Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-09-12 Thread bb7668
Dear Triode, Thanks very much for your reply. Great work on the EDO. bb7668's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57251 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Now that the SBT has been discontinued, will the SONOS make a good alternative?

2012-09-12 Thread Sakkerju
garym wrote: I completely agree. The powerline approach does require certain wiring configurations and in some circuit configurations simply won't work at all. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007ILFFS6/ref=wms_ohs_product ... I was disappointed by the powerline approach as well. i

[SlimDevices: Touch] Optimize Squeezebx Touch sound quality

2012-09-12 Thread Johnnyg34
I’m relatively new at this audiophile stuff (less than 6 month) and am wondering if you folks out there can help me out. I’m looking for advice on how I can optimize the sound quality of my audio system that uses my Squeezebox Touch. I currently have a Denon DRA-697I receiver that I connect to

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Optimize Squeezebx Touch sound quality

2012-09-12 Thread garym
Johnnyg34 wrote: I#8217;m relatively new at this audiophile stuff (less than 6 month) and am wondering if you folks out there can help me out. I#8217;m looking for advice on how I can optimize the sound quality of my audio system that uses my Squeezebox Touch. I currently have a Denon

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-09-12 Thread Gazjam
Fantastic work Triode. Good man! I have a Vlink usb/spdif adapter. i tried plugging Touch usb into that, then into my Dac via coax but the Touch said Cannot connect Dac or something... Can the Vlink be used in this way with EDO Touch usb mod? thanks.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-09-12 Thread guidof
Gazjam wrote: Fantastic work Triode. Good man! I have a Vlink usb/spdif adapter. i tried plugging Touch usb into that, then into my Dac via coax but the Touch said Cannot connect Dac or something... Can the Vlink be used in this way with EDO Touch usb mod? thanks. Yes, it can,

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Now that the SBT has been discontinued, will the SONOS make a good alternative?

2012-09-12 Thread guidof
Sakkerju wrote: I was disappointed by the powerline approach as well. i have tried a Netgear nano combi. Basically, it only worked reliable when there was a one-on-one wiring between the source and destination wall sockets. When it needs to go across any splitting/connection points,

[SlimDevices: Touch] Connecting SBT to speakers

2012-09-12 Thread Chico Escuela
Wife and I have had our SBT for about 3 years now. We listen to nothing but internet radio. We have had the SBT connected to a pair of computer speakers and have been satisfied with that. We recently moved and in the move found an old receiver we had as well as a pair of book shelf Sony speakers.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Optimize Squeezebx Touch sound quality

2012-09-12 Thread Johnnyg34
garym wrote: You say the RCA sounds best but then you say the 2 other digital connections IMPROVE the sound, marginally. Is this what you meant to say? If so, I'm not surprised as the internal touch DAC is pretty good. So I wouldn't expect night and day improvement with the Maverick DAC.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Optimize Squeezebx Touch sound quality

2012-09-12 Thread garym
Johnnyg34 wrote: Thanks for your reply, When using my DAC, the connection with my RCA or analog sound the best as compared to using no DAC. When switching to either of the digital sources the sound marginally improves as compared to having no DAC at all. And you are correct, 'RCA to

[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch digital out is bit perfect or other players have better bits ????

2012-09-12 Thread gerardhn
Dear users, I,am using the standard touch over edo asyn usb feeding high end system. I'am happy with it, maybe one remark, bass somewhat lean But ok. One question in head is: is this perfect feeding of my dac Does the touch make a perfect dig out? (no because of small CPU, cheap

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Connecting SBT to speakers

2012-09-12 Thread garym
Chico Escuela wrote: Wife and I have had our SBT for about 3 years now. We listen to nothing but internet radio. We have had the SBT connected to a pair of computer speakers and have been satisfied with that. We recently moved and in the move found an old receiver we had as well as a pair of

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch digital out is bit perfect or other players have better bits ????

2012-09-12 Thread garym
gerardhn wrote: Dear users, I,am using the standard touch over edo asyn usb feeding high end system. I'am happy with it, maybe one remark, bass somewhat lean But ok. One question in head is: is this perfect feeding of my dac Does the touch make a perfect dig out? (no because

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-09-12 Thread garym
guidof wrote: Yes, it can, provided you insert a high speed USB hub between SBT and VLink. Guido F. just asking, but is it really such an improvement to go from Touch USB hub Vlink Spdif DAC over Touch s/pdif DAC? One can use EDO even in the latter case.

[SlimDevices: Touch] Flac decoding at nas or at touch... Can I adjust that?

2012-09-12 Thread gerardhn
Setting of the problem. Dac s need, like better a wav/PCM bitstream. So that is why flac always sound = wav at best! (might read shocking ... But accept this for moment) Following this ... I would like to decode flac at my synology nas and send wav over the network to have all CPU power from

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch digital out is bit perfect or other players have better bits ????

