Re: [Talk-us] place=city name=Tri-Cities

2011-02-24 Per discussione Toby Murray
Seems like out here in Kansas/Nebraska a lot of cities are a member of some tri-city region but I think it is almost always made up by the local weather man who just wants a quick way to refer to this area here while pointing at his magic green screen. It is nothing I would want to see on a map.

Re: [Talk-us] Sevier Lake Anomaly

2011-02-17 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: The OpenCycleMap elevation data comes from the SRTM dataset, which was obtained by taking stereoscopic images from the Space Shuttle. I thought the R stood for Radar, not steReoscopic? But yes, SRTM data is known for being

Re: [Talk-us] USGS National Hydrography Dataset

2011-02-17 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Val Kartchner val...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 08:57 -0500, Phil! Gold wrote: (TopOSM also shows a lot of intermittent streams from the USGS National Hydrography Dataset.) Can we get this USGS dataset loaded?  It would be more accurate than

Re: [OSM-talk] Power-user GPS app for Android?

2011-02-15 Per discussione Toby Murray
That's a pretty long and very specific list of requirements for a single app. As others have said, you will probably need to make use of multiple apps to cover all of this functionality. One app I haven't seen mentioned yet is OSMTracker. It is useful as a surveying aid. It records traces and

Re: [OSM-talk] 12nm territorial borders - useful or rubbish?

2011-02-14 Per discussione Toby Murray
Well there is at least one place where other information has been taken into account: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=5lon=-9.46zoom=6layers=M ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] SotM '11 - Denver - The Map, before

2011-02-13 Per discussione Toby Murray
I did some mapping in Denver when I was there for WhereCamp in November. It seems like there are a few areas that are insanely well mapped (houses traced with house numbers) and a lot of areas that haven't been touched since the TIGER import. For anyone wanting to improve the map, one thing to

Re: [OSM-talk] Boundary rendering bug

2011-02-11 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 4:48 AM, Lennard l...@xs4all.nl wrote: The *way* renders z9-z11. The *relation* renders z11+. Aha. It all becomes clear. It still seems a little odd that a way without any admin_level tag is rendered before an admin_level=6 way/boundary though. I would personally prefer

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage - more levels

2011-02-10 Per discussione Toby Murray
I have come across a couple of seemingly immutable tiles that refuse to re-render even though higher resolution imagery is available. For example: http://ant.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/?lat=39.19008048219242lon=-96.60511479564622zoom=14 Toby

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage - more levels

2011-02-10 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 4:37 PM, ant antof...@gmail.com wrote: On 10.02.2011 20:25, Lennard wrote: @ant: Would it be possible to have the editors collect and report* on the available zoom levels, as users download Bing tiles while editing? That's a brilliant idea, but I'm not involved in how

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 2 tutorial video: part 1 (rough cut)

2011-02-10 Per discussione Toby Murray
I think the video is great. I will definitely point some new mappers at it. You show how to achieve a single mapping goal in simple terms. The audio is a little odd though. It sounds like maybe your mic gain is set too high and there is some clipping going on. And the levels are out of whack.

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: collateral damage (was: What the license change is going to do to the map)

2011-02-10 Per discussione Toby Murray
Does anyone think more discussion is going to yield anything useful? It is obvious that Anthony is unwilling to accept a nearly universally held community consensus. I initially thought that the wholesale nuking of all his contributions was a little drastic. But his continued anti-community

Re: [OSM-talk] What the license change is going to do to the map

2011-02-09 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com wrote: I would like to say that I'm surprised no one has created a tool yet to simulate what a given area would look like after the switchover given the current (or simulated) list of users that have agreed to the new terms. Like this?

Re: [OSM-talk] Boundary rendering bug

2011-02-09 Per discussione Toby Murray
multipolygons once they reach the renderer so all the rules here apply: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:multipolygon#Usage - Daniel On Feb 9, 2011, at 11:27 AM, Toby Murray wrote: Well like I said, leaving the admin_level=6 on the ways is indeed tagging for the renderer. However

Re: [OSM-talk] Boundary rendering bug

2011-02-09 Per discussione Toby Murray
, Toby Murray wrote: What you say makes perfect sense. But you got my situation wrong. When admin_level=6 *IS* specified on the way it doesn't render until z11. When it is only on the relation but NOT on the way then it renders at z9. Toby On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Daniel Sabo daniels

