Re[2]: Resource Leak

2007-08-23 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : --- Application Error --- Exception ECriticalSectionsLeak in module theBat.exe at 000481B5. Resource leak: 3 instance(s) of TBatCriticalSection left Caller addresses listed below: 0092DC2F 0092B4A1

Re: Resource Leak

2007-08-23 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Once again: --- Application Error --- Exception ECriticalSectionsLeak in module theBat.exe at 000481B5. Resource leak: 3 instance(s) of TBatCriticalSection left Caller addresses listed below: 0092DC2F

Re[3]: Resource Leak

2007-08-23 Thread Goncalo Farias
I have opened BT bug report https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6442 regarding this issue! -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Expert - knows tomorrow why today's prediction failed. Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information:

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread George M. Menegakis
Hello Indie_Dev, Thursday, August 23, 2007, 12:06:17 AM, you wrote: And if I breached anonymity and told the list who I was, you'd know that apart from being a highly trained and well respected developer, that I'm probably the _last_ person you'd want to be messing with at the personal

Re: Beta/21

2007-08-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Wednesday, August 22, 2007, Maxim Masiutin wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39921.rar [-] (AGAIN!) Filters should be loaded more correctly from now on (for MAU) [-] cannot open the file mailto:; error message when I started this build, warning dialog

Re[2]: Beta/21

2007-08-23 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Marek, Thursday, August 23, 2007, 11:57:53, you wrote: when I started this build, warning dialog about invalid argument Invalid argument to date encode? -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Beta/21

2007-08-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Thursday, August 23, 2007, Maxim Masiutin wrote: when I started this build, warning dialog about invalid argument Invalid argument to date encode? maybe, but I am not sure, it was in czech... BTW this window was hidden behind splashscreen and I was forced to confirm it to open TB.

Re: Resource Leak

2007-08-23 Thread vitalie vrabie
Goncalo Farias wrote: I have opened BT bug report https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6442 regarding this issue! fine. you've filed it. now fire it up (ask for some gasoline from some people around here). nya-nya-nya, thebutt goes titsup when i start it... hence seems to be a female...

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Marck, Thursday, August 23, 2007, 1:55:30 AM, you wrote: MDP An A*se is something that I will go no MDP further in mentioning lest it be taken up and used in vain, Moderator! He's using explicit sexual language! MDP thus demanding an official trouting. Of course, while you're at it, why

Issue Forward template doesn't work in Sorting office fixed

2007-08-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello, I have tested https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6350 issue and for me, template is stored. Can You check this please? -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.99.21 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2

Re: Issue Forward template doesn't work in Sorting office fixed

2007-08-23 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Marek, Thursday, August 23, 2007, 14:18:05, you wrote: I have tested https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6350 issue and for me, template is stored. Can You check this please? Maybe the problems may ocur with national characters only? -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin

Re: Issue Forward template doesn't work in Sorting office fixed

2007-08-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Thursday, August 23, 2007, Maxim Masiutin wrote: I have tested https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6350 issue and for me, template is stored. Can You check this please? Maybe the problems may ocur with national characters only? do not about previous versions, but I have tried

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread Rick Grunwald
MDP thus demanding an official trouting. Of course, while you're at it, why not add some SM!!! :-) With this in mind I would like to suggest the attached icon for inclusion in version 4 -- Rick The Bat Version 3.99.21 (BETA) on Windows XP, Service Pack 2 attachment:

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread Nick Danger
Reply to message sent 08/22/2007, @ 17:06:17 (4:06 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Indie_Dev, And if I breached anonymity and told the list who I was, you'd know that apart from being a highly trained and well respected developer, that I'm

Right mouse button on SYSTRAY icon restores The Bat! main window

2007-08-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello, when is TB minimized and I use RMB on systray icon for opening contect menu, TB main window is restored with opening context menu. Reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6443 -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best

Re[2]: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread Indie_Dev
Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 11:14:00 PM, you wrote: I find it amusing that a very self important person wants TB! You know what? I'm getting tired of the personal attacks. Usually when that happens, its from people who feel inferior in the face of adversity. So they compensate for their

Re[2]: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread Indie_Dev
Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 11:14:03 PM, you wrote: Hello Indie_Dev, On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I I'm going to either end up with several virtual folders or several I different views with different sorting criteria. Seriously, whats I worth all this hassle? Then

