Re: [Talk-us] Moving historic railroad ways from OSM to OpenHistoricalMap

2015-04-02 Thread Richard Welty
On 4/2/15 4:27 PM, Paul Norman wrote: > On 3/29/2015 5:00 AM, Mark Bradley wrote: >> Can I export these ways from OSM and then import them into OHM? > The main technical problem with moving data from one OSM API to > another (e.g. OSM to OHM, OSM to dev server, OSM to OpenGeoFiction) is > making su

Re: [Talk-us] Moving historic railroad ways from OSM to OpenHistoricalMap

2015-04-01 Thread Richard Welty
On 4/1/15 3:14 AM, Mike Dupont wrote: > Here in Kansas we have very many abandoned railways (and many pickup > trucks to replace them) that are turned into trails or paved over and > still visible. I would say if there is any sign of them left to keep > the information in some way. > this is a circ

Re: [Talk-us] USA Rail: Calling all OSM railfans! (especially in California)

2015-03-31 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/31/15 4:58 PM, Paul Norman wrote: > On 3/31/2015 11:02 AM, stevea wrote: >> Part of the reason I do this is because other places you might >> "discover" these data (subdivision names) are maps published by the >> rail corporations. But, be careful. For example, I have found that >> when I go

Re: [Talk-us] Elevation in local units

2015-03-25 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/25/15 1:43 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > > * I feel that osm convention should encourage all mappers to specify > units (e.g. 22 m). > * That whitespace should be allowed (e.g. 22m, 22 m, or even 22 meters). > * And that local units should be encouraged (e.g. 22 feet, or 22' 0"). > > Th

Re: [Talk-us] Boundaries and verifiability (was Re: Retagging hamlets in the US)

2015-03-24 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/24/15 6:01 PM, Jack Burke wrote: > I would politely disagree that TIGER is an authoritative source for two > reasons: > > 1) The extensive TIGER cleanup that is still being done years after the last > import, and well, if that data were removed and sourced externally, the problems with TIGER

[Talk-us] mappy hour link

2015-03-23 Thread Richard Welty
this should be it: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/event/cnsbqt4rtjjcekl2hcgc53josj0 -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS & IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [Talk-us] Mappy Hour tomorrow (monday) night

2015-03-23 Thread Richard Welty
here is an event link which i hope works ok: https://plus.google.com/b/113331273824393211883/events/cnsbqt4rtjjcekl2hcgc53josj0?authkey=COK7xau86urZ6gE i may need to send invitations to people on a case by case basis; if you have a g+ account but can't get access, send me an email and i'll try to

Re: [Talk-us] Mappy Hour tomorrow (monday) night

2015-03-23 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/23/15 8:32 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > I may need access to the US chapter page to do it without screwing > over who's gonna be running it from recording. > i think only Martijn can add managers. i'll try wrestling with event interface again in a little bit. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net

Re: [Talk-us] Mappy Hour tomorrow (monday) night

2015-03-23 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/23/15 4:14 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > Should I make the G+ event for it or will that trip things up? > i was a little mystified by the current G+ interface so i didn't do so. if you can figure it out, more power to you. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS & IT Co

[Talk-us] Mappy Hour tomorrow (monday) night

2015-03-22 Thread Richard Welty
in the traditional 8:30pm ET slot - Martijn is traveling so i get to pick the time. i'll post a link here when i have it. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS & IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search signature.asc Desc

[Talk-us] GIS/SIG conference, Rochester NY, April 14th

2015-03-19 Thread Richard Welty
[my apologies for the original subject line, i realized i hadn't changed it right after i hit send. i'm resending with a better one to make sure that nobody who is potentially interested misses the announcement] On 3/19/15 3:47 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > i have been asked to pass th

[Talk-us] Fwd: RE: [GISNY-L] looking for historic aerial imagery with open licensing

2015-03-19 Thread Richard Welty
i have been asked to pass this along; the conference organizers are interested in increasing communication with the OpenStreetMap community and there is at least one presentation about OSM on the agenda. i'm told the conference schedule will be posted tomorrow. i have registered to attend, so ther

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-18 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/18/15 2:51 PM, Charlotte Wolter wrote: > Everyone, > > Aren't some of these "hamlets" still used as postal addresses? > In that sense, they still exist. > Also, in the West we have the phenomenon of old rail > infrastructure, such as watering stations, that were named. A good >

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-18 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/18/15 1:29 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 5:08 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > or maybe keep it as a historical place name, something like > place=locality and old_name="Bender's Corner"? I agree that this > is something loc

Re: [Talk-us] Mappy hour tomorrow!

