropped the query time to 200 seconds, and same result from the public servers. The query is still running after several minutes, despite the timeout value of 200 seconds. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass or XAPI API servers for 60, 000 node queries?

2013-10-06 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: http://jxapi.openstreetmap.org/xapi/api/0.6/node[amenity=drinking_water]took about 3 minutes total. 14.5MB result. Thanks, however no luck here: # wget

[OSM-talk] Creating a single better maintained list of XAPI/Overpass servers

2013-10-06 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Separately, there seem to be a number of slightly different lists of public XAPI/Overpass servers: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Jxapi#Overpass_API https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/status

[OSM-talk] How do I get XML output from JXAPI?

2013-10-06 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I'm reading http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Jxapi which kind of implies I should expect XML from jxapi. But what I get back is JSON formatted data. How can I get XML? (I'm using wget http://jxapi.openstreetmap.org/xapi/api/0.6/way[amenity=foo]; )

Re: [Talk-us] SPUI mapping

2013-09-15 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I am looking for opinions on how to map these complex interchanges. Could a few of you have a look at what I did and comment? Thanks. Thinking out loud: A SPUI is conceptually simple from a routing perspective: from all input roads you can turn left, right or go straight. The complexity

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] GNIS tag removal proposal

2013-09-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: I would like to suggest that the editors remove the following tags entirely: gnis:ST_num gnis:ST_alpha gnis:feature_type... Unless there are serious objections I plan to open a pull request adding listed tags to

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] GNIS tag removal proposal

2013-09-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Here's a patch to JOSM to warn the human editor about tags that are about to disappear. What do you think? --- src/org/openstreetmap/josm/gui/dialogs/properties/PropertiesDialog.java (revision 6232) +++ src/org/openstreetmap/josm/gui/dialogs/properties/PropertiesDialog.java (working copy) @@

Re: [Talk-us] map data error page at gps.gov

2013-09-05 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
, perhaps: -- From: Jason Y. Kim jason.kim++gps.gov Thanks for the suggestion. We'll add that link when we update the page. Jason Y. Kim Webmaster, www.gps.gov On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Bryce Nesbitt

Re: [Talk-us] map data error page at gps.gov

2013-09-05 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Well, maybe with a little encouragement with Jason Y. Kim is in order. If someone edited the page and sent him text, for example... ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Postal Code Extract (zip vs zcta)

2013-09-04 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 4:37 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: On 9/4/13 7:16 AM, dies38...@mypacks.net wrote: From the page which Bryce referred to in http://lists.openstreetmap.**

Re: [OSM-talk] Developing Countries Address Problem

2013-09-03 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
See also: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/reference_point ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Annoucement: Poup layer beta reworked

2013-08-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Jason Remillard remillard.ja...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Roland, I agree with your criticisms on the show data feature. However, I think it would better (easier for people to use) to fix the issues with show data, rather than duplicating a bunch of its

Re: [OSM-talk] Counting POI Additions

2013-08-26 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Matt McNabb mmcn...@caerusassociates.comwrote: Is there a way in which we can easily track each individual POI addition per team member, rather than the number of uploads? How much trouble to do you want to go through for this? If you want it automated and

Re: [OSM-talk] Reference set of icons ...

2013-08-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: OK I've spent most of the day playing with id trying to make it work in a manor that works for me. I'm at the point where I'm working out how to add missing icons to the library, and I'm having some trouble finding a

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 4:45 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Ben Abelshausen ben.abelshau...@gmail.com wrote: Sometimes it almost looks like some people here are afraid of new users. +1 We also have to see deletions as positive contributions a priori

Re: [OSM-talk] www.openstreetmap.org messed up

2013-08-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Carsten Nielsen list_re...@toensberg.dkwrote: Den 23-08-2013 19:45, Carsten Nielsen skrev: Seems like most of the top menu on www.openstreetmap.org is flowing below the map, making it hard to klik on the Edit label. And just as I pressed the send button,

Re: [Talk-us] Putting businesses on OSM with onosm.org

2013-08-22 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I found when accepting water fountain data from non-mappers that... most of it was good... but I really had to flip through each node to find the newbie mistakes. I think onosm would produce a lot of good data that would be better hand curated as it enters osm proper.

Re: [OSM-talk] iD crashing repeatedly.