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage

2011-02-08 Per discussione Toby Murray
This tool has helped me to spot a threat to life as we know it! Behold, the zombies are upon us! http://i.imgur.com/rmmQD.jpg And apparently they are hanging out over Haiti. Did I just find patient zero of the cholera outbreak? I'm sure it will re-render shortly but here is the perma link:

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage - more levels

2011-02-08 Per discussione Toby Murray
My only comment would be that the dark green kind of looks like you just turned down the opacity of the regular green layer. But it still gets the point across I suppose. The zoom levels seem reasonable to me. Toby ___ talk mailing list

[OSM-talk] Boundary rendering bug

2011-02-08 Per discussione Toby Murray
I think I have identified a Mapnik style bug in boundary rendering but since I am not very familiar with rendering rules I thought I would make sure other people think it is a bug before I submit a ticket about it. A few days ago I reworked the county boundaries in Colorado and then tonight in

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage

2011-02-07 Per discussione Toby Murray
What is your definition of hires? Zooming in on my city shows green where I would consider the imagery to be decent but nothing spectacular. (I think it is mostly just USGS ~1m imagery reused by Bing) Nice bit of code though. Toby On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 8:41 AM, ant antof...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage

2011-02-07 Per discussione Toby Murray
Well the jump from 13 to 14 is a pretty big milestone for aerial imagery. You go from rough blobs to distinguishable features. So that does make sense. But yeah, all of the US is just going to be solid green with this definition. Maybe a red/yellow/green scheme? Red means z14, yellow indicates

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage

2011-02-07 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:02 AM, ant antof...@gmail.com wrote: Can you give an example of a zoom 20 region? I'd like to have a look. http://ant.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/?lat=39.294169460227224lon=-94.71799114942492zoom=20 ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM layer in Layar

2011-02-05 Per discussione Toby Murray
I have updated the Layar page on the wiki to reflect my findings on the subject. I can't seem to get the Mapido or obviously the UK specific layer to work. If anyone in the UK and in major cities could try those and update the wiki accordingly that would be great! Still no word on who runs the

[OSM-talk] OSM layer in Layar

2011-02-04 Per discussione Toby Murray
For those of you not familiar with Layar[1], it is an augmented reality app for phones. You hold your phone up in front of you and it superimposes POIs on the picture coming in from the camera using GPS and compass to tell where you are and where you are looking. Anyway, my university recently

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM layer in Layar

2011-02-04 Per discussione Toby Murray
2011/2/4 Matthias Meißer dig...@arcor.de: I guess it was on the german forum long time ago: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=7935 This seems to be an older effort. At the end it links to an almost blank wiki page that doesn't list the layer that I found. I will spruce up that

Re: [OSM-talk] Creative Commons: Use CC for databases

2011-02-01 Per discussione Toby Murray
A link would be helpful. Don't see anything like this on his blog. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [Imports] Questions about importing data for University of Vermont campus

2011-01-28 Per discussione Toby Murray
I am trying to convince Kansas State University to do something similar! Unfortunately the last I heard on the subject was along the lines of The OSM data is awesome... how do we get it into Google?! So we'll have to see how that goes. As Frederik has said, the OSM database is public and we like

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-Photos] OpenTrailView update: now with walkthroughs and links with OSM data

2011-01-25 Per discussione Toby Murray
I uploaded a few sets of two images in the US a while ago. Were these deleted in the upgrade because they weren't panoramas? Toby ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER edited map updated with Toby's suggestion

2011-01-24 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Andrew Ayre a...@britishideas.com wrote: Sorry, the village of Summerhaven, which I totally reworked in Sep 2009 is still shown in red: http://open.mapquestapi.com/tigerviewer/index.html?zoom=12lat=32.438lon=-110.75635layers=B I haven't checked every way in

Re: [OSM-talk] Tropic of Cancer(Slightly OT)

2011-01-19 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:23 AM, ed...@billiau.net wrote: you should be able to construct this with a text editor as a gpx file is written in xml For a little fun before bed I wrote a quick utility to do this. Result: http://ni.kwsn.net/~toby/OSM/tropic_cancer.gpx It has one trackpoint for

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=Observatory OR amenity=astronomical_observatory

2011-01-10 Per discussione Toby Murray
With all the complaints about the amenity tag being overloaded already, this seems like a good opportunity to avoid doing it more. Toby On Jan 9, 2011 5:35 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 09/01/2011 21:06, marcellobil...@gmail wrote: Hi all, just a question for all the community