2015-03-09 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/8/15 11:49 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Sorry you can't make it Jack. > > The direct hangout link is here - I > think: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/event/cpiqg6sldpjconoipvhmd3skhcc > Sorry, Google+ makes it really hard to just share a link to an event. > I still don't quite understan

Re: [Talk-us] The "to" way does not start or end at a "via" node.

2015-01-30 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/30/15 10:57 AM, Eric H. Christensen wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:52:23AM -0500, Richard Welty wrote: On 1/30/15 10:45 AM, Eric Christensen wrote: I'm having a problem that I can't seem to figure out. At Node 2899149410 (http://osm.org/go/ZZeAdq4EI--?m=) I get an error in

Re: [Talk-us] The "to" way does not start or end at a "via" node.

2015-01-30 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/30/15 10:45 AM, Eric Christensen wrote: I'm having a problem that I can't seem to figure out. At Node 2899149410 (http://osm.org/go/ZZeAdq4EI--?m=) I get an error in JOSM that says "The "to" way does not start or end at a "via" node.". This is breaking routing. I'm not sure how to fix th

Re: [Talk-us] Duplicate Ways (or portions of ways)

2015-01-27 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/27/15 11:33 AM, Dave Nesbitt wrote: Is there a standard way to identify and remove ways that are duplicates (or portions which are duplicates)? These are cases where 2 ways use the same set of nodes (or similar common subsets of the nodes) with very similar attribution. i'm not sure th

Re: [Talk-us] Race Tracks!

2015-01-16 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/13/15 9:08 AM, Richard Welty wrote: for tagging, i am mostly using ways with highway=raceway. if a direction is discernible (ovals are usually counter clockwise), i set oneway as well. I try to identify the bounding area for the facility and create a landuse=recreation_ground poly with

Re: [Talk-us] [Talk-us-newyork] fun with tagging: it's a raceway and an airstrip

2015-01-15 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/15/15 9:23 AM, Kevin Kenny wrote: I don't know. It's not unique - there are a number of private airports, closed military bases, and so on that do motorsports on the runways at certain times. it's a little different in that these other instances are of temporary racing circuits that pro

[Talk-us] fun with tagging: it's a raceway and an airstrip

2015-01-15 Thread Richard Welty
not sure how to tag this one. Inde Motorsports Ranch is near Willcox, AZ, a multi configuration road course complex, plus the straight away on the south edge of the complex doubles as a private airstrip: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/32.2282/-110.0084 haven't yet figured out how to tag t

[Talk-us] Race Tracks!

2015-01-13 Thread Richard Welty
[this message is essentially the same as my new diary entry, feel free to ignore both] i've started working on adding Auto Racing venues in the US & Canada to the map, and improving those that are already in the map. this exercise is in two parts; for those tracks that are still clearly visible

Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned Buildings in Baltimore

2015-01-12 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/12/15 4:27 PM, Elliott Plack wrote: I'm working with some other locals on another import, this time for Baltimore City. In thinking of good attributes to add to buildings, I thought it might be pertinent to denote the city's 16K+ vacant buildings [1] on the OSM buildings. Have other people

Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues

2015-01-12 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/12/15 2:00 PM, Elliott Plack wrote: This is an interesting conversation. Since I'm on the east coast, I've never seen a bicycle on a freeway. Since I'm a bit of a road geek, I ask this very question of my fellow road geeks on our discussion forum. It seems many states have explicit laws al

Re: [Talk-us] Should this be a dual carriageway?