Re[2]: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread Indie_Dev
Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 9:44:19 PM, you wrote: Indie_Dev wrote: OK, lets try this again. i knew you'll like it. Those _same_ emails imported into the following WORK JUST FINE and with NONE of this silliness that we're so hotly debating. Outlook Outlook Express Windows Mail

Re[4]: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread Indie_Dev
Thursday, August 23, 2007, 12:40:11 AM, you wrote: In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : *snip* I'm going to cite Walter Bright regarding something everybody was doing differently: As James Kanze explained on comp.lang.c++.moderated, DMC++ is correct according to the Standard.

Re[4]: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread Indie_Dev
Thursday, August 23, 2007, 12:21:11 AM, you wrote: In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I No, thats not what I'm implying. Lets try this again. Too bad we I don't have access to a chalk board and a box of crayons because I this is a classic classroom debate that can only be resolved

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Thursday, August 23, 2007, Indie_Dev wrote: TB is wrong. There is absolutely _no_ question about it. None. You can't just have EVERY SINGLE email program EVER written, do it one way, then TB! does it another way and then say that TB! is doing it the correct way. as I think,

Re[8]: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread Indie_Dev
Thursday, August 23, 2007, 12:03:37 AM, you wrote: In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : To mimic the functionality of the attachment pane to the attachments button it would have to be possible to choose any random set of files for deletion because its one of the possible thing you can do

Mod: Traffic claming

2007-08-23 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi TB Beta list members, moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers. Indie_Dev has recently joined this forum and has injected a fervour to a debate about the way TB! does things. Such input is to be welcomed. It's refreshing to see something serious to discuss on

Re[2]: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread Indie_Dev
Thursday, August 23, 2007, 4:09:06 AM, you wrote: Hello Indie_Dev, Thursday, August 23, 2007, 12:06:17 AM, you wrote: And if I breached anonymity and told the list who I was, you'd know that apart from being a highly trained and well respected developer, that I'm probably the _last_ person

Re[2]: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread Indie_Dev
Thursday, August 23, 2007, 8:27:05 AM, you wrote: Reply to message sent 08/22/2007, @ 17:06:17 (4:06 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Indie_Dev, And if I breached anonymity and told the list who I was, you'd know that apart from being a

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread vitalie vrabie
Indie_Dev wrote: you just deaf or what? Here we go again with the personal attacks. You pack guys must really have fun in your group hug sessions. you said you don't take personally any of this fly attractant. make sure they're compliant, then fire up a bugreport with a couple of

Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Indie_Dev
Anyone know how to suppress the creation of these message.html files? They're just litter and will only serve to increase the size of the mailboxes over time. -- Best regards, Indie_Dev Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA'

RE: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Vilius Šumskas
Anyone know how to suppress the creation of these message.html files? They're just litter and will only serve to increase the size of the mailboxes over time. Instruct your colleagues NOT to send HTML email. -- Best Regards, Vilius Šumskas LNK TV system administrator mob.: +370 614

Re[2]: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread Indie_Dev
Thursday, August 23, 2007, 8:55:21 AM, you wrote: *snip* Ritlabs is a small - very small - team of developers. Other email programs (apart from Pocomail) are written and supported by large corporations and/or groups. Eudora is probably one of the oldest ubiquitous email readers on the

Re: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Mark Partous
Hello, Thursday, August 23, 2007, 3:12:32 PM, you wrote: I Anyone know how to suppress the creation of these message.html files? Preferences - Viewer/Editor - View HTML Messages View Messages with alternative layout: choose Plain Text Version Only I They're just litter and will only serve

Re: Mod: Traffic claming

2007-08-23 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Marck, Thursday, August 23, 2007, 2:56:19 PM, you wrote: MDP Indie_Dev is quite right in pointing out that (s)he is becoming the MDP focus of some personal attacks. ,--/ based upon: \ | Life's too short and I only have a pair of tits which refuse to grow any | bigger than my

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Thursday, August 23, 2007, Indie_Dev wrote: Ritlabs is a small - very small - team of developers. Other email programs (apart from Pocomail) are written and supported by large corporations and/or groups. Eudora is probably one of the oldest ubiquitous email readers on the planet.

