1.Signification 2. Being 3.Within God
Lance
From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Judy
wrote:Bill we need to give credit where credit is
due.I am using spiritual words to communicate spiritualtruths and
both of these come to me by way of theHoly Spirit. Not the Nicene
Fathers.
I think the principle that you have lost sight of is
From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Judy
wrote:Why would you think Bill's belief more
importantthan that of Perry, Terry, Vincent, Kevin, Laura,and the
others? The teacher is Jesus and he canspeak through all or any part of
the body he wants to; it'sup to us to discern what is of him and
John says Although He had emptied Himself of the nature of God
What scripture supports this theory?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 3/12/2004 8:44:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It helps me understand the IncarnationGood point and amen. For me, the life of
Are you impying Father Superior has a tinge of Lucerferic Doctrine?Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Judy wrote:Why would you think Bill's belief more importantthan that of Perry, Terry, Vincent, Kevin, Laura,and the others? The teacher is Jesus and he
From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Judy wrote:Why would you think Bill's belief more
important than that of Perry, Terry, Vincent, Kevin, Laura, and the others?
The teacher is Jesus and he can speak through all or any part of the body; it's
up to us to
discern what is of him through the
Jud's answer is in her question; they're all equal.
If this is indeed the case then, she shouldn't be disagreeing with anyone! All
of her replies could be a simple AMEN. Lance
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In a message dated
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It
helps me understand the Incarnation
Good point and amen. For me, the life of Christ (and his ability to
resist sin as a man [like me]) makes clear my own
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Leviticus 17:11,14 states for the life of the flesh is in the blood” Since
the life of man is in his blood and man must die because of sin, it can be
stated that there is death in the blood.
The very fact that sin affected the blood of man (his life) necessitated the
virgin birth of Christ
Okay, Judy, I'll turn my other
cheek.
You say, "Why is it so difficult to believe that
God is able to create a holy child in the womb of Mary?"
I say, it is not difficult for me to believe
this. In fact, it is just what I do believe. What I don't accept is
adefinition of
Oops, I just sent an archived post. Sorry, you can
disregard it.
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From:
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Subject: [TruthTalk] Please hear me out
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Okay, Judy, I'll turn my
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Do you kind of get what I'm saying? I hope you do, because it speaks to what I like about you. I'm not advocating error, but I want to go to that abounding grace. I think that's where we find Christ. Don't
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ok;but if not
Aristotle's,what are the philosophical premises of your theology? Do you
prefer Plato?
G ~ P
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On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 06:26:39 -0700 "Wm.
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Oops, I just sent an archived post.
Sorry, you can disregard it.
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On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 07:45:40 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Leviticus 17:11,14 states for the life
of the flesh is in the blood”
Since the life of man is in his blood
and man must die because of sin,
OK so far.
it can be stated that there is death in the blood.
I
Philippians 2.5-11 -- (5) Your attitude should
be the same as that of Christ Jesus: (6) Who, being in very
nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, (7) but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness. (8) And being
Vincent: When Paul wrote: "I have crucified the flesh with it's
passions
and desires (Galatians 5:24) was he talking about killing himself,
committing suicide?
judyt
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Judy
Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]writes:
Leviticus 17:11,14 states for the life of the flesh is in
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Wm. Taylor
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Sent: March 13, 2004 12:40
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Please hear me
out before ousting me.
Hi G,
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3/13/2004 3:44:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John says Although He had emptied Himself of the nature of God
What scripture supports this theory?
John:Kevin, understand that I
am not standing in concrete on this idea that
In a message dated 3/13/2004 7:20:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What a remarkably transparent email!! All should undertake to pray for this meeting today with his son. Blessings, Lance
Actually, I will be at his house on Sunday evening. He and I will be together all of
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dated 3/12/2004 9:50:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Did
anyone notice the dots / periods after some of the sentences? This
looks a little fishy to
me.
Actually, this
is a very good observation. It is also interesting to me that
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writes: (All scripture citations below are from RSV) judyt: vince gave you 11 scriptures
(and there are two or three times that many).
You seem to have disposed of them fairly easily by quoting one
scripture.
Rather than back quoting any scripture,
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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writes: Malachi he
says "I am the Lord, I change not"
john: Actually, judyt, you apparently misquoted this verse.
Apparently it says, I am the Lord, I change not my mind."
jt: Whatever, it is a statement of truth and it is saying that God does
No, he was not talking about suicide.
How is that relevant to a sinful nature residing in human flesh?
Does my answer to your question prove that our Adam-generated flesh is
inherently without sin? What about all of the scriptures which I cited;
don't they show that the notion that
On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 18:23:00 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
jt: I want to know if Vincent is aware that there are two kinds of flesh;
so it is not the
physical body only even though it is the same Greek word for both and the
same
# in Strongs Concordance.
vince:
Are we not
If you take scripture to be only written words, then when Moses penned the
pentateuch would have been the first time it was recorded (provided he
indeed penned it) as far as I know. However, there has been law from the
beginning. There was the law that Adam and Eve violated, then the laws of
Now I will amaze my enemies and astound my foes by saying something
positive, and quite perplexing, about the BoM. I understand it contains
chiasmus. Chiasmus is an ancient hebrew poetic form present in the KJV. Now,
do you think JS was aware enough of chiasmus and smart enough to add it to
I was rebuked a while back because I was
"dichotomizing" the idea of personhood, when I should have been "trichotomizing"
like the Bible does. Well, actually I was doing neither; rather I was arguing
toward the idea of integration and away from all forms of spirit/body dualisms,
as if we
This will seem like a stupid question to some. It seems like a stupid
question to me. I feel stupid for asking it, but I must have an
answer. This is not a joke. I am serious as a heart attack. Here is
the question.
