Re: Reply numbering

Hello Wayne, On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 08:50:34 -0400 GMT (25/06/03, 19:50 +0700 GMT), Wayne Howard wrote: > Is reply numbering on by default? If so, I think it should not. It > messes up a lot of mail lists. Some readers can't handle it. I think > it is annoying and very unnecessary. I agree. I sugge

Unexpected Behavior of "Known" Filter

I'm using 1.63 Beta 11 with Windows 98. I have the "Known" filter activated, and I have it move "knowns" to a sub-folder of the Inbox, "Inbox\Known". Otherwise, they go to another sub-folder of the Inbox, "Inbox\Unknown". Worked great until I received a spam, in "Inbox\Known",

Detecting HTML Spam

Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 A significant amount of spam is getting past my anti-spam service and the filters in TB Sorting Office. The spam has these characteristics: 1. HTML format 2. Addressed to me (i.e. my address is in the To: field) 3. In the HTML sourc

Re: Detecting HTML Spam

Thursday, June 26, 2003, 8:34:23 AM, Geoff wrote: G> A significant amount of spam is getting past my anti-spam G> service and the filters in TB Sorting Office. Try POPFile: http://popfile.sourceforge.net. From their home page: POPFile is an automatic mail classification tool. Once properly se

Re: Detecting HTML Spam

On Thursday, 26 June 2003, Geoff Lane wrote: GL> Is there a way to detect the HTML comments in a Sorting Office GL> filter? Any reason why you're not using POPFile? I've been getting a few of this type of spam, and POPFile is correctly identifying them all as spam. -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Usin

Re: Detecting HTML Spam

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Geoff, @26-Jun-2003, 13:34 Geoff Lane [GL] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBUDL: GL> If I can find some way of detecting the opening HTML comments GL> (less-than exclamation-mark dash dash), I can use spammy's ploy GL> to get around keyword filt

Re: Detecting HTML Spam

On 26 June 2003, 14:01, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: > TB's filter system won't let you look at attachments in that way, > more's the pity. You could take Mike Apsey's somewhat extreme but > clearly effective recommendation to reject all HTML mail out of > hand. ~~~ I agree -- I'll have to see if I

Re: Detecting HTML Spam

On 26 June 2003, 14:00, Tim wrote: > Any reason why you're not using POPFile? I've been getting a few of > this type of spam, and POPFile is correctly identifying them all as > spam. ~~~ I use another anti-spam filter with very good effect on my server. Currently, I'm dealing with over 300 UCE me

Re: Unexpected Behavior of "Known" Filter

Hello Coyle306, Thursday, June 26, 2003, 6:07:42 AM, you wrote: C> All I could think of was that the spammer's sticking _my_ address in C> the "Reply-To:" and/or the "X-RCPT-TO:" somehow fooled the Known C> filter, since _my_ address was in my address book. C> Sure enough, when I de

Re:Detecting HTML Spam

T> Any reason why you're not using POPFile? I've been getting a few of T> this type of spam, and POPFile is correctly identifying them all as T> spam. There has been some talk about Popfile on this forum, so I thought I would comment. I have given up on Popfile after an unnaceptable number of cruc

Re[2]: Detecting HTML Spam

Thursday, June 26, 2003, 11:39:49 AM, Mark wrote: M> There has been some talk about Popfile on this forum, so I M> thought I would comment. I have given up on Popfile after an M> unnaceptable number of crucial false positives, very slow M> system responses, and a lot of work to train. It's worked

Re:Detecting HTML Spam

M> I thought I would comment. I have given up on Popfile after an M> unnaceptable number of crucial false positives, very slow system M> responses, and a lot of work to train. Well, horses for courses, Mark. All I can say is that POPfile helps my spam mountain enormously. There's no system perfor

Re: Memo data missing

Hi Spike, on Wed, 25 Jun 2003 22:03:39 -0500GMT (26.06.03, 05:03 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MW>> If you're up for living on the edge, check out the repair facility MW>> built into the latest betas. It's repaired some folders that I thought MW>> were unrecoverable (and in

Re: Memo data missing

Hello Peter Meyns, On or about Thursday, June 26, 2003 at 20:15:16GMT +0200 (which was 1:15 PM in the tropics where I live) Peter Meyns posted: S>> nasty beta-bug would be my undoing in more ways than one. PM> How about a regular backup? ;-) PM> I'm using a batch file that Allie Martin wrote, s

Re: Please take me of the list

Hi Richard, on Wed, 25 Jun 2003 12:37:06 +1000GMT (25.06.03, 04:37 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : R> Can you please remove me from this discussion group.. I have found R> my problem but the e-mail traffic clags up my system on a slow rural R> line in Australia. I did t

Re: Memo data missing

Hi Spike, on Thu, 26 Jun 2003 13:40:20 -0500GMT (26.06.03, 20:40 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : PM>> How about a regular backup? ;-) PM>> I'm using a batch file that Allie Martin wrote, saving the complete TB! PM>> directory to a RAR archive. It is much easier to use than t

Re: Memo data missing

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, June 26, 2003, 8:15:16 PM, Peter wrote: > I'm using a batch file that Allie Martin wrote, saving the complete > TB! directory to a RAR archive. It is much easier to use than the Isn't the MAIL directory enough? Domchi --

Re: Saved/quick searches

Hello Steve, Wednesday, June 25, 2003, 11:46:33 AM, you wrote: SH> Hello , SH> Could someone help please? I would like to know if there is a way to SH> save searches, You can save the messages. But you can't save the message list. SH> or perform searches repeatedly with the same SH> set

S/MIME X.509 Thawte Certificate for TB?

Hello TBUDL, I'm signing up for a free X.509 S/MIME Thawte Certificate. During the sign-up process Thawte asks for the type of software. TB is not an option. The options include: Netscape Communicator or Messenger Microsoft Internet Explorer, Outlook and Outlook Express Lotus Notes R5 Oper

Re: S/MIME X.509 Thawte Certificate for TB?

Hello All, On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, at 14:36:52 GMT -0500 (6/26/2003, 2:36 PM -0500 GMT here), Greg wrote in : > I chose MS IE, Outlook & Outlook Express. Am I going to be able to use > this with TB? I should add the default is "Microsoft Enhanced Cryptographic Provider v1.0"

Re: Memo data missing

Hi Domagoj, on Thu, 26 Jun 2003 21:27:31 +0200GMT (26.06.03, 21:27 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : DK> Isn't the MAIL directory enough? I don't think so. Of course, it's the most crucial one for preserving your messages, but relevant parts of the folder structure are stored

Re: S/MIME X.509 Thawte Certificate for TB?

Hello Greg, Thursday, June 26, 2003, 2:03:59 PM, you wrote: GS> I should add the default is "Microsoft Enhanced Cryptographic GS> Provider v1.0" with many other choices. GS> After looking at Options | S/MIME | selecting Microsoft CryptoAPI GS> I can choose "Microsoft Enhanced Cryptographic Provid

Re[2]: Detecting HTML Spam

Hello Geoff, Thursday, June 26, 2003, 3:09:54 PM, you wrote: GL> Perhaps I'll look at POPFile -- but I have enough already in the chain GL> between the outside World and my inbox and would rather tackle this GL> irritation in TB if possible. I'm a newbie to this spam filtering lark, but I h

Re: S/MIME X.509 Thawte Certificate for TB?

Hello Leif, On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, at 14:16:17 GMT -0600 (6/26/2003, 3:16 PM -0500 GMT here), you wrote in : > This is in the FAQ. It'll tell you exactly what you need to do. > http://www.mindquake.com.br/thebat/ Thanks! Amazing. It looks like I did everything correct up to

Re: S/MIME X.509 Thawte Certificate for TB?

Hello Greg, Thursday, June 26, 2003, 3:29:28 PM, you wrote: GS> Thanks! Amazing. It looks like I did everything correct up to the GS> point of receiving the certificate from Thawte without looking at GS> the FAQ. Once I get it to work I'll have to see about adding email GS> addresses. Thanks again

Re: Saved/quick searches

Hello Steve, On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 15:16:33 +0100 GMT (25/06/03, 21:16 +0700 GMT), Steve Hill wrote: > Could someone help please? I would like to know if there is a way to > save searches, or perform searches repeatedly with the same > settings. You cannot save search results or settings. I

Unexpected Behavior of "Known" Filter

MM> Hmmm ... what should not work which way? It seems to me that if an MM> email is received with a 'from address' that is in your address MM> book it should be sent to the 'known' box. Just out of curiosity MM> ... what would you expect to work differently? No. That's my point, it _wasn't_

Re: Detecting HTML Spam

I'm a newbie to this spam filtering lark, but I have been trying 'K9' In spite of my ignorance I have found this very easy to set up and understand and it is catching nearly all unwanted mail. Took me about 5 days to 'train' effectively. I also recently got K9, downloaded an

Re: Detecting HTML Spam

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, June 26, 2003, Staffan Enbom wrote... > [..] Not to forget that my ISP uses Spamassassin which I think is a > bit misconfigured because it lets through a lot... I've been running SA for a while... and more recently (no config changes) mo

Re: Unexpected Behavior of "Known" Filter

On Thu 26-Jun-03 6:13pm -0400, Coyle306 wrote: > Quoting from the Sorting Office window: "The Known filter allows you > to separate incoming mail by the presence of the _sender's address_ in > your address book" (My emphasis) Right - notice that it does not say "From" address - it says "Sender"

Re: S/MIME X.509 Thawte Certificate for TB?