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread George M. Menegakis
Hello Indie_Dev, Thursday, August 23, 2007, 4:07:25 PM, you wrote: I agree with you. Again - and I've said this before - my opinion has nothing to do with telling the devs how they should develop their program. If they choose to do something one way and I can't deal with it, well, thats what

Re: Right mouse button on SYSTRAY icon restores The Bat! main window

2007-08-23 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Marek, on Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:27:56 +0200GMT (23.08.2007, 14:27 +0200GMT here), you wrote: MM Hello, MM when is TB minimized and I use RMB on systray icon for opening contect MM menu, TB main window is restored with opening context menu. MM Reported in

A little game/test with Received date

2007-08-23 Thread MAU
Hello all, In a different thread, someone wrote: TB! handles email imports INCORRECTLY. Period. End of story. If you have a couple of minutes to spare, I propose a little test or game: 1.- Select a message from a previous date in any of your folders. 2.- Select Tools/Export messages to.. and

received by server timestamp

2007-08-23 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello George, Thursday, August 23, 2007, 16:55:24, you wrote: In my previous mail I wrote that I found your points valid but there are also counter points that are also valid! From The Bat's! behalf, the mail is RECEIVED as long as it got into its database. Technically this is correct. I like

Re[2]: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Indie_Dev
Thursday, August 23, 2007, 9:14:56 AM, you wrote: Anyone know how to suppress the creation of these message.html files? They're just litter and will only serve to increase the size of the mailboxes over time. Instruct your colleagues NOT to send HTML email. OK, I'm getting tired of your

Re: received by server timestamp

2007-08-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Thursday, August 23, 2007, Maxim Masiutin wrote: In my previous mail I wrote that I found your points valid but there are also counter points that are also valid! From The Bat's! behalf, the mail is RECEIVED as long as it got into its database. Technically this is correct. I like the

Re: received by server timestamp

2007-08-23 Thread MAU
Hello Maxim, In the V4 we are changing the message index file format... - Dangerous :) - Please run a full beta cycle just for the new index format before release. - Will it be backwards compatible so that one can safely revert to a previous version if needed? -- Best regards, Miguel A.

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread Indie_Dev
OK, I've files reports for every issue and quirk I've encountered and which need looking at if the devs choose to do so. 0006451...0006444 -- cheers, Indie_Dev Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information:

Re[2]: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Indie_Dev
Thursday, August 23, 2007, 9:39:08 AM, you wrote: Hello, Thursday, August 23, 2007, 3:12:32 PM, you wrote: I Anyone know how to suppress the creation of these message.html files? Preferences - Viewer/Editor - View HTML Messages View Messages with alternative layout: choose Plain Text

Re: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Rick Grunwald
Hello Vilius On Thursday, August 23, 2007 you wrote: Anyone know how to suppress the creation of these message.html files? They're just litter and will only serve to increase the size of the mailboxes over time. Instruct your colleagues NOT to send HTML email. THAT is NOT a solution --

Re[2]: Mod: Traffic claming

2007-08-23 Thread Indie_Dev
Thursday, August 23, 2007, 9:45:04 AM, you wrote: Hello Marck, Thursday, August 23, 2007, 2:56:19 PM, you wrote: MDP Indie_Dev is quite right in pointing out that (s)he is becoming the MDP focus of some personal attacks. ,--/ based upon: \ | Life's too short and I only have a pair

Re[2]: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread Indie_Dev
Thursday, August 23, 2007, 9:55:24 AM, you wrote: Hello Indie_Dev, *snip* Very well said. However with the following lines it seems that we are moving to a dangerous ground: I'll mention it on my blog, it will get read - millions and millions of times. Then everyone even thinking of

Re[2]: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Indie_dev, Thursday, August 23, 2007, 17:31:35, you wrote: OK, I've files reports for every issue and quirk I've encountered and which need looking at if the devs choose to do so. 0006451...0006444 Thank you very much! This is very useful! -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin

Re: received by server timestamp

2007-08-23 Thread Indie_Dev
Thursday, August 23, 2007, 10:08:05 AM, you wrote: Hello George, Thursday, August 23, 2007, 16:55:24, you wrote: In my previous mail I wrote that I found your points valid but there are also counter points that are also valid! From The Bat's! behalf, the mail is RECEIVED as long as it got

