OT: Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls

2003-09-16 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello DG, DRS Takes a matter of seconds to install a dropper on any system. DRS Come back on-line with the same IP or stay on-line long enough DRS and the hacker is on your dime, time and system. While a good topic, it's OT for TBUDL, it's been CC'd to TBOT. moderator Note: This moderator's

Re: Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls

2003-09-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jonathan, On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 19:00:34 -0500 GMT (14/09/2003, 07:00 +0700 GMT), Jonathan Angliss wrote: CT I can tell you that it doesn't make a jot of difference how they CT connect Assuming they click on a mail attachment, this is independent of dial-up or LAN connection. I agree with

Re:Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls

2003-09-13 Thread Clive Taylor
Hi Vishal, You don't stay online very long: This is the primary reason DSL/Cable users are at risk. If you're online for a long time you become a much more attractive target. You couldn't be more wrong, Vishal. I provide support and training for home-based PC users, 95% of whom are on

Re[2]: Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls

2003-09-13 Thread Vishal
Hi Clive Saturday, September 13, 2003, 3:12:55 AM, you wrote: CT Hi Vishal, You don't stay online very long: This is the primary reason DSL/Cable users are at risk. If you're online for a long time you become a much more attractive target. CT You couldn't be more wrong, Vishal. Not at

Re: Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls

2003-09-13 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Vishal, On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 04:34:56 -0400 GMT (13/09/2003, 15:34 +0700 GMT), Vishal wrote: Not at all. My point above was that the elevated risk to broadband users, as compared to dialup, comes from the increased time and static IP address that make them more attractive targets. That

Re: Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls

2003-09-13 Thread Carsten Thönges
* Thomas Fernandez writes: The IP address is crucial for entering a computer. A dial-up user, who isn't online very long and gets dynamic IP adresses, is therefore less interesting. You could see it just the other way: dial-up users are people with a poorly configured

Re: Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls

2003-09-13 Thread Jonathan Angliss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, September 13, 2003, Thomas Fernandez wrote... I agree with this. The IP address is crucial for entering a computer. A dial-up user, who isn't online very long and gets dynamic IP adresses, is therefore less interesting. I now think

Re[2]: Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls

2003-09-13 Thread DG Raftery Sr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saturday, September 13, 2003 7:54:38 PM (GMT -05:00) RE: Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls Greetings Carsten, On Saturday, September 13, 2003, 3:45:58 PM, you wrote: I now think this was Carsten's point when he

Re[2]: Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls

2003-09-13 Thread Richard H. Stoddard
Carsten, Sunday, September 14, 2003, 12:45:58 AM, you wrote: CT * Thomas Fernandez writes: CT You could see it just the other way: dial-up users are people with a CT poorly configured OS', many of them don't even know what a Service CT Pack or Security Update is. Some of us are stuck with

Re: Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls

2003-09-12 Thread Carsten Thönges
* malexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just a point I wanted to make as I've seen one or two comments where people have said with The Bat, and with dial-up, they don't need a firewall. How do you define »firewall«? I assume you mean host based packet filters. Just a point I wanted to make

Re: Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls

2003-09-12 Thread Alexander
12-Sep-2003 20:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You forgot to explain *how* someone »grabs a port and does some damage«. I use a notebook and dial-up connections to the internet. Please tell my why *I* need a software like Outpost to be safe. Blaster/LovSan tells you. -- Best regards,

Re: Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls

2003-09-12 Thread malexander
Hello Alexander, Friday, September 12, 2003, 8:44:17 PM, you wrote: A 12-Sep-2003 20:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You forgot to explain *how* someone »grabs a port and does some damage«. I use a notebook and dial-up connections to the internet. Please tell my why *I* need a software like

Re: Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls

2003-09-12 Thread Vishal
Hi malexander Thursday, September 11, 2003, 10:58:32 PM, you wrote: m Hi m Just a point I wanted to make as I've seen one or two comments where m people have said with The Bat, and with dial-up, they don't need a m firewall. I made a comment to that effect..that if these firewall problems went

Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls

2003-09-11 Thread malexander
Hi Just a point I wanted to make as I've seen one or two comments where people have said with The Bat, and with dial-up, they don't need a firewall. Sorry, but you're leaving yourself open if you don't use at least a software firewall, even with a dial-up. I have dial-up ISDN, and anyone who

Desktop firewalls (was: NOT running slow anymore)

2003-01-19 Thread Carsten Thönges
* Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Carsten, [ personal firewalls ] Who attacks your PC and how? I can easily attack your pc starting at this very moment... Please attack me, Victor. Try it as hard as you can. And please explain us how a personal firewall could prevent me

Re: Desktop firewalls (was: NOT running slow anymore)

