Just a heads up; this user seems to be adding some fantasy and/or proposed
roads in with legit edits, mostly in central Georgia. I caught the most
egregious thing (the unbuilt Eisenhower Parkway Extension) but there may be
others that need cleaning up as well. Doesn't seem malicious at least, so
ho
tory
- "lanes" disappears between revisions 13 and 14. You submitted revision 14.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/201133287/history
- "lanes" disappears between revisions 3 and 4. You submitted revision 4.
I could go on...
Chris
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On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 3:54 AM Paul Johnson wrote:
> I'm going to have to additionally request this revert due to a fairly
> substantial loss of data that was involved after I spent a good 12-15 hours
> on detail lane tagging this expressway. It appears many ways got merged
> and data was lost a
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 3:37 AM Paul Johnson wrote:
> This is regarding WA 500 in Vancouver, Washington. This is a surface
> expressway that will be later upgraded to a motorway, but currently has a
> mix of surface intersections and ramp style interchanges. It appears there
> is a small but voc
I've been working on a long-term project off-and-on to build a
specialized OpenStreetMap editor for connected windshield or
pedestrian surveying (which occasionally shows up in OSM changesets as
edits from "HandOSMFix"); in the course of rewriting it to be
client-side JavaScript as much as possible
Bear in mind that motorway_junction nodes also (often/should) have a
ref tag marking the exit/junction number, and there's no specific
tagging for motorway_links that carries that info.
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Of course there's also Bing but it's not always as up-to-date as NAIP.
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On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Phil! Gold wrote:
> If it helps, OSM-US hosts a tile proxy for the USGS-hosted NAIP imagery.
> It's documented on the US Imagery page:
>
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Servers/Imagery
>
> The best layer to use is p
traffic laws in
most, if not all, countries, so explicit tagging seems likely just to
bloat the OSM database with redundant information.
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On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Martijn van Exel
wrote:
> Looking at the wiki for destination=, particularly the examples here
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:destination#Examples - it would
> be interesting to add control cities to the main motorway ways - has
> anyone already done this
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Clifford Snow wrote:
> Routing doesn't need names, it just needs connected ways and a means to
> display the route. I agree that without names, it is difficult to give
> written directions. But how often do we need written directions any more?
> Don't most people u
w all highway:unbuilt=motorway (or
> whatever.) i left them in so they didn't get put back in using
> inappropriate tagging.
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A few options I have experience with:
- The AMOD AGL3080 is pretty bare-bones, but it works well and interfaces
easily with a computer even without any special software (basically, it
works like a flash drive; the files are stored in NMEA format, which you
can convert to OSM's GPX format with gpsb
.
We'd also need to make the validation tools smarter to recognize lossage
(for example, realizing that the route is unbroken only if the chain of
role tags once you account for the directions of the underlying ways is
monotonic),
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ine them to one per state unless we're doing that to match up
with Wikipedia articles.
As for symbol tags, I'd vote to transition them to the wiki:symbol
namespace if possible.
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On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Brad Neuhauser wrote:
> From
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_System#Primary_.28one-_and_two-digit.29_routes_.28contiguous_U.S..29:
>
> "In the numbering scheme, east-west highways are assigned even numbers and
> north-south highways are assigned o
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Jay Boyer wrote:
> I have been looking at the OSM data for Las Vegas and there are some
> serious problems for it. The OSM boundary for Las Vegas encompasses about
> half of the city. Certain areas of Las Vegas, including Paradise,
> Enterprise, Spring Valley an
bly want directional relations anyway,
since directional heuristics based on geography aren't always right in
terms of the signed/"logical" route direction.)
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GDOT installations seem to be using real banners for bannered
routes, either due to FHWA pressure or simply because the in-shield banners
are basically unreadable at highway speeds. I haven't seen any on guide
signs yet but examples on reassurance markers are popping up fairly
regularly.
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
> That would mean most freeways including interstates in the west, with the
> exception of limited sections in the bay area, southwestern California,
> central Portland and urban Seattle wouldn't be motorways, as restricting
> pedestrians and bi
ng it would
enjoy a long conversation with some friendly military police officers.
Someone (no idea who) upgraded it to freeway.
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spurs/loops/connectors, and the various Texas FM/RM/Loop/Spur/etc.)
like the US route one does(?).
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On Feb 21, 2013 1:19 AM, "James Mast" wrote:
>
> The user who added the interchange has no GPS traces listed for his
account.
They could have been using someone else's traces in JOSM/Potlatch - you'd
have to load everyone's traces (GPX layer in JOSM) to be sure.