Re[2]: received by server timestamp

2007-08-23 Thread Indie_Dev
Thursday, August 23, 2007, 10:11:02 AM, you wrote: Hello all, Thursday, August 23, 2007, Maxim Masiutin wrote: In my previous mail I wrote that I found your points valid but there are also counter points that are also valid! From The Bat's! behalf, the mail is RECEIVED as long as it got into

RE: Re[2]: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Vilius Šumskas
Thursday, August 23, 2007, 9:14:56 AM, you wrote: Anyone know how to suppress the creation of these message.html files? They're just litter and will only serve to increase the size of the mailboxes over time. Instruct your colleagues NOT to send HTML email. OK, I'm getting tired

RE: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Vilius Šumskas
Hello Vilius On Thursday, August 23, 2007 you wrote: Anyone know how to suppress the creation of these message.html files? They're just litter and will only serve to increase the size of the mailboxes over time. Instruct your colleagues NOT to send HTML email. THAT is NOT a

Re[2]: received by server timestamp

2007-08-23 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Indie_dev, Thursday, August 23, 2007, 17:42:41, you wrote: Thats good to know. But my question is, whats so hard about just leaving the emails alone and importing them as-is? This is not about sorting per se. During import, if for some reason TB! needs to know when an email was imported,

Re: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Rick Grunwald
Instruct your colleagues NOT to send HTML email. THAT is NOT a solution Why? Because HTML email is what is happening on the Internet these days and for the past few years. Take a look at the number of customers THE BAT has lost because it cannot deal effectively with HTML email, eithe

Re[2]: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Paul Van Noord
8/23/2007 11:02 AM Hi Rick, On 8/23/2007 Rick Grunwald wrote: RG Because HTML email is what is happening on the Internet these days and RG for the past few years. Take a look at the number of customers THE BAT RG has lost because it cannot deal effectively with HTML email, eithe RG viewing or

Re: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Rick Grunwald
Hello Paul On Thursday, August 23, 2007 you wrote: Your response does not address the question of removing message.html No it doesn't. It deals with a suggestion to tell people NOT to send HTML. HTML is here to stay. As for spam, I have been getting PDFs. Should we stop using Acrobat? SHould

RE: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Vilius Šumskas
So again, offering Instruct your colleagues NOT to send HTML email. ... is Not helpful nor realistic. That is what I was addressing It is realistic. Most email for every business user comes from the people they are working with. I personally configured ALL Outlook/OE clients in my

RE: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Vilius Šumskas
Instruct your colleagues NOT to send HTML email. THAT is NOT a solution Why? Because HTML email is what is happening on the Internet these days and for the past few years. Take a look at the number of customers THE BAT has lost because it cannot deal effectively with HTML email,

Re[3]: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Indie_Dev
Thursday, August 23, 2007, 11:09:58 AM, you wrote: 8/23/2007 11:02 AM Hi Rick, On 8/23/2007 Rick Grunwald wrote: RG Because HTML email is what is happening on the Internet these days and RG for the past few years. Take a look at the number of customers THE BAT RG has lost because it cannot

Re[2]: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Paul Van Noord
8/23/2007 11:39 AM Hi Rick, On 8/23/2007 Rick Grunwald wrote: RG ... is Not helpful nor realistic. That is what I was addressing Can we agree that your dissertation on the merits of HTML did not address the question? That is what I was addressing. I offered a different point of view. --

Re: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Rick Grunwald
Hello Vilius On Thursday, August 23, 2007 you wrote: So again, offering Instruct your colleagues NOT to send HTML email. ... is Not helpful nor realistic. That is what I was addressing It is realistic. Most email for every business user comes from the people they are working with. I

Re: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Rick Grunwald
Hello Vilius On Thursday, August 23, 2007 you wrote: SPAM is happening on the Internet these days too. Should we not fight it? Sure, but fighting spam is a different issue. Most spam comes in HTML format so it will at LEAST be presentable and sometimes for more insidious reasons such as hiding

