Like RadioClash, I have been reluctant to try the screen off mod. Is
text stll visible on screen when changing tracks? (No I-pad or I-Phone)
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Hi gents.
I just forked this thread over to 'soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=602139#post602139)
since I found this thread title kind of misleading. ;)
I btw added chapter 1.8 to the blog making some comments about
upgrades.
Cheers
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Hi folks.
As requested, I added a little screenshot to the blog to hopefully make
the installation a bit easier.
I also revised a bit the flac and other formats decoding instructions.
Cheers
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'soundcheck's au...@vise - Squeezebox Touch Toolbox 2.0'
soundcheck;601626 Wrote:
Dear Phil.
Just try it - I made it very easy for you and others to change values.
You can do simple ABX testing on any of the mods I present.
Dear Klaus - I will indeed try everything. I installed your software
yesterday and will get to work with it
hi soundcheck,
after applying your mods succesfully it got me thinking that you must
have done extensive messing with the touch.is it at possible in any
shape or form that you can tell the touch not to look for
updates.thank.kind regards scott
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scooot
scooot;602025 Wrote:
hi soundcheck,
after applying your mods succesfully it got me thinking that you must
have done extensive messing with the touch.is it at possible in any
shape or form that you can tell the touch not to look for
updates.thank.kind regards scott
In Squeezebox Server...
scooot;602025 Wrote:
that you must have done extensive messing
Dear scooot.
How comes that you figured out I've been doing extensive messing on
the Touch. Please let me know what makes you think so.
I'd strongly recommend that you better stay away from my Toolbox with
this kind of
soundcheck;602029 Wrote:
Dear scooot.
How comes that you figured out I've been doing extensive messing on
the Touch. Please let me know what makes you think so.
I'd strongly recommend that you better stay away from my Toolbox with
this kind of attitude. Just press the black button on
garym;602030 Wrote:
don't know scoot, but just wanted to point out that you may have
misinterpreted his comment as being negative in some way. I think he
was giving you a great compliment and simply saying that your mods
worked great and this indicates that you very much understand how the
Hi Klaus,
With buffer set to 3600 i had sometimes some very small dropout
clicks. I set buffer to 3700 and now everything seems to work
perfect.
Thanks for Your work :)
p.
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hi garym,rgro
thanks for that,that is exactly what i meant.anybody reading my earlier
posts would have known this as i highly praised souncheck for helping me
with applying the mods.not to forget RGRO's help who has given me great
advice.
soundcheck,sorry if you miss understood me.my intensions
Klaus:
I have enabled PCM stream, disabled analog outputs, and enabled screen
off. Each step has had a positive effect and, as you pointed out, these
effects are cumulative. I was very skeptical that turning off the screen
would make much difference, but I was wrong.
The total effect, in my
The one mod I have been reluctant to try is the screen off. I love my
screen!
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rgro;602035 Wrote:
+1 on that Gary.slang expressions are always very difficult to
transfer from one language/culture to another. I don't thing scoot
meant to insult in any way.
Sorry, If I misunderstood the expression messing around.
I'm gonna take it as compliment in the future. :D
rgro;601495 Wrote:
For me, it was moving up one in the root directory that wasn't clear. I
easily copied the file over to the directory that came up on the right
side of the browser window (and you have to remember to set the browser
window to Commander mode, otherwise you only get one
I'd like to understand the thinking behind the buffer sizing... why
should this impact anything?
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You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF
Phil Leigh;601574 Wrote:
I'd like to understand the thinking behind the buffer sizing... why
should this impact anything?
Also this discussion
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82670highlight=SB+Touch%3A+Alsa+Buffer+Size+Settings
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Mnyb
Mnyb;601590 Wrote:
Also this discussion
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82670highlight=SB+Touch%3A+Alsa+Buffer+Size+Settings
Thanks. I still can't see why reducing the buffer size would improve
audio. The CPU utilisation is unchanged. Memory is not being paged
out/page
Phil Leigh;601609 Wrote:
Thanks. I still can't see why reducing the buffer size would improve
audio. The CPU utilisation is unchanged. Memory is not being paged
out/page faulting.
If anything, the system will be under more strain/risk trying to manage
a buffer that is on the edge... ?
Phil Leigh;601574 Wrote:
I'd like to understand the thinking behind the buffer sizing... why
should this impact anything?
Dear Phil.
Just try it - I made it very easy for you and others to change values.
You can do simple ABX testing on any of the mods I present. And if you
can't hear or
Klaus,
Very big thank you for making these mods open to us all.