Would there be anything wrong , when celebrating communion, with
Wm. Taylor wrote:
I was rebuked a while back because I
was "dichotomizing" the idea of personhood, when I should have been
"trichotomizing" like the Bible does. Well, actually I was doing
neither; rather I was arguing toward the idea of integration and away
from all forms of
no doubt about (e.g.)Plato's
continuing influence on culture/s,Bill; much different, however, then that
of the HS, whoseinfluence isperhaps *unknown* by comparison--or
shall we say*unexperienced*? any Idea/s why?:)
On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 10:40:40 -0700 "Wm.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. There you go. You get the
prize. That's the right word for us to use,
because when we use it we do not automatically think in terms of body first and
spirit second. When the fathers were working through a way to speak about the
participants of the Trinity, they did
Terry, if it was grape jelly, then you would not even need the juice,
right? So, if you have a grape jelly donut at the social hour before church,
then you can skip communion. Makes sense to me.
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Bill,
What does salvation of the soul (1 Peter 1:9), to destroy the soul
(Mat 10:28), dividing asunder of soul and spirit (Heb 4:12) and whole
spirit and soul and body (1 Thes 5:23) refer to?
These verses all imply something that exists apart from (but integrated
with) the spirit and body
Well what do you do with this verse then?
1 Thes 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Soul spirit can not be the same thing since they can be separated: Heb 4:12
I'm not quite sure what you're asking here, so I'll
go in two directions. Firstly, let me say, and I'm sure you will agree, that
Jesus has and continues to influence people who do not believe he is Messiah.
Nevertheless there's no getting away from him. He is Lord!
Secondly, let me also say
\o/ !HALALUYah! \o/
Greetings Bill et al in the Matchless NameofYahShua!!
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From: Wm. Taylor
Sent: 03/13/2004 8:02 PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Soul searching.
I was rebuked a while back because I was
"dichotomizing" the idea of personhood, when I should
I am not going to make an argument that the scriptures did not exist before Sinai, as you suggest.
Sincethe scriptures obviously, DID exist before Sinai.
What scripture existed during Pharaoh's time?
Rom 9:17For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh
You downplay God's ETERNAL WORD.
Maybe it is time to
I am not going to make an argument that the scriptures did not exist before Sinai, as you suggest.
Sincethe scriptures obviously, DID exist before Sinai.
What scripture existed during Pharaoh's time?
Rom 9:17For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh
You downplay God's ETERNAL WORD.
Maybe it is time to
Look Chris is turning TRINITARIAN
God form a Body
God breathed formed a spirit within
and he became a soulChris Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
\o/ !HALALUYah! \o/
Greetings Bill et al in the Matchless NameofYahShua!!
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From: Wm. Taylor
Sent: 03/13/2004
\o/ !HALALUYah! \o/
Greetings Perry et al in the Matchless NameofYahShua!!
It's a l-o-o-o-o-o-n-g story Perry ...
SHORT VERSION:
The reason the BoM sounds like KJV is because BoM is primarily a novel from
a minister who was trying to make a buck by writing his novel to sound like the
Just food for thought, Perry.
Do some study here and see if you don't come to what I'm suggesting.
Salvation of the soul is the whole person. Destroy the soul is the whole
person. Dividing asunder the soul and the spirit is death. The division
of spirit and soul, the joints and morrow is a figure
What about those tricky Italicized words in the KJV?
II Samuel 21:19 "And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaaroregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam." (check yours maybe it
Thanks Chris,
'Glad to come aboard.
Bill
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Chris Barr
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Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 8:20
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Soul searching.
\o/ !HALALUYah! \o/
Greetings Bill et al in the
But you are suggesting that we are a dichotomy
The verses I posted are clear
William said But as to whether we are trichotomous beings, with spirit, body, and soul, I would have to disagree.
1 thes 5 tells us we are body soul spirit some suggest soul and spirit are the same. I simply posted Heb
No, I am not suggest that. A dichotomy is
by definition a separation. I'm saying you can not do this without
killing the person. We are integrated souls. The dualisms and dichotomies and
trichotomies of your framework is Classical Gr. philosophypenetrating and
imprisoning your thoughts.
Bill, Apparently,your point is
that 'many..Spirit-filled Christians' are stupid, butthe
smartChristiansare enraptured with 'personal knowledge and the tacit
dimension'..Thanks--this
helpsto better understandthe conversation/s you're having
here.
G
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On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 20:14:24
Now, now, G. That's taking some
liberty.
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Bill, Apparently,your point is
that
prove it, Bill--ftr, i fined tuned it a
little bit, below :)
On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 21:40:02 -0700 "Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Now, now, G. That's taking some
liberty.
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I'm perfectly happy to use soul as a word -- don't get me wrong. But
let's use it like the Bible does. It's a way of describing personhood in
the presence of God. But as to whether we are trichotomous beings, with
spirit, body, and soul, I would have to
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