That's strange. If you uninstall thunderbird are you able to install it again?
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> But why I had the package in the first place... I have no idea. I think
> maybe because I installed from a relatively old T8 image and updated
> afterwards. Instead downloading fresh image.
I do remember being able to install Thunderbird at one point when Trisquel 8
was in beta, so perhaps you
I think that a general free software forum is a good idea, but I'm not so sure
about the Trisquel subforum. There is already a Trisquel forum here, and I
don't see a benefit in moving some of the conversations here to a new forum.
This would require users to check both forums in order to fully p
> I'm looking to install GNU/Linux on a mid-2009 MBP (5,4). Which distribution
> would you recommend in terms of the greatest compatibility with the
> hardware? Ideally, I would want T8, but if certain hardware is not
> recognised by it, I would be stuck, wouldn't I?
I've never owned a crapbook, b
> What MBP models do your friends have?
The one running Ubuntu has a Macbook Pro Retina, from around 2013 I think. The
one running Trisquel is newer, from around 2015.
> Did they install the "third-party"
> software during installation of the system?
I don't think so, but he enabled the Restric
I've never done anything with panoramic images, but
$ apt-cache search panorama
libpano13-3 - panorama tools library
libpano13-bin - panorama tools utilities
libpano13-dev - panorama tools library development files
pandora - GIMP Plugin For Creating Panoramas
hugin - panorama photo stitcher - GUI
I'm pretty sure that the X230 can be upgraded to 16GB RAM, and it may be
possible with the X220. They cannot be librebooted, but they can be corebooted
and ME-cleaned. If you have the technical knowledge to flash Coreboot, this
will be as free as the most recent Purism laptop (the one with no ME
> what is that jenkins list?
Did you not use it to get Flidas beta images?
> is that somebody who keep a database of historical Trisquel iso releases?
If you want to try an older ISO that is where you'll find it. I'm not sure why
you'd want to do that now that Flidas is officially released. If
I can't replicate this. If I go to
Actions -> Join Group Chat -> Join New Group Chat
and fill out the form, initially only "Join this room automatically" is greyed
out, and it become selectable once I select "Bookmark this room". I wonder if
all XMPP servers support persistent rooms.
I doubt a
> ... what that means in practice is that Google is (indirectly) using
> sweatshop labour to train their machine learning systems.
Yep. No need to get their hands dirty. The economic system does the job for
them.
> If it's wrong when
> Nike and the Gap and Apple do it, it's wrong when Google do
> "The 'grub-efi-amd64' package failed to install into /target/. Without the
> GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot."
Try installing while connected to the Internet.
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> It would, but given how many people I've spoken to are able to rationalize
> this[1] I am not optimistic that such a discovery would hurt Google.
Forgot the link.
[1]
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/07/google-ai-us-department-of-defense-military-drone-project-maven-tensorflow
> Why do you think that will help?
My friend got an identical (or at least extremely similar) message when
installing Trisquel 8 on his Mac. We ended up reinstalling Trisquel several
times that night, and found that the problem only occured when we weren't
connected to the Internet. I don't act
> but anyway yeah seems like the clue was to have Internet connection, but why
> though?
No idea. I'm glad everything's working now though.
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Have you tried gnash?
$ sudo apt install gnash
$ gnash file.swf
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> One reason why I was leaning towards the x220 is because Ive heard a lot
> that its eventually going to get libreboot support, so if everything else is
> almost equal, the chance of libreboot would give the edge to the x220 for
> me.
A while ago Leah said she was working on the X220, but she lat
> Please show which parts of the FSDG those things violate:
> https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html
Bugginess certainly is not a freedom issue. However, the JavaScript in
google.com is proprietary. If a browser uses Google as its start page, then
even if the browse
> Thanks, please clarify, running a swf game in gnash is similar to running a
> nes game ROM in a nes free software emulator?
Running a proprietary game in a free software emulator doesn't address the
freedom issue either. An emulator doesn't give you the ability or legal right
to modify and red
I agree that the problem with JavaScript is a much bigger issue than the start
page of a broken web browser called webbrowser-app buried in the Trisquel repo.
> If we actually want to solve this problem, there's only one good solution:
> turn off JavaScript support in all supplied browsers (and o
> This may be an unpopular opinion, but I think if you're using a Web browser
> as a proprietary JavaScript interpreter (as most people do), it's really not
> much better than a proprietary Web browser.
I agree. Between Google Drive, Gmail, Facebook, and YouTube it is possible for
the average use
> Trisquel 7 has decent Hebrew support, but once annoyance is that the
> titlebar text is still anchored to the left, rather than the right.