Re: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Rick Grunwald
Hello Paul RG ... is Not helpful nor realistic. That is RG what I was addressing Can we agree that your dissertation on the merits of HTML did not address the question? That is what I was addressing. I offered a different point of view. Sure - I am getting tired of the fighting anyway. My

MAPI error 2

2007-08-23 Thread Rick Grunwald
In several programs I use that will email their results (ACDSEE and Snagit for instance) they have started failing with a MAPI error and in Snagit's case a MAPI error 2. I can no longer send files from these programs directly to the bat. This is a change in behavior and something that broke

Changing from HTML to Plain Text

2007-08-23 Thread Rick Grunwald
I can't pin this down. It happens often but not always. Sometimes there is an attached index.html and sometimes not. Sometimes there is a table, sometimes not I will change an HTML composed or forwarded message to plain text and the text will disappear. I can copy and paste it and the message

Re: MAPI error 2

2007-08-23 Thread MAU
Hello Rick, In several programs I use that will email their results (ACDSEE and Snagit for instance) they have started failing with a MAPI error and in Snagit's case a MAPI error 2. I can no longer send files from these programs directly to the bat. This is a change in behavior and

Re: A little game/test with Received date

2007-08-23 Thread George M. Menegakis
Hello MAU, Thursday, August 23, 2007, 5:05:20 PM, you wrote: If you have a couple of minutes to spare, I propose a little test or game: Now look at the 'Received Date' of the 3 messages: - The one imported from .msg should show the date/time of the import. - What's the Received

Re: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread vitalie vrabie
Rick Grunwald wrote: If you still disagree reformat your drive and install OS/2. After all Bill Gates himself said it was the best operating system. ...the message we have here is the strong belief that OS/2 is the platform for the 90s. -- Signed, Vitalie. http://vv.labordei.com

Re: Small Enhancement request

2007-08-23 Thread paulmeathrel
Hi Robert, Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 3:12:17 PM, you wrote: on several spots in TB there is a select folders dialog (e.g. 'Select folders' for Virtual folders and 'Use By' for View Mode). It would be very handy if these dialogs were extended: I agree the Use By screen is in particular need

Re: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Rick Grunwald
Hello vitalie On Thursday, August 23, 2007 you wrote: Rick Grunwald wrote: If you still disagree reformat your drive and install OS/2. After all Bill Gates himself said it was the best operating system. ...the message we have here is the strong belief that OS/2 is the platform for the

Re: MAPI error 2

2007-08-23 Thread Rick Grunwald
Hello MAU On Thursday, August 23, 2007 you wrote: Hello Rick, In several programs I use that will email their results (ACDSEE and Snagit for instance) they have started failing with a MAPI error and in Snagit's case a MAPI error 2. I can no longer send files from these programs directly

Re: MAPI error 2

2007-08-23 Thread Rick Grunwald
I can no longer send files from these programs directly to the bat. This is a change in behavior and something that broke during the past couple of Betas --- Windows Internet Explorer --- Could not perform this operation because the default

Re[2]: MAPI error 2

2007-08-23 Thread Paul Van Noord
8/23/2007 4:25 PM Hi Rick, On 8/23/2007 Rick Grunwald wrote: RG Outlook Express is now the unchangeable default. Something is broke! :'( Maybe it is all that HTML mail? 8-]} -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE

Re: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread vitalie vrabie
Rick Grunwald wrote: If you still disagree reformat your drive and install OS/2. After all Bill Gates himself said it was the best operating system. ...the message we have here is the strong belief that OS/2 is the platform for the 90s. I think he said that in the late 80s

Re[3]: received by server timestamp

2007-08-23 Thread Indie_Dev
Thursday, August 23, 2007, 10:50:16 AM, you wrote: Hello Indie_dev, Thursday, August 23, 2007, 17:42:41, you wrote: Thats good to know. But my question is, whats so hard about just leaving the emails alone and importing them as-is? This is not about sorting per se. During import, if for some

Re[3]: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Indie_Dev
Thursday, August 23, 2007, 11:09:58 AM, you wrote: 8/23/2007 11:02 AM Hi Rick, On 8/23/2007 Rick Grunwald wrote: RG Because HTML email is what is happening on the Internet these days and RG for the past few years. Take a look at the number of customers THE BAT RG has lost because it cannot

Re[2]: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Indie_Dev
Thursday, August 23, 2007, 11:36:14 AM, you wrote: So again, offering Instruct your colleagues NOT to send HTML email. ... is Not helpful nor realistic. That is what I was addressing It is realistic. Most email for every business user comes from the people they are working with. I

Re[3]: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Indie_Dev
Thursday, August 23, 2007, 11:43:28 AM, you wrote: 8/23/2007 11:39 AM Hi Rick, On 8/23/2007 Rick Grunwald wrote: RG ... is Not helpful nor realistic. That is what I was addressing Can we agree that your dissertation on the merits of HTML did not address the question? That is what I was

Re[2]: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Indie_Dev
Thursday, August 23, 2007, 11:37:48 AM, you wrote: Instruct your colleagues NOT to send HTML email. THAT is NOT a solution Why? Because HTML email is what is happening on the Internet these days and for the past few years. Take a look at the number of customers THE BAT has lost

Re[2]: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Indie_Dev
Thursday, August 23, 2007, 2:56:22 PM, you wrote: Hello vitalie On Thursday, August 23, 2007 you wrote: Rick Grunwald wrote: If you still disagree reformat your drive and install OS/2. After all Bill Gates himself said it was the best operating system. ...the message we have here is

Re[2]: MAPI error 2

2007-08-23 Thread Indie_Dev
Thursday, August 23, 2007, 3:49:15 PM, you wrote: I can no longer send files from these programs directly to the bat. This is a change in behavior and something that broke during the past couple of Betas --- Windows Internet Explorer ---

Re[5]: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : If I sent you an email in 1996 and it stayed on your ISP mail server until today how should it appear on email client? With today's date or 1996? I I was importing emails from my local drive that was _already_ I downloaded. Its not on

Re: MAPI error 2

2007-08-23 Thread Rick Grunwald
Hello Paul On Thursday, August 23, 2007 you wrote: 8/23/2007 4:25 PM Hi Rick, On 8/23/2007 Rick Grunwald wrote: RG Outlook Express is now the unchangeable RG default. Something is broke! :'( Maybe it is all that HTML mail? 8-]} Are you confirming or not? -- Rick The Bat Version

Re[9]: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Don't say it wrong because it not! It seems that you didn't understand what I meant. I Hey, its wrong to _me_. So of course I can say its wrong. But it's not. I functionality of the 'attachment display' has nothing to do with I 'randomnesss' since the

Re[3]: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : and this should be a warranty of anything? Such big corporations manytimes tries do their own standards and waits, if others will use it or not. I The point I was making is that larger companies will tend to be more I in compliance of standards (e.g. RFC)

Re: MAPI error 2

2007-08-23 Thread Jan Rifkinson
On Thursday, August 23, 2007 it appears that MAU wrote the following in regards to MAPI error 2: [snip] I can no longer send files from these programs directly to the bat. This is a change in behavior and something that broke during the past couple of Betas Confirm anyone? M Yes, with

Re[5]: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I'm going to cite Walter Bright regarding something everybody was doing differently: As James Kanze explained on comp.lang.c++.moderated, DMC++ is correct according to the Standard. However, nobody else does it that way, and the Standard is

Re: MAPI error 2

2007-08-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Friday, August 24, 2007, Jan Rifkinson wrote: M Yes, with 3.99.21 and ACDSee Pro. No problem with 3.99.06. MAU, Is 3.99.06 available somewhere? here for example: http://www.thebat.cz/stazeni/beta/tb39906.rar (4 MB) -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat!

Re: MAPI error 2

2007-08-23 Thread Uwe Steinfeld
Hello Rick, On 2007-08-23 you wrote: In several programs I use that will email their results (ACDSEE and Snagit for instance) they have started failing with a MAPI error and in Snagit's case a MAPI error 2. Confirm anyone? No problem with ACDSee Pro and 3.99.08. -- Regards, Uwe Using

Re: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Vilius Šumskas
Sveiki, Thursday, August 23, 2007, 11:37:48 AM, you wrote: Instruct your colleagues NOT to send HTML email. THAT is NOT a solution Why? Because HTML email is what is happening on the Internet these days and for the past few years. Take a look at the number of customers THE BAT