2013-08-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
A strong bug report would list the Operating System and version, and include reports on the behavior on other comparable platforms (e.g. what happens with Chrome/IE/Opera on the same machine), and with other complex javascript applications. A browser crashing is a browser bug: nothing iD can do

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: It has been claimed often that iD damages relations. Can we somehow substantiate that claim? Could anyone provide a detailed description of a non-esoteric use case that involves * a kind (and structure) of relation

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Tom MacWright t...@macwright.org wrote: In this case and others, we should keep in mind whether P2 or JOSM have safer or smarter behavior. Would they 'notice' that this new road segment has meaning? Put another way: iD will never prevent all mistakes, but does

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 10:04 AM, John Firebaugh john.fireba...@gmail.comwrote: iD 1.1 displays relationship memberships in the sidebar much like P2 does. We plan to add additional functionality (e.g. highlighting routes on the map, visual rendering of turn restrictions) in future versions,

Re: [OSM-talk] New welcome page

2013-08-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 9:04 AM, John Firebaugh john.fireba...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Martin, On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Could we extend the basic terms on the new welcome page? The new users I talk to tell me that the number one

Re: [OSM-talk] Endorsing properietary social platforms

2013-08-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 3:58 AM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: I think this is a great solution to the tension between OSM not endorsing proprietary data sites and enabling people to do what they want to do. Moving discussion to the project in question:

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, it has been proposed to make the newly released iD v1.1 the default editor on openstreetmap.org, meaning that if someone doesn't explicitly chose an editor they will open iD instead of Potlatch. To try and

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: -- Going off on a tangent here and leaving the scope of immediate iD improvements - someone else has posted that a while ago in a different discussion. Maybe we are far too obsessed with trying to make sure nothing is

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Tom MacWright t...@macwright.org wrote: Please, do not offer a delete function that prominent ! This has come up before. Where should this action button move? Or should there be an alert message? How to resolve this with pro users who get angry with how

Re: [OSM-talk] Endorsing properietary social platforms (was: Making iD the default editor on osm.org)

2013-08-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
The eventual solution Google and Microsoft were forced into is: search providers are browser plugins. Switching focus to iD: there would be list of post edit notification plugins one could drag into place. Facebook, Twitter and G+ would be among those, along with whatever open source version you

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-16 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, it has been proposed to make the newly released iD v1.1 the default editor on openstreetmap.org, meaning that if someone doesn't explicitly chose an editor they will open iD instead of Potlatch. Given the

[Talk-us] Seeking 3 volunteers (to send their votes down on toilets).

2013-08-13 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Would three kind souls take the time to vote at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:amenity%3Dtoilets To bring the total to 15 voters? Thanks! (I welcome anyone interested in counting the seated capacity of toilets to then make a subsequent proposal)

[Talk-us] Shining example of OSM use, tarnished.

2013-08-01 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Dear US OSM enthusiasts: Out Whitehouse is using OpenStreetMap: http://www.whitehouse.gov/change Uses CloudMade tiles and OpenLayers to display a... broken map... with broken images. I've emailed the whitehouse webmaster without effect. Is anyone aware of how this map came to be placed here,

Re: [Talk-us] Cemeteries in OSM?

2013-07-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us wrote: Are there Smartphone apps that can do this with the help of their accelerometer? Some other type of hardware? I could point you to the professional equipment that can do this. On the cheap though, consider using a laser

Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls

2013-07-28 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: I think statistics are enough for gamification. You can have lots of badges like Biggest contributor in Belgium - most nodes in Belgium Road admiral of Alabama - most roads in Alabama Power man of Bavaria - biggest

Re: [OSM-talk] Gamification and OSM (Was: Upgraded map controls)

2013-07-28 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Personally, I'd like a way to more easily scan what my friends are up to on OSM. I can get a feed of their recent changesets, but even that is pretty well hidden. Yes, and scocial interaction goes well beyond previously established friends. I might be interesting in following the

Re: [Talk-us] Spammy-sounding survey sent to my OSM inbox today.

2013-07-28 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 8:51 AM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: ** I might be the nicest person you have ever met, I hope I am a good OSM mapper, and I am kind to children and animals. However, I vehemently oppose OSM collecting any additional personally-identifiable data. My

Re: [Talk-us] Spammy-sounding survey sent to my OSM inbox today.

2013-07-27 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 4:37 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I don't know which OSM board but the OSMF board certainly didn't. The contrary is the case: http://www.openstreetmap.org/**user_blocks/369http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/369 I think it is time to follow this

Re: [Talk-us] Spammy-sounding survey sent to my OSM inbox today.

2013-07-27 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/7/27 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com I think it is *also* time to create a supportable sustainable strategy for future researchers or grad students. IMHO our data including all history is public

Re: [Talk-us] access restriction, water only: How to tag?

2013-07-26 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Thomas Colson thomas_col...@nps.govwrote: The intent is to convey what mode of travel is appropriate or “authorized” for each of 100+ campsites. Many are hiker-only, easily solved by “horse=no”, some are horse and hiker, a very few are hiker, horse, and

[Talk-us] Spammy-sounding survey sent to my OSM inbox today.

2013-07-26 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Did the OSM board approve a bulk survey activity, directed to OSM user's inboxes? The discussion on this survey was fairly negative a month ago, and today it showed up in my inbox: *padeshahekhoban* *26 July 2013 at 21:10* *Hello,* *I am researching on the motivations and behaviors of OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-GB] New tile rendering server (Experimental)

2013-07-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.comwrote: Great work, and thanks to Andy for his work re-writing the rendering rules in CartoCSS. I'm forwarding this to the general talk mailing list as I expect there will be some not Brits who will be pleased to hear

Re: [OSM-talk] Using OpenStreetMap on a daily basis

2013-07-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
It is as if the map was meant to be made, not used: Regarding all this: A current theme in OSM development is to make editing easier, so more people map. Without any quibble with better design or better tools: I'd rather use the output of hundreds of dedicated mappers, as opposed to the

Re: [OSM-talk] Using OpenStreetMap on a daily basis

2013-07-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Guillaume Pratte guilla...@guillaumepratte.net wrote: Hello, I have been a serious user of OpenStreetMap for less than six months, and I am proud to recently have achieved my one hundredth contribution to the project. I really love the OpenStreetMap project,

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Kai Krueger kakrue...@gmail.com wrote: We need publicity! Yes! Publicity is in my opinion one of the biggest things we need and should try and work on as a group. I wish this

Re: [Talk-us] Shield rendering and detours; tagging nicknames?

2013-07-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 5:28 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.comwrote: Still, I think detour routes might be a good idea, but only if somebody is willing to keep track of the projects and fix everything once the construction is finished. If the rendering is really really orange and

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2013-07-01 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: On 12.03.2012 08:56, Frederik Ramm wrote: There's nothing keeping one from applying the Tiles@Home lowzoom proces http://fred.dev.openstreetmap.**org/lowzoom/http://fred.dev.openstreetmap.org/lowzoom/ Nice. Those

Re: [OSM-talk] Please test this Native wikipedia link - feature

2013-06-28 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote: My idea was to use these Wikidata objects to link everybody to the Wikipedia article of his browser language. For the Universe article this should

Re: [OSM-talk] How useful is the JOSM wiki

2013-06-28 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 9:16 AM, colliar colliar4e...@aol.com wrote: Hey I wonder how useful the JOSM wiki is ? * Is it used at all ? * Why do only a handful persons edit it though you can even edit anonymously ? Comments ? I have no interest in, or use for, the JOSM wiki. These days I

Re: [Talk-us] A new openstreetmap.us

2013-06-28 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
The instructions currently read: *1. Create an account on OpenStreetMap.org* *2. Click on “edit” and pick one of the editors to edit the map* Which seems a bit sparse and perhaps intimidating. Could that have a 3? Editing the map is not every new person's goal. Maybe give 'em good examples

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: A short online questionnaire on the OSM users .....(It takes 48 seconds)

2013-06-27 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 6:31 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.uswrote: Please rethink this survey and try again. As Frederik Ramm suggest, please explain more about your research. Agreed. The survey is flawed in a number of ways, not the least of which it will capture only readers of

Re: [Talk-us] TorhamZed imports

2013-06-27 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
At first it looked like great photo mapping... fitting a pattern of a long distance team driving trucker doing 4-5 truck stops a day... But given buildings plopped onto roads: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16662943 And the comment: 16598240 June 18, 2013 03:59 Loves' # 458 -

[Talk-us] Onboarding new mappers | Keeping track of changes

2013-06-26 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Moved from another thread: On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 2:51 AM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: OSM has a peer review process in place right now. It is called watch the map, help it evolve, grow it as you can, if somebody does something odd/wrong/different, dialog with them. And then,

Re: [OSM-talk] Please test this Native wikipedia link - feature

2013-06-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote: My idea was to use these Wikidata objects to link everybody to the Wikipedia article of his browser language. For the Universe article this should be done by clicking this:

Re: [Talk-us] Cam4rd98 just doesn't get it

2013-06-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
What's your more specific concern, and what wording have you tried? Is your concern the future shopping centers as a concept, or the way they are tagged? On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:44 PM, Clay Smalley claysmal...@gmail.comwrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16078863

Re: [Talk-us] Cam4rd98 just doesn't get it

2013-06-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 12:29 AM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.comwrote: I'll let his comments here[1] on a note page speak Again, all I see is a well meaning user who very clearly is not yet absorbed OSM culture. There is no belligerence, just a bit of confusion. The tools could

Re: [Talk-us] what do we mean by geocoding?

2013-06-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Mark Newnham m...@newnhams.com wrote: I work in the Uitilities/Billing industry and do a reasonable amount of work in addressing quality (in order to get lower USPS rates with things like the Intelligent Mail Barcoder and suchlike). I'd just like to throw a

Re: [Talk-us] what do we mean by geocoding?

2013-06-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: The data that Bryce is talking to us about is post office locations. And even this, as we've begun to dig into it, is of limited value to the project, since we have to do the geocoding for this data. It's still worth

Re: [Talk-us] what do we mean by geocoding?

2013-06-22 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: Surveying postal addresses by opening mailboxes (illegal) or knocking on doors doesn't seem feasible. but the enhanced 911 addresses are basically the same as the postal addresses and have the potential to become

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS?

2013-06-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Thomas Colson thomas_col...@nps.govwrote: Is it preferable to keep the original GNIS tags if updating a GNIS object in OSM? I preserve the GNIS id number, even if I convert the feature from node to way (or vice versa). I do this not so much for later

Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow

2013-06-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Nathan Mills nat...@nwacg.net wrote: The sort of signs in the link below are precisely the sort of thing we put in OSM, or at least have historically. https://www.cityoftulsa.org/**community-programs/**

Re: [Talk-us] Road Restriction: No RV's?

2013-06-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Thomas Colson thomas_col...@nps.govwrote: Is there a tag equivalent for a road restriction that would imply no Recreational Vehicles/Motor Homes/Buses? Are you talking RV's as not advised or prohibited? And how about trucks with a given

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS?

2013-06-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.uswrote: At last years SOTM-US conference, USGS showed a pilot program using a modified version of Potlatch2 to update GNIS database with volunteers. If they use this plan, the id tag could be used to compare OSM with the new

Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow

2013-06-15 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:22 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/6/14 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com The OSM node could even link to a wiki page where the neighborhood can be described in all its richness and complexity. you could do this with wikipedia links

Re: [Talk-us] Cleaning up California FMMP residential

2013-06-15 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: I've been doing some California landuse and have come across a lot of landuse=residential imported from FMMP which is clearly wrong. The landuse=residential covers entire cities, including commercial, industrial, retail,

Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow

2013-06-15 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.uswrote: I wonder if it time to accept that we are unable to reach a consensus. Can we agree to let the local community decide which way to proceed? They are in the best position to know the issues surrounding neighborhood

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-13 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
What's relevant to map (and often hard to find in real life) are those number posts for each campground. Calling them parking is clearly pandering to the rendering, especially for walk-in sites. But using the address: that has a certain logic. What are those numbers other than the address of the

Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow

2013-06-13 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
The reasons *not* to use the Zillow dataset are clear: nobody but zillow can edit it, and it is based on low quality TIGER data. The flickr dataset is similarly suspect, if this is any indication: http://boundaries.tomtaylor.co.uk/#23512042 It shows San Francisco's *SoMA* (South of Market)

[Talk-us] OpenLegend (SOTM Sprint Proposal)

2013-06-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
For today's San Francisco SOTM Sprint, I'm writing to propose a design effort to bring together legends. The goal is to inspect each major map and build a legend, then combine those legends into a big cheat sheet. Then, inspect each editor and list the features it has presets for. The design

Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow

2013-06-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: As for Bryce's observation - Zillow does not have overlapping polygons as far as I know, so it is by its nature sort of rigid - but then again this is probably what they require for their use case, as there would be no way

[Talk-us] Seeking recommendation for single POI mapping toolchain

2013-06-09 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I'm interested in finding a robust, not necessarily free, set of tools for single feature mapping. For example: to openly map public health clinics I'd want: 1. A hosted web map (showing the clinics as a clickable icons). The map should be a module integrable into a larger subject matter

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-06-09 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Possible drivers of quality: 1. Peer reviewing, as a social gateway to community engagement with new mappers. 2. Hiring a physiologist on retainer to understand obsessed trolls like NE2, and respond appropriately. 3. Supporting single feature mappers. There's a vibrant community

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-06-07 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Mike Thompson miketh...@gmail.com wrote: Frederic, How about more mappers? Mike I think the key is more users of the maps. Not one in ten people I mention OSM to have ever heard of it: and I tend to run with geeks, outdoor enthusiasts, graduate students,

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-06-07 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Mike Thompson miketh...@gmail.comwrote: Frederic, How about more mappers? Mike I think the key is more users of the maps. By that I mean more eyeballs on the output: more passive

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-06-07 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Frederic Julien fjulie...@yahoo.comwrote: Dear all, I'm working on a presentation and interested to hear your thoughts. What are the top 2-3 changes that could improve OSM data quality? That could be processes, tools, methods, training, peer review,

Re: [Talk-us] AOL Patch and OpenStreetMap

2013-06-06 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 3:58 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: I now see Google used for the Yard sales in the area map. Just a guess: the Patch staff doesn't have resources for a map developer to create that set of interactive features using MapQuest Open. It was easier for them to just

[Talk-us] AOL Patch and OpenStreetMap

2013-06-05 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Not so long ago the maps used on AOL's patch properties were OpenStreetMap based. It really worked out well since so much of the content was locally generated, wiki content matched the wiki maps. That changed... anyone know when or why? ___ Talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] US Addressing

2012-11-30 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Is there evidence of Google using streetview plus OCR for addressing data yet? I could imagine the crowdsource version of this that recognizes street signs and codes the address blocks frequently found on them. ___ Talk-us mailing list

Re: [Talk-us] Post bot cleanup

2012-07-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 4:50 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: * Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com [2012-07-19 00:42 -0500]: Any other common problems that people have seen? The most common problem I see is a missing way. But all the nodes are there sitting in space. I've also tried:

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: Post bot cleanup

2012-07-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.netwrote: Depends whether you visit LA I guess ;) , but assuming you do, let's roll up our sleeves and fix it. I don't think that one self-proclaimed viking deciding not to agree to the new licence completely damns OSM! An

[Talk-us] One click quality printed maps (as an OSM advantage)

2011-12-04 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
There's something OSM could do well, that Google Maps can't, due to licensing restrictions: create good printable maps. Google and Mapquest both are pretty bad. The high volume use cases: * Printing a map for take along navigation, on a standard printer. * Exporting a map for embedding in

Re: [Talk-us] Any mappers local to NYC/LI?

2011-11-16 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On 11/16/2011 09:18 AM, Skye Book wrote: I'm doing a ton of work with the data made available from the city as of late and a gripe from some people employed by the local government about OSM is that it isn't making full use of the data that the city is putting out there for consumption.

Re: [Talk-us] Address improvement through imports?

2011-11-13 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On 11/10/2011 04:22 AM, Anthony wrote: On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Steven Johnsonsejohns...@gmail.com wrote: The Census Bureau, through their partnerships and liaisons with state local govt, are acutely aware of the need and importance of address data. They are in fact open to finding

Re: [Talk-us] Address improvement through imports?

2011-11-03 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On 11/03/2011 06:09 PM, Steven Johnson wrote: Up to now, we've been talking largely about addresses as point features. However, one thing I think would be good to have is block ranges on streets. What I mean is a tag that indicates this is the 1000 block, the 1100 block, the 1200 block, etc.

Re: [Talk-us] OSM inspector routing layer now also available in the US

2011-10-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On 10/04/2011 12:18 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Currently the only way to fix a dupe node in JOSM is to delete one and then re-extend all ways back to the other. If the node is in the middle of one of these ways, you also have to split. This is way too much work to fix a common issue. To

Re: [Talk-us] OSM inspector routing layer now also available in the US

2011-10-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On 10/04/2011 12:18 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Currently the only way to fix a dupe node in JOSM is to delete one and then re-extend all ways back to the other. If the node is in the middle of one of these ways, you also have to split. This is way too much work to fix a common issue. To

Re: [Talk-us] Slippymap for USGS topos?

2011-10-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I've been using http://mapper.acme.com/ which seems to source from: http://mytopo.com/ This least lets me flip between mapnik and usgs. It is not as good as having a true background layer during JOSM or Potlatch editing. ___ Talk-us mailing list

[Talk-us] Slippymap for USGS topos?

2011-09-07 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Good old usgs topographic maps are copyright free: http://nationalmap.gov/ustopo/faq.html And often a very useful reference when mapping, particularly in remote areas. I am aware of: http://toposm.com/us/ But is there a way to get USGS topographic slippymaps as a background in JSOM?

Re: [Talk-us] Planning to import speed limit data for Florida

2011-09-01 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
ogr2osm converts the FDOT file just fine. It also loads up without trouble into qgis. But the road IDs are not very useful. Alligator Alley is 03175000, which is not a FIHS number, or a Tiger:tlid You have to get the localname.shp file to get more interesting names like: NAME

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