> Does Trisquel 8 fix this?
You probably intended for this to be a new thread rather than a comment here.
Probably a mailing list bug. I suggest trying agai
> guile: warning: failed to install locale
> warning: failed to install locale: Invalid argument
It's possible to get rid of this warning if you find it annoying, but it is
harmless. I get that warning every time but have never had a problem related to
it.
> guix package: warning: Consider runn
It doesn't look like anything is wrong. Just let it continue. 'guix pull' can
take a while.
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Facebook is good to avoid in general. The exception is if you want to reach
people on Facebook in order to help lead them away from Facebook. Facebook
useds might not understand why Facebook is a problem if they are unaware of the
dangers of mass surveillance, so sharing Panoptoclick on Facebook
Also note that the EFF page does not suggest that anyone *join* Facebook, just
that if they *already* have a Facebook account to share the information to
other people who are still on Facebook.
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> For example FSF endorsed Purity which many people have many issues
> with, which I find understandable.
Are you referring to Purism? The FSF endorses freedom-respecting software and
hardware on a case-by-case basis. They don't endorse companies. The only
product of Purism's that the FSF has en
> E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
This is the message I get if I try to run pulseaudio *without* killing it
first. Are you sure that you ran 'killall' correctly. Paste this into a
terminal exactly:
killall pulseaudio && pulse
Try 'pulseaudio --kill' instead of 'killall pulseaudio'
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> You can also try to contribute for Parabola where you are now keeping
> upgrading the whole system timelessly, unless you need more stability then
> you don't suit Parabola that's a rolling system (not LTS like Trisquel).
I went through a versionitis phase, but I've since come to prefer LTS. I w
> After some changes I solved it by installing a package called Trisquel.
Not having the 'trisquel' metapackage installed during the upgrade could
certainly be a problem. In Flidas it has mate-desktop-environment and other
MATE packages as dependencies. Without it, the new desktop environment mi
> When I am trying to launch a video file with Totem, the application crashes!
> But then I am able to get **the audio back** ?!!??!
> Then I am able to launch the video file but with VLC
If Totem crashing fixes your audio, I guess you should add Totem to Startup
Applications so that it crashes u
> Can anyone please explain the advantages of Guix, for a n00b like me? I
> haven't researched too far yet, but it looks like the packages are similar
> to what I already have available from the standard Trisquel repositories.
Trisquel is a long-term support (LTS) distro, which means that when a n
> We
> should use precise language.
Yes, although in this case the distinction does not make much of an ethical
difference. DRM and proprietary JavaScript are both bad for freedom. Even if
the proprietary JS executed by youtube-dl does not constitute DRM, we should
not recommend it in this foru
> I admit JavaScript could be a problem with privacy.
Yes, all proprietary software is a problem, but invasion of privacy is integral
to Google's business model. We should assume that any proprietary software
developed by Google is not privacy-respecting.
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> Thank you for this awareness! :-)
happy_gnu is right that you probably want pulseaudio. However, it might be a
worth a shot to temporarily remove it along with any config files that could be
causing the problem, and then adding things back in one at a time.
Try removing pulseaudio with
$ su
> Purge removes too much, usually not only the package but things that depend
> on the package so it will break your system by getting rid of too much
> stuff.
'apt remove' also removes things that depend on the package. According to the
apt man page, the only difference between remove and purge
> My browser is js-less, meaning it is always mute anyway.
Files embedded with the html5 tag can be played back without JavaShit,
if audio is working in the browser. pulseaudio also integrates nicely with the
desktop environment. Without it rytege will probably lose the sound applet in
their p
> One could tinker for ever with Trisquel, and never find a solution, if the
> problem is actually dodgy RAM, or a dying hard drive etc ;)
Since the problem was introduced in a recent update, I think that the problem
is likely in Trisquel Also, audio began working again when Totem crashed, so
th
"The Licensed Materials being provided to you hereunder are being made
publicly available by TI, even though they contain copyrighted material of TI
and its licensors, if applicable. In no event may you alter, remove or
destroy any copyright notice included in the Licensed Materials. To the exte
> My two monitors are duplicating the
> display instead of extending as two separate displays.
Have you tried going to System -> Control Center -> Displays?
> Also: when it detects non-free software, is it always going to black screen?
No. Trisquel does not include proprietary software, but it d
To clarify, I got the looping message upon installing Trisquel, without
attempting to install any proprietary drivers. If this is the case for you then
you should problably do the blacklist thing, as in my case those messages were
logged and eventually filled up my disk space. However, if the me
> When going to Displays it only detects both monitors as one "Unknown"
> display. Pressing "Detect monitors" does nothing.
