Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-19 Thread MAU
Hello Stuart, >> I'm afraid I don't understand. What does MyGate have to do with S.O.? > MyGate produces filter strings that can be copied in to SO directly (I > think). Yes, I clarified that afterwards in -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-19 Thread Stuart Hemming
> Hello Peter, > I'm afraid I don't understand. What does MyGate have to do with S.O.? MyGate produces filter strings that can be copied in to SO directly (I think). -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.8.1, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop

SOT: Grammar and "yellowish icons" [was Re: v3.5 status]

2005-05-19 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Marcus! On Thursday, May 19, 2005, 2:42 AM, you wrote: In fact, if I didn't have the "yellowish icons" solution to my vision problems that I got from MAU >>> Naughty guy, that MAU, giving you a vision problem and all...;-) >> Come on, Marcus, you're better at English grammar than

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-19 Thread Marcus Ohlström
On Thursday, May 19, 2005, 01:13, Mary Bull wrote: >>> In fact, if I didn't have the "yellowish icons" solution to my >>> vision problems that I got from MAU >> Naughty guy, that MAU, giving you a vision problem and all...;-) > Come on, Marcus, you're better at English grammar than that! ;) No

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Wed, 18 May 2005 20:04:38 +0200, Alto Speckhardt wrote: [Mulberry] > I couldn't make the viewer display quotes when it wasn't "> > Text" but "Initials> Text". Things like that. This Initials Quote Prefixing is a TB! specific idiosyncrasy, dating back to long forgotten FIDO days. IMO Ritlabs s

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Martin! On Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 6:28 PM, you wrote: >> I'd have quietly dropped back to v. 3.0.2.10 and published no >> diatribes to TBBETA about it! :soapbox: > Diatribbles more likely! ;-) hehehe * <- Tribble .. <- Diatribble ä <- Tribble under Diaresis Martin Webster, y

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Mary, On 19 May 2005, 00:13 you wrote: > If I hadn't got the "yellowish icons" from MAU, which solved the > problems that the default transparent blue ghosts were giving my old > eyes, I'd have quietly dropped back to v. 3.0.2.10 and published no > diatribes to TBBETA about it! :soapbox:

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Marcus! On Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 5:02 PM, you wrote: >> In fact, if I didn't have the "yellowish icons" solution to my vision >> problems that I got from MAU > Naughty guy, that MAU, giving you a vision problem and all...;-) Come on, Marcus, you're better at English grammar than that!

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread Marcus Ohlström
On Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 18:01, Mary Bull wrote: > In fact, if I didn't have the "yellowish icons" solution to my vision > problems that I got from MAU Naughty guy, that MAU, giving you a vision problem and all...;-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Martin, On 18 May 2005, 19:57 you wrote: >> As Miguel says, if you don't like it don't use it. The choice is >> yours... but please spare us your diatribe. > This one is to easy - it sound like "shut up". That is not what I said. I was referring to the use of harsh language. -- As eve

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Alto, On 18 May 2005, 12:56 you wrote: > I don't expect an answer from RIT to emails in which I accuse them of > amateurism and incompetency in their development procedures, even if > in my opinion one would be warranted nevertheless. Your constant gibes, which are unwarranted and offensi

Re[2]: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi Mary, MB> Again, as with Martin Sebald, I really do have to take all your MB> words as a means of "blowing off steam." You're right about that. Much of it I wouldn't have said if the whole affair hadn't come that far. Technically there isn't a word I would have to take back, but possibly not e

Re[2]: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi Alex, >> v3.5 a piece of junk Please do quote me in full and not distortingly. ASK> I thought I'd already read you were switching to Mulberry a ASK> couple of days ago ("Thats it"), why don't you do that then? I did, but it turned out that Mulberry isn't quite right for me either. Sending

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Allie! On Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 12:38 PM, you wrote: > ... On the face of the anguished testimonials, logic often begs the > consideration of the seemingly simple solution of just moving on and > using another client, thus ending the misery. > Apparently, this isn't so easy, nor nearly

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread MAU
Hello MAU, M>>> I'm afraid I don't understand. What does MyGate have to do with S.O.? >> >> Subscription: "Copy filter". > > Are we talking about the same 'MyGate'? I have the last version, 2.6, > and there is no such option. Are you perhaps talking about a plugin > version or something? Oo

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread Allie Martin
Hi Alexander, On 18/05/2005 07:08 PM +0200, you wrote: > I thought I'd already read you were switching to Mulberry a couple of > days ago ("Thats it"), why don't you do that then? Looks like > something about this "piece of junk" keeps you using it. LOL! There's absolutely no doubt that TB! is

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread MAU
Hello Peter, M>> I'm afraid I don't understand. What does MyGate have to do with S.O.? > > Subscription: "Copy filter". Are we talking about the same 'MyGate'? I have the last version, 2.6, and there is no such option. Are you perhaps talking about a plugin version or something? -- Best regard

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread Peter Fjelsten
MAU, On 18-05-2005 19:15, you [M] wrote in : >> Also, it is not updated to use with the new sorting office. M> I'm afraid I don't understand. What does MyGate have to do with S.O.? Subscription: "Copy filter". -- Best regards Peter Fjelsten 3.5 Pro MyGate, AVG