I found your instructions just fine, although i'm probably a little
more tech savy with this kind of things than a lot of people here.
What I didn't expect was quite how big the impact your changes have
had. I played around with
slackhead;601629 Wrote:
I guess that switching off the wireless and the screen is probably
contributing significantly.
All modification are of cumulative nature. Some of them got more some
less impact. That's right. ;)
That's why I'm saying if you can't run wired or with screen off -
soundcheck;601644 Wrote:
All modification are of cumulative nature. Some of them got more some
less impact. That's right. ;)
That's why I'm saying if you can't run wired or with screen off - don't
expect huge jumps.
Many people asked for WLAN on/off though. I wasn't really happy with
Hello Klaus,
Nice work on these mods! Music gets even more relaxed with them flipped
on!
Do you think it could be possible to turn the screen driver back on
without a reboot? and possibly tie that to a remote control button
press? (basically one of the screen savers you can cycle through) that
Hi all,
I've been testing the mods since sunday and they are very impressive.
More clean sound and treble extension (which I cannot explain). 24/96
works with no problems at all.
The wifi has significant negative impact. My suggestion is to use two
routers in bridge mode. I use two airport
Hello Klaus!
thank you for making the mods available!
Just wanted to share my experience with the Alsa buffer-setting: Had to
change the suggested 3600us to 8000us (I'm not sure about 7000us, but
6000us definitely did not work in my setup).
Does this probably have to do with the fact, that
hi welom,
i can't give you the answer you are looking for only to say i am still
using wlan and have the buffer set to 3600 with no problems so far.i
only did mods last night but have listened to about 4 hours of
music.regards scott
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scooot
HI all,
Installed the Mod2.0 last night, I have to increase the buffer to 4800
to totally eliminate the pop.
The 2.0 is much more easy to install even though I'm new to linux.
The big step improvement over the 1.0, I hear better bass definition
clearer high.
Highly recommended.
Thanks
The Toolbox 2.0 is great as was the 1.0 but much easier to install.
Guys think about some donation to soundcheck (bottom of his page) this
is a lot of work to share that with us...
Chris
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Phil Leigh;601241 Wrote:
hmmm... random gratuitous insult = 12 year old troll?
Show me ONE nasty thing I have ever posted...
please note: truth!=nasty
Phildon't waste one more second of your time on this child. His
main goal in life is to try to engage people in pi**ing
rgro;601325 Wrote:
Phildon't waste one more second of your time on this child. His
main goal in life is to try to engage people in pi**ing contests...the
ultimate loser.
I hear ya!
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Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd
Phil Leigh;601333 Wrote:
I hear ya!
I'll be quite interested to hear your evaluation of these mods. I have
not yet done the wi-fi mod as our ethernet project is still a few days
away (everything going wired except our laptops) and won't be turning
the screen off due to vociferous spousal
rgro;601343 Wrote:
I'll be quite interested to hear your evaluation of these mods. I have
not yet done the wi-fi mod as our ethernet project is still a few days
away (everything going wired except our laptops) and won't be turning
the screen off due to vociferous spousal objections (aka
ste1;601174 Wrote:
one thing that needs clarifying in your instructions is the copying to
/root or /root/root in winscp as this can be confusing.
I agree. The page does say it, but make it a little more explicit that
logging in may require clicking up to the root directory. I missed
that at
firedog;601409 Wrote:
I agree. The page does say it, but make it a little more explicit that
logging in may require clicking up to the root directory. I missed
that at first.
You might want read the updated phrase. Perhaps I'm gonna upload a
screenshot.
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'soundcheck's
I have half done the mods but have ran into a problem. I get an error
message which says failed with return code 127. I didn't get this
yesterday when I tried altering the buffer to 3600, that worked and
ttstat works but the error message pops up when I try ttout-d. Ssh is
enabled.
Any clues?
Covenant;601436 Wrote:
I have half done the mods but have ran into a problem. I get an error
message which says failed with return code 127. I didn't get this
yesterday when I tried altering the buffer to 3600, that worked and
ttstat works but the error message pops up when I try ttout-d.
Brilliant, thats sorted it, thanks Klaus. I got a couple of popping
sounds with the buffer at 3600 so have changed it to 4000.
A home-made linear power supply is under production at the moment after
which I will think about the Sfilter.
I am using WLAN at the moment but need to figure a neat way
In WinSCP, I copied the toolbox onto what seemed the right directory of
the Touch (/root/*.*).
In the terminal window, I entered the command 'tar xvf
touchtoolbox2.0.tar'
I watched the unpacking and distribution appear.
