On 9/29/2017 9:59 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
On 9/29/2017 8:31 PM, Max Erickson wrote:
Yeah, a Google search for "Mill Creek Church nashville" has
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nashvillearchives/millcreek.html
as an early result. It says the church buildin
question to
a Facebook group that discusses local history, and see if anyone can
tell me if there was ever a church there.
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hate; only love can do that." -- D
There are no signs indicating that any congregation meets there; the
warehouse appears to be in active commercial use. Should I remove this
node? -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive
out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only
love
I don't know about Detroit, but in Nashville, TN, where I live, street
suffixes don't necessarily reflect their importance. My parents lived for
decades on Parthenon Avenue, a very minor residential street.
On August 16, 2017 10:08:44 AM "Ionut Radu - (p)" wrote:
Hi all,
I was looking over
The "mechanical Turk" term is not an ethnic slur, but instead an allusion
to a famous 18th-century chess-playing automaton, made to resemble the
upper body of a man in traditional Turkish clothing, mounted on a cabinet.
It was eventually revealed to be a fake automaton, operated by a man hidden
n opposite directions may try
to use it simultaneously, resulting in a head-on collision.
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On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 6:18 AM Horea Meleg wrote:
Hello all,
Me and my Telenav colleagues are editing lane numbers in Detroit area. We found
some cases that looks
One thing that is an issue with many of the marked bike lanes in
Nashville, TN is that they aren't contiguous. You will come to a point
where the road narrows, such as for a bridge, and the bikes are forced
to share a lane with motor traffic. This makes bike riding at rush hour
a risky activi
Note that "usually state lines" isn't the same thing as "always state
lines". The Central Time Zone/Eastern Time Zone boundary runs through
the middle of both Tennessee and Kentucky, and the lines aren't
straight. They zig-zag according to which time zone the local
politicians wanted.
On 05
tion I might not even stop walking).
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> Simon
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> Am 14.04.2015 um 01:32 schrieb John F. Eldredge:
> > That depends, in part, on how long you want to stand there pecking
> away
> > at your device, and how suspicious folks are likely to become if you
> > stand in fro
gt; > and find the number.
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azing where people put
> addresses. Commercial buildings can be the worst case to try and find
> the
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ot;manageable." My turn to
> ask: How much of these problems are OUR FAULT? The obvious answer
> is "every last bit." We need to educate people, train them and be
> vigilant. We do all of these things, but if we still have problems
> (we do, but they do not threaten to make the project unworkable) we
> simply must do bet
he net result can be used in OSM globally
> with no expectation of problems. BTW you live in the country of
> software
> patents which -is- essentially patenting math.
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> Alas I suspect you are kidding yourself in a big way.
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I will have to look into the details to say for sure.
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"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot
drive out hate; only love can do that." Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
On March 17, 2015 4:29:34 PM Paul John
se to keep partial
autonomy. Growth of Nashville means that only road signs show that you have
crossed over into these municipalities, but they maintain their own police
forces.
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to
the general public, plus dump stations open to their members, while not
showing dump stations open only to members of competing organizations?
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addr:flats works if you are talking about flats, but doesn't fit other
scenarios, such as suites in an office building.
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Sounds like a good idea to me.
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By contrast, I am not aware of any Interstate highways in the southeast USA
that allow bicycles. From my experience, every entrance ramp has signs
forbidding non-motorized traffic and mopeds.
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"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do
ve put the
with-suffix name in the name= tag and the unsuffixed one in the
short_name= tag, but I'm wondering if I should continue to bother.
-jack
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Typos courtesy of fancy auto-spell technology.
An additional complication is ring-roads, which are likely to have XXX
North transit
Rate-limiting sounds like a good idea.
On November 14, 2014 9:56:55 AM CST, Richard Welty
wrote:
> On 11/14/14 10:34 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
> > Could someone who knows Chinese check the content of the diary
> entries?
> >
> > By the way, I assume you mea
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"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that.
Hate cannot d
A given Zip Code can potentially be in more than one US state, since they are
based on delivery routes.
On November 6, 2014 10:32:19 PM CST, "Shawn K. Quinn"
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>On Fri, 2014-11-07 at 04:17 +, Elliott Plack wrote:
>> Before the state showed up in iD, I had assumed someone could just
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> >> or this: http://binged.it/1j0zEud
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> >> in case of doubt I'd put unclassified ;-)
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Yes, but one "postal city" commonly contains multiple "postal codes", so
storing the postal city in the postal code tag represents a loss of detail.