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread MAU
Hello Martin, > I'm using Mailtraq for about two years now and I'm satisfied. I did use MailTraq until I found MyGate. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Cu

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread MAU
Hello Peter, M>> Have you tried MyGate? Simple, transparent... it works a treat. Not M>> for binaries though. I've used for... 2 years? > > Hmm. Does not work 100% always. I am currently having problems. No problems here at all. > Also, it is not updated to use with the new sorting office. I'm

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread Martin Sebald
Hi MAU! >> ... newsreader functionality. > Have you tried MyGate? Simple, transparent... it works a treat. Not for > binaries though. I've used for... 2 years? Yeah I know MyGate but I did not try it yet. I'm using Mailtraq for about two years now and I'm satisfied. Nevertheless I would be more s

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread Peter Fjelsten
MAU, On 18-05-2005 19:02, you [M] wrote in : M> Have you tried MyGate? Simple, transparent... it works a treat. Not M> for binaries though. I've used for... 2 years? Hmm. Does not work 100% always. I am currently having problems. Also, it is not updated to use with the new

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Alto Speckhardt & everyone else, on 18-Mai-2005 at 13:56 you (Alto Speckhardt) wrote: > v3.5 a piece of junk I thought I'd already read you were switching to Mulberry a couple of days ago ("Thats it"), why don't you do that then? Looks like something about this "piece of junk" keeps you us

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Martin! On Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 11:40 AM, you wrote: >> And I concur with your criticism of RitLabs development priorities, in >> the main. But they are the ones with the business plan, and so they >> implement it. > You're absolutly right and I also know that it is like you're saying.

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread MAU
Hello Martin, > ... newsreader functionality. Have you tried MyGate? Simple, transparent... it works a treat. Not for binaries though. I've used for... 2 years? http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mygate/ -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread MAU
Hello Alto, > ... with the delivery of the scandalous v3.5 ... > ... calling v3.5 a piece of junk. Careful my dear, you may be offending the many (yes _MANY_) of us who don't agree with you at all. Da** it! If you hate TB so much, why don't you just change to another e-mail client? Don't bother

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread Martin Sebald
Hi Mary! > And I concur with your criticism of RitLabs development priorities, in > the main. But they are the ones with the business plan, and so they > implement it. You're absolutly right and I also know that it is like you're saying. Ritlabs is the boss here and we can stick with it (the beta

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Alto! On Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 6:56 AM, you wrote: > Different strokes for different folks. Thanks for the eloquent message. Again, as with Martin Sebald, I really do have to take all your words as a means of "blowing off steam." There's room for that here, but for myself, I disagree wi

Re[2]: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi Mary, >> ... doesn't leave much that is working at all, does it? MB> Different strokes for different folks. I do have to disagree with your MB> conclusion, while conceding the validity of your complaints. Almost every component of the program that was fiddled with for v3.5 now shows malfunctio

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-17 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Tue, 17 May 2005 17:02:52 -0500, Mary Bull wrote: >> But with one thing you're absolutly right: Writing about >> things I'm not happy with is a relieve. :-) > Thought so. I think most of the more annoying things are > going to be fixed, in time. Yes. And by that time there will be the new ann

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-17 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Martin! On Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 3:33 PM, you wrote: > But to make one thing clear: TB is still and always THE mail client > for me even if it looks like a giant construction site to me at the > moment. LOL Yes. And, I think, if I may say so, that it's TB!-plus-me that all of us always t

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-17 Thread Martin Sebald
Hi Mary, ah now we are talking about me. ;-) We should talk about TB, not about me. But I don't have a problem with that. See, I'm not experiencing a burn-out syndrome as betatester and I don't feel pain about the bugs I still see in the program. It's more like I'm considering myself useless becau

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-17 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Martin! On Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 1:13 PM, you wrote: > ... And and and... There are so many things not working or not > working correct. I agree that the final version runs and does not > show any AVs (at my place) but the non-showstopper problems and > isues problems which are mentioned a

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-17 Thread Liz
Hi Martin, In the message which was apparently written on Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 7:13:03 PM. I believe you wrote: MS> I do not understand why the MS> subject is changing back to the original subject when I reply to a mail and MS> try to alter the subject and then go with

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-17 Thread Martin Sebald
Hi, take 5 people and you get 5 different opinions. What I was trying to say is that TB 3.5 Beta was not in no way ready for release. There are so many bugs still not fixed. @ Mary and Cees: AVs and stuff like that are showstoppers for me. I was talking about minor things plus things that simply

Re[2]: v3.5 status

2005-05-17 Thread Cees
Het was op dinsdag 17 mei 2005 om 19:21 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'v3.5 status' : Hallo Mary, >> ... doesn't leave much that is working at all, does it? MB> Different strokes for different folks. Nice rhyming, and it ain't even close to Xmas yet.

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-17 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Alto! On Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 11:31 AM, you wrote: > ... doesn't leave much that is working at all, does it? Different strokes for different folks. I do have to disagree with your conclusion, while conceding the validity of your complaints. And in one aspect alone my experience has been

v3.5 status

2005-05-17 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi, MS> great!! Another final version full of long known bugs! I can't MS> wait until we have 4.0 Final, buggy as 3.5 Final but then with an MS> upgrade fee. It's like Microsoft where I also do betatesting. You MS> have a timetable and follow it, regardless of what should be done MS> before releas