I don't have access to another monitor at the moment so I'm going from memory
here, but I'm pretty sure that when I plug in a second monitor via VGA it says
"Unknown VGA" s
> "Same image in all monitors" is grayed out. I don't think the OS is
> detecting one of the monitors at all; it just thinks there is one monitor
> going. I attached what the interface looks like.
I see. I thought you meant both monitors were showing up but onw was labled
"unknown." I'm still a l
Try installing the packages 'trisquel' and 'trisquel-recommended'.
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Thanks for the feedback. Assuming that you have completed every step on the
documentation page, including logging out and logging in again, can you next
try the following?
- Go to Control Center -> Startup Applications and see if Orca is in there. If
so, deselect it, log out, and log in.
- If O
None of those packages look problematic.
To clarify what's going on, Trisquel 8 uses MATE as its default desktop
environment, whereas Trisquel 7 and earlier used GNOME. The transition is why
the upgrade process is a little messy. The 'trisquel' metapackage installs
everything needed for the de
I'm glad everything is working now. Without knowing the last thing(s) you did
before your system started working I can't say what fixed it, but as long as
the problem doesn't return I wouldn't worry about it.
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> just go to Preferred Applications, choose 'Accessibility' and check out 'run
> at start' under Orca screen reader.
That's always worked for me, but willbprog127 says they've already tried that.
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> Hi guys do you suggest me to upgrade the Trisquel version(7) in my card ?
Trisquel 7 is supported for another 8 months, so you don't need to upgrade now
if you're happy with T7 but will eventually have to get around to it.
> And how ? thank you.
First make sure that the packages 'trisquel' an
> I mean how to upgrade the bootable image on the FSF membership card
Sorry, I should have read more carefully. I wasn't familiar with the membership
card until now, but it appears to be a regular USB drive in the shape of a
credit card. You should be able to install Trisquel 8 on it the same wa
> Reading this five pages you can run Icedove - Enigmail - Thorbirdy without a
> problem even with your disgusting gmail account.
Back when I had a disgusting Gmail account, Google would lock my account for a
few hours almost every time I accessed it using Torbirdy. Also, every time I
used Icedo
> System suspends or hibernates nicely
Then a temporary workaround might be to map[1] those commands to keyboard
shortcuts. When I get home I'll install GNOME and look into getting it to
suspend when you close the lid. In the meantime, see if you can find anything
about behavior when lid is clo
> Actually, even suspend doesn't always work. All is good with Mate though so
> it's pretty frustrating.
I won't have time to investigate any further for next few days, but if no one
else has helped you by then I'll look into it. In the meantime, I suggest
suspending and hibernating manually usi
Although Signal is free software, it cannot be built without Google Play
Services. So you are "free" to modify it, but only if you are willing to use
proprietary software to do so. It might still be preferable to Telegram,
however.
See:
https://forum.f-droid.org/t/signal-discussion-about-google
If you're still having this issue, try editing your power preferences with
dconf-editor instead of gnome-tweak-tool and see if they have an effect. The
power settings in dconf-editor are under org -> gnome -> settings-daemon ->
plugins -> power.
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I currently use the host of my website, but eventually plan to self-host and
run my own mail server.
If you're looking for an alternative to Screwgle, posteo.de seems like a good
option. It's not gratis, but if you can afford the 1 Euro/month paying with
money is better than paying with your pr
> "I see no reason for Trisquel's developers to waste their time on a dead
> project like Unity."
>
> You mean like Gnome 3?
I don't follow. The reason Unity is dead is because it was abandoned in favor
of GNOME 3.
> To be blunt, I don't get why people like it.
I don't like it either, but I ca
> What about Wire? Anybody know anything bad about Wire?:)
Both the client and server-side software are free, and it does not have any
proprietary dependencies, so it suffers from neither of the issues with Signal
or Telegram. If your modified version is used to connect to their servers there
a
> Like for example: how do I even know if my version is modified or not? And
> how it is modified?
I was referring to freedom 1. Wire is free software, so you are free to modify
it. Depending on the nature of your modifications you may not be able to use
your version with their servers. If you a
What's the package name? I don't see anything called gnome-videos or anything
similar.
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Are you able to actually play any of the Apple trailers? I get an error: "Could
not initialize the supporting library", but this could be due to an unrelated
bug. My impression from this forum is that totem is buggy in general, at least
in Trisquel.
