[Texascavers] Antivirus suggestions for TSS computers

2011-04-26 Thread Rod Goke
I have a question for any of you who are knowledgeable about computer antivirus/anti-malware software. The question is "cave related" in that it deals with the special needs of our TSS computers, which are somewhat different from those of most home and business computers, because the TSS computers

[Texascavers] Antivirus suggestions for TSS computers

2011-04-26 Thread Rod Goke
I have a question for any of you who are knowledgeable about computer antivirus/anti-malware software. The question is "cave related" in that it deals with the special needs of our TSS computers, which are somewhat different from those of most home and business computers, because the TSS computers

[Texascavers] Antivirus suggestions for TSS computers

2011-04-26 Thread Rod Goke
I have a question for any of you who are knowledgeable about computer antivirus/anti-malware software. The question is "cave related" in that it deals with the special needs of our TSS computers, which are somewhat different from those of most home and business computers, because the TSS computers

[Texascavers] Cave of the Winds' Wind Walker Challenge Course :

2011-04-26 Thread JerryAtkin
In an effort to attract a bit more visitation, many commercial caves are adding new "thrill" attractions such as extreme wild caving tours, dinner theatres, sluicing for gems, rappelling, climbing walls, etc... Taking advantage of their cliff-side perch, Colorado's Cave of the Winds has adde

[Texascavers] Cave of the Winds' Wind Walker Challenge Course :

2011-04-26 Thread JerryAtkin
In an effort to attract a bit more visitation, many commercial caves are adding new "thrill" attractions such as extreme wild caving tours, dinner theatres, sluicing for gems, rappelling, climbing walls, etc... Taking advantage of their cliff-side perch, Colorado's Cave of the Winds has adde

[Texascavers] Cave of the Winds' Wind Walker Challenge Course :

2011-04-26 Thread JerryAtkin
In an effort to attract a bit more visitation, many commercial caves are adding new "thrill" attractions such as extreme wild caving tours, dinner theatres, sluicing for gems, rappelling, climbing walls, etc... Taking advantage of their cliff-side perch, Colorado's Cave of the Winds has adde

[Texascavers] Re: Helmet

2011-04-26 Thread Mark Minton
This is really just a discussion of which helmet people prefer. The Sten Light has a standard flat blade, so it will mount on any helmet that has a lamp bracket or other means for mounting a caving lamp. Mark Minton At 06:35 PM 4/26/2011, Andy Zenker wrote: I put my sten on both an E

[Texascavers] Re: Helmet

2011-04-26 Thread Mark Minton
This is really just a discussion of which helmet people prefer. The Sten Light has a standard flat blade, so it will mount on any helmet that has a lamp bracket or other means for mounting a caving lamp. Mark Minton At 06:35 PM 4/26/2011, Andy Zenker wrote: I put my sten on both an E

[Texascavers] Re: Helmet

2011-04-26 Thread Mark Minton
This is really just a discussion of which helmet people prefer. The Sten Light has a standard flat blade, so it will mount on any helmet that has a lamp bracket or other means for mounting a caving lamp. Mark Minton At 06:35 PM 4/26/2011, Andy Zenker wrote: I put my sten on both an E

Re: [Texascavers] Helmet

2011-04-26 Thread Andy Zenker
I put my sten on both an Ecrin Rock (I use for large and vertical caves) and a Petzl Elios (I use for tight and crawly caves). In both cases, I've used a metal or plastic strap mounted on the helmet to slip the light into with an elastic band to keep it there. This gets me that extra half inch of

Re: [Texascavers] Helmet

2011-04-26 Thread Andy Zenker
I put my sten on both an Ecrin Rock (I use for large and vertical caves) and a Petzl Elios (I use for tight and crawly caves). In both cases, I've used a metal or plastic strap mounted on the helmet to slip the light into with an elastic band to keep it there. This gets me that extra half inch of

Re: [Texascavers] Helmet

2011-04-26 Thread Andy Zenker
I put my sten on both an Ecrin Rock (I use for large and vertical caves) and a Petzl Elios (I use for tight and crawly caves). In both cases, I've used a metal or plastic strap mounted on the helmet to slip the light into with an elastic band to keep it there. This gets me that extra half inch of