Re: [OSM-talk] New user mistakenly nuking things

2011-01-09 Per discussione Toby Murray
Well I just went ahead and did it with the JOSM plugin. I think the desired effect was achieved. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/6922696 Turns out he thought he was just making changes to a local copy of the data but was actually uploading the changes to the server. The changeset

Re: [OSM-talk] New user mistakenly nuking things

2011-01-09 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 11:36 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Show him some of the existing alternative renderings, like opencyclemap and wheelmap.org.  Also the University of Maryland pedestrian map. http://www.map.umd.edu/map/# Then have a look at the route filters. ;-)

[OSM-talk] New user mistakenly nuking things

2011-01-08 Per discussione Toby Murray
So I have a new user in my city (yay!) and he actually wants to use OSM for an interesting project because The details are much more accurate that Google. So that's awesome :) Unfortunately he accidentally nuked a bunch of nodes in one area. He tried to re-add them but he didn't get them all. He

Re: [OSM-talk] How do I get higher-resolution imagery in JOSM?

2011-01-07 Per discussione Toby Murray
Have you tried bumping up the zoom setting in the imagery plugin preferences? The setting is in tile zoom level. I think by default it only goes up to z18 but I have been able to bump it up to z21 in some areas. Of course if you set it higher than the available imagery you will eventually start

Re: [OSM-talk] How do I get higher-resolution imagery in JOSM?

2011-01-07 Per discussione Toby Murray
the blank tiles. Toby On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried bumping up the zoom setting in the imagery plugin preferences? The setting is in tile zoom level. I think

Re: [OSM-talk] How do I get higher-resolution imagery in JOSM?

2011-01-07 Per discussione Toby Murray
Oh nice! Guess I'll be updating my JOSM tonight :) Thanks for your work. Toby On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Upliner upli...@gmail.com wrote: This feature is already implemented in version 3774 2011/1/7 Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com I assume because 18 is what is available in most

Re: [OSM-talk] Is there an Android OS app for osm?

2011-01-03 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 5:14 PM, nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au wrote: Is there an Android OS app for osm? Several! http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Android I personally have used OsmAnd for navigation. It can also add simple POIs. Vespucci is a pretty powerful editor but not the easiest

Re: [Talk-us] examples of US County Boundary relations

2011-01-01 Per discussione Toby Murray
My county seems to be pretty good. I haven't done any work on the relation itself, just aligning the member ways. But I believe it is complete and well tagged. Individual ways are shared with the neighboring county's boundary relation which makes sense

Re: [Talk-us] Why addr:state rather than is_in:state?

2010-12-31 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 5:23 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Having said that - this is what he had in mind when we invented addr:*, but of course if the wider community wants to use addr:* for different stuff then I guess we cannot keep them from it... It looks like the

Re: [OSM-talk] Did Googles map quality recently degrade?

2010-12-21 Per discussione Toby Murray
Maybe OSM data leaked into their map like it did in south america and then they deleted it because of license violations? :) Toby On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, I was just browsing on Google

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2010 Imports

2010-12-21 Per discussione Toby Murray
We have discussed [1] a cheaper way of doing it to at least be a better approximation and Antony commented on my blog saying that they would try to incorporate this. http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2010-December/004977.html (and the following 3 messages) Toby On Tue, Dec 21,

Re: [OSM-talk] open.mapquest.com launched for the US

2010-12-18 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 8:28 AM, John Mitchell mitchellj...@gmail.com wrote: If I use googlemaps or the old classic mapquest for driving directions in the US it always finds the addresses that I am looking for but using the new mapquest in most cases does not because of the incomplete address

Re: [OSM-talk] Massive import of airports

2010-12-17 Per discussione Toby Murray
In my area it looks like a couple of small rural grass strips was added. The hospital helipad was initially duplicated but then re-deleted in a subsequent changeset by the same user. So it looks like there was at least SOME attempt at de-duplicating things, even if it was done after the fact.

Re: [OSM-talk] Massive import of airports

2010-12-17 Per discussione Toby Murray
The source is documented in both the changeset comments and on the nodes themselves. I saw a conversation on IRC to the effect that the data is indeed PD so there don't seem to be any worries on that front at least. Toby On Dec 17, 2010 3:10 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: On

Re: [OSM-talk] open.mapquest.com launched for the US

2010-12-17 Per discussione Toby Murray
What makes you think this is an extract? Did you try scrolling over to Europe? Also the .com domain is only the latest one to be rolled out. These sites have all been online for several months already: http://open.mapquest.co.uk/ http://open.mapquest.in/ http://open.mapquest.it/

Re: [OSM-talk] open.mapquest.com launched for the US

2010-12-17 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 6:27 PM, John Mitchell mitchellj...@gmail.com wrote: I tried searching by my home address and it could not find it.  When I tried it on Mapquest classic it found that same address. They use nominatim for their open.mapquest.* sites so if you can find your house on

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2010 Imports

2010-12-16 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: Looks like any road that was last edited by balrog-kun is set to red, regardless of where it came from originally. Yes, yesterday we determined that the TIGER edited map only looks at the latest version of a way.

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2010 Imports

2010-12-16 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Mike N. nice...@att.net wrote:    I don't know how to back to git directly, plus I have no way to test this, but I've attached the logic to check TIGER version as I understand it. At first I thought this wasn't quite right but actually I guess it might be. The

Re: [Talk-us] Open.MapQuest.com launched for the US

2010-12-16 Per discussione Toby Murray
Nice! Slight bug: It looks like amenity=bench nodes are being labeled with with push pins when you select the dollar sign labeled Banks in the show me this category bar at the top. There are no banks in this park. There ARE however 4 benches :) http://open.mapquest.com/link/8-qDCJmGzf Toby On

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2010 Imports

2010-12-15 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: How much of that is there, anyway? Look at the TIGER edited map. There is *lots* of untouched TIGER data in OSM: http://open.mapquestapi.com/tigerviewer/index.html?zoom=9lat=40.07546lon=-76.32layers=B At the risk of

Re: [Talk-us] NE2: Changeset 6612910: What is?

2010-12-13 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: I fixed up some of the U.S. Highway relations, most notably US 24, which was cut down to a couple ways in western Kansas for a few months. Hmm it wasn't me who broke US 24 out west, was it? I have been known to tinker

Re: [OSM-talk] Glittermap

2010-12-06 Per discussione Toby Murray
Just saw a tweet from Ed Parsons that might be relevant to glittermap! Use with care animated pins http://goo.gl/a3Q8g, could be the mapping equivalent of blink/blink Toby On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, glitter today, dragons sea monsters

Re: [Talk-us] How to use 2010 NAIP imagery for tracing?

2010-12-04 Per discussione Toby Murray
Well I've been using it in JOSM for a good chunk of the day now, editing I-70 in western Kansas and eastern Colorado along my drive to wherecamp. It has been working pretty well. Every once in a while it seems to slow down a bit but it is certainly usable. I am using the tilecache in the imagery

Re: [OSM-talk] Microstation import

2010-12-03 Per discussione Toby Murray
Hmm I have wondered about DGN files before. The Kansas department of transportation has maps available online in DGN format (all public domain!) For example most of the city maps are available as either PDF or DGN: http://www.ksdot.org/burtransplan/maps/Mapscities.asp So far I haven't really

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing Tracing

2010-11-26 Per discussione Toby Murray
I believe the powers that be wanted to get some legal details straightened out before they made things live. Considering that it is a holiday weekend here in the US, that isn't going going to happen until monday at the earliest. Toby On Nov 26, 2010 6:46 AM, Floris Looijesteijn o...@floris.nu

Re: [OSM-talk] Something wrong with planet file? Or osmosis?

2010-11-26 Per discussione Toby Murray
I think you are seeing the problem with java's built in bzip2 library. It doesn't support all bzip2 features. Try unzipping the planet file using an external program and piping it into osmosis. Like this (assuming you are on linux): bunzip2 planet.bz2 | osmosis --rx /dev/stdin [...] There is a

Re: [Talk-us] Highway shields

2010-11-25 Per discussione Toby Murray
I think there is pretty good consensus on interstates and US highways as far as rendering goes. As I recall the debate centered about how to tag them and also whether to render individual state shields since there is much more variety and some of them may not look as good at low pixel counts. But

Re: [OSM-talk] South Pole?