Then, still in the terminal window I entered 'ttinit' and got the
guidof;601450 Wrote:
In WinSCP, I copied the toolbox onto what seemed the right directory of
the Touch (/root/*.*).
In the terminal window, I entered the command 'tar xvf
touchtoolbox2.0.tar'
I watched the unpacking and distribution appear.
Then, still in the terminal window I
hi soundcheck,
is there any chance you can post some screen shots of the touch mods
procedure.i am totaly lost off from 1.2.4 on the instructions.i am very
limited on computer based knowledge so it is just going over my head.i
very much want to do the mods.thanks.kind regards scott.
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scooot
soundcheck;601426 Wrote:
You might want read the updated phrase. Perhaps I'm gonna upload a
screenshot.[/QUOTE
A screenshot and a little revision to the instruction would be perfect
as that was the part that tripped me up, too. Thanks for all your
great work, Soundcheck!
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Rick
scooot;601458 Wrote:
hi soundcheck,
is there any chance you can post some screen shots of the touch mods
procedure.i am totaly lost off from 1.2.4 on the instructions.i am very
limited on computer based knowledge so it is just going over my head.i
very much want to do the mods.thanks.kind
soundcheck;601476 Wrote:
More people seem to have a problem to copy a file from a to b.
I assumed this would not be any different or more complex then
using MS explorer.
Totally lost!?!? Come on, you must be kidding.
When logging in to the Touch you login as user root.
That's why
hi rgro/soundcheck,
a massive thanks to you both for helping me out with this.wife and kids
went to bed so i thought i would give it a go with a bit of quiet.i
think i have it cracked.changed the buffer to 3600,output to digital
out only.this is what i now have when going to ttstat.
Sounds like you finally got it knocked! Congrats. At 3600 I defintely
had a few Rice Krispies (snap, crackle, pop), so went up to 4000 as some
others have done. I've been listening to music most of the day and
haven't heard anything untoward, so I think 4000 is good for me, now.
Yeah, when
rgro,
cheers mate.thanks again,all the best.scott
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Gazjam;600895 Wrote:
+1
Fantastic improvement to the Touch's overall sound.
One thing though, after installing all the mods and checking with
ttstat, I see the following entry?
Unknown HZ value! (90) Assume 100
What does this mean Klaus, and is it a problem?
Thanks very
See that now, thanks.
Is there any change to the downloaded file toolbox 2.0 now that your
out of beta Klaus?
Would we have to rerun the process in other words?
Many thanks.
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No - No changes from Beta to Final.
Cheers
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soundcheck's
why is Phil Leigh so nasty? lives with his mother? lighten up...
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OK, so I have a problem before I even start.
On the Touch, I've enabled ssh as remote login
On the WinSCP dialog box, I entered the Player IP address
(192.168.1.6), the user name (root), the password (1234), the (default)
port (22), the protocol (SCP), and pressed login and . . .
\NETWORK
guidof;601157 Wrote:
OK, so I have a problem before I even start.
On the Touch, I've enabled ssh as remote login
On the WinSCP dialog box, I entered the Player IP address
(192.168.1.6), the user name (root), the password (1234), the (default)
port (22), the protocol (SCP), and pressed
Thanks very much for the quick reply!
Yes, I actually pasted the Player IP address just to make double sure.
Guido F.
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*Front End*: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge;
Cambridge Azur 840C CD Player; Oppo BDP--83 Universal Player;
Squeezebox Touch Music File Player
Since I have a another dig. steamer, anyone interested in my HW modified
(internal coupling caps bridged) Touch with or without SBooster + linear
PS (Best of Two Worlds)? Let me know if so in a PM.
Regards
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praganj;600919 Wrote:
I just installed the new toolbox from soundcheck. It works great !
Many thanks to Klaus (soundcheck) !
Me too.
My Touch sounds even fab-er now!! Many thanks for doing this. I have
made a small donation via paypal ;)
nb - one thing that needs clarifying in your
guidof;601162 Wrote:
Soundcheck:
Thanks very much for the quick reply!
Yes, I actually pasted the Player IP address just to make double sure.
Guido F.
Make sure you have SSH enabled on the Touch, itself. That was exactly
the message I got when I'd forgotten to do that. After it was
ste1;601174 Wrote:
Me too.
My Touch sounds even fab-er now!! Many thanks for doing this. I have
made a small donation via paypal ;)
nb - one thing that needs clarifying in your instructions is the
copying to /root or /root/root in winscp as this can be confusing.