If the videos can be played without non-free
> By the way, Videos is a great way to search and view YouTube videos
> without proprietary JavaScript. My only gripe is that it fetches
> videos in MP4 format instead of WebM, so it won't work on stock Fedora.
I haven't tried this, but if totem uses youtube-dl/avideo as its backend for
accessin
> All from a simple right click and from within caja. I still have
> not found a solution for secure deleting files, I am still using the CLI
> for that.
By secure delete do you mean 'srm' from the secure-delete package? I'll answer
your question assuming that's what you mean. If not, this will s
> Does anyone have an 'easy to follow'
> tutorial for flashing some of the thinkpad models?
Most require external flashing, which I'm afraid to try. However, the X60 can
be flashed internally. I was fortunate enough to coincidentally already have an
X60 when I discovered the free software moveme
> Hey there. Yes, I know I can create many right-click-shortcuts in caja, but
> I don't want to go through the trouble of doing that for every single thing
> that I want an option for. Especially since in Nautilus I already had
It sounded like Caja-Seahorse had provided everything you needed excep
> There are similar problems afflicting the Wire app for Android
...
> However, the Wire devs acknowledge it's a problem, and have said that
> fixing it is on their ToDo list
Thanks for the information. I'm glad they at least agree that it's a problem.
> Signal is a walled garden run by a person
A few weeks ago I installed Trisquel 8 on a friend's laptop. His Realtek
RTL8188EE Wireless card was immediately detected and worked fine until
yesterday. NetworkManager still detects the card, but no wireless access points
show up in nm-applet or nmcli. This is the first case I've encountered i
> how do you discern a
> 32-bit from a 64-bit model?
If you already have access to the machine then jxself's answer works. If you
want to know in advance of purchasing one I think you'd have to just ask the
vendor.
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> I guess the first question is what changed between yesterday and today?
> Because something clearly did.
> It would be good to check through the logs to see what is happening.
I agree, but he can't recall any changes, and he's out of town and can only
communicate by text message, so troubleshoo
> Similar behavior was reported in January by Magic Banana:
> https://trisquel.info/fr/forum/testing-trisquel-8-upgrade-process#comment-125668
Thanks. It seems that the conclusion in that thread was that the WiFi card
should not have worked in Trisquel. Maybe jxself's suggestion of trying 4.16
> However the graphical installation is so agonizingly slow
> that I threw in the towel (10-30 or so minutes per step, then seemingly
> indefinitely at step 3 or 4, with the CD whirring and the whole thing
> starting to overheat).
I often ran into that with the Trisquel 7 graphical installer. The
Never mind. He says WiFi is working now, from a new location. Maybe it was a
problem with the access points he was trying. Sorry for the noise.
When I have a chance to look at his computer I'll look into whether or not the
working WiFi is a freedom issue.
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> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
> gnome-software : Depends: libsnapd-glib1 (>= 0.9) but it is not
> installable
libsnapd-glib1 was removed due to a freedom issue[1] whereby snap was
recommending non-free software. gnome-software had also been recommending
non-free software[2]
> Patch the software so it doesn't do the offensive thing. Don't just
> rip it out.
In general I agree that this is preferable, but this takes time. Ruben only has
so much, and it's probably better spent on other things than snap and
gnome-software.
It looks like most of the software available
> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
> gajim : Depends: gir1.2-gtk-3.0 (>= 3.22) but 3.18.9-1ubuntu3.3 is
My expectation is that if you try to install 3.22 you'll lack dependencies for
that, and if you try to install those dependencies you'll lack dependencies for
them, etc
From the changelog[1] for 1.0.0:
"Ported to GTK3 / Python3"
I suspect that the move to gtk3 is what added the gir1.2-gtk-3.0 >=3.22
dependency, so I set out to build the previous version of Gajim (0.16.9). There
is still one outdated runtime dependency (python-nbxmpp) but since this package
ha
> And this new version of Gajim still won't send image files to SMS
> contacts.
Are you referring to the Flatpak version, or the version I explain how to build
in my other comment? If you mean the latter, the version of Gajim is not the
problem, as I am now able to send pictures from Gajim after
> /home/cal/Downloads/#trisquel/JMP-compatible Gajim/gajim-0.16.9
> error: unsafe
> absolute working directory name
The script doesn't like the "#" in the file path. Your choices are to (a)
rename #trisquel, (b) build somewhere else, or (c) modify line 2462 of the
script. I advise (a) or (b). T
> It's not available in WebM, and Fedora can't ship with MP4 support.