On J,une 26, 2014 2:33:12 PM CDT, Richard Welty wrote:
> On 6/26/14 3:20 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
> > Postal co
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"Darkness
x27;s
> still a sidewalk, though, and not a "way" of its own.
>
> There is not a wonderful solution for how do map pedestrian routing
> when it differs from road-associated routing.
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The definitions vary widely, state by state. In Virginia, a town or village
may have its own local government, but is subordinate to the government of
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However, in common usage, supermarket refers to a store where the majority of
merchandise sold is food. The big-box stores typically sell some food, but the
majority of the merchandise is not food.
terstate highways are referred to as East/West/North/South according to
the direction a particular side of the highway is going, so that I-40 W and
I-40 E are opposing sides of a divided highway. You also have compass-point
letters used to distinguish betwee
value such as railway=inactive for routes that are
not in use, but still have the rails in place. The only problem is
that, if someone erroneously tags an active but little-used route as
inactive, this could lead to an accident if someone went hiking or
rail-biking on the route.
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to me, will be determining the downward angle at which the
photos were taken, so as to calculate the perspective.
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er" photo than the "before" in
> my
> > mapping. I create them by default when dual carriageways intersect.
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> > +1 you're doing the right thing.
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Sorry, that was supposed to say "imagining", not "imaging".
"John F. Eldredge" wrote:
> Does anyone else besides me keep imaging Pavel Chekov (from
> original-series Star Trek) announcing "shields are up" with a heavy
> Russian accent?
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a quick Internet search. Are there Smartphone apps that can do this
> with the help of their accelerometer? Some other type of hardware?
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to another, or the pavement quality changes -- some cities
> repave one whole subdivision at a time.
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re likely to get four answers. Capturing that diversity would
> produce a far more useful neighborhood guide than just importing
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he people that live there, would that be feasible?
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I agree with you.
Richard Welty wrote:
>On 6/7/13 8:44 PM, Nathan Mills wrote:
>> If we're going for accuracy, corridor proposals should be mapped as a
>polygon. They are area features which may someday become linear.
>>
>> That said, I don't think that such early proposals belong in the
>databa
Any source should be double-checked in person, if possible. Even aerial
photography may be out of date. I once did research into the history of the
neighborhood where my parents were living, and found that for the first twenty
years or so after the neighborhood was developed, the city street m
One thing that would help in the editor software would be, once you select a
tag, and list the preset values available, to have the option to list the wiki
descriptions of what those values mean. This should be optional, and should
come up in a separate window so you don't lose track of what yo
r one cares about counties or boroughs, but such deferring is in
> my view a feature.
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are not treed, for example, parts
> that are above treeline." The parts that are still "in" the forest
> are still "in" the forest (which is what landuse=forest implies),
> even if they are above the treeline and don't have trees. Yes, it
> seems confusin
hat the
mapping was a cover story, and you were really preparing for an attack on the
airport.
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The amenity=theatre tag would apply to some venues, but not all. In Nashville,
TN, USA, where I live, a lot of restaurants and bars have live music on at
least some evenings during the week.
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g the legal meaning of the
markings on the person who writes the routing software, and who may not even
live in the country in question. I think the combination of a local mapper,
and, if necessary, checking with the government department regulating such
matters, as was done in this case, is b
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I agree with both the comment about the turn restrictions and the comment about
NE2 having committed vandalism.
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an import myself. Regardless of who
> actually
> does it, I think getting a lot of eyes on the data is the best
> starting
> point for whatever happens next.
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> Jason.
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Did they switch from one term to the other at some point? If so, the mix of
signs on the same route might be because some of the signs have been replaced
as they rusted out and/
onfusion, some of the streets that were joined together to
complete the ring kept their original names, meaning that the name changes
every two or three miles.
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Incidentally, the boundary between two political entities is spelled "border".
A "boarder" is someone who lives in a boarding-house (where meals are included
along with lodging).
What is an "emergency Interstate"? I don't think I have ever heard that phrase
before. Is it a detour to be used while the Interstate highway is under repair?
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aginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=historic
>
In Nashville, Tennessee, many local-government offices are located in a former
high school. It has been fifty years or so since it stopped being a school,
yet the standard name for it is the "Howard School Complex".
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do a batch global
> update?
>
This has been discussed, and tried, before. Unfortunately, some abbreviations
can stand for more than one thing, and it takes local knowledge to be sure what
is the right choice.
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the ability to create ways. Many cell phone mapping apps have
this limitation.