You also would need to check the
various tags; I haven't used
Potlatch in years so no idea what needs to be done there, but probably
something similar) and maybe some automated system for detecting the
inevitable duplicates that will crop up. Then maybe we can deprecate
the way ref tag in the US
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Clay Smalley wrote:
> The "SR" and "SH" designations were mostly put in by NE2, IIRC. Go figure.
>
> I'm personally okay with this mass edit, but expect a lot of hate mail from
> NE2.
FWIW I did get a pair of emails from NE2 that says, in part, he would
"grudgingl
Without wading too deeply into the personalities here, there's a
danger inherent to having rules that you will have people who think
they're being very clever by trying to repeatedly bump up against them
in ways that may respect the letter of the rules but not their
underlying spirit. For example,
y US-designated highway with a
visible state designation, which would make the shields too big to
render. But this problem wouldn't affect most of the states where the
bare number and "SR" plague has set in.
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So far it's right on the shoreline; I'd expect more to be coming
online over the next few days.
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On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Michal Migurski wrote:
> I applied these changes to OSM last night, in a series of five changesets:
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13611326
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13612265
> http://www.openstreetm
on
transcribing from other maps (TxDOT's official state highway map, for
example, uses the same rectangular shield design for both route types;
the same [but hexagonal] deal with loops & spurs).
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Loop, etc.
http://elrond.aperiodic.net/shields/supported.html#US-TX gives a
pretty comprehensive list.
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My only concern with the scrubbing applies to bannered routes (routes
with the "modifier" tag); we've been going back and forth on the
proper tagging for seemingly years now, and while I think the proposed
scrubbing conforms with the original intent under the tagging scheme,
the generally agreed-up
maps.
The code is on github at https://github.com/lordsutch/osm-makeroads.
It requires R, gpsbabel, and a few R packages (all are on CRAN, some
are packaged for Debian, some aren't). So far it's only tested in
Linux but the code should run on OS X
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:52 AM, the Old Topo Depot
wrote:
> I'm asking everyone performing clean-up/review on the US Interstates to
> please take a few extra minutes and update the pages at
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:JohnANovak/Interstates
> andhttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Us
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=33.9958&lon=-81.1074&zoom=13&layers=M
I've fixed up I-20 between the Columbia River and US 21; looks like
the damage goes both west and east from there at least to US 1 (west)
and I-77 (east) but I've got
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Mike N wrote:
> As part of the review and cleanup after the redaction bot, I am planning to
> go through and review state routes and create relations for them.
>
> There's been much good work in developing the Shields rendering scheme,
> and I would like to prepar
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> Imagic is trying to enforce conflating junction=roundabout with the "modern
> roundabout", when it formerly included other traffic circles and rotaries.
> This means the wiki does not agree with existing tags on many circles.
> Instead of
ISTM this might be a good "mechanical turk" application if there is
genuine concern that there will be a substantial error rate (my
point-of-view as a social scientist is that a hypothesized 1/1000
error rate is pretty darn low, but I can appreciate that some might
have more exacting standards), ei
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Alexander Jones wrote:
> The city boundaries near San Antonio probably have to be reimported. It's a
> nightmare to work with, and I don't have the requisite multipolygon
> experience to do such a major task.
The TX boundaries in general are a mess... it was my fir
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> I think it's clear from this discussion that we *don't* have any consensus
> on how best to tag relations for bannered routes.
... yet. Hence why it's important to have the discussion.
After more thought, in the general case, deprecatin
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> On 4/4/2012 2:43 PM, Chris Lawrence wrote:
>>
>> Renderers can fallback to the longest
>> left-anchored substring they understand for weird things they don't
>> understand.
>
>
> Bad idea. Go
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Phil! Gold wrote:
> * Craig Hinners [2012-04-04 09:14 -0700]:
>> One of many examples: Maryland uses a unique green-on-white shield for
>> US Business routes, but those roads still get tagged as
>> "network=US:US:Business", not "network=US:US:Business:MD" or somesu
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Phil! Gold wrote:
> * Chris Lawrence [2012-04-03 10:21 -0400]:
>> - Secondaries (network US:VA:secondary) don't seem to be rendering at
>> all, and the fallback shields aren't showing up even where there are
>> ref tags (just
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Phil! Gold wrote:
> Here's something that might be a diversion while you wait for the database
> to allow editing again.
>
> Richard Weait and I have been working on a rendering that uses route
> relations to make individual shields that reflect what each state uses
ans, by analogy with "managed HOV"
lanes like those on I-635 in Dallas where you're only allowed to
enter/exit the HOV at designated points even though there is no
physical barrier and it's all one giant expanse of pavement.
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. Alternatively it probably wouldn't be terribly hard for
someone whose Java is decent to code a JOSM plugin for these sorts of
tasks (another example: a "should this way be realigned to TIGER
2011?" task).