2003-01-19 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Carsten, On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 17:47:24 +0100GMT (19-1-03, 17:47 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: CT Victor, no, no and no. I am not influencing anyone. I am asking CT you again: please describe a case in which a personal firewall CT protects you from being hacked. It might be more a

Re: Desktop firewalls (was: NOT running slow anymore)

2003-01-19 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Roelof Otten [RO] wrote:' RO It might be more a legal issue than something else. In the Netherlands RO it's not illegal to hack somebody's computer when he hasn't taken any RO precautions. That's about the

Firewalls compatible with The Bat. Was: Question

2002-07-31 Thread Avram Sacks
Hi, Sudip. On 7/22/02 at 8:18 p.m. you wrote: I used ZA but after it started screwing things in TB!, I removed it. After much searching and many trials, I've come to settle on Agnitum Outpost Pro Firewall. Have no problem with it so far. There's also a freeware version available. Do you know

Re: Firewalls compatible with The Bat. Was: Question

2002-07-31 Thread Sudip Pokhrel
AS She didn't comment about Outpost however Well, it works perfectly for me. I think BlackICE is also nice, but it was missing few features, namely ad active content blocking, that Outpost has. For full listing of Outpost's feature and to compare it with other firewalls, follow the Agnitum

Re: Firewalls compatible with The Bat. Was: Question

2002-07-31 Thread Erik Janssen
Hi Sudip, Avram, I use Zone Alarm Pro (as fas as I know the latest version) and do _not_ have any problems that I am aware of. My OS is Windows XP Professional and I am using McAfee Total Virus Defence with it (also without _any_ problems). What I do remember (you are also referring to that) is

Re: Firewalls compatible with The Bat. Was: Question

2002-07-31 Thread Thomas F.
Hello Erik, On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:51:11 +0200 (MEST) GMT (31/07/02, 16:51 +0700 GMT), Erik Janssen wrote: EJ What I do remember (you are also referring to that) is some renaming EJ of attachments (the file extentions). When I disabled the Mail-Safe EJ settings everything worked fine at my

Re: Firewalls compatible with The Bat. Was: Question

2002-07-31 Thread Jonathan Angliss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, July 31, 2002, Thomas F. wrote... Pardon me for being ignorant, but was does this Mail-Safe function in ZA do? What I can figure from the list, it changes attachment names, so that they cannot be opened any more. May make sense for

Re: Firewalls compatible with The Bat. Was: Question

2002-07-31 Thread Erik Janssen
Hello Thomas, TF Pardon me for being ignorant, but was does this Mail-Safe function in TF ZA do? What I can figure from the list, it changes attachment names, TF so that they cannot be opened any more. May make sense for OE/OL TF users, but then, how do *they* open attachments at all? TF Is it

Re: Firewalls compatible with The Bat. Was: Question

2002-07-31 Thread ETM
When using ZA, disabling Mail-Safe is essential to avoid the renaming of executable attachments. I have never had a problem renaming them so I could run an AV scan and then open them. Elaine Hello Erik On Wednesday, July 31, 2002, you wrote What I do remember (you are also referring to

Re: Firewalls compatible with The Bat. Was: Question

2002-07-31 Thread ETM
It is a optional feature of ZA and does not have to be used. It changes the file extension to an easily-identified ZA file extension and the attachment can be renamed and opened. Simply unchecking the option eliminates the feature. Elaine Hello Thomas On Wednesday, July 31, 2002, you wrote

Re: Firewalls compatible with The Bat. Was: Question

2002-07-31 Thread Avram Sacks
a feature that is supposed to automatically detect any and all attachments to an e-mail, whether apparent or not, in order for ZA to work for Bat users? Isn't that a pain? What about other firewalls? What do they do with attachments? Isn't disabling the feature defeating the purpose

Re: Firewalls compatible with The Bat. Was: Question

2002-07-31 Thread ETM
, whether apparent or not, in order for ZA to work for Bat users? Isn't that a pain? What about other firewalls? What do they do with attachments? Isn't disabling the feature defeating the purpose of the firewall? Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ

Re: Firewalls compatible with The Bat. Was: Question

2002-07-31 Thread Sudip Pokhrel
Hi Avram, On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:50:28 -0500 GMT (Aug 01, 03:35 my local time), you [AS] wrote AS Isn't disabling the feature defeating the purpose of the firewall? If you have an AV package with up to date definition and its set up to scan incoming mail, this feature is absolutely redundant.