[Texascavers] Setting Pond party date

2011-04-26 Thread pstrickland1
I am considering June 11th as the date of the Pond Party. Crash said there will not be a Colorado Bend trip that weekend and he took it off the calendar on "utgrotto.org" Anyone who knows of a major caver conflict with that date, please contact me immediately. Pete Strickland (c) 512-897-92

[Texascavers] Setting Pond party date

2011-04-26 Thread pstrickland1
I am considering June 11th as the date of the Pond Party. Crash said there will not be a Colorado Bend trip that weekend and he took it off the calendar on "utgrotto.org" Anyone who knows of a major caver conflict with that date, please contact me immediately. Pete Strickland (c) 512-897-92

[Texascavers] Setting Pond party date

2011-04-26 Thread pstrickland1
I am considering June 11th as the date of the Pond Party. Crash said there will not be a Colorado Bend trip that weekend and he took it off the calendar on "utgrotto.org" Anyone who knows of a major caver conflict with that date, please contact me immediately. Pete Strickland (c) 512-897-92

[Texascavers] Re: TV show featuring a cave with Maya wall ??

2011-04-26 Thread Mark Minton
If you have Google Toolbar installed, you can easily get Google to automatically translate Danish to English for you. It's a machine translation, of course, but in this case it's mostly pretty readable. Mark Minton At 01:32 PM 4/26/2011, Allan Cobb w

[Texascavers] Re: TV show featuring a cave with Maya wall ??

2011-04-26 Thread Mark Minton
If you have Google Toolbar installed, you can easily get Google to automatically translate Danish to English for you. It's a machine translation, of course, but in this case it's mostly pretty readable. Mark Minton At 01:32 PM 4/26/2011, Allan Cobb w

[Texascavers] Re: TV show featuring a cave with Maya wall ??

2011-04-26 Thread Mark Minton
If you have Google Toolbar installed, you can easily get Google to automatically translate Danish to English for you. It's a machine translation, of course, but in this case it's mostly pretty readable. Mark Minton At 01:32 PM 4/26/2011, Allan Cobb w

Re: [Texascavers] Helmet

2011-04-26 Thread Fofo
Yup, I second the Ecrin Roc. I've seen people trying out the newer styles of helmets and in the end getting back to Ecrin Rocs. They're very good helmets, and comfortable. - Fofo On 26/04/11 14:13, Andy Gluesenkamp wrote: Ecrin Roc. You'll need to trim/sand down the angle on the plastic

Re: [Texascavers] Helmet

2011-04-26 Thread Fofo
Yup, I second the Ecrin Roc. I've seen people trying out the newer styles of helmets and in the end getting back to Ecrin Rocs. They're very good helmets, and comfortable. - Fofo On 26/04/11 14:13, Andy Gluesenkamp wrote: Ecrin Roc. You'll need to trim/sand down the angle on the plastic

Re: [Texascavers] Helmet

2011-04-26 Thread Fofo
Yup, I second the Ecrin Roc. I've seen people trying out the newer styles of helmets and in the end getting back to Ecrin Rocs. They're very good helmets, and comfortable. - Fofo On 26/04/11 14:13, Andy Gluesenkamp wrote: Ecrin Roc. You'll need to trim/sand down the angle on the plastic

Re: [Texascavers] Helmet

2011-04-26 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
Ecrin Roc.  You'll need to trim/sand down the angle on the plastic mounting bracket to fit the curve on the front of the helmet.  This is true with many helmets.  I like the ERoc because I can feed the wires from the battery through the vent holes and clips and then out to the light.  It reduces

Re: [Texascavers] Helmet

2011-04-26 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
Ecrin Roc.  You'll need to trim/sand down the angle on the plastic mounting bracket to fit the curve on the front of the helmet.  This is true with many helmets.  I like the ERoc because I can feed the wires from the battery through the vent holes and clips and then out to the light.  It reduces

Re: [Texascavers] Helmet

2011-04-26 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
Ecrin Roc.  You'll need to trim/sand down the angle on the plastic mounting bracket to fit the curve on the front of the helmet.  This is true with many helmets.  I like the ERoc because I can feed the wires from the battery through the vent holes and clips and then out to the light.  It reduces