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ng over perceived pedestrian-friendliness.
Or if you want to be really "objective" you could also try to merge in
AADT data for Hamilton County from TDOT/MPO and factor that in as a
penalty for ped routing.
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udge by) seem to be missing a lot of
ways, suggesting some sort of problem with the overall data that was
segmented in that run.
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On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
> One should hope the software can figure that out based on the overall
> orientation of the relation. I'm in the forward/backward crowd myself,
> as it works well for routes that are only sometimes divided. For routes
> that are always divide
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Richard Weait wrote:
> I'm doing a little work on shield rendering for Interstate and US
> Route shields, etc.
>
> Who has a favourite highway overlap? I'd like a few examples of each
> of the following.
> - two Interstates overlapping on a way
> - three Interstate
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 12:32 AM, Nathan Mills wrote:
> Would I be correct in stating that tagging an undivided 2 lane (one lane in
> each direction) highways would be improper, even if a state calls the
> highway a "trunk" for planning purposes?
No, you wouldn't. Trunk is the proper classificat
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Ian Dees wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Christopher Covington wrote:
>>
>> >From the wiki,
>>
>> "Parking spaces along streets are currently not tagged. Only parking
>> lots of reasonable size are mapped, not every place where a car could be
>> parked
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Ian Dees wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Spencer Riddile
> wrote:
>>
>> If someone wanted to upload public domain, state road centerline data to
>> OSM, what procedures could they take? It seems like what we would like to
>> do is overwrite Tiger data b
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Stellan Lagerstrom
wrote:
> Since the roads are so concentrated along the coast, it seems fairly
> simple to load a few hundred ways at a time into an editor to shift them.
> Not more than a few hours work, surely.
>
> Lanai seems to suffer from the same error, so
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Mike N. wrote:
> Just a thought - the 2009 census survey included workers going to every
> dwelling with a GPS to confirm type of occupancy. If (*big if*) they
> release the GPS coordinates plus street address, this is likely to be much
> more accurate than Tig
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:28 AM, Kevin wrote:
> I thought I'd bring this to the list before I got too far along. I'd
> like to class or reclass all the roads in Georgia according to the
> Highway Functional Classification System
> (http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/fctoc.htm). My source informatio
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Chris Hunter wrote:
> Looks like the 2008 data for my area (TN) just got uploaded about 5 hours
> ago if I did the time conversion right.
That was just the place boundaries data, which didn't exist in OSM
until this upload. Updating the TIGER street data and addi
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Stephen Johnson wrote:
> Some of the TIGER ways and nodes for Interstates in my area are way out of
> alignment. They are all over the map if you'll forgive the pun. I have
> several GPS tracks for most of the Interstate lanes.
>
> My question is what should I ali
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:17 PM,
mike.oni...@juno.com wrote:
> Simple question: Should I delete gate nodes at the entrance to gated
> communities, or can we agree on a set of tags that will let routing services
> know a gate is operable, and is reasonably likely to be passable?
I think the correc
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Theodore Book wrote:
> Sorry to be slow in responding, but does your message mean that you
> already have scripts to convert the Tiger shapefile data to OSM format?
> If you do, it would be great to get a copy of them.
Yep, they're at http://www.lordsutch.com/osm
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Lars Ahlzen wrote:
> I've been working on a topographic map based on OSM data, somewhat
> similar in style to the National Geographic topo maps. It's very much
> work in progress, but I thought someone here might be interested.
> Feedback is welcome!
Hey, Lars! T
Is there a good reason why my TIGER place bulk uploads keep getting
blocked with 403s? I'll gladly add further backoffs and more reuse of
existing changesets (currently I've set the uploader to chunks of 250
elements and changesets of 20 uploads, essentially limiting each
changeset to 5000 element
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Alan Brown wrote:
> This might not be the right group to direct this technical question - but
> I'll put it out there anyhow.
>
> I noticed a little while ago that city polygons where added to the OSM
> database (at least in the SF Bay Area) - and that's a good thi
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 14:07 -0400, Rev. Theodore Book wrote:
>> I just took a peak at the data, and noticed that it doesn't have any
>> information on road category - how did you do that on the main import
>> - simply by the name of the road?
>
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote:
> A few weeks after DaveHansen imported the TIGER data for Ohio [1],
> RSatterf reimported the data for Greene County, Ohio [2]. As a result,
> every single way in the county is duplicated. On top of that, RSatterf's
> import also added a "loose"
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
>> what is the best solution for another problem I have seen.