+1 on that. Being a
rgro;601210 Wrote:
Make sure you have SSH enabled on the Touch, itself. That was exactly
the message I got when I'd forgotten to do that. After it was enabled
everything proceeded more or less smoothly.
Thanks, rgro.
I will go back and recheck (tomorrow).
Guido F.
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guidof
*Front
If you SSH over wifi it can time out try 2-3 times in a row then your
in.
goes for all of them controller radio and touch.
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Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH and
assorted amps
naimlinn;601130 Wrote:
why is Phil Leigh so nasty? lives with his mother? lighten up...
hmmm... random gratuitous insult = 12 year old troll?
Show me ONE nasty thing I have ever posted...
please note: truth!=nasty
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You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a
the 2.0 mods are now downloadable:
http://soundcheck-audio.blogspot.com/2011/01/soundchecks-squeezebox-touch-toolbox-20.html
I unpacked the file in my Touch root directory, but the directions he
gives for initializing the files (run commmand ttinit) in the root
folder didn't work. I get not
firedog;600760 Wrote:
the 2.0 mods are now downloadable:
http://soundcheck-audio.blogspot.com/2011/01/soundchecks-squeezebox-touch-toolbox-20.html
I unpacked the file in my Touch root directory, but the directions he
gives for initializing the files (run commmand ttinit) in the root
Klaus-
Thanks - I tried again and it works. Cool program, especially the new
features that let us check to see changes are working and to store the
setup. As soon as I see everything works as it should, I'll make a
contribution.
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Tranquil PC fanless WHS server running
firedog;600773 Wrote:
Klaus-
Thanks - I tried again and it works. Cool program, especially the new
features that let us check to see changes are working and to store the
setup. As soon as I see everything works as it should, I'll make a
contribution.
+1
Fantastic improvement to the
I just installed the new toolbox from soundcheck. It works great !
Many thanks to Klaus (soundcheck) !
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Soundcheck is back with version 2, not down loadable yet but looks like
it will be soon once final testing is done. If I'm correct there is an
addition to turn of the wireless receiver which wasn't in version 1.
http://soundcheck-audio.blogspot.com/p/squeezebox-touch-great-base-for-network.html
iPhone;596625 Wrote:
Now really, you don't think that if the actual builders of the device
could improve things by simply changing the code that they won't?! Get
real!
If one wants to imagine that they hear a difference afterwords, then
by all means software mod away if it makes one think
He says he's in favor of open source and doesn't wan't to commercialize
his product. So what difference does it make if someone misuses his
mods - That can be done with any open source software. If someone wants
to steal it and misuse it, they can.
If he was planning to charge for his mods I'd
firedog;596570 Wrote:
He says he's in favor of open source and doesn't wan't to commercialize
his product. So what difference does it make if someone misuses his
mods - That can be done with any open source software. If someone wants
to steal it and misuse it, they can.
If he was planning
praganj;596136 Wrote:
Luckily few months ago i downloaded and saved older modes...
Guess I missed those. Any chance of posting or linking to the info for
the software mods. I'll pass on any hardware mods.
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RadioClash
RadioClash;596614 Wrote:
Guess I missed those. Any chance of posting or linking to the info for
the software mods. I'll pass on any hardware mods.
Now really, you don't think that if the actual builders of the device
could improve things by simply changing the code that they won't?! Get
You can give me your money and I would influence your Touch from a
distance with my psychic powers trough the phlogiston or ether , I like
money $$$
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Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH
iPhone;596625 Wrote:
Now really, you don't think that if the actual builders of the device
could improve things by simply changing the code that they won't?! Get
real!
If one wants to imagine that they hear a difference afterwards, then
by all means software mod away if it makes one think
I totally agreed with you John.
Just hope Soundcheck will check his mind.
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Regards,
Bryan
SB Touch+EMM Labs DAC2
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Mnyb;596767 Wrote:
Does it really translates to measurable/significant changes at the
*outputs* of the Touch ?
Dramatic changes on the digital output is also claimed ?
Id love to see an audio diff maker test on these things.
These changes also include server-side changes to send FLAC
Nobody cares ?
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praganj;596384 Wrote:
Nobody cares ?
What keeps me back posting those modifications to the community is the
fear that
these might be misused or copied by others for different commercial
purposes.
I do have the feeling that I need to avoid this to happen.
go figure...
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You
Too bad
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Bryan
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Luckily few months ago i downloaded and saved older modes...
http://soundcheck-audio.blogspot.com/p/squeezebox-touch-great-base-for-network.html
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