[Texascavers] Re: recent discussion on caving

2011-04-26 Thread David
In a perfect Utopian world or vacuum, it might be easier to plan and coordinate a caving trip and invite other cavers. But there are realities that prevent this in the real caving world - especially in Texas. Sometimes there are spur of the moment trips, that fall into place because the leader's

[Texascavers] Re: recent discussion on caving

2011-04-26 Thread David
In a perfect Utopian world or vacuum, it might be easier to plan and coordinate a caving trip and invite other cavers. But there are realities that prevent this in the real caving world - especially in Texas. Sometimes there are spur of the moment trips, that fall into place because the leader's

[Texascavers] Re: recent discussion on caving

2011-04-26 Thread David
In a perfect Utopian world or vacuum, it might be easier to plan and coordinate a caving trip and invite other cavers. But there are realities that prevent this in the real caving world - especially in Texas. Sometimes there are spur of the moment trips, that fall into place because the leader's

[Texascavers] Helmet

2011-04-26 Thread Floyd Hebert
I was going to ask everyone what caving helmet to get, but I thought that might be to vague. So, I'll ask it this way: What helmet would you mount a Stenlight on? Thanks, Floyd

[Texascavers] Helmet

2011-04-26 Thread Floyd Hebert
I was going to ask everyone what caving helmet to get, but I thought that might be to vague. So, I'll ask it this way: What helmet would you mount a Stenlight on? Thanks, Floyd

[Texascavers] Helmet

2011-04-26 Thread Floyd Hebert
I was going to ask everyone what caving helmet to get, but I thought that might be to vague. So, I'll ask it this way: What helmet would you mount a Stenlight on? Thanks, Floyd

[Texascavers] North Florida Trip Report/Haiku

2011-04-26 Thread michael david
Cora and I had a friend die this year in Tank Cave. We had to go to Rock Bluff where she spent lots of time exploring to make peace. We miss Agnes and love her cave, we'll be spending lots of time in there. I wrote a trip report haiku for a cave forumhere it is with the video we took this trip

[Texascavers] North Florida Trip Report/Haiku

2011-04-26 Thread michael david
Cora and I had a friend die this year in Tank Cave. We had to go to Rock Bluff where she spent lots of time exploring to make peace. We miss Agnes and love her cave, we'll be spending lots of time in there. I wrote a trip report haiku for a cave forumhere it is with the video we took this trip

[Texascavers] North Florida Trip Report/Haiku

2011-04-26 Thread michael david
Cora and I had a friend die this year in Tank Cave. We had to go to Rock Bluff where she spent lots of time exploring to make peace. We miss Agnes and love her cave, we'll be spending lots of time in there. I wrote a trip report haiku for a cave forumhere it is with the video we took this trip

texascavers Digest 26 Apr 2011 17:30:24 -0000 Issue 1299

2011-04-26 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 26 Apr 2011 17:30:24 - Issue 1299 Topics (messages 17667 through 17670): Interesting Article 17667 by: Mark Minton Re: Ask Not What You Can Do For The TSA... 17668 by: Fritz Holt TV show featuring a cave with Maya wall ?? 17669 by: Mixon Bill

texascavers Digest 26 Apr 2011 17:30:24 -0000 Issue 1299

2011-04-26 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 26 Apr 2011 17:30:24 - Issue 1299 Topics (messages 17667 through 17670): Interesting Article 17667 by: Mark Minton Re: Ask Not What You Can Do For The TSA... 17668 by: Fritz Holt TV show featuring a cave with Maya wall ?? 17669 by: Mixon Bill

texascavers Digest 26 Apr 2011 17:30:24 -0000 Issue 1299

2011-04-26 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 26 Apr 2011 17:30:24 - Issue 1299 Topics (messages 17667 through 17670): Interesting Article 17667 by: Mark Minton Re: Ask Not What You Can Do For The TSA... 17668 by: Fritz Holt TV show featuring a cave with Maya wall ?? 17669 by: Mixon Bill

Re: [Texascavers] TV show featuring a cave with Maya wall ??

2011-04-26 Thread Allan Cobb
In 2001, I was on a project to "open a wall in a Maya cave to discover the secrets that were hidden behind it" that was chronicled by Danish TV and newspaper through the DK Explorer. Unfortunately, we were not able to get permission from the village to enter the cave. It added lots of drama as

Re: [Texascavers] TV show featuring a cave with Maya wall ??

2011-04-26 Thread Allan Cobb
In 2001, I was on a project to "open a wall in a Maya cave to discover the secrets that were hidden behind it" that was chronicled by Danish TV and newspaper through the DK Explorer. Unfortunately, we were not able to get permission from the village to enter the cave. It added lots of drama as

Re: [Texascavers] TV show featuring a cave with Maya wall ??

2011-04-26 Thread Allan Cobb
In 2001, I was on a project to "open a wall in a Maya cave to discover the secrets that were hidden behind it" that was chronicled by Danish TV and newspaper through the DK Explorer. Unfortunately, we were not able to get permission from the village to enter the cave. It added lots of drama as

[Texascavers] TV show featuring a cave with Maya wall ??

2011-04-26 Thread Mixon Bill
The AMCS has received the following query about a cave with an ancient Maya wall that was featured in a (Russian, I assume) TV show. I have replied that I have no idea which cave that might have been, and I included a PDF attachment of the article on Balancanche from AMCS Activites Newslett

[Texascavers] TV show featuring a cave with Maya wall ??

2011-04-26 Thread Mixon Bill
The AMCS has received the following query about a cave with an ancient Maya wall that was featured in a (Russian, I assume) TV show. I have replied that I have no idea which cave that might have been, and I included a PDF attachment of the article on Balancanche from AMCS Activites Newslett

[Texascavers] TV show featuring a cave with Maya wall ??

2011-04-26 Thread Mixon Bill
The AMCS has received the following query about a cave with an ancient Maya wall that was featured in a (Russian, I assume) TV show. I have replied that I have no idea which cave that might have been, and I included a PDF attachment of the article on Balancanche from AMCS Activites Newslett

RE: [Texascavers] Ask Not What You Can Do For The TSA...

2011-04-26 Thread Fritz Holt
For more help to get the work done on those one or two person projects, the trip leader should have an idea of who might come to get down and dirty and not just for the party afterwards. They could invite a select few, possibly a dozen, and six or eight might show up. The leader could then see w

RE: [Texascavers] Ask Not What You Can Do For The TSA...

2011-04-26 Thread Fritz Holt
For more help to get the work done on those one or two person projects, the trip leader should have an idea of who might come to get down and dirty and not just for the party afterwards. They could invite a select few, possibly a dozen, and six or eight might show up. The leader could then see w

RE: [Texascavers] Ask Not What You Can Do For The TSA...

2011-04-26 Thread Fritz Holt
For more help to get the work done on those one or two person projects, the trip leader should have an idea of who might come to get down and dirty and not just for the party afterwards. They could invite a select few, possibly a dozen, and six or eight might show up. The leader could then see w

[Texascavers] RE: Ask Not What You Can Do For The TSA...

2011-04-26 Thread Jim Kennedy
Digs are always a great idea, provided they are done right and with landowner permission. Jim Kennedy, TSS Office Manager and Director From: caverarch [mailto:cavera...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:18 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: texascav...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [

[Texascavers] RE: Ask Not What You Can Do For The TSA...

2011-04-26 Thread Jim Kennedy
Digs are always a great idea, provided they are done right and with landowner permission. Jim Kennedy, TSS Office Manager and Director From: caverarch [mailto:cavera...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:18 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: texascav...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [

[Texascavers] RE: Ask Not What You Can Do For The TSA...

2011-04-26 Thread Jim Kennedy
Digs are always a great idea, provided they are done right and with landowner permission. Jim Kennedy, TSS Office Manager and Director From: caverarch [mailto:cavera...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:18 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: texascav...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [

[Texascavers] Interesting Article

2011-04-26 Thread Mark Minton
Article about life-long female caver Liz Price: . Mark Minton Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org ---

[Texascavers] Interesting Article

2011-04-26 Thread Mark Minton
Article about life-long female caver Liz Price: . Mark Minton Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org ---

[Texascavers] Interesting Article

2011-04-26 Thread Mark Minton
Article about life-long female caver Liz Price: . Mark Minton Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org ---

texascavers Digest 26 Apr 2011 15:55:08 -0000 Issue 1298

2011-04-26 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 26 Apr 2011 15:55:08 - Issue 1298 Topics (messages 17659 through 17666): brochure 17659 by: Gill Edigar Re: OT - back from the Sierra Tarahumara 17660 by: Preston Forsythe Dig it 17661 by: Andy Gluesenkamp Re: Ask Not What You Can Do For The TSA.

texascavers Digest 26 Apr 2011 15:55:08 -0000 Issue 1298

2011-04-26 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 26 Apr 2011 15:55:08 - Issue 1298 Topics (messages 17659 through 17666): brochure 17659 by: Gill Edigar Re: OT - back from the Sierra Tarahumara 17660 by: Preston Forsythe Dig it 17661 by: Andy Gluesenkamp Re: Ask Not What You Can Do For The TSA.

texascavers Digest 26 Apr 2011 15:55:08 -0000 Issue 1298

2011-04-26 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 26 Apr 2011 15:55:08 - Issue 1298 Topics (messages 17659 through 17666): brochure 17659 by: Gill Edigar Re: OT - back from the Sierra Tarahumara 17660 by: Preston Forsythe Dig it 17661 by: Andy Gluesenkamp Re: Ask Not What You Can Do For The TSA.

RE: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Meeting Minutes

2011-04-26 Thread Mark . Alman
All, Since you probably know by now that I was involved in an epic battle in Del Rio between my kidney stones and morphine, which I'm happy to say has reached a truce, and couldn't attend the Business Meeting, I thought I would chime in. Please delete, if you could care less!

RE: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Meeting Minutes

2011-04-26 Thread Mark . Alman
All, Since you probably know by now that I was involved in an epic battle in Del Rio between my kidney stones and morphine, which I'm happy to say has reached a truce, and couldn't attend the Business Meeting, I thought I would chime in. Please delete, if you could care less!

RE: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Meeting Minutes

2011-04-26 Thread Mark . Alman
All, Since you probably know by now that I was involved in an epic battle in Del Rio between my kidney stones and morphine, which I'm happy to say has reached a truce, and couldn't attend the Business Meeting, I thought I would chime in. Please delete, if you could care less!

Re: [Texascavers] Ask Not What You Can Do For The TSA...

2011-04-26 Thread caverarch
I think digs are a good idea if there good candidates with reliable property access in the Austin and San Antonio areas. What do our TSS data masters think? Roger -Original Message- From: S S To: texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: texascav...@yahoo.com Sent: Tue, Apr 26, 2011 12:26 am

Re: [Texascavers] Ask Not What You Can Do For The TSA...

2011-04-26 Thread caverarch
I think digs are a good idea if there good candidates with reliable property access in the Austin and San Antonio areas. What do our TSS data masters think? Roger -Original Message- From: S S To: texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: texascav...@yahoo.com Sent: Tue, Apr 26, 2011 12:26 am

Re: [Texascavers] Ask Not What You Can Do For The TSA...

2011-04-26 Thread caverarch
I think digs are a good idea if there good candidates with reliable property access in the Austin and San Antonio areas. What do our TSS data masters think? Roger -Original Message- From: S S To: texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: texascav...@yahoo.com Sent: Tue, Apr 26, 2011 12:26 am

[Texascavers] WNS Experiments

2011-04-26 Thread Mark Minton
Here are a couple of articles about white-nose syndrome in Pennsylvania and recent experiments to find chemicals to help bats survive. Unfortunately they were improperly implemented and all the bats involved died. :-( The video shows how ultraviolet light can be used to visualize WNS

[Texascavers] WNS Experiments

2011-04-26 Thread Mark Minton
Here are a couple of articles about white-nose syndrome in Pennsylvania and recent experiments to find chemicals to help bats survive. Unfortunately they were improperly implemented and all the bats involved died. :-( The video shows how ultraviolet light can be used to visualize WNS

[Texascavers] WNS Experiments

2011-04-26 Thread Mark Minton
Here are a couple of articles about white-nose syndrome in Pennsylvania and recent experiments to find chemicals to help bats survive. Unfortunately they were improperly implemented and all the bats involved died. :-( The video shows how ultraviolet light can be used to visualize WNS

Re: [Texascavers] Ask Not What You Can Do For The TSA...