If you add the rpmfusion repository[1] (only the free one, of course) you'll be
able to install free software that Red Hat can't ship due to patent
restrictions. I'm not sure whether or not this includes media players built
w
To clarify, I'm only suggesting this as a workaround, not defending proprietary
formats. I agree with J.B. Nicholson's suggestions above.
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> I'd be interested to hear any
> suggestions in trying to find and strip out the non-libre parts from
> openSUSE. Possibly it's just an impossible task, but I think it would be fun
> to try.
Plasma shouldn't be a problem. It's LGPL and included in Trisquel. Since you've
already taken care of the
> I would imagine that some of
> openSUSE's "OSS" packages aren't going to meet the strict FSF definition of
> libre. This will take some time to audit their packages and see what's truly
> free and what's not.
Yes, I had suspected that this would be the case. If you are interested in
auditing so
> I've finally ordered an Atheros AR5B95 WiFi card, with which I'll replace the
> Intel WiFi
I received and installed the Atheros card yesterday. After using it for a day,
I absolutely recommend doing the same if you buy an X60. It connects much
faster and maintains connections much more reliab
> It kept recommending Spotify and Skype and
> so forth, no matter what settings I tried.
In Trisquel? If so it should be reported as a freedom issue.
https://trisquel.info/en/project/issues
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The package name in Trisquel is plasma-discover. I just installed and tried
running it and got an error:
"Error: Invalid item (item was 'null'). This might indicate that the item was
deleted outside StackView!"
but that might be because I was running it from MATE and don't have the full
Plasma
> In terms of using Trisquel as a 'Server' OS, can you recommend the best way
> to go at this; i.e. a minimal console only installation for management over
> SSH, no Desktop Environment etc.
It sounds like you'd be best of with the netinstall. It's the fourth option on
the download[1] page.
[1]
> Does this allow you to choose which components
> you want/need to install when run?
I've never used it myself, but I think that's the idea.
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/using-netinstall-image-bootable-usb-drive
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> Modifying Software to fix this problem would be a very nice thing indeed.
> Until then, it's probably easiest to just stick to other tools. Do
> contribute to a solution, though, preferably as far upstream as possible.
Unfortunately, upstream probably sees it as a feature rather than a problem.
It looks like Debian testing introduces a plugin[1] for Snap integration, which
Ubuntu has included[2] since 17.10. If this means that Ubuntu has removed Snap
integration from gnome-software itself, then p
erhaps this will not be an issue in Ubuntu 18.04/Trisquel 9.
In the meantime, I was intere
> This program requires Python requests 2.2.0 or later.
The the way this message is written makes it easy to misread, but the package
referred to is actually not python, but python-requests.
$ apt show python-requests | grep Description
Description: elegant and simple HTTP library for Python2, b
Crap. I just realized that my somewhat long message never went through.
Resending:
It looks like Debian testing introduces a plugin[1] for Snap integration, which
Ubuntu has included[2] since 17.10. If this means that Ubuntu has removed Snap
integration from gnome-software itself, then p
erhaps
> The snap
> package plugin is absent
Do you mean that gnome-software-plugin-snap is not installable with non-free
and contrib disabled?
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> I wonder what would happen if I install
> it manually.
I'm interested to know. Do you mind trying and letting me know?
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> After installing the Snap package plugin, I restarted the system and then
> browsed each category. I didn't see any non-free software immediately. The
> listed packages were largely the same, with or without Snap package plugin
> installed.
Sounds like the situation is better than it is in Ubunt
> Did the Replicant/Android SDK get into Trisquel?
$ apt-cache search android-sdk
android-sdk - Software development kit for Android platform
android-sdk-build-tools - Tools for building Android applications
android-sdk-build-tools-common - Tools for building Android applications -
Common files
a
> Sorry. I already deleted Gnome after testing the snap plugin (and
> subsequently re-installed MATE).
No worries. Thanks for testing as much as you did. I'd have done it myself, but
sadly virtualizion is the one thing I've run into where my 2GB RAM is not
enough.
> Again, I agree that we need
> However, when I tried to search snap packages using "snap find" command, it
> DOES return (suspected) non-free software such as spotify. I also tried to
> run "snap find google" and got a long list of suspected non-free software
> related to Google's SaaSS.
>
> Though Debian users cannot install
> Not on Trisquel 7. Either you have another Trisquel version, or
> you have added sources to it.
Correct. I run Trisquel 8.
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> But is it complete, or broken?
I've checked to make sure that it's installable, and it is. You can probably
figure out how well it works faster than I could since you have a use case.
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If I remember correctly, the relevant setting in about:config is
"privacy.resistfingerprinting".
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