Re: [Texascavers] OTR

2014-10-07 Thread gille via Texascavers
A GOM?  Sent from the Samsung Galaxy Rugby Pro, an AT&T LTE smartphone Original message From: Diana Tomchick via Texascavers Date: 10/07/2014 12:18 (GMT-06:00) To: "" Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OTR You better make sure you're not dead last... Diana * * * * * * * * *

Re: [Texascavers] OTR

2014-10-07 Thread gille via Texascavers
A GOM  Sent from the Samsung Galaxy Rugby Pro, an AT&T LTE smartphone Original message From: Diana Tomchick via Texascavers Date: 10/07/2014 10:21 (GMT-06:00) To: "" Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OTR On Oct 7, 2014, at 8:17 AM, Charles Loving via Texascavers wrote: > Fi

Re: [Texascavers] guess who

2014-09-24 Thread gille via Texascavers
MOS Sent from the Samsung Galaxy Rugby Pro, an AT&T LTE smartphone Original message From: Mixon Bill via Texascavers Date: 09/23/2014 23:39 (GMT-06:00) To: Cavers Texas Subject: [Texascavers] guess who A correspondent has given me his caving statistics for 2014 as of 

Re: [Texascavers] Caving accident in Peru

2014-09-22 Thread gille via Texascavers
I think I was caving with that guy in Mex last month.  --Ediver Sent from the Samsung Galaxy Rugby Pro, an AT&T LTE smartphone Original message From: Josh Rubinstein via Texascavers Date: 09/22/2014 12:49 (GMT-06:00) To: Cavers Texas Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Caving acc

Re: [Texascavers] Bill Helmer

2014-09-22 Thread gille via Texascavers
Same Bill Helmer. Bourne is Boerne. His article appears in TEXAS CAVER about 74.  Sent from the Samsung Galaxy Rugby Pro, an AT&T LTE smartphone Original message From: via Texascavers Date: 09/22/2014 00:15 (GMT-06:00) To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texasc

[Texascavers] FW: Comet Pics

2007-11-04 Thread gille
-- Forwarded Message: -- From: REC To: siv...@listserv.vt.edu Subject: Comet Pics List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 04:02:46 + > > I hooked up the camera to the telescope tonight. Here's two exposures > of the comet: > > http://wind-d

Re: [Texascavers] Dangers of golfing

2007-11-03 Thread gille
Back in the late '60s as cavers at Texas A&I at Kingsville we used to use the roof of the football stadium press box to rig ropes from and practice rappelling and prussiking. The stadium was surrounded by about 40 acres of unobstructed parking lot, mostly just dirt with a smattering of caliche s

Re: [Texascavers] Mass Extinction Theory 2

2007-11-02 Thread gille
That's silly, Cooper. It's a generally accepted fact that during the great rain event that caused the celebrated Noahian Flood, they only got 7/10 of an inch in Central Texas, less out west. The Texas dinosaurs only got the dust washed off um. And besides, some were great swimmers. --Ediger --

[Texascavers] Dangers of golfing

2007-11-01 Thread gille
-- Original message -- From: "Minton, Mark" > Lyndon Tiu said: > >People get injured or killed playing golf?! > > Killed probably not, but injured, sure. > Mark Minton A lot of golfers get killed every year by lightning. I don't know about kite fly

[Texascavers] TCR chiggers wiki

2007-10-30 Thread gille
-- Original message -- From: "Brian Riordan" > From Wikipedia: > >The North American genus and species can cause severe illness in children. > This only occurs when the infestation is particularly heavy. *>Symptoms > include a hallucinatory sense of floating outside

[Texascavers] Paella & bread

2007-10-30 Thread gille
-- Original message -- From: "Minton, Mark" > I like Mary Thiesse's friend's comment: > >>If you serve Paella on a piece of bread to a Spaniard, and you tell them > >>that > is paella they would probably leave the table. The first paella I ever actually saw was

[Texascavers] TCR chiggers

2007-10-30 Thread gille
I've had a report from amongst the A&I folks of chigger attacks at TCR. Did anyone else notice them? Big fleas have little fleas Upon their backs to bite 'um; And little fleas have smaller fleas And so, ad infintum --Ediger ---

[Texascavers] Fireworks

2007-10-30 Thread gille
-- Original message -- From: Allan Cobb >I would like to apologize to any dogs (or people) who were frightened > by the fireworks. The fireworks were not an event planned by TCR. > Had I known about them, they > would have been announced. Actually, had I known abo

[Texascavers] TCR cooks too much

2007-10-30 Thread gille
-- Original message -- From: "Stefan Creaser" > However, I think there > was a little too much as we were still eating it for lunch on Sunday :-) When the food and the service are that good, too much is OK. But the most obvious excess I noticed during several scr

[Texascavers] Paella

2007-10-30 Thread gille
-- Original message -- From: "Denise P" > Paella-Delicious Spanish dish courtesy of Mr. Tommy Jo of Houston, Paella (pi A ya) is popular dish, ostensibly Spanish. However, I have never been able to find anybody who could tell me EXACTLY what the composition o

[Texascavers] A couple of bat things

2007-10-10 Thread gille
...and more. http://www.nsf.gov/news/special_reports/scivis/index.jsp?id=win2007 http://www.defensetech.org/archives/003587.html These oughta keep ya busy for a few minutes. --Ediger - Visit our website: http://tex

[Texascavers] Garage Sale, hoorah!

2007-10-08 Thread gille
- Original message -- From: "David Locklear" > That was a nice compliment: however, I can't take any credit for inventing the > garage sale. > Many organizations raise money this way.It goes back to the ancient times: Indeed, Hadrian's secretary and noted Roman au

[Texascavers] A caving trip to Picorete

2007-10-08 Thread gille
Here is a trip report by Ramon Godina about a trip we took to El Picorete one weekend after Peter Sprouse presented a talk to the Monterrey cavers. The original was in Spanish but since most of you aren't totally fluent in that language and would miss some of the subtle nuances I have taken the

[Texascavers] Jumpin in a Cave hands

2007-10-08 Thread gille
That is (by their sides, I mean) the normal place for them, isn't it? --Ediger -- Original message -- From: "Don Cooper" > I wonder why they're all running with their hands at their sides? > -WV

[Texascavers] Earth Science--new canyon more

2007-10-08 Thread gille
There was a news article on the Netscape homepage yesterday. I was in a hurry and didn't get a chance to mark it. And don't have time to look it back up now, but it ought to still be there if anybody has time to do a search. --Ediger

[Texascavers] Earth Science

2007-10-05 Thread gille
Rains of near-epic proportions last year in Texas resulted in maximum water releases from Canyon Lake Dam for an unusually long period of time. The dam was built on the Guadalupe River north of San Antonio in the '50s, I think. The result, as shown in this aerial photo, was the total removal of

[Texascavers] VOT--Shadow Puppets--too damned good

2007-10-05 Thread gille
Ya gotta see it -- Forwarded Message: -- From: REC > This takes the art to a level past what I've seen before: > > http://wind-drifter.com/HandPuppet.wmv - Visit our website: http://texasc

[Texascavers] Enhanced Mars--comments

2007-10-05 Thread gille
A couple of comments about the Mars pit photos: That's pretty neat. Looks just like the bottom of most pits I've seen. And on the face of it, not much deeper, I'd say, than 2wice the diameter of the entrance. A lot of folks may not understand the surface features. Those of you that see bliste

[Texascavers] improved LEDs--good news

2007-10-04 Thread gille
Good news for those of you on the LED merry-go-round: http://tinyurl.com/2n57p3 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail:

[Texascavers] Flood plains--the Map

2007-09-30 Thread gille
A lot of the county and FEMA and other "official" flood plain maps are pretty much just point to point connected straight line, quick draw sorta maybe somewhere near to where it oughta be generalities that don't really follow contour lines or realistic topographic profiles. They are based (call

[Texascavers] cave fallout shelters

2007-09-28 Thread gille
In what must have been the late '70s ('80s???) we hauled a ton or two of rusty barrels of survival "food" out of Longhorn Caverns during a TSA clean-up project there. That was long before the Cold War was over but the maintenance of the shelter had long since been abandoned if, indeed, it ever e

[Texascavers] Reopening cave fallout shelters

2007-09-28 Thread gille
Here's a story about Huntsville reopening fallout shelters. There is a photo gallery with cave pics. Homeland Security at its best http://news.aol.com/story/ar/_a/alabama-city-reopening-fallout-shelters/20070927 171609990001?ncid=NWS000101 --Ediger ---

[Texascavers] Sea Level Rise--the scam

2007-09-27 Thread gille
Don't push any buttons, just look at the map. The good news is that sea level probably won't rise quite 14 meters. The bad news is that neither Houston nor New York will be totally flooded. New Orleans is toast; we don't need no stinking hurricanes. --Ediger -- Original message ---

[Texascavers] More Sea Level Rise--the show

2007-09-27 Thread gille
>From another list: There's a great two hour show, "How the Earth Was Made", on the History Channel. It will really put rising sea levels in perspective for you. Check it out at: http://www.history.com/shows.do?episodeId=242366&action=detail ---

[Texascavers] Sea Level Rise--the Map

2007-09-27 Thread gille
Here it is now. I didn't figger it was worth sending if I didn't have your attention first. http://flood.firetree.net/ --Ediger -- Original message -- From: Jim and Avalon >Tell me why as a nation should we should be expected > to care about the date James

[Texascavers] Sea Level Rise--the Map

2007-09-26 Thread gille
-- Original message -- From: Jim and Avalon >Tell me why as a nation should we should be expected > to care about the date Jamestown was founded when our leaders show no > interest in controlling the rising sea level which will soon obliterate > the colony's site

[Texascavers] barometric surveys revisited

2007-09-24 Thread gille
A few years ago we had a discussion of barametric surveys for caves. Here is an article describing a one person, one instrument method of making surveys accurate to about 1 meter. http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/112730519/ABSTRACT?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0 --Ediger

[Texascavers] Above ground caves defined and rethreaded

2007-09-24 Thread gille
- Original message -- From: "Minton, Mark" >By definition caves cannot be above ground. My dictionary says a cave is "A >hollow >in the earth..." By whose definition? Where did you get that dictionary? Both show an extreme lack of practical consideration of th

[Texascavers] Obit: Don Shofstall

2007-09-24 Thread gille
> Donald Shofstall > Obituary > NSS 5794 > > Donald L. Shofstall, age 80, of Evansville, Indiana, passed away > on September 18th at his home. Don was very well known for MC�ing the > NSS Convention banquet, and for leading the toast to cavers no longer > with us. He also was extremely well-kn

[Texascavers] Yes, George, there are above ground caves

2007-09-24 Thread gille
-- Original message -- From: "George Nincehelser" > I think this may have been discussed before, but is there such a thing as an > "aboveground" cave? Of course, George, there are millions of them. One simple example should suffice: Caves are voids. There was a c

[Texascavers] More 360 degree photos

2007-09-24 Thread gille
-- Forwarded Message: -- From: "Sira, Raymond" Subject: Re: 360 degree rappel photo List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:21:01 + > > I looked around the site and found this page. > > http://www.abaco-digital.es/galeria_vv.shtml > > It has

Re: [Texascavers] RE: Say NO to TOLL roads in Texas

2007-09-24 Thread gille
-- Original message -- From: "Minton, Mark" > David Locklear said: > >If we ever do really really run out of oil, all of these super highways are > >going to look kind of funny. > > We may indeed run out of oil, but we will not run out of fuel. ... W

[Texascavers] Granado Cave

2007-09-20 Thread gille
-- Original message -- From: "David Locklear" > Is it Granado Cave? > http://www.texasbeyondhistory.net/granado/ Locklear, that was a damned fine site. I knew that we kept you around for some entertaining reason. Keep up the good work --Ediger --

[Texascavers] Grape Nuts

2007-09-19 Thread gille
One of the main ingredients of both Grape Nuts and beer is malted barley--lots of sugar. Sounds like a good combination to me. --Ediger -- Original message -- From: Ted Samsel > - Visit our we

[Texascavers] PET

2007-09-19 Thread gille
Wasn't there some health scare out a couple of years ago about reusing soft drink bottles for toting water, etc? Maybe beer doesn't count --Ediger -- Original message -- From: Ted Samsel >You can also use PET screw top soda/water bottles.. >Don't use cola or

[Texascavers] homebrewing too much

2007-09-18 Thread gille
-- Original message -- From: "Minton, Mark" >When I was brewing beer we used cheap champagne bottles, Ummm, yeah. I've got a couple dozen of those, too. Made a New Years raid on a meeting hall dumpster one January 1st. But they are only 22 ounces or so, mabye le

Re: [Texascavers] 4 weeks homebrewing too much

2007-09-18 Thread gille
Those are they. So long as they continue to use returnable, crown-top bottles we are in business. The US twist top bottles are not acceptable for several reasons--most notabley the top. Everybody bring back a case (full or empty--50 cents duty if any on full ones, does not detract from your allo

[Texascavers] 4 weeks homebrewing too much

2007-09-18 Thread gille
-- Original message -- From: "Brian Riordan" > 4 weeks is a short amount of time for a beer, or a wine or even a mead Actually, it's plenty of time to brew several batches: 3 or 4 days to brew it in Texas in September or October (fewer in hotter weather)

[Texascavers] FW: Advanced Weather map

2007-09-16 Thread gille
Here is a non-cave relatedcombination of The Weather Channel radar maps aerial photography/satelite imagery--you can actually zoom in to your local area to see what the weather is, or is not. Quite amazing. http://www.weather.com/outlook/health/allergies/map/interactive/30064?from=36

[Texascavers] An apoleptic.

2007-09-15 Thread gille
Well, good Golly, by Gosh, & Gee whiz! If you can't make fun of everything in the world, what can you make fun of? Exploit the humor impaired. --Ediger -- Original message -- From: Corky > > Hear Hear! > We can trash Christianity or any other religion on this

[Texascavers] Photos from space--NCR--nor offensive

2007-09-15 Thread gille
OK, this is not cave related, but the Earth is. --Ediger - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For addit

[Texascavers] 'Umbe

2007-09-13 Thread gille
Here is an interesting picture and assessment of Hurrican Humberto. http://www.weather.com/blog/weather/8_13551.html --Ediger - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texa

[Texascavers] Fwd: Video: Playing With Floating Orbs of Water in Space - Gizmodo

2007-09-08 Thread gille
Here's an interesting bit of science from space--big water drops: n-space-297508.php> - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe,

[Texascavers] imaginary overalls

2007-09-04 Thread gille
-- Original message -- From: "Jan Campbell" > Only if you imagine there IS no heaven. But if there is, isn't it an > objective reality, rather than a subjective one? We now come to the philosophical portion of our program: Imagining that there is no Heaven would

[Texascavers] --NOT--mostly NOT

2007-09-04 Thread gille
- Original message -- From: Bill Walden > Go to OTR or not? Never been to OTR in 40 year of caving. I always use > Labor Day Weekend for caving. You're in the majority, Bill. Most cavers have never been to OTR. But most--not all, of course--have been to regiona

[Texascavers] Off to OTR--NOT

2007-09-03 Thread gille
It's OK, David; Holsinger didn't seem to make it either. Maybe when you retire. --Ediger -- Original message -- From: "David Locklear" > > I can't make it to OTR.That is 58 I have missed now. [ I have a valid > excuse for the first 15, as I wasn't born yet. ]

[Texascavers] spiritual overalls

2007-09-03 Thread gille
Well, yes, Louise, but that's more like somebody's wishful response to a child's question--they don't REALLY know that, and can't. The one thing we do know absolutely is that as far as Heaven and the spiritual world go the imagination is not only the source, but the limit--and that is pretty muc

[Texascavers] Off to OTR

2007-08-30 Thread gille
I'll be off to OTR in Almost-Heaven West Virginia in a few minutes so won't be around to suffer the indignity of opposing points of view for 4 or 5 daze. That's a joke--actually I welcome them whole heartedly. I forward them to my friends and they slap their legs mightily--both of them. (Friends

[Texascavers] archangel Museum

2007-08-30 Thread gille
-- Original message -- From: "Brian Riordan" > What is with the focus of "white guys" playing archangels? It's a well known fact that everybody will speak English in Heaven. I feel sorry for my good Mexican friends, but it's out of our control--and probably thei

[Texascavers] Cave Names

2007-08-30 Thread gille
How 'bout: [Anybody's] Arm Pit? --Ediger -- Original message -- From: "Don Cooper" > > Is there a sinkhole de mayo anywhere? > -WaV - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e

[Texascavers] Creation Museum overalls

2007-08-30 Thread gille
I always thought that in heaven everybody was naked. That is my mental image of it, at least. --Ediger -- Original message -- From: "Louise Power" >White painters' overalls, huh. That's kinda folksy! I did not realize you >could >photograph archangels. Will won