2011-04-26 Thread Preston Forsythe
I would not take a new caver to Airman's (unless they weighed 170 lbs or less) if you want them to go again. Too tight. Same for Dead Dog Cave in Austin. Preston Forsythe, Browder, KY - Original Message - From: S S

Re: [Texascavers] Ask Not What You Can Do For The TSA...

2011-04-26 Thread Preston Forsythe
I would not take a new caver to Airman's (unless they weighed 170 lbs or less) if you want them to go again. Too tight. Same for Dead Dog Cave in Austin. Preston Forsythe, Browder, KY - Original Message - From: S S

Re: [Texascavers] Ask Not What You Can Do For The TSA...

2011-04-26 Thread Preston Forsythe
I would not take a new caver to Airman's (unless they weighed 170 lbs or less) if you want them to go again. Too tight. Same for Dead Dog Cave in Austin. Preston Forsythe, Browder, KY - Original Message - From: S S

[Texascavers] Dig it

2011-04-26 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
Anyone who wants to dig on Kiwi's Sink is welcome to contact me.  Kiwi's is currently the longest cave in Rolling Oaks (i.e. "The Caverhood") and has the potential to tie into the massive lost caverns below the Blanco River as well as Jacob's Well.  Well, maybe that is an extremely low potentia

[Texascavers] Dig it

2011-04-26 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
Anyone who wants to dig on Kiwi's Sink is welcome to contact me.  Kiwi's is currently the longest cave in Rolling Oaks (i.e. "The Caverhood") and has the potential to tie into the massive lost caverns below the Blanco River as well as Jacob's Well.  Well, maybe that is an extremely low potentia

[Texascavers] Dig it

2011-04-26 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
Anyone who wants to dig on Kiwi's Sink is welcome to contact me.  Kiwi's is currently the longest cave in Rolling Oaks (i.e. "The Caverhood") and has the potential to tie into the massive lost caverns below the Blanco River as well as Jacob's Well.  Well, maybe that is an extremely low potentia

Re: [Texascavers] OT - back from the Sierra Tarahumara

2011-04-26 Thread Preston Forsythe
That was a pretty wild trip and I for one would like to hear more details when you write it up. Thanks for the report, Preston Forsythe in western KY --- - Original Message - From: dirt...@comcast.net To: Cave NM ; Cave Texas

Re: [Texascavers] OT - back from the Sierra Tarahumara

2011-04-26 Thread Preston Forsythe
That was a pretty wild trip and I for one would like to hear more details when you write it up. Thanks for the report, Preston Forsythe in western KY --- - Original Message - From: dirt...@comcast.net To: Cave NM ; Cave Texas

Re: [Texascavers] OT - back from the Sierra Tarahumara

2011-04-26 Thread Preston Forsythe
That was a pretty wild trip and I for one would like to hear more details when you write it up. Thanks for the report, Preston Forsythe in western KY --- - Original Message - From: dirt...@comcast.net To: Cave NM ; Cave Texas

[Texascavers] brochure

2011-04-26 Thread Gill Edigar
In the mid-'90s I produced a tri-fold brochure for the UT Grotto entitled: *So you want to go caving? *It was designed to go into the 'Gimmee' slots provided for clubs and outfitters and such at places like REI, Whole Earth PC, Academy, climbing gyms, or just handing out to new cavers at City of Au

[Texascavers] brochure

2011-04-26 Thread Gill Edigar
In the mid-'90s I produced a tri-fold brochure for the UT Grotto entitled: *So you want to go caving? *It was designed to go into the 'Gimmee' slots provided for clubs and outfitters and such at places like REI, Whole Earth PC, Academy, climbing gyms, or just handing out to new cavers at City of Au

[Texascavers] brochure

2011-04-26 Thread Gill Edigar
In the mid-'90s I produced a tri-fold brochure for the UT Grotto entitled: *So you want to go caving? *It was designed to go into the 'Gimmee' slots provided for clubs and outfitters and such at places like REI, Whole Earth PC, Academy, climbing gyms, or just handing out to new cavers at City of Au

texascavers Digest 26 Apr 2011 12:53:55 -0000 Issue 1297

2011-04-26 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 26 Apr 2011 12:53:55 - Issue 1297 Topics (messages 17650 through 17658): Re: New travel warning by State Department 17650 by: Diana Tomchick 17651 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net Grutas de Garcia - Monterrey 17652 by: David 17656 by: tbsamsel.veri