2012-09-12 Thread Mnyb
touch is bit-perfect provided that volume is 100% and no replay gain is used. Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96419

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Flac decoding at nas or at touch... Can I adjust that?

2012-09-12 Thread JohnB
If you really want to do this, on the Web interface, go to Settings/Advanced/File Types, look down on the left for FLAC and enable/disable the Stream Formats. It would be a good idea to make a note of the initial settings in case you want to revert to them. Many NAS devices are underpowered so

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Optimize Squeezebx Touch sound quality

2012-09-12 Thread Mnyb
Notethat equal volume is not having the volume on the same setting, I be very surprised if the reciever analog inputs and it's digital had the same volume out . Use an spl meter or a voltmeter and a test signal if possible . Also figure out how your reciever really works most of them digitise

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-09-12 Thread guidof
garym wrote: just asking, but is it really such an improvement to go from Touch USB hub Vlink Spdif DAC over Touch s/pdif DAC? One can use EDO even in the latter case. Excellent question. My initial assumption was that 'less is more' and thus a straight SPDIF connection to the DAC

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Connecting SBT to speakers

2012-09-12 Thread Chico Escuela
Thank you very much. Worked like a charm! Chico Escuela's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44393 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96418

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-09-12 Thread garym
Interesting. Thanks. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch digital out is bit perfect or other players have better bits ????

2012-09-12 Thread garym
Ah yes. Forgot that part. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96419 ___ Touch

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch digital out is bit perfect or other players have better bits ????

2012-09-12 Thread Mnyb
garym wrote: Ah yes. Forgot that part. But that's nitpicking it still humanly transparent with typical,music material with a reasonable use of the volume controll. Mnyb's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Touch] Third party Equalizer with Bass boost feature / Connecting Android Smartphone via USB

2012-09-12 Thread DC227
Hi Community! I'm new to the Touch. I was just curious if there is an Equalizer app out for the Touch where you can control bass etc. I tried connecting my Galaxy S3, on my the cell it starts charging and giving me the messge Connected as media device but it doesn't show up on the Touch. Any

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Flac decoding at nas or at touch... Can I adjust that?

2012-09-12 Thread gerardhn
John, Thx, I found it in the menu! (not obvious ). I changed it and sounds perfect (better indeed) but works not perfect as it stops playing halfway .. Despite I have new Nas...ds 111. But this 3 column menu is not trival what is meant also for wav/PCM.!!! So is there clear instruction what

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Optimize Squeezebx Touch sound quality

2012-09-12 Thread Johnnyg34
garym wrote: sorry, I'm being daft this morning, but I'm still confused. You have your Touch connected via ANALOG to your DAC? That can't be good. Are you saying: 1. Touch Analog out DAC receiver 2. Touch digital out (S/PDIF or optical) DAC Receiver 3. Touch Analog out

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-12 Thread gharris999
JohnSwenson wrote: Yes I did, here is the procedure: Put a modern firmware (say 7.7.2) fab4.bin in the root dir of a clean USB stick. (it doesn't have to be completely empty, but it definitely should NOT contain a music library or any other media files) Disconnect everything from the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Optimize Squeezebx Touch sound quality

2012-09-12 Thread Mnyb
Alright enjoy ! * Touch is pretty respectable for a plastic thingy :) * Is this the Tube Magic A1 then I'm not actually surprised, you seems to prefer a more uncoloured aproach to playback ,wich I can sympathise with .

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-12 Thread JohnSwenson
gharris999 wrote: John: I don't think you've answered my question...which is: how does one set up a -BRAND NEW- SBTouch that's never been powered on before without having to connect to mysb.com? The procedure you describe above seems to be for a SBTouch that's already been configured for

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Now that the SBT has been discontinued, will the SONOS make a good alternative?

2012-09-12 Thread Sakkerju
guidof wrote: Have you considered a wireless bridge/extender? I use a DLink bridge, into which I hard wire my SBTouch and PC. Works flawlessly for me. Guido F. That might be me alternative now to try...having wifi in my shed near the house would be great. I wanted to get network

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-12 Thread garym
I have 3 new in the box Touch players in my office at the moment. I'm about ready to take them home and set each of the 3 up (connect to ethernet, set a fixed IP, connect to mysb.com, update firmware, etc.). Then I'm putting back in the box (these are backup units). Before I do all this, is

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Flac decoding at nas or at touch... Can I adjust that?

2012-09-12 Thread garym
gerardhn wrote: John, Thx, I found it in the menu! (not obvious ). I changed it and sounds perfect (better indeed) but works not perfect as it stops playing halfway .. Despite I have new Nas...ds 111. But this 3 column menu is not trival what is meant also for wav/PCM.!!! So is

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch digital out is bit perfect or other players have better bits ????