Re: Firewalls compatible with The Bat. Was: Question

2002-07-31 Thread Thomas F.
Hello Erik, On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:54:59 +0200 (MEST) GMT (01/08/02, 03:54 +0700 GMT), Erik Janssen wrote: TF Is it the job of this firewall to make attachments useless? EJ According to the help-file of ZA it should do the following: EJ (sorry for the gigantic message!) We might have to move

Re: Firewalls compatible with The Bat. Was: Question

2002-07-31 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas F. [TF] wrote: TF We might have to move this to TBOT soon. But thanks for the info. . TF (Has ZoneLabs been bought by Microsoft, or why do they write such a TF nonsense?) moderator

Re: Firewalls that don't interfere with TB. Was: Question

2002-07-30 Thread William Moore
Hello Thomas Thank you for your email dated Tuesday, July 30, 2002, 6:13:34 AM, in which you wrote: TF Sygate decided that all ports are in order. Only if *you* decide they are. The advanced settings let you choose. The default setting is 'all' ports. TF Calling home? Why? What info is being

Firewalls that don't interfere with TB. Was: Question

2002-07-29 Thread Avram_Sacks
versions. I've used both without any system problems and have been a participated in their user groups. and added at 08:01 PM: Most software firewalls today monitor both incoming and outgoing connections. Kerio Personal Firewall Sygate Personal Firewall BlackICE Defender (v3.x ) Outpost Personal

Re: Firewalls that don't interfere with TB. Was: Question

2002-07-29 Thread Lynn Turriff
Monday, July 29, 2002, 12:01:25 PM, you wrote: On the subject of firewalls, I'm using the Wingate (v4.x) firewall (which doesn't interfere with TB), but I have no clue how reliable it is. Anybody know? I don't know any way to test it, other than Steve Gibsons port prober, which says it's cool

Re[2]: Firewalls that don't interfere with TB. Was: Question

2002-07-29 Thread Michael Thompson
Hello Lynn, Monday, July 29, 2002, 9:01:43 PM, you wrote: LT Monday, July 29, 2002, 12:01:25 PM, you wrote: LT On the subject of firewalls, I'm using the Wingate (v4.x) LT firewall (which doesn't interfere with TB), but I have no LT clue how reliable it is. LT Anybody know? I don't know any

Re: Firewalls that don't interfere with TB. Was: Question

2002-07-29 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Avram_Sacks [AS] wrote: AS Zone Alarm and Black Ice are the only firewalls that have been AS recommended on a law office technology list I participate in. AS Assuming ZA is out and th

Re: Firewalls that don't interfere with TB. Was: Question

2002-07-29 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Monday, July 29, 2002, 3:08:07 PM, Allie C Martin wrote: Kerio Personal Firewall is the most configurable, but the one with the greatest demand on the user in terms of knowledge. To me, this statement makes it sound like it requires a lot. It didn't seem like much work to me. Just have to

Re: Firewalls that don't interfere with TB. Was: Question

2002-07-29 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Dwight A Corrin [DAC] wrote: DAC To me, this statement makes it sound like it requires a lot. It DAC didn't seem like much work to me. Just have to tick a box which DAC says make a rule, then say

Re[2]: Firewalls that don't interfere with TB. Was: Question

2002-07-29 Thread Pete Milne
Replying to your message of Monday, July 29, 2002, 2:08:07 PM: On another, another note...I use BBIagent's (www.bbiagent.net) firewall which runs off of a floppy on a gateway machine. It uses iptables and is quite configurable provided you know a little bit about firewalls. -- Pete

Re: Re[2]: Firewalls that don't interfere with TB. Was: Question

2002-07-29 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On Mon, 2002-07-29 at 21:45, Pete Milne wrote: On another, another note...I use BBIagent's (www.bbiagent.net) firewall which runs off of a floppy on a gateway machine. It uses iptables and is quite configurable provided you know a little bit about firewalls. And a general understanding

Re: Firewalls that don't interfere with TB. Was: Question

2002-07-29 Thread Thomas F.
Hello Avram, On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:01:25 -0500 GMT (30/07/02, 02:01 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Acc Zone Alarm and Black Ice are the only firewalls that have been recommended on a Acc law office technology list I participate in. Why are the lawyers not recommending the otehrs? Were

Re: Firewalls that don't interfere with TB. Was: Question

2002-07-29 Thread Clive Taylor
29 July 2002, 21:01, you wrote: LT Anybody know? I don't know any way to test it, other than LT Steve Gibsons port prober, which says it's cool ... PCflank has a range of tests at http://www.pcflank.com -- Clive Taylor Current Ver:

Re: Firewalls that don't interfere with TB. Was: Question

2002-07-29 Thread Thomas F.
Hello Clive, On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 06:25:06 +0100 GMT (30/07/02, 12:25 +0700 GMT), Clive Taylor wrote: LT Anybody know? I don't know any way to test it, other than LT Steve Gibsons port prober, which says it's cool ... Tested my firewall on Norton, which says I am fine. (GRC keeps saying the

Re: Firewalls

2001-09-21 Thread Jeff
On Tuesday, September 18, 2001, Douglas Hinds wrote: I use the atGuard firewall and have been getting a high number of inbound TCP network communications to http port 80, with no application being identified as the source. 'Tis a worm, my friend, doing it's best to bring the Internet to it's