2010-11-24 Per discussione Toby Murray
It looks like you are trying to create a multipolygon relation. Would you like some help with that? On Nov 24, 2010 2:16 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/11/24 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com: On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce search box with result suggestions

2010-11-24 Per discussione Toby Murray
I find this annoying as well. I believe it happens because (at least here in the US) cities are mapped twice. Once using a node in the center of the city and once using the administrative boundary multipolygon relation. I'm guessing the nodes exist because some tools don't know how to deal with

Re: [OSM-talk] South Pole?

2010-11-15 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Nakor nakor@gmail.com wrote: My next question is then: what is the correct place to report it? Trac. But it has already been reported there: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/1327 Toby ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Changeset 6234414

2010-11-12 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 5:25 AM, vitor vitor.geo...@gmail.com wrote: It seems to be a new user from Brazil trying to upload a .dwg without much knowledge. I´ll try to contact him. Did you find out anything? I see the changeset hasn't been reverted yet Toby

Re: [OSM-talk] Zillow's Neighborhood Data

2010-11-11 Per discussione Toby Murray
Interesting. The Kansas one isn't all that impressive as it only has information for Wichita. Neighborhood boundaries aren't exactly at the top of my list of things to map however I have done some apartment complexes and I'm guessing those would show up in these files. I'm not familiar enough with

Re: [OSM-talk] Google fumbles again in latin america

2010-11-05 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: AFAIK no one has ever advocated removing the TIGER tags other than tiger_reviewed = no. Actually... http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2010-July/003761.html ___

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging bicycle anti-routes

2010-11-04 Per discussione Toby Murray
Someone in my area decided to try and make a bicycle map. He used this scheme: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Class:bicycle And rendered this map: http://bikemanhattan.info/ Now I know people are going to complain that this is a subjective tag and that it shouldn't be in OSM. And I don't

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps

2010-11-02 Per discussione Toby Murray
Hmm this isn't the first time that OSM data has found its way into some 3rd party platform via some unnamed provider. Do google, etc not ask any questions about the data source from these providers? Or are the provider(s) lying about it? Toby ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Anyone read the CC0 legal code?

2010-10-31 Per discussione Toby Murray
Currently the checkbox has absolutely no bearing on the license that your data is distributed under. It really is just a statement of purpose which is noted in the account settings but doesn't actually DO anything. Toby On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Niklas Cholmkvist towards...@gmail.com

Re: [Talk-us] Divided diamond interchanges in the US

2010-10-28 Per discussione Toby Murray
A friend of mine found a flickr set from MODOT with more aerial imagery (not rectified but high resolution) http://www.flickr.com/photos/26387...@n06/sets/72157621103069705 This makes it obvious that there is indeed a direct link over to Norton and that it is open as you can see cars driving on

Re: [Talk-us] Route Tagging Consensus

2010-10-26 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On 10/25/2010 08:43 AM, Zeke Farwell wrote: For Michigan route 12: ref=12 network=state state=michigan For Bennington County route 16 in Vermont: ref=16 network=county state=vermont county=bennington I like it,

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate exit junction tagging

2010-10-25 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Mike N. nice...@att.net wrote:  Some have commented that placing exit sign information in the name results in a cluttered map because the name renders instead of the ref.   I agree with this. I am not opposed to changing however just to be clear, both mapnik

[Talk-us] About TIGER ways in Kansas

2010-10-24 Per discussione Toby Murray
So I just started my first blog on Friday night. I made the first real post today about a class project I just finished in which I made a thematic map concerning the TIGER ways in Kansas. I'm hoping it will further the discussion about the 2010 TIGER data. The blog made it's worldwide debut on IRC

Re: [Talk-us] Mapquest does (or did) use relations

2010-10-24 Per discussione Toby Murray
Odd. I-70 shields are only missing between Topeka and Oakley. On the other hand, all of I-135 is missing shields. On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2010-July/003672.html The results are a bit different

Re: [OSM-talk] MapQuest welcomes Thea Clay and Nominatim, Potlatch2, TIGER Edited Map Viewer go up on Developer Network

2010-10-21 Per discussione Toby Murray
Wow! This is great stuff! I do have some questions about the TIGER edited map. For example, go here: http://open.mapquestapi.com/tigerviewer/index.html?zoom=9lat=39.10819lon=-97.54698layers=B Now zoom in one level. Most of the roads change from green to red. Unfortunately I am inclined to

Re: [OSM-talk] Planet database size?

2010-10-19 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: My planet mirror is still well under 200GB and I haven't vacuum-ed in a while.  Are you using planet, or the full-history planet? What options are you using in osm2pgsql ? I'm importing to an apidb schema using osmosis,

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-19 Per discussione Toby Murray
So to get back to the basics of this thread... I think we can all agree that we should (and are) using relations to represent highway routes and that we need to get renderer support for route relations ASAP. So then the question is what tags to use on relations. From what I have seen in the wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] Planet database size?

2010-10-18 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:50 AM, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: The first thing to ask is, if a serial iteration through the planet will be acceptable. Most statistics can be done this way and it is always faster on slow disks. Peter I wasn't after just straight statistics. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Planet database size?

2010-10-18 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Simon Biber simonbi...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Hi Toby, Going by the statistics here, the main OSM postgresql database is now over 1.4 TB. Though, due to continued deletion and insertion, there could be some wasted space inside. A planet import should be

[OSM-talk] Planet database size?

2010-10-17 Per discussione Toby Murray
So I was hoping to do some data analysis on some things in planet.osm for a class project. I knew it was a large data set but now osmosis has been running for 2 weeks and used disk space is up 475 GB. I am kind of wondering how far it will go. At one point I saw someone on IRC estimate 200 GB -

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-16 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: This is why we have route relations.  It's getting to the point of ridiculous that we don't have proper rendering of something as basic as a route relation. Didn't we determine that Mapquest is most likely using

Re: [OSM-talk] Anonymous edits on OpenStreetMap through Tor

2010-10-07 Per discussione Toby Murray
Typically the way I've seen it set up, the browser is configured to send requests through a proxy that is running on the local machine which then routes traffic out over tor. So most (all?) flash and even some javascript won't be affected and will send traffic out from your real IP without tor.

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding the full name of a business

2010-09-29 Per discussione Toby Murray
The day someone tells me that I have to collect signatures from every business I map is the day I stop contributing to OSM. With all respect to local laws... that is just plain ridiculous, lawyers be damned. Where would this archive of signatures even exist? Does OSMF have a secret bunker under a

Re: [OSM-talk] Countries that have NOT had any imports?

2010-09-29 Per discussione Toby Murray
Well if you are willing to wait a week or two, I might be able to shed some light on the issue. I decided to take a cartography course this semester. One of our projects is to create a thematic map of our choosing and I was hoping to make one related to OSM. I just started playing with osmosis

Re: [OSM-talk] Countries that have NOT had any imports?

2010-09-29 Per discussione Toby Murray
Yeah the physical spread of people out here in the middle part of the country is pretty sparse and I think a lot of people don't quite get that. There is a good chunk of Kansas where the population density is 5 people per square mile or less. And those 5 people have absolutely no use for maps

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] In what direction should OSM go?

2010-09-29 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: In the particular case we were talking about data that cannot be obtained by surveying (*). [...] (*) I actually can't think of any boundary data for which this is the case, though. In that case I guess I need a how-to. How

Re: [OSM-talk] Think before you bot

2010-09-27 Per discussione Toby Murray
I hadn't heard of the ITO one before but I have been using OWL which performs a similar function. It is typically mere minutes behind my edits (and has a graph showing how far behind it really is): http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/owl_viewer/ Toby On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Dave F.

Re: [Talk-us] Another regional bugfix feed

2010-09-27 Per discussione Toby Murray
Well just for fun I fixed one speed limit bug. However I am not comfortable fixing most of the speed limit bugs in the area I was looking at (Wichita, KS) because they are just points and do not describe for how long the reported speed limit is valid. The speed limit is 50 at this location isn't

Re: [OSM-talk] Diary spam

2010-09-16 Per discussione Toby Murray
Hmm a timeshare could be an interesting way to get out and map new cities! :) On Sep 16, 2010 5:24 AM, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:30:28 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 September ... I've had spam added as comments - one is still

Re: [OSM-talk] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-26 Per discussione Toby Murray
Yeah, being in tornado alley the word culvert is frequently used in tornado safety instructions as a last resort shelter if you encounter a tornado on the open road. For example: http://www.srh.noaa.gov/oun/?n=safety-severe-roadsafety Toby On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Tim McNamara

Re: [Talk-us] Meetups around the US

2010-08-25 Per discussione Toby Murray
Bah! All you city slickers. I'm a 2 hour drive from any semblance of an urban area (Kansas City). I suppose if there were regular meetups I would probably make an effort to make it to at least some of them. Other than that, Denver is probably the nearest city but it is 8 hours away. Guess I need

Re: [Talk-us] What would you want done with TIGER 2010?

2010-08-23 Per discussione Toby Murray
I have been curious about this as well. In my opinion it would be great to be able to update untouched TIGER ways with the new data. I agree that this would likely have to be a county-by-county decision. Could there be a tool like OWL but that would allow looking at a whole county at a time to

Re: [OSM-talk] iPad app

2010-08-21 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 11:09 AM, bernhard zwischenbrugger b...@datenkueche.com wrote: The userinterface for Android and iPad/iPhone can't be the same. Android does not support multitouch. My Samsung Galaxy S strongly disagrees with this statement :) Some early android devices didn't do

Re: [OSM-talk] iPad app

2010-08-20 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 2:12 PM, bernhard zwischenbrugger b...@datenkueche.com wrote: But editing with a touchscreen is not easy. How to set a point using a finger? If you put the finger to the screen, you don't see where the point is set. The finger covers the point and it can't be exact.

Re: [OSM-talk] A GPS Trace Visualizer

2010-08-18 Per discussione Toby Murray
Interesting. In the past I've just used JOSM to download all the GPS traces in my area and then taken a screen shot. Since I have been the only person in a 100 mile radius contributing to OSM, I could just use that to say these are all my traces but now there is finally another mapper in the area

Re: [OSM-talk] A GPS Trace Visualizer

2010-08-18 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:25 AM, davespod osmli...@dellams.fastmail.fm wrote: Even average speed for routing purposes would be difficult to determine. How would you differentiate between car, motorcycle, bicycle, unicycle, horse or shank's pony*? I personally tag all my trace uploads with

[OSM-talk] Mapnik render queue stuck

2010-08-18 Per discussione Toby Murray
I uploaded a new stretch of river bank last night (over 3k objects). This morning I checked the map and they had not been rendered. When I check /status on the tiles they claim that they are due to be rendered but they are obviously not actually in the render queue because the queue has hit 0 on

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik render queue stuck

2010-08-18 Per discussione Toby Murray
: Am 18.08.2010 18:04, Toby Murray: I uploaded a new stretch of river bank last night (over 3k objects). This morning I checked the map and they had not been rendered.  (...) Here is a link to the area where you can still see just the river itself with no river banks rendered and all

Re: [OSM-talk] A GPS Trace Visualizer

2010-08-18 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Toby Murray wrote: I personally tag all my trace uploads with mode of transportation (bicycle, car, walking) as well as the make and model of the GPS unit (garmin, edge 305) but yeah that probably can't

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik render queue stuck

2010-08-18 Per discussione Toby Murray
Yeah, it definitely doesn't happen all the time. I would say most of my edits work fine and cause a render as anticipated. But there is some set of circumstances that causes something to hiccup. If I see it again I will not touch it and file a bug instead of posting to the mailing list where

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC: what are empty nodes and how should we use them?

2010-08-15 Per discussione Toby Murray
Yeah, I would tend to agree that empty nodes should be regarded as errors. That is how I spotted a problematic changeset the other day that really needed reverting. I know OSM emphasizes distributed tagging/usage but an empty node has absolutely no value to anyone except (maybe) the person who

Re: [OSM-talk] Legal discussion on talk@

2010-08-13 Per discussione Toby Murray
Every person on talk who wants to discuss the legal nuances of OSM licensing belongs on legal-talk. I have my license preferences and opinions but at the end of the day I will probably continue to contribute to OSM whether ODbL happens, CC remains or the whole thing goes to PD. It isn't

[OSM-talk] Replication stopped

2010-08-12 Per discussione Toby Murray
I was just trying to figure out why a lake I traced last night hadn't been rendered yet. After double checking tagging, relationing, etc I finally looked at munin[1] and noticed that yevaud stopped getting diffs almost 10 hours ago. Also, looking at the OWL status page[2], it isn't getting diffs

Re: [OSM-talk] Replication stopped

2010-08-12 Per discussione Toby Murray
shalab...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure whats wrong but a couple of streams I mapped 4-5 hours ago are not rendering as yet. Shalabh On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: I was just trying to figure out why a lake I traced last night hadn't been rendered yet

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