Re: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Vilius Šumskas
Sveiki, Thursday, August 23, 2007, 11:36:14 AM, you wrote: So again, offering Instruct your colleagues NOT to send HTML email. ... is Not helpful nor realistic. That is what I was addressing It is realistic. Most email for every business user comes from the people they are working

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread Hendrik Oesterlin
Goncalo Farias wrote on 24/08/2007 at 08:41:23 +1100 subject Interface Inconsistencies : In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : If I sent you an email in 1996 and it stayed on your ISP mail server until today how should it appear on email client? With today's date or 1996? I I

Re: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Rick Grunwald
Hello Vilius Who said that it's ACCEPTABLE? I understand HTML when people send commercial newsletters or official goverment letters, but when every folk on a planet uses HTML only to send a message in red (or whatever) just to say Hello, how are you? it is unacceptable and stupid. It

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread Hendrik Oesterlin
Indie_Dev wrote on 23/08/2007 at 10:59:47 +1100 subject Interface Inconsistencies : Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 7:30:15 PM, you wrote: Hi Zygmunt, On Tue, 21 Aug 2007, at 22:45:03 [GMT +0200] (which was 22:45 where I live) you wrote about: 'Interface Inconsistencies' [...] The Bat! knows

beta fixes GnuPG bug

2007-08-23 Thread Benson
I posted a description of a gpg signing error on the TB forum today and it was suggested that the latest beta fixed this. Is it available for me to try? Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information:

Re: beta fixes GnuPG bug

2007-08-23 Thread Hendrik Oesterlin
Benson wrote on 24/08/2007 at 11:23:54 +1100 subject beta fixes GnuPG bug : I posted a description of a gpg signing error on the TB forum today and it was suggested that the latest beta fixed this. Is it available for me to try? The latest beta is available bere:

Re[2]: beta fixes GnuPG bug

2007-08-23 Thread Benson
Here is the thread that I was referring to re the bug being fixed in beta: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forum/read.php?FID=4TID=5019 I'm using 3.99.3 Using GnuPG trying to sign a message. I answer the prompt for my password. A dos box opens for gpg.exe but nothing happens beyond that.

Re[2]: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Paul Van Noord
8/23/2007 10:06 PM Hi Vilius, On 8/23/2007 Vilius Šumskas wrote: VŠ Who said that it's ACCEPTABLE? I understand HTML when people send VŠ commercial newsletters or official goverment letters, but when every VŠ folk on a planet uses HTML only to send a message in red (or whatever) VŠ just to say

Re[2]: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Paul Van Noord
8/23/2007 10:09 PM Hi Rick, On 8/23/2007 Rick Grunwald wrote: RG It doesn't matter if it RG 1) Takes more bandwidth RG 2) Takes more processor power RG 3) Is unacceptable and stupid RG 4) Made default by Microsoft RG THAT IS THE WAY IT IS WHETHER OR NOT WE LIKE IT!! Only for the people

Re: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Hendrik Oesterlin
Indie_Dev wrote on 24/08/2007 at 01:08:44 +1100 subject Suppressing the message.html file : Thursday, August 23, 2007, 9:14:56 AM, you wrote: Anyone know how to suppress the creation of these message.html files? They're just litter and will only serve to increase the size of the mailboxes

Re: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Hendrik Oesterlin
Indie_Dev wrote on 24/08/2007 at 08:19:35 +1100 subject Suppressing the message.html file : Actually, thats not true. I just updated my report because mine are not getting deleted even when I manually delete delete and answer the prompt. Yes, I am using .21 Build (is .22 out yet btw?) They

Re: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Hendrik Oesterlin
Rick Grunwald wrote on 24/08/2007 at 02:56:15 +1100 subject Suppressing the message.html file : Hello Vilius On Thursday, August 23, 2007 you wrote: So again, offering Instruct your colleagues NOT to send HTML email. ... is Not helpful nor realistic. That is what I was addressing It

Re: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread Hendrik Oesterlin
Indie_Dev wrote on 24/08/2007 at 08:21:34 +1100 subject Suppressing the message.html file : Thursday, August 23, 2007, 11:36:14 AM, you wrote: So again, offering Instruct your colleagues NOT to send HTML email. ... is Not helpful nor realistic. That is what I was addressing It is

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