2015-01-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/11/15 7:32 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: It definitely should be trunk. It's nowhere near motorway (no real median, 1 lane each way). It's way better than a regular US highway, in that it is limited access, with higher speeds. I see it's been retagged recently, and I concur. However, north of

Re: [Talk-us] CDP tagging

2015-01-09 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/9/15 2:32 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote: Taginfo currently shows over 2,000 instances of boundary=census, both for CDPs and for statistical boundaries in other countries. [1] I use boundary=census. If it weren't already in such wide use, I would've gone with the more generic-sounding boundary=s

Re: [Talk-us] CDP tagging

2015-01-08 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/8/15 9:43 PM, James Mast wrote: A user today just happened to change the 'Carnot-Moon' [1] ways [2] and relation boundary [3] from a 'boundary=administrative' 'admin_level=8' to 'boundary=census'. Is this the correct way we have been tagging stuff like this? I've pretty much stayed away fr

Re: [Talk-us] Should this be a dual carriageway?

2015-01-08 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/8/15 7:34 PM, Lars Ahlzen wrote: That's what I remember that section looking like last summer. Since there's no (real) median, my vote is for keeping it as a single way. Reclassifying it as trunk may be appropriate, though. i think trunk is the correct classification. richard -- rwe.

Re: [Talk-us] Should this be a dual carriageway?

2015-01-08 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/8/15 5:57 PM, Mike N wrote: On 1/8/2015 5:51 PM, Richard Welty wrote: i don't think this photo is relevant to the section that Chris is talking about; it's a different section of US 6. i think this road is in dire need of a ground survey. Oops - I forgot to mention that

Re: [Talk-us] Should this be a dual carriageway?

2015-01-08 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/8/15 5:41 PM, Mike N wrote: On 1/8/2015 3:13 PM, Zontine, Chris -(p) wrote: Thanks for the research. I will change the highway to trunk and leave as a single carriageway. I found this old photo http://www.bostonroads.com/roads/mid-cape/ , which seems to approximately match the recent Bi

Re: [Talk-us] Should this be a dual carriageway?

2015-01-08 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/8/15 1:03 PM, Zontine, Chris -(p) wrote: While mapping a FIXME in the US this situation came up: WAY ID 8822153. The FIXME implies this WAY (and others) should have a dual carriageway. As you can see this is one long stretch of highway=motorway. What is the thought on this? it looks l

Re: [Talk-us] access road routing - two real world cases

2015-01-01 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/1/15 6:00 PM, Harald Kliems wrote: I don't think that this is a tagging but a routing problem. It seems easy enough to me to program a router "do not use roads with access=private unless they are the first or last segment of a route" or something along those lines. well, it is an issue

Re: [Talk-us] Routing on Ferries

2015-01-01 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/1/15 1:55 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Natfoot > wrote: The inherent problem with ferry routes is that they have a schedule. Routers can't then tell their users how long it is going to take without that data. As far

[Talk-us] access road routing - two real world cases

2015-01-01 Thread Richard Welty
here are two real world cases that are on my mind: 1) access to the Biltmore estate, Asheville NC we were down in the area over Christmas, and toured the mansion on the 24th. we tried using the Skobbler app on my iPhone for routing, and got led seriously astray. the tagging needs to be improved,

Re: [Talk-us] Routing on Ferries

2015-01-01 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/1/15 12:13 PM, Harald Kliems wrote: Graphhopper doesn't have the problem. It could be that other routers are using outdated data that did indeed have a tagging problem. https://graphhopper.com/maps/?point=47.811656%2C-122.379627&point=47.809696%2C-122.528286&layer=Lyrk in the long run, w

Re: [Talk-us] Routing on Ferries

2014-12-31 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/1/15 1:39 AM, Clifford Snow wrote: A Scout note, http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/294192 complains of routing problems when a ferry is required. "A user of the OSM-based Scout app reported the following possible map error: "will not use ferry route. avoid ferry not checked. " Is that a p

Re: [Talk-us] Beaver dam? Wrecked bridge? Hallucinatory roads in TIGER?

2014-12-22 Thread Richard Welty
On 12/22/14 3:27 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I've frequently wanted to map "the trails that peter out" for exactly the reason you state. The choices as a mapper seem wrong: 1) Map the trail : thus encouraging use of a flawed route. 2) Don't map the trail. The casual map reader thinks OSM is missi

[Talk-us] old USGS imagery

2014-12-14 Thread Richard Welty
is the old B&W USGS imagery that used to be on the old terraserver site that later on moved to msrmaps still available online that anyone knows about? thanks, richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS & IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Appli

[Talk-us] mappy hour link

2014-12-01 Thread Richard Welty
google claims i can share this mappy hour link and it will actually work: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/event/c02nce7r59f8ca8if1p6834ae0c -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS & IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search

Re: [Talk-us] User randomly adding speed limits across the US

2014-12-01 Thread Richard Welty
On 12/1/14 12:41 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Paul Johnson > wrote: Entering most counties you get a sign that's printed in FlySpeck 3 font that reads: Unless otherwise posted speed limit 35 MPH on all roads in Lincol

Re: [Talk-us] User randomly adding speed limits across the US

2014-12-01 Thread Richard Welty
On 12/1/14 11:26 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: so what's the limit in alleys then? ;-) Well, in Oregon, unless otherwise posted, they're 15 MPH or what's reasonable and safe, whichever is lower, under Oregon's basic speed rule. In Oklahoma, I don't think I've ever seen an alleyway with a speed l

Re: [Talk-us] Palmer Motorsports Park...

2014-12-01 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/30/14 9:55 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: Eeeh, that's not as far out as, say, Hallett . Though you might want to fix all those "SH" and "SR" refs, can't even tell what state that's supposed to be in without asking Nominatim. On Sun, N

Re: [Talk-us] admin level for US states

2014-11-25 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/25/14 5:24 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote: Incidentally, [1] is silent on the question of Indian reservations, a topic that has come up periodically on this list. Is there any consensus on how to tag them? If so, it should be reflected in the table. i'm not aware of any consensus beyond "indian

Re: [Talk-us] admin level for US states

2014-11-24 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/24/14 9:44 AM, Richard Weait wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I wonder why US States are tagged as admin_level=4, wouldn't it be more consistent with the rest of the map to have them tagged as level 3? Based on which uses of admin_level=3? A quick sca

Re: [Talk-us] Rand McNally is using OSM

2014-11-23 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/22/14 10:49 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: To contact Rand McNally, click on the Help link, lower left. That brings up a pop-up labeled Resource. Select "Have more questions, Send Feedback." this link does work, which is good, because they've made a serious oversight in their routing engine (

Re: [Talk-us] Rand McNally is using OSM

2014-11-22 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/22/14 10:02 PM, Alan McConchie wrote: On the "help" page there is a link to http://www.randmcnally.com/legal/doc/tripmaker-attribution, which has attribution for OpenStreetMap. However, I can't actually get to that page from the Help window: there is some javascript intercepting my click

Re: [Talk-us] Rand McNally is using OSM

2014-11-22 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/22/14 9:29 PM, Hans De Kryger wrote: Rand McNally is using OSM in TripMaker. Say what? No way. 1.) http://tripmaker.randmcnally.com/ 2.) https://www.mapbox.com/blog/rand-mcnally-uses-mapbox/ perhaps someone smarter than i am can point out where the attribution for OSM contributors is on

[Talk-us] Palmer Motorsports Park...

2014-11-16 Thread Richard Welty
... is now on the map: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/42.2360/-72.2444 it won't open until mid summer but the pavement is down and i got 3 1/4 laps of it this morning driving the track centerline with tracklogger on my nexus 7. i also left the new track manager (Charlie was just hired 2 d

Re: [Talk-us] for my next race track mapping project...

2014-11-14 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/14/14 12:18 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:04 AM, Richard Welty <mailto:rwe...@averillpark.net>> wrote: back in July, i mapped the new/old road course at Thompson Speedway in Connecticut. this weekend, i should have the opportunity to get some

[Talk-us] for my next race track mapping project...