texascavers Digest 26 Apr 2011 12:53:55 -0000 Issue 1297

2011-04-26 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 26 Apr 2011 12:53:55 - Issue 1297 Topics (messages 17650 through 17658): Re: New travel warning by State Department 17650 by: Diana Tomchick 17651 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net Grutas de Garcia - Monterrey 17652 by: David 17656 by: tbsamsel.veri

texascavers Digest 26 Apr 2011 12:53:55 -0000 Issue 1297

2011-04-26 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 26 Apr 2011 12:53:55 - Issue 1297 Topics (messages 17650 through 17658): Re: New travel warning by State Department 17650 by: Diana Tomchick 17651 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net Grutas de Garcia - Monterrey 17652 by: David 17656 by: tbsamsel.veri

Re: [Texascavers] Ask Not What You Can Do For The TSA...

2011-04-26 Thread J. LaRue Thomas
To be fair, in some cases these cavers are honoring a landowner's request to keep quiet or keep to the same individuals. And we have not forgotten folks' interest in the 5 Mouth Dig--we still do not have a date that works for the landowner. PBSS will for sure announce the next one. Jacqui ---

Re: [Texascavers] Ask Not What You Can Do For The TSA...

2011-04-26 Thread J. LaRue Thomas
To be fair, in some cases these cavers are honoring a landowner's request to keep quiet or keep to the same individuals. And we have not forgotten folks' interest in the 5 Mouth Dig--we still do not have a date that works for the landowner. PBSS will for sure announce the next one. Jacqui ---

Re: [Texascavers] Ask Not What You Can Do For The TSA...

2011-04-26 Thread J. LaRue Thomas
To be fair, in some cases these cavers are honoring a landowner's request to keep quiet or keep to the same individuals. And we have not forgotten folks' interest in the 5 Mouth Dig--we still do not have a date that works for the landowner. PBSS will for sure announce the next one. Jacqui ---

RE: [Texascavers] Ask Not What You Can Do For The TSA...

2011-04-26 Thread Mark . Alman
Agreed and you're correct that there are a lot of little projects that are conducted "by one or two people that could be included in a larger project". This has been one of my biggest and oldest pet peeves, going all the way back when I was a new member at the DFW Grotto. These less than we

RE: [Texascavers] Ask Not What You Can Do For The TSA...

2011-04-26 Thread Mark . Alman
Agreed and you're correct that there are a lot of little projects that are conducted "by one or two people that could be included in a larger project". This has been one of my biggest and oldest pet peeves, going all the way back when I was a new member at the DFW Grotto. These less than we

RE: [Texascavers] Ask Not What You Can Do For The TSA...

2011-04-26 Thread Mark . Alman
Agreed and you're correct that there are a lot of little projects that are conducted "by one or two people that could be included in a larger project". This has been one of my biggest and oldest pet peeves, going all the way back when I was a new member at the DFW Grotto. These less than we

Re: [Texascavers] Grutas de Garcia - Monterrey

2011-04-26 Thread tbsamsel
Mexican Google News, please. Spanish Google News would include Spain, Argentina, Chile, Colombia, Cuba, Peru, y los Estados Unidos.   Por ejemplo, leyendo de Charlie Sheen o de Lindsay Lohan es muy facil!   T   Apr 25, 2011 02:44:26 PM, dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: Ted's mention of Spanish Googl

Re: [Texascavers] Grutas de Garcia - Monterrey

2011-04-26 Thread tbsamsel
Mexican Google News, please. Spanish Google News would include Spain, Argentina, Chile, Colombia, Cuba, Peru, y los Estados Unidos.   Por ejemplo, leyendo de Charlie Sheen o de Lindsay Lohan es muy facil!   T   Apr 25, 2011 02:44:26 PM, dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: Ted's mention of Spanish Googl

Re: [Texascavers] Grutas de Garcia - Monterrey

2011-04-26 Thread tbsamsel
Mexican Google News, please. Spanish Google News would include Spain, Argentina, Chile, Colombia, Cuba, Peru, y los Estados Unidos.   Por ejemplo, leyendo de Charlie Sheen o de Lindsay Lohan es muy facil!   T   Apr 25, 2011 02:44:26 PM, dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: Ted's mention of Spanish Googl