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andrzej zaborowski wrote:
> On 14 April 2012 03:30, John F. Eldredge wrote:
> > One drawback to this new-coordinate technique is that, in some
> cases, the tainted nodes will have been in the proper locations to
> match the real world. So, in order to make the cleanup bot not
ordinate technique is that, in some cases, the
tainted nodes will have been in the proper locations to match the real world.
So, in order to make the cleanup bot not consider the nodes to be tainted, we
have to knowingly make the map data less accurate than it had formerly been.
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You just answered your own question. The business routes are part of the main
U.S. highway network, rather than making up a separate "U.S. Highway Business"
network.
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but there would need to be provision for taking a name back off
of the blacklist, if the person in question can persuade the administrator that
the actual spammer was forging an innocent person's email address.
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ame tag, but instead as an address
>
> tag (I've used addr:direction e.g.
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/140789671).
>
Does he mean that people don't use the prefix at all when referring to the
street, or does he mean that people use the abbreviated form of the pref
adial roads generally date back to when this was farmland. As a
result, you sometimes have to drive a couple of miles in order to reach a
destination only a few hundred feet from your starting point. Some of these
dead-end roads have turning circles at their end, some don't. As far as I
know,
license change, get every
>
> street in LA cleaned by April Fools without losing any correct
> information.
>
So, you are implying that nothing further can be done after April 1st? If the
remapping can't be completed by then, OSM is doomed? I agree that you are
being overly
en Google Maps.
I found a case in Google Maps the other day where, if you searched for a
certain street address, it would point you to a location that was on the
correct street, but a couple of miles from the correct location.
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they look like + Bing is sufficient if the road
> markings are actually there (not only the lane separator linear
> markings - that's too ambiguous). What I'm not sure of is whether bike
> lane road markings are the same across the US (ie a stylized bicycle +
> rider with an arrow poin
cases
>
> before we start the process of minimizing damage.
>
> > Policies should be discussed on legal-talk.
> Why? They have nothing to do with legal considerations.
>
Legal cosiderations may be part of why a policy is chosen, although there may
well be other consider
s at any point, I would
not classify the markings as a median, but only as a lane separator.
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et is dangerous because
narrow traffic lanes and a lack of shoulders puts you very close to traffic.
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This idea, of tagging address ranges within blocks, sounds like a good idea to
me. Some cities, such as Louisville, KY, put address ranges on street signs,
which would make gathering such information easy in those cities.
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bandoned railway, might
reflect the roadbed having already been put to other uses at the time the TIGER
data was collated.
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Anthony wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 9:40 AM, John F. Eldredge
> wrote:
> > The access=emergency tag is documented in the wiki as meaning that
> access is permitted for emergency vehicles, and would seem to ideally
> fit this situation.
>
> Where is it in the w
Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> On 10/8/2011 9:49 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
> > It sounds like the proposed causeway tag would be the best way to
> mark this section of road.
>
> What's wrong with embankment=yes?
>
That would also work, although causeway implies that the
events
> (and we've had quite a few in the last 4 months) the northbound lane
> is
> out of the water by a foot or less..but then if you're even
> slightly
> familiar with imagery/photography you can see it's not.
>
It sounds like the proposed causewa
ergency tag is documented in the wiki as meaning that access is
permitted for emergency vehicles, and would seem to ideally fit this situation.
Admittedly, it is documented only if you search for the word "emergency",
rather than on the page for the access tag.
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> I've been tagging them as "highway=service ; access=official".
> >
> > I was wondering if I was using the correct "access" tag so that
> routers
> > wouldn't route you onto them by accident.
> >
> > -- James
Now I understand what is being r
ay other than those applying
to adjacent sections of roadway, and thus no reason to for a router to avoid
the crossover. Use the layer tag on both ways to indicate that it isn't a
grade-level intersection.
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"Dead End" sign is out of date. In one case I know of, here in
Nashville, TN, a pair of formerly dead-end streets were connected together to
make a through street. The city promptly took down one of the "Dead End"
signs, but left the other one in place for over a decade b
ah, making sure OSM is clean is always a good idea :-)
I would put the blame on the driver. What is physically present trumps what a
map or GPS shows, every time.
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u don't.
Use the surface tag. Using multiple tags to describe a way, instead of simply
the highway tag, lets you describe more details. In turn, renderers should
look at more than just the highway tag.
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the highway, etc. This usually reflects their having been
upgraded one piece at a time. Sections that pass through difficult terrain are
often the last to be upgraded. Of course, whether or not a local politician
has friends or relatives in the road-construction business makes a differen
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