Hello Leif, On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, at 15:32:21 GMT -0600 (6/26/2003, 4:32 PM -0500 GMT here), you wrote in : > I think it's a bit dated (not sure), but it still works. I'll let you know. How long did it take to get the email notification from Thawte? ,- [ Per email from

Re: Detecting HTML Spam

Isn't there an add on for The Bat for filtering? Has anyone used it? Is it available? -Francis. > I also recently got K9, downloaded and fed it 500 megs of spam along > with all my old emails, and let it digest it all for a while. Now it > filters out the spam quite effectively! I've got it c

Problem with drag a msg as attachment with TB 1.63 Beta 11

Hi pals, I'm now using TB! v1.63 Beta/11, just noticed a problem with dragging a message into the editor window as attachment. If I choose the format as "Plain Text(Windows)", I can't drag a message directly to the editor window as attachment, but I can surely do it while choosing "Plain Text(

Re: Problem with drag a msg as attachment with TB 1.63 Beta 11

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, June 26, 2003, Joe Lee wrote... > I'm now using TB! v1.63 Beta/11, just noticed a problem with > dragging a message into the editor window as attachment. Surely this should be to the beta list? > If I choose the format as "Plain Text(Wi

Spammers Using "TheBat"

I recieved my first Spam today where the mailer was "TheBat" I Hate spammers!!! Here is a copy of the mail, with full headers if anyone would like to see it: X-POPFile-TimeoutPrevention: 0 X-POPFile-TimeoutPrevention: 1 Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qm

Re:Problem with drag a msg as attachment with TB 1.63 Beta 11

Hi Jonathan, On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, at 22:41:30 [GMT -0500] (which was 11:41 where I live) you wrote: JA> Surely this should be to the beta list? Ah-Oh :) Seems I get in the wrong room. >> If I choose the format as "Plain Text(Windows)", I can't drag a >> message directly to the editor window as

Re: Spammers Using "TheBat"

Hello John, On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, at 22:42:59 GMT -0500 (6/26/2003, 10:42 PM -0500 GMT here), you wrote in : > I recieved my first Spam today where the mailer was "TheBat" > I Hate spammers!!! > Here is a copy of the mail, with full headers if anyone would like to see it: S

Re: Spammers Using "TheBat"

> X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.52f) Business That is a faked header produced by the Advanced Mass Sender (AMS) by Max Terentiev. This spamware offers four different X-Mailer lines: Advanced Mass Sender Outlook Express 4.72 X-Mailer The Bat! (v1.52f) Business / St ___

Re: Spammers Using "TheBat"

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, June 26, 2003, John Morse wrote... > I recieved my first Spam today where the mailer was "TheBat" > I Hate spammers!!! > Here is a copy of the mail, with full headers if anyone would like to see it: [..] > X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.52f) Bus

Re[2]: Spammers Using "TheBat"

Hello Greg, you wrote: > ,- [ Per http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/spammer.html ] > | There are clues that make it obvious that the spam message didn't come > | from The Bat!. For one thing, it has an "X-MSMail-Priority: Normal" > | header. The Bat! doesn't use this. > `- > ,- [ 4 line f

Re[2]: Spammers Using "TheBat"

Hello St, you wrote: > That is a faked header produced by the Advanced Mass Sender (AMS) by Max Terentiev. > This spamware offers four different X-Mailer lines: Is this software legal? if it is, it shouldn't be. I use PopFile to help control spam, would you believe that 80% of the messages I

Re: Spammers Using "TheBat"

Dear Jonathan, --->>> Jonathan Angliss / Freitag, 27.06.2003, 05:58:00 Spammers Using "TheBat" >> X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.52f) Business >> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > [...] it was a fake email, they attempted to mask a spammer program > as TheBat, and it has caused a 'bad name' to be sp

Re: [bat] Re: Unexpected Behavior of "Known" Filter

On Thursday, June 26, 2003 7:54 PM, Bill wrote: BM> I don't like the Know filter at all and don't use it because of its BM> bugs on replying from Inbox-Known. What bugs? Dave Kennedy Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://w

Re: Unexpected Behavior of "Known" Filter

Coyle306- Thursday, June 26, 2003, 3:13:24 PM, you wrote: C> spammer had inserted _my address_, which _is_ in my address book. Of course, at this point I suppose I should bring up the question of why your own address is in your address book? If it weren't then the correct filtering event would

Re: Unexpected Behavior of "Known" Filter

Hello Mark, Thursday, June 26, 2003, 11:34:52 PM, you wrote: MW> Of course, at this point I suppose I should bring up the question of MW> why your own address is in your address book? If it weren't then the MW> correct filtering event would have occurred... well I have to admit i send stuff to

still problem with TB cleaning up when shutting down

Hallo Fledermäuse, I still have this problem with TB getting stuck when cleaning the folders at shut-down. It's not happening on my user (Win XP, two users), it's on my girlfriends side (which makes it worse since she is screaming at me to fix it LOL). When she shuts down, TB says it's cleaning up

Re: still problem with TB cleaning up when shutting down

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, June 27, 2003, Jurgen Haug wrote... > I still have this problem with TB getting stuck when cleaning the > folders at shut-down. It's not happening on my user (Win XP, two > users), it's on my girlfriends side (which makes it worse since she