2012-09-12 Thread garym
Mnyb wrote: But that's nitpicking it still humanly transparent with typical,music material with a reasonable use of the volume controll. yep, I use replaygain (smartgain in LMS) and I try to keep my digital volume between 75% and 100% for normal listening.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch digital out is bit perfect or other players have better bits ????

2012-09-12 Thread bluegaspode
In my experience turning the volume knob a tiny bit to the right makes a huge improvement. Much more details in the listening space and the sound gets a warm and welcome timbre. So much bang for no bucks :-)

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-12 Thread JJZolx
garym wrote: I have 3 new in the box Touch players in my office at the moment. I'm about ready to take them home and set each of the 3 up (connect to ethernet, set a fixed IP, connect to mysb.com, update firmware, etc.). Then I'm putting back in the box (these are backup units). Before I do

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-12 Thread garym
JJZolx wrote: Why is that even necessary? Can't they get updated firmware from a local LMS? As long as you have a recent firmware file you should be future-proof. My understanding is that the TOUCH and RADIO do *not* get their firmware from the local LMS (unlike the older players). Of

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-12 Thread Mnyb
garym wrote: My understanding is that the TOUCH and RADIO do *not* get their firmware from the local LMS (unlike the older players). Of course with the TOUCH there is a method for updating the firmware on a USB drive or SD Card. I also have two new radios and I was going to do the same

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Flac decoding at nas or at touch... Can I adjust that?

2012-09-12 Thread Mnyb
If it stutters and you get dropouts,maybe you have reached the CPU or memory limit of your NAS . IMO the optimal settings are the defaults ;) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-12 Thread garym
Mnyb wrote: The local LMS eventually downloads a new version for Touch and Radio , I think John's instructions also take care of the case with a new server install and mysb.com dead and gone and also standalone use of the Touch . But for example in my current server install I would simply

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Flac decoding at nas or at touch... Can I adjust that?

2012-09-12 Thread garym
Mnyb wrote: If it stutters and you get dropouts,maybe you have reached the CPU or memory limit of your NAS . IMO the optimal settings are the defaults ;) yes, most likely reason. Can you temporarily install LMS on a PC or Mac, then set to stream WAV as you want and see if you get dropouts

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-12 Thread Mnyb
garym wrote: I guess my real question: is there any *technical* value in having not ever setup virgin Touch? (and I mean some reason other than resale value. I don't care about that aspect) No ,just proof of concept ( worst case ) if possible why not setup your spares rigth now. There will

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Flac decoding at nas or at touch... Can I adjust that?

2012-09-12 Thread Mnyb
garym wrote: yes, most likely reason. Can you temporarily install LMS on a PC or Mac, then set to stream WAV as you want and see if you get dropouts as a comparison. Wired or wifi ? Bandwith use also goes up when streaming WAV/PCM ,forgot that aspect it is rarely a problem but with tight

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-12 Thread garym
Mnyb wrote: No ,just proof of concept ( worst case ) if possible why not setup your spares rigth now. There will always be someone who missed that and it's good to have this tread for future reference. Yes, that's my plan (set up now my spare TOUCHes and RADIOs and spare CONTROLLER (my wife

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Flac decoding at nas or at touch... Can I adjust that?

2012-09-12 Thread Stratmangler
gerardhn wrote: Following this ... I would like to decode flac at my synology nas and send wav over the network to have all CPU power from touch available to feed its dig out. Best of luck :) Stratmangler's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch bought from US Aamazon.com not new!

2012-09-12 Thread pippin
No. I did get one of those when I bought a dented box Touch but they exchanged it without any issues. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch bought from US Aamazon.com not new!

2012-09-12 Thread snoogly
It's a bummer, as I am in Japan and returning this is going to be a hassle, and won't be cheap. And of course there is a good chance Amazon won't have a 'new' one left to send me. Ggr.. It must be Logitech at fault, as I bought it via Amazon international sales (not a merchant), and I

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch bought from US Aamazon.com not new!

2012-09-12 Thread mlsstl
snoogly wrote: Just took delivery of what was meant to be a new Touch, but it has obvious signs of wear (even fingerprints all over the screen). Crudely wrapped in plastic film to make it look new. Is this 'normal'? Stupid question I know ... What I really mean is, does Logtech have a

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch bought from US Aamazon.com not new!

2012-09-12 Thread jfo
Mine just arrived from Amazon today and was new, unopened. jfo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1135 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96431

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch part numbers

2012-09-12 Thread mfw
There's an outfit selling Manufacturer refurbished units on ebay. Anybody got any experience with these? mfw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37175 View this thread: