propose to just retag them as anything other than admin_level=4, any
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/tags/shop and add the new value with a description.
Or, you recently tagged a node with shop=literature, but the database
(visible at whatever/tags/shop/literature) suggests that this is
deprecated in favour of shop=bookshop. Perhaps you would like to change it?
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the first non-map picture. That would either
require Wikipedia to tag their images somehow, or require the script to
guess which images look more like maps. There is certainly software which
can distinguish photographs from line drawings.
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should
be preferred over png's because png's are more often computer drawn,
things like maps :)
Yes I think that would be an improvement.
You might also try biasing towards larger image sizes (either in dimensions
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foundation claim
copyright over the map data' but rather 'do we claim that the map data is
a work subject to copyright'. As far as I know OSM is still making that
claim, and there are no plans to change this.
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doing that, but it is a bit disheartening to return from a postbox
mapping expedition to find that all 250 postboxes in the area were already
located on the Dracos site, but the information hadn't percolated back to
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along the
boundary
of each field with a GPS device is a practical way to do it. And
high-resolution
aerial photography is unlikely to be available for rural areas. So I wonder
where the OS get their data from?
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and above
(where scale is pretty constant, unless you have a freakishly large web
browser window) and omit it for lower zoom levels?
Or is the problem that it would need to change as you slip the map north
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Good work! This must mean that if we see Ordnance Survey maps in secondhand
shops with a copyright date of 1958 or earlier, we should buy them and start
scanning them in.
(I know about the npemaps site; is there some other collection of out-of-
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or old_name
tag, which should also be read by search engines.
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duplicate information from
other tags, I would suggest omitting it, just as 'Holy Trinity' is usually
better
than 'Holy Trinity Church'.
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This is some interesting work from Microsoft Research, taking photos on
Flickr and processing them to create three-dimensional models of buildings
and cities. http://grail.cs.washington.edu/rome/
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That is, unless Wikipedia and the OSM project disagree about the legal status
of the information and whether it can be distributed under CC-BY-SA, in which
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, but rendering the Google Maps tiles underneath.
That seems a bit lame.
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Shouldn't the name tags in Seoul also be fixed a bit? Instead of a Hangul name
followed by a Latin-alphabet name in brackets, wouldn't it be better to tag
name...@hangul and name...@latin separately?
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the Blackberry's builtin GPS, but I think you could
use this app to record traces too. I haven't dug around to see if it lets you
export GPX format.
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Update: yes, TMJ-Mobile does record tracks and you can save them as GPX.
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If you prefer web interfaces, you can participate in this list via
http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap. That is what I am doing
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want to know whether the traces adjust for height above
the earth's surface, or have reliable altitude measurements. I haven't needed
that data myself when mapping, but if it's useful for somebody and quick to
add, why not add it?)
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on. These could be turned into tags for storage in the database, as long
as everyone agrees on what tags to use.
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. Because 90% of users (even on a
pretty technical site like osm.org) will have no idea what geoid undulation is
or whether their GPS device does it.
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My device has an altimeter but I rarely calibrate it because I didn't realize
altitude data was that useful for OSM. However, a recent trip to Edinburgh
(where there are lots of streets crossing above each other) has made the
usefulness of 3D map data more apparent.
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to check and
tag it on the map?
Apparently the gridlock is going to be resolved soon, because the mayor of
Clichy-la-Garenne has been ordered to undo his one-way restriction.
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clambering over rocks, or is it only for well-maintained
and permissive paths?
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The GPX track upload is working again now.
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really understand what it is reporting?
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most city names are not
translated, but there are still a hundred or so worldwide which do have their
own
name in most major languages.
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* National Portrait Gallery
- No results found
See discussion of slashes above.
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' on all the objects they changed; finding
out which changesets have touched an object can be done automatically.
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There are plenty of unnamed streets on the map - where in the real world no
name has been assigned by the local authority. We could name those streets
after top OSM contributors.
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, this is a really neat feature. Perhaps 'Oxfordshire, United
Kingdom - Openstreetmap' would be even better.
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extent a bit annoyed to see things like name = name in
native language (English translation) in the OSM files.
Agreed. Once multilingual map rendering becomes common, we can expect to
see these cleaned up pretty quickly.
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main language is English, but I also speak French and
Spanish' and so on? There's a huge number of such combinations, but perhaps
only a few are common (it would be good to get statistics of Accept-Language
http headers on the main osm.org site).
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Great stuff! I've been using keepright in London for a while now.
The most common form of error is an almost-junction. It seems that many of
these could be fixed automatically, subject to manual confirmation. Is there
any tool that can do this?
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! So I suggest adding a 'go there' link to each
bubble, even though it is redundant.
Also maybe you could add a 'next cool thing' link to let you skip through each
bubble in a circle, like skipping to the next episode in a webcomic.
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http://www.spatialknowledge.eu/ABCAtlas/openlayers.html is a scan of the
London 'ABC Street Atlas' from 1933/34. It is suggested on the OSM wiki as
a data source; is it judged okay to copy information such as street names and
layout from this atlas into OSM?
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names, like 'Gorilla Kingdom'
Agreed.
Using 'name' for the type of animal is a case of tagging for the renderer, which
is fine as a short-term way to make sure the OSM slippy map displays the
layout of Berlin Zoo, but it's not the best way to model the data.
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the right tagging is 'animal=Loxodonta africana'
or 'species=Loxodonta africana', rather than putting it into 'name'.
Local-language species names could be 'species:en=African elephant' or similar,
though in principle they can be looked up automatically from the scientific
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Ed Avis eda at waniasset.com writes:
Rather than plant_type=orange_tree or similar, I think it would make more sense
to tag plants and trees with the scientific (Latin) name of their species or
hybrid. These are already standardized and the local language translations
('citrus x sinensis
can be freely copied. In which case the OSM project has already
achieved its aim (of free map data) kind of by default, and all that
remains is to view some areas in Google Maps and start copying in the
streets and other features.
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and Mason vs
Montgomery.
I will read those (anyone got a link?).
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have to, I guess. Just make sure that
site visitors aren't caught in the crossfire, and do not end up having to agree
(explicitly or implicitly) to waive some of their rights.
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to do future relicensing exercises then why not simply
ask
for copyright assignment? It is more honest that way I think.
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consideration, for example a
monetary payment. It's not clear that putting up an intimidating screenful
of legal boilerplate accomplishes anything.
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, the tone of responses seems to be that lawyers aren't really
welcome here, so I'll shut up again.
I am sorry about the tone of my previous message - I would like to hear more
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fine, then I suppose we can go with that.
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not on
the one I have, which is a couple of years old). So it's a bit academic.
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as long as nobody somehow gets a copy other than from the OSM website...
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the correct
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people, would certainly be effective in discouraging contributions to OSM.
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the Royal Mail, be added to OSM?
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, following the OSM guidelines on verifiability, instead of making new
classification rules for tree / bush / shrub / whatever, just tag the size of
the plant in metres.
Of course this doesn't cover the tagging of pots; as far as I am aware there is
no existing categorization for those :-p.
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gregory at arenius.com writes:
Death:
*Graveyard
*Crematorium
I think there is some difference between a graveyard and a churchyard, so the
latter should also be a tag.
Education:
*School
*College
*Library
*University
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type in their reply rather than be
expected to use Potlatch etc. (We can get them addicted to that later!) Then
a more advanced OSM contributor would see the question and answer in
OpenStreetBugs and update the database.
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concerned with providing useful data to routing program. Are there some
I can test with to see what is expected? Cloudmade Maps provides directions but
its data is not frequently updated.
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about in-car navigation units.
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is possible (because the
OSM data has been edited in the meantime, or whatever), it could still log
OpenStreetBugs to request manual attention.
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Ed Avis eda at waniasset.com writes:
I tried to upload a .gpx file with about 4500 trackpoints, but when I press
Upload the page waits for about a minute and then my web browser says 'The
connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.'.
I'm pleased to report this now works
Carsten Nielsen list_reply at toensberg.dk writes:
Why is there nolonger any OSM based Garmin maps (img), available for
download ?
Have you tried http://downloads.cloudmade.com/europe/denmark/denmark.img.zip?
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the changeset is closed. Then we could add comments to
older changesets predating the 0.6 API switch, for example, or mark a particular
changeset as 'mistaken upload, corrected in 12345', and so on. The actual data
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smaller, and this was before the 0.6 upgrade.)
I have put the file at http://membled.com/work/exeter.gpx if you want to
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the changes made with the old API, and grouped into
changesets at the upgrade.
I imagine that only the original uploader would have permission to set
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Congratulations! Excellent work. I will start uploading my backlog of edits
shortly...
Does this mean you can now set up Postgres on your PC, load a planet file, and
get the same database layout as the main server?
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warranty.
I don't know if competing units have better build quality.
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points, reduce multiple lines etc. and stuff like these.
What format is the data in currently?
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a
mixture, tick several boxes.) That would avoid confusion from aeroplane logs
that don't correspond to land features, and when enough data was collected, it
would be possible to spot roads misclassified as footways, incorrect one-ways,
and so on.
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was
recorded only with bicycle, or that it contains some bicycle sections?)
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volunteer time for this project, but they do seem
to be making some progress: http://peoplesmap.blogspot.com/. I suppose Google
Map Maker is in a similar situation.
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such areas would be required to cover inner London (the area of a 'Mini
A-Z'). However, this price is for '1 to 10 hard copies' - I don't know how much
they would want in exchange for providing photos that can be used in OSM. Since
OSM is a competitor to People's Map, they might ask a lot.
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still find it necessary to print a paper
copy of the no-names map for the area I'm about to visit. (I wonder if
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GroundTruth would give better results?)
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On the OSM front page the map now has what look like square gridlines, making
Greenland look made out of graph paper. Is this a permanent change?
The pattern of the grid is square throughout the map, which doesn't match the
Mercator projection, so what are they intended to show?
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between two or more houses, or on commercial rather than
residential land, I will add.
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device generates useful hdop values, but clearly some do (like
mine). And not every device includes them in GPX output (mine doesn't), but
some do include them. I just hope the intersection of the two sets is nonempty!
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Shaun McDonald shaun at shaunmcdonald.me.uk writes:
What is the size of the track that you are trying to upload?
The GPX file is about 250 kilobytes.
The upload process is still failing today, it seems.
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It would have to be an area that isn't covered by any existing map, or any
widely-available satellite imagery, otherwise the temptation to copy would be
too great. Paying people nothing for mapping work is one of the best ways to
keep them honest.
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When I try to upload a GPS track using http://openstreetmap.org/traces/mine,
it takes a while and then gives a blank page. The track does not appear in the
list (even as 'pending').
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connect the unit to a laptop and record the tracks with
gpsd, but I would prefer to just carry the unit and recover the track log
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wonder if there is a free equivalent to get it
working with gpsd or similar on Linux?
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community can tag the name in their own language. So I hope
this proof of concept can eventually be incorporated into the OSM front page!
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call it a 'track', while a well-maintained road that
just happens to be private is 'service'.
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are compatible and incompatible, there is a certain
maximum level of complexity, and rules that generate long discussions on the
mailing list are probably too complex to stand up in court. (Taking a
pessimistic view.)
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lost somewhere waiting for moderator approval or something).
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CC-BY-SA only. If all of the old work without the extra consent is deleted, and
all work derived from it (see earlier discussion), then you could distribute the
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, provided it's done under the CC-BY-SA.
It is not necessary to have a big relicensing-and-deletion exercise to add this
extra waiver of database rights, because everyone already agreed to let OSM
distribute the data under CC-BY-SA and that's all we are doing.
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