2014-11-14 Thread Richard Welty
back in July, i mapped the new/old road course at Thompson Speedway in Connecticut. this weekend, i should have the opportunity to get some good GPS tracks at the new track at Palmer, Massachusetts, as there is an open house sunday afternoon (so this track will be mapped before the first ever rac

Re: [Talk-us] Can we get this user band?

2014-11-14 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/14/14 10:34 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote: Could someone who knows Chinese check the content of the diary entries? By the way, I assume you mean "banned" (blocked from participation), rather than "band" (group of people). If the latter is what you meant, what do you want to get for the grou

Re: [Talk-us] New I.D Feature

2014-11-12 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/12/14 4:33 PM, Steven Johnson wrote: I share Sarah's skepticism about importing ZCTAs. ZCTAs are generalized polygons created by the US Census Bureau and derived from *point* data furnished by the US Postal Service. Given the variability of ZIP codes in general, and the fact that OSM is t

Re: [Talk-us] Anyone from New York State around?

2014-11-12 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/12/14 2:55 PM, SomeoneElse wrote: On 12/11/2014 19:43, Richard Welty wrote: On 11/12/14 2:36 PM, Richard Welty wrote: i'm taking a look at them now. i see tags deleted, and then restored by pnorman_mechanical. so there was a problem, but it seems that it's long since fixed (t

Re: [Talk-us] Anyone from New York State around?

2014-11-12 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/12/14 2:36 PM, Richard Welty wrote: i'm taking a look at them now. i see tags deleted, and then restored by pnorman_mechanical. so there was a problem, but it seems that it's long since fixed (thanks paul) richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS &

Re: [Talk-us] Anyone from New York State around?

2014-11-12 Thread Richard Welty
i'm taking a look at them now. On 11/12/14 1:01 PM, SomeoneElse wrote: I happened to notice https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/24646348 while looking at something else. It looks a bit odd - doesn't seem to match the underlying imagery. The previous changeset by this user https://www.

Re: [Talk-us] zip->city mappings

2014-11-09 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/9/14 3:10 PM, Nathan Mills wrote: Just keep in mind that some ZIPs cover multiple cities. The one I'm standing in now is found in parts of at least 3 different cities that I know of. Others cover both (parts of) cities and unincorporated areas outside of the city whose name they are asso

[Talk-us] zip->city mappings

2014-11-09 Thread Richard Welty
actually, it wouldn't be terribly hard for me to knock together a simple web page for looking up/entering zip code to city mappings, so i think i'll look into doing that. anyone who wants to save up shopping/credit card receipts so that they can enter the data should feel encouraged to do so. it m

Re: [Talk-us] New I.D Feature

2014-11-09 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/8/14 3:11 PM, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: Postal towns is really a concept that wasn't taken into account when the Karlsruhe address schema was developped and IMHO doesn't really fit. I'd really like to see some discussion in the US community about how it can be tagged including considering the

Re: [Talk-us] New I.D Feature

2014-11-07 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/6/14 11:32 PM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On Fri, 2014-11-07 at 04:17 +, Elliott Plack wrote: Before the state showed up in iD, I had assumed someone could just easily derive the US state from the postal code. Usually, yes, but that introduces a dependence on third party data (USPS) that r

Re: [Talk-us] Presenting your new OSM-US board

2014-10-15 Thread Richard Welty
Congratulations to the newly elected members of the OSM US board! I look forward to the continuation of the fine work the board has been doing. Richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS & IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search

Re: [Talk-us] Coastal Maine needs love

2014-10-15 Thread Richard Welty
On 10/15/14 10:56 AM, Eric Kidd wrote: Recently, I wanted to fix a few local islands and public parks in coastal Maine, where I have local knowledge. But much to my dismay, the local area was pretty thoroughly broken: * The county lines along the coast are based on a really old (and inco