[Texascavers] Creation Museum

2007-08-28 Thread gille
It would be funny if it weren't so sad. --Ediger -- Original message -- From: "Louise Power" >First one with a rational answer to the myth gets a free trip to the Creation >Museum: http://www.creationmuseum.org/ --

[Texascavers] Janus Karst diatribe

2007-08-28 Thread gille
I think these guys are caver off shoots of the Bob Dobbs cult (Saint Janus Hypercleats??? was an ArKansan). I'd recommend anyone to buy into their diatribe before buying into the hocus-pocus of any of the more established superstitions. --Ediger -- Original message ---

[Texascavers] Righteous diatribe biotribe

2007-08-28 Thread gille
-- Original message -- From: cavera...@aol.com > We attempted to proselytize for > that mighty amphibian deity, The Great Newt, as the caver-based religion of > the > age.? Alas, our holy words were not heeded... We've made some good inroads with Oztotl. --Edige

[Texascavers] OT - fuel efficient Gallons

2007-08-28 Thread gille
-- Original message -- From: "Worsfold, John" > It is worth noting that UK MPG are always more than US MPG as a UK > gallon is 20% more than the US gallon When I was in the 7th grade and studying volumes, my math teacher quoted this poem as an aid to mastering the

Re: [Texascavers] Coffee table books & Religion...

2007-08-28 Thread gille
-- Original message -- From: Ryan Michael Lozano >... but is the anti-Christian, > specifically anti-Catholic bit really necessary? Necessary, Ryan, is at the discretion of the writer, not the reader. And the relationships between the various belief systems is no

[Texascavers] FW: Global Warming forms more ice in ice cave in Austria

2007-08-28 Thread gille
-- Forwarded Message: -- From: Cheryl Jones To: siv...@listserv.vt.edu Subject: Global Warming forms more ice in ice cave in Austria List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:10:02 + > > http://tinyurl.com/28b9wo > (BBC video) > > CJ --

[Texascavers] Christmas Mts and Capote Falls 2

2007-08-28 Thread gille
It occurs to me that sufficient people in Texas are also appalled that a non-profit organization could be easily formed to take the property in hand and manage it for the benefit of those of us crazy people who see and appreciate the beauty of the desert. I will be one of the first to sign on.

[Texascavers] Texas Gulf Coast wetlands--now

2007-08-25 Thread gille
-- Original message -- From: cavera...@aol.com > Conversion of a suburb into a wetland was ecologically important, as well as > a good use of land now in the public domain. There have been quite a few > successful > wetland restoration projects such as in th

[Texascavers] Texas Gulf Coast Subsidence

2007-08-24 Thread gille
-- Original message -- From: dirt...@comcast.net > Texas Gulf Coast Faults > Are real faults. The Earth has broken and rocks on either side of them have > moved relative to each other. There are a lot of them. Yeah, very good, Dwight. But I never considered the

[Texascavers] Bad Bat publicity

2007-08-22 Thread gille
Snagged this from another forum: The Marburg virus mystery solved: fruit bats. http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070822/ts_afp/healthugandamarburg --Ediger - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: te

[Texascavers] Comfort Subsidence :

2007-08-21 Thread gille
Subsidence happens closer to Houston--in more ways than one. --Ediger -- Original message -- From: "Fritz Holt" > > Subsidence may have dropped it six inches. > Fritz > > -Original Message- > From: gi...@att.net [mailto:gi...@att.net] > Sent: Tuesday, Au

[Texascavers] Bat Chiropttorium ?

2007-08-21 Thread gille
Wouldn't the term "bat chiropttorium" be redundant? --Ediger - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascave

[Texascavers] Comfort Chiropttorium :

2007-08-21 Thread gille
-- Original message -- From: > I sure that the bat house in Comfort, Texas is still there. I saw it about a month ago--right where it's been since they built it. --Ediger - Visit our website: h

Re: [Texascavers] Live Texas Cavers Report

2007-08-10 Thread gille
Daily updates: www.volcanodiscovery.com/volcano-tours/volcano_news/guatemala/fuego/ --Ediger -- Original message -- From: Don Arburn > > Volcano Fuego near Antigua is erupting. Beautiful site from hotel > roof! Been caving near Nenton, to stay on topic...

Re: [Texascavers] a salt cavern tour

2007-08-10 Thread gille
I always thought that mine was in a salt dome into which they'd drilled a couple of wells. Into one they pump hot water and from the other they pump out near saturated brine which is then evaporated. That would make the tour a little more technical --Ediger -- Original message

[Texascavers] Glory, Glory (school song)

2007-08-10 Thread gille
Glory, Glory, Hallelujah! The teacher hit me with a ruler. I bopped her on the bean With a rotten tangerine And I'm not in school anymore. Seems like there was a verse or two that preceded that one. Ah, yes, I see your last line now. It was something like: Mine eyes

[Texascavers] a Kerr County Project

2007-08-08 Thread gille
It would seem to me that there are more caves in Kerr County than have been found. It looks like a good place for Texas cavers to do some prospecting over the next 2 years. Hold off on that publication, now. --Ediger -- Original message -- From: jerryat...@aol.co

[Texascavers] The Rio Bravo del Norte

2007-08-03 Thread gille
A comment or two on Deal's excellent write-up is that he didn't mention the increased flows that must have come out of Colorado during the Ice Ages when major spring thaws would have sent large volumes of water into the system. In the 80's a dam had been built on the Conchos in Mexico and a res

RE: [Texascavers] Terra Rossa, anyone? 2

2007-07-24 Thread gille
-- Original message -- From: "Geary Schindel" > This definition doesn't necessarily state that it's derived from > limestone but we may be nitpicking. Anyway, I've always thought that > they are mostly found on limestones so you would think that they would > be ass

[Texascavers] Terra Rossa, anyone?

2007-07-24 Thread gille
-- Original message -- From: cavera...@aol.com > But how do the red clays of the Florida and SW Georgia karst fit in? I > don't think these clays are massively thick. But more interestingly, unless > they > are derived from elsewhere, I don't there was much of

[Texascavers] FW: Wind-powered robots--too cool

2007-07-23 Thread gille
-- Forwarded Message: -- From: Cheryl Jones To: siv...@listserv.vt.edu Subject: Wind-powered robots List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:55:28 + > > Very cool! > http://www.ministryoftech.com/2006/11/19/kinetic-sculptures-wind-powered-

[Texascavers] FYI after Orion's Bustamante Project post

2007-07-23 Thread gille
Following Orion's post I sent the followint to those others involved directly in the Project. It is pertinent to his post and the future of that Project. --Ediger Subject: RE: Bustamante Project List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:42:57 + > > - Orig

[Texascavers] Dogs 2007

2007-07-23 Thread gille
Most of the 4-legged dogs I've seen at TCR were stark naked. A few had bandanas around their necks. --Ediger -- Original message -- From: "Fritz Holt" > > Yes, they keep their clothes on. > > -Original Message- > From: Nancy Weaver [mailto:nan...@io.com

[Texascavers] FW: Paul Stevens' goodbye -- PS

2007-07-06 Thread gille
For those of you who don't know, Paul Stevens has long been associated with various aspects of caving. I first remember meeting him at a DC Grotto meeting in Washington in probably 1973. He was an officer of some sort the entire 3 years I was in the DC area. He was also heavily involved in Regio

Re: [Texascavers] Old caving gear? too

2007-07-04 Thread gille
-- Original message -- From: "Don Cooper" > Some plastics emit > biotoxins when burned. Biotoxins; Schmiotoxins We're talking about a PARTY here, son. And getting rid of some old equipment. Bring on the nylon --Ediger --

[Texascavers] Old caving gear?

2007-07-04 Thread gille
-- Original message -- From: "John P. Brooks" > ..and I was wondering > what you do with your old gear? Save wood. Take it to TCR and put in on the bonfire. A fitting tribute --Ediger -

[Texascavers] Bat virus news

2007-07-01 Thread gille
http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/070701_ap_bat_virus.html - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@te

[Texascavers] heating your graffiti

2007-06-28 Thread gille
A regular old pressure cooker and a Svea-type back packing stove will work just fine for a steam generator. Attach a high temp 1/4" rubber hose of requisite length--say one suitable for a fuel line--to the outlet where the jiggler usually sits, and get going. There will be no discernable pressur

[Texascavers] non-cave related science--fire & sound

2007-06-28 Thread gille
fire and sound video http://www.b3ta.com/links/How_fire_reacts_to_soundwaves - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texas

[Texascavers] Sorry--Cool, Cool,

2007-06-28 Thread gille
Pete-- Please excuse the name mispelling. I know how to spell Lindsley--probably done it a hundred times or more. I usually proof read things a little better than that before I send them out. --Ediger -- Original message -- From: gi...@att.net > > The thing that

[Texascavers] websites Mars Pit

2007-06-27 Thread gille
The website mentioned below will probably get one to the websites I mentioned in my previous message. Both of them work at or for or are connected with this place. --GE -- Original message -- From: Don Arburn The website is > actually pretty cool. Used the fir

[Texascavers] wind on Mars

2007-06-27 Thread gille
In fact there is much wind on Mars. A quick quotation from William Hartmann in _A Traveler's Guide to Mars_ : "Despite the harsh conditions, the trackless landscape is much more inviting than that of the Moon. A visitor on Mars is greeted by vistas of rocks and hills, sand dunes and lava flows

Re: [Texascavers] Cool, Cool,

2007-06-27 Thread gille
The thing that actually turned me on to was the photo of the water drop. Back in the '60s or so Kunath & Lindsey and another one or two cave photographers took pictures of some water drops just free from a soda straw--refractions inverted, of course. Then a few slides farther on there was a pict

[Texascavers] Cool, Cool, Cool Earth & Space photos

2007-06-24 Thread gille
Go to this site. http://epod.usra.edu/ Then hit: <--Previous EPOD and keep hitting as long as you feel like it. It goes on forever, I guess. --Ediger - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [Texascavers] misnaned bugs

2007-06-23 Thread gille
-- Original message -- From: Wayne Hutchinson > The brown beetles we call Junebugs here are correctly called May Beetles. > June bugs are green shiny and about twice the size. Is it OK to eat their brains? --Ediger

[Texascavers] June Bugs-more

2007-06-22 Thread gille
Simply pretend that they are Christmas Beetles if you encounter them prior to June. --Ediger -- Original message -- From: "Bill Bentley" > > This year I saw June Bugs, but it was still in May... > > Weird... -

[Texascavers] Eating Mayans?

2007-06-22 Thread gille
The young ones are tender and, due to lack of chimneys on their houses, come already smoked. They resemble a Virginia ham (not chicken)in flavor and texture (though with a bit less fat)--including the little white cotton wrappings they come in. --Ediger -- Original message ---

[Texascavers] June Bugs- Don't

2007-06-21 Thread gille
In Australia they call June Bugs Christmas Beetles. Who knows why? --Ediger -- Original message -- From: keith heuss >> Is it still a May Fly if it comes out in June? - Visit our website: http://

[Texascavers] mini reunions at TCR ?

2007-06-09 Thread gille
We have for 3 years now at TCR been having a mini-reunion of the cavers from the old Texas A&I (Kingsville) Grotto which was active in the late '60s and pretty much throughout the '70s. It is a great time for those who manage to attend and keep their clothes on. I can say quite factually that

Re: [Texascavers] RE: LED Light 2

2007-06-07 Thread gille
God, I swore I proof read that whole piece. I guess it was the wine. Also, I guess entiry should have been entity (a word never used by some CaveTex readers) and moctifying, with a mere slip of the middle finger, should have been modifying, of course. But then I have to admit that moctifying is,

Re: [Texascavers] Aboveground & more

2007-06-06 Thread gille
Not really. I used to have a problem with the off-handed redundancy of it, but then careful inspection showed that the LED is a separate item--an independent noun, and the light emitted from it is its own entiry as well. But, LED becomes an adjective when used with "LED light" mocifying specific

Re: [Texascavers] Aboveground & more

2007-06-06 Thread gille
Only in that it would be specific to that produced by an LED lamp. It's still your basic photons, I suppose. --Ediger -- Original message -- From: "John P. Brooks" > > Is there a specific type of light called LED light? Or is light just light? > Please enlighten

[Texascavers] Aboveground & more

2007-06-05 Thread gille
> Brian Vauter wrote: > > The caption makes use of the ever popular "underground cave" > > catchphrase used by the press. There are quite a few other such redundant phrasings used quite loosely amongst cavers. One of the most abused is the term "rappelled down" as in "We rappelled down into the