>> navigation systems should use the name/ref on the signs. the names are
>> never (rarely?) used for interstate and us routes. but commonly used
>> for county routes ( there the names
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Chris Lawrence wrote:
>>
>> Speaking of polyshp2osm.py, here's a link to the version I modified
>> for the TIGER place boundary data.
>
> (Oops, hit "send" too so
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Ian Dees wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Chris Lawrence wrote:
>>
>> Also included is my script that merges duplicated nodes in the
>> shapefile, which are common along shared boundaries. It's not quite
>> as good a solu
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Ian Dees wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
>>
>> Do any tools exist for importing data from the National Hydrography
>> Dataset? It'd be nice to have creeks/rivers/lakes in OSM instead of
>> blank spaces, especially when I generate maps
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Ian Dees wrote:
> I saved some of the imports, but in my experience almost all of the borders
> have been modified or deleted already enough to make the saved data
> unusable.
>
> (I feel really bad about that... I should have asked for it to be deleted a
> long t
I've been playing with some of the routing engines for OSM
(YOURS/Gosmore, Navit) to try to make sure all the TIGER cleanups I've
been doing around Laredo* are working correctly, and I've stumbled
across a bit of a puzzler.
Part of my work has been to add bridges (flyovers, overpasses etc.)
where
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Spencer Riddile
wrote:
> What would the advantage/disadvantage be of using a different network name
> ("usbrs" vs. "ncn") for U.S. bike routes. The author of open cycle map
> would have to adjust their symbolization if we started using "usbrs". Is it
> good to t
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Spencer Riddile
wrote:
> I'm working on tagging Bike Route 76 in the Montgomery County, VA area. Is
> anyone else working on tagging national bike routes in the U.S.?
>
> Here is the combination of tags I'm using:
>
> type=route
> route=bicycle
> network=ncn
> ref=
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Theodore Book wrote:
> Despite my taking a "local" approach, I do think it would be great if we
> could do a coordinated national upload of the NHD data, however.
I think it would definitely help make the US OpenStreetMap look more
professional to get as much of t
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Zeke Farwell wrote:
> Two examples of where I have used Trunk are US 4 and US 7 near Rutland, VT:
> http://openstreetmap.com/?lat=43.538&lon=-73.084&zoom=11&layers=B000FFF
>
> Route 7 south of Rutland is sometimes divided, sometimes not. It has
> interchanges, but
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
> have started to play a bit with route relations as proposed in
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_roads_tagging
>
> relations are really great especially when using JOSM.
> But without documentation what has been done alr
One issue here is that while U.S. law does say that facts aren't
copyrightable (I believe the original case dealt with copying of names
and numbers from phone directories), that does not mean that every
jurisdiction in the world agrees (notably, I am pretty sure that
Britain's courts ruled differen
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Chris Lawrence wrote:
> - ref is reserved for backward compatibility and should follow
> Key:ref's semantics. "number" is used for the bare route identifier
> (e.g. US 7 -> number=7; I-35W -> number=35W) as in Alan's sugges
I have put up a short table with the proposed tagging scheme in the
OSM wiki. I made a few minor changes from Zeke's practice and Alan's
suggestions:
- ref is reserved for backward compatibility and should follow
Key:ref's semantics. "number" is used for the bare route identifier
(e.g. US 7 -> n
Certainly relations would seem to be the way to go with route marking;
we probably should put together something on the wiki that can be
worked on collaboratively, with Alan's proposal as a start. There are
some areas to be fleshed out (primary & secondary state routes in
states like TN and MO; th
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Ian Dees wrote:
> Huzzah! Let's blast away all of the US and start the upload! :-)
>
> http://www.census.gov/geo/www/tiger/tgrshp2008/tgrshp2008.html
LOL.I am looking forward to taking a look at the data to see if
it's an improvement for my part of Texas & to
I think the place to start in the US (and I'd assume Canada too, which
tends to use US-originating classification) is the idea of "functional
classification" which is used by highway planners. See e.g.
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/flex/ch03.htm and
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/fctoc.htm
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Russ Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Should the trail have its own way which shares the bulk of its nodes
> and path with the railroad way? Or should the railroad and highway
> portions of the trail be marked with ... something? And how to carry
> the name of
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You can run it like this:
>
> perl tiger-shp-to-osm.pl
> data/ftp2.census.gov/geo/tiger/TIGER2007FE/41_OREGON/41055_Sherman/fe_2007_41055_edges.zip
> > out-dave.osm
>
> Don't count on any more tarball releases. I think I'
The existing data in OSM (imported from TIGER) for Webb County, Texas
is really, really awful - if you want to see for yourself, visit
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=27.553&lon=-99.476&zoom=12&layers=B00FTF.
Centerlines of streets are off by dozens of meters, bits and pieces
of streets are miss
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