Re: [Talk-us] Vandalism

2014-10-09 Thread Richard Welty
On 10/9/14 11:24 AM, Greg Morgan wrote: I think this is still a question for the DWG. I agree that it would be great to look at case from a positive perspective. In that respect, It would have been great if they just added a poi for the business, address, etc However, when you look at the use

Re: [Talk-us] Statistics of board candidate edits

2014-10-06 Thread Richard Welty
On 10/6/14 10:04 AM, David Fawcett wrote: To respectfully turn your statement around. I would like to hear from all candidates what skills and resources that they would bring to the board. By being an active mapper, a candidate has demonstrated that they know the project, and that they are pu

Re: [Talk-us] Questions for board nominees

2014-10-03 Thread Richard Welty
On 10/3/14 2:51 PM, Darrell Fuhriman wrote: I’d be curious if the board nominees could answer a few questions. 1) What do you think the OSM.us organization does well? a: SOTM-US has been consistently excellent in recent years b: organizing events such as mapathons 2) Where do you think it “

[Talk-us] moved manifesto

2014-09-30 Thread Richard Welty
my own server is getting beat on pretty hard, apparently by fine upstanding individuals verifying that i've upgraded bash on my server, so i've moved my manifesto over to the OSM wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Nfgusedautoparts/2014-manifesto -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park

Re: [Talk-us] US Chapter board elections - time is running out!

2014-09-30 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/30/14 1:11 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: I do agree that that is a challenge, and we have lost valuable time with the loss of institutional knowledge. We do have systems in place that should make the transition to a new board easier, but I agree that staggered terms make sense. We did actual

Re: [Talk-us] US Chapter board elections - time is running out!

2014-09-30 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/30/14 8:13 AM, Richard Weait wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: Hi all, With just a few days to go, we only have two names on the ballot for the upcoming US Chapter board elections. We have all five positions up for election, so this is clearly not enough! It

Re: [Talk-us] US Chapter board elections - time is running out!

2014-09-29 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/29/14 7:00 PM, Richard Weait wrote: I presume that candidates would add themselves on the wiki, here? http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Elections/2014 I further presume that self-nomination is acceptable, as both candidates have done so. :-) DO consider add

Re: [Talk-us] Merging NYC buildings

2014-09-19 Thread Richard Welty
On 09/19/2014 12:06 PM, Paul Norman wrote: The idea of some tag to "lock" objects from normal editing because they are "authoritative" has occasionally been proposed, and to summarize the discussion, it's extremely unlikely to happen. agreed. what i recommend is putting a note in a README

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2014 update

2014-09-17 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/17/14 12:57 AM, Nick Hocking wrote: Richard Welty wrote "the question is how much work are you willing to do to use it." here is how much work is involved: 1) find the shape file that covers your area on the TIGER site: ftp://ftp2.census.gov/geo/tiger/TIGER2014/ROADS/ you wi

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2014 update

2014-09-16 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/16/14 11:10 PM, Nick Hocking wrote: Mike wrote "Since the new roads were flagged, I was able to bring them into OSM. (All manually checked for connectivity, smoothing, etc)." Is ther a way to use TIGER 2014 in JOSM yet. i presume that you're asking for a layer similar to the 2012 and 20

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2014 update

2014-09-16 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/16/14 3:13 PM, Mike N wrote: Just out of curiosity, I did a dumb "road name" comparison between TIGER 2013 and TIGER 2014 for the surrounding dozen counties. I was surprised to find that my local county had a bunch of new roads added. So the TIGER data can get a major update for a reason

Re: [Talk-us] Prima Facie Speed Limits

2014-09-10 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/10/14 2:15 PM, Tod Fitch wrote: > The more I think about it, tagging each way is a bit like "(incorrect) > tagging for the router", basically creating a maintenance headache and > cluttering the OSM database with stuff the current router and navigation > guidance can use without being chang

Re: [Talk-us] Prima Facie Speed Limits

2014-09-10 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/10/14 9:42 AM, Greg Morgan wrote: > > Thanks. I could not remember the name of the manual. Although states > have rights, federal $$dollars$$ and the restrictions attached can > have a way overriding states rights. actually one of the most powerful motivators behind the widespread adaption o

Re: [Talk-us] Prima Facie Speed Limits

2014-09-08 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/8/14 5:55 PM, Greg Morgan wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Tod Fitch > wrote: > > Thus far I've only applied the maxspeed tag to roads with a posted > speed limit. But here in California most residential roads are not > posted, instead ther

Re: [Talk-us] Dirt Roads (formerly: Abandoned railway)

2014-08-31 Thread Richard Welty
On 8/31/14 1:03 PM, Tod Fitch wrote: > +1 to this. While mapping areas near my folks where I grew up there > are lots of dirt roads and there are lots of tracks and they are > different. > > In that area, in my opinion, a dirt road will have regular maintenance > sufficient for passage by a family

Re: [Talk-us] Quest for foolish consistency

2014-08-09 Thread Richard Welty
On 8/9/14 12:25 PM, Tod Fitch wrote: > While visiting some relatives in a small town (actually only really a CDP but > there is a post office and the county maintains a court house and sheriffs > station here) I have been doing morning walks to collect address data and to > verify street names p

[Talk-us] strange dead link in wiki.openstreetmap.org

2014-07-31 Thread Richard Welty
in the row for the United States in this table on admin boundaries: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative#10_admin_level_values_for_specific_countries there is a dead wikipedia link in the column for admin level 5, " Brillant com la purpurina cities

Re: [Talk-us] routing tags used by actual routing applications

2014-07-03 Thread Richard Welty
On 7/3/14 2:32 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Kevin Broderick > wrote: >> Highway=service implies a private road, though; > > Not always, service=alley can be public, can't they? > i'd say that most alleys i see are public. for obvious reasons they are little used

Re: [Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

2014-06-26 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/26/14 3:54 PM, Elliott Plack wrote: > ZIP code / government addressing data expert here :) > > and i don't disagree with you here, but my thinking about how to go forward may be very different. more details will be forthcoming. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GI

Re: [Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

2014-06-26 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/26/14 3:20 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote: > Postal code usually means Zip code, or its non-USA equivalent, not city. this is one of those fussy points in US geocoding. the zip code can be mapped to the postal "city", which is what is in everyone's addresses, and is what i think most us residents

Re: [Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

2014-06-25 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/25/14 6:37 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > > "Postal cities" aren't currently tagged as areas, only tag values on > individual POIs and buildings. Clifford's first example is a building > that lies outside the Redmond city limits but still carries a Redmond > address, which is noted in addr:city. > >

Re: [Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

2014-06-11 Thread Richard Welty
however folks may feel about CDPs, they aren't administrative government entities and the current tagging of them with an admin_level is clearly wrong (which Paul Norman pointed out to me a little while ago and he's absolutely right). if we can't get them out of the database then we should at least

Re: [Talk-us] Battlegrid

2014-05-21 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/21/14 7:08 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: > As I work to fix road names in Skagit and Whatcom County I want to > make sure that they won't appear on Battlegrid. For example, I just > changed North Summit Court to Kinglet Court in Whatcom County. I > verified the name which does not match TIGER 2013.

Re: [Talk-us] NY Capdist: osm meetup

2014-05-14 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/14/14 2:56 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > i've been working on this for a little bit, and it's finally coming > together. > > a meetup of OSMers in New York's Capital District is scheduled for June > 11th, > at Enable Technologies in Troy, NY, at 6pm ET. > ok,

[Talk-us] NY Capdist: osm meetup

2014-05-14 Thread Richard Welty
i've been working on this for a little bit, and it's finally coming together. a meetup of OSMers in New York's Capital District is scheduled for June 11th, at Enable Technologies in Troy, NY, at 6pm ET. the agenda is meet-and-greet, introductions, and possibly a few short presentations on various

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Inspector and streets with E/N/S/W in their name

2014-04-29 Thread Richard Welty
On 4/29/14 4:08 PM, Phil! Gold wrote: > * Frederik Ramm [2014-04-29 21:05 +0200]: >> In looking at its current error messages and warnings, I find many >> situations in the US where the way itself has a name tag of "South Apple >> Tree Road" but the house has an addr:street tag of just "Apple Tree

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Inspector and streets with E/N/S/W in their name

2014-04-29 Thread Richard Welty
On 4/29/14 3:31 PM, Richard Weait wrote: > On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > >> I wonder: Is OSMI correct in flagging this for correction, or is this >> something that nobody really cares about and that should not be >> highlighted? I.e. should we, in OSMI, drop the E/N/S/W p

Re: [Talk-us] State ref tags on ways

2014-04-27 Thread Richard Welty
On 4/27/14 3:10 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Richard Weait > wrote: > > - the concurrency of US1 and US 9, where ref=1-9 isn't numeric, but is > right. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_1/9 > > > How, as a country, can we suc

Re: [Talk-us] Mappy Hour Tonight!

2014-04-21 Thread Richard Welty
On 4/21/14 3:49 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hi all, > > Tonight = Mappy Hour Night! > at what time is it? thanks, richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS & IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search signature.asc Descripti

Re: [Talk-us] Mappy Hour Tonight!

2014-04-21 Thread Richard Welty
On 4/21/14 5:17 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > On 4/21/14 3:49 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Tonight = Mappy Hour Night! >> > at what time is it? answered my own question, it's at 8:30pm ET -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking -

Re: [Talk-us] State ref tags on ways

2014-03-28 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/28/14 11:33 AM, Elliott Plack wrote: > Phil, > > That's right. I would use unsigned_ref for county routes. In Baltimore > County the county route numbers are never signed and not really even > advertised. You'd have to look at SHA databases to figure out the ref. Here > is an example using the

Re: [Talk-us] State ref tags on ways

2014-03-26 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/26/14 9:52 PM, Carl Simonson wrote: > It seems to me like the "ref" tag really isn't all that useful for ways > anyway, because what we are really trying to tag is networks, not > individual roads. > it's of limited value on ways. hopefully the usage of ref tags on ways will wither and disappe

Re: [Talk-us] State ref tags on ways

2014-03-26 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/26/14 10:16 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > >> for Washington County. (some places they use US:NY:CR:Washington >> which might be better, i don't know). >> > I thought the consensus was on US:: > i don&#x

[Talk-us] mappy hour

2014-03-24 Thread Richard Welty
serge has managed to get it going. try this link: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7acpifm4a9c1h4a4l7ef511218?hl=en -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS & IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search signature.asc Description: Open

[Talk-us] mappy hour apologies

2014-03-24 Thread Richard Welty
not going well here. google hangouts is repeatedly insisting that i install a package that i've already installed. i have no idea when i'll get this working. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS & IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applicati

[Talk-us] mappy hour link

2014-03-24 Thread Richard Welty
this should do it: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYfFLzBAMBAJKQVGiKS3rTGlweO4YoWjZEg2grEq6_G2VcTY_Q?authuser=0&hl=en -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS & IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search signature.asc

[Talk-us] mappy hour tonight, 8:30pm eastern time

2014-03-24 Thread Richard Welty
a reminder, i'm running a faux mappy hour on google plus tonight at 8:30pm et. hopefully i figured everything out last time and this time the startup will be relatively painless. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS & IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux

Re: [Talk-us] OpenStreetMap Isn't All That Open, Let's Change That and Drop Share-Alike

2014-03-13 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/13/14 1:27 PM, Richard Weait wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Alex Barth wrote: >> Hello everyone - >> >> I've been sitting on writing about the detrimental effects of >> OpenStreetMap's share-alike license (ODbL) for a while and finally decided >> to, um, share. I've been listening

Re: [Talk-us] State ref tags on ways: Use of unique ISO/ANSI/USPS 2-letter state codes in RELATIONS as well as WAYS?

2014-03-13 Thread Richard Welty
i've removed all prior text because i think it'll be a distraction. we need to avoid jumbling rendering issues with data representation issues. too many of us are focusing on how the rendered version looks and not all data consumers are renderers. the long term path will involve abandoning ref ta

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