Well there is the broad road and the narrow way -
everyone is on one or the other but only one of them will lead to life.
Defining what the word Christian means is neither
here nor there. jtBill Taylor wrote:
I have been contemplating lately
whether I need to broaden my own definit
I have no idea what you are talking about Bill.
First you might define what you mean by "hermeneutical criteria"
and then tell me how I hold your feet to the fire and
excuse myself, because to me this is nothing but an unfounded accusation.
You say there is no such thing as "spiritual death"
Peace to you, Judy. We have been down this road
before. I was just checking to see if you had the integrity to hold your own
feet to the fire by employing the same hermeneutical criteria toward yourself
that you do against those whose beliefs differ from your own. No surprises here,
you don'
DAVEH: I wish I could think of stuff like that, JD. Nice to see Izzy
get a jab in the ribs now and then. I'm too timid to tickle the
whiskers of that sleeping catÂÂ
:-)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/11/2005 9:25:29 AM
Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>John
wrote:You apparently teach that Christ was at one time not the Son.
DM:It is not my teaching, but the teaching of Judy that came via Finis
Dake, Adam Clarke, Albert Barnes, etc.
Judy Taylor wrote:Correction David. This is what I
believe at this
It's the Word become flesh in the life of David Miller
John and this should be normal Christianity. jt
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 02:44:27 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 1/10/2005 5:01:06 PM Pacific
Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We are who we are. Jesus told m
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Izzy in red:
JD,
while some of us judge doctrine, your words seem to judge people on TT
.
I find no manner of rudeness written towards, DaveH, and I’m sure
he will attest that he feels quite among friends on TT. Izzy
DAVEH: Though I suspect
Yes, according to scripture He became all these
things "in the fullness of time" judyt
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:38:32 -0700 "Bill Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Nice spin, Judy, but David not say anything about
the "Old Covenant." He said, quote, "More properly, it might be said
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:27:04 -0700 "Bill Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
O poor poor John,
If it will make you feel better, I will go so far
as to say that there is no explicit scriptural support for the idea of
"spiritual death." This idea came to us via the wake of the
Nice spin, Judy, but David not say anything about
the "Old Covenant." He said, quote, "More properly, it might be said
that there was a time when the Logos was not
the Son of David, was not the Son of Man, was not the Son of God, was
not the Christ, was not Messiah, was not Yeshua, was not J
How sad John,
"Unto the pure all things are pure, but unto them that
are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure but even their mind and conscience
is defiled. They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being
abominable and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate" (T
From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Perry wrote:
A mormon prooftext. Claim that men become gods, then find some scripture
that seems to support it. This type of activity occurs in Mormonism
because the LDS regard the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and covenants
to be the prime documents in
jt: Correct David. Those are all the things He is not
called under the Old Covenant but
there is another list He is identified with that
goes back to from "before the
foundation of the world." I'm just learning about
Adam Clarke and Albert Barnes
The latter is profiled in a Closer Walk dev
jt: JOHN a dead baby is not
my problem. I have a Heavenly Father whose nature and character is love and so
I
leave all those kinds of problems with Him cause
I don't have to know everything. However, what about the babies of the
Amorites and these other nations God was so disgusted
with? I
jt: I don't know about "fun" Slade. It's
serious business to student's of God's Word as it was to the astrologers or
whoever they were who travelled so far to see the child Jesus; also to
Simeon and Anna. Do you see Isa 9:6,7 as something other than "future"
Slade? Should "shall and wil"l
Hey Lance, what's up? I miss your 13.61%
contribution to TT. Is everything okay?
Bill
PS Please send the Bish and me a date for Jackson,
MS!
David, I broke your statement down into parts and answered accordingly:
More properly, it might be said that there was a time when the Logos
1) was not the Son of David, -- Yes.
2) was not the Son of Man, -- Yes.
3) was not the Son of God, -- No. The Logos was always the Son of the
Father.
4) was
O poor poor John,
If it will make you feel better, I will go so far
as to say that there is no explicit scriptural support for the idea of
"spiritual death." This idea came to us via the wake of the
Augustine-v-Palagius controversy.
In fact I also know that Judy, if she is going
to be c
Yes, David, this is a very telling omission.
Bill
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 5:02 PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] ACLU Website edits out religion from the first
amendment
> Notice how the ACLU edits out freedom of religion w
Thanks, Slade. It was well worth the wait. Would
you agree with me that in light of God's fuller self-revelation of Father, Son,
and Holy Spirit in the New Testament, there is very solid evidence upon which to
conclude that echad in Deuteronomy, as it relates to the oneness God,
and as it is
Thanks, David.
I was climbing mountains one time near Canyon City, Colorado at about 9,000
ft above sea level, and found hundreds of rocks with sea shells fossilized
within them. I thought, Wow, how did those sea shells get way up here? The
theory, I was later told, is that those mountains had bee
In a message dated 1/10/2005 10:07:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Actually, some of the brethren at Corinth, perhaps, believed in more than one god but served only one - someone might try reading I Cor 8.
DAVEH: Vs 6...
But to us there is but one Go
In a message dated 1/11/2005 7:26:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You apparently teach that Christ was
>at one time not the Son.
It is not my teaching, but the teaching of Judy that came via Finis Dake,
Of course this is your teaching you have been debating t
In a message dated 1/11/2005 9:25:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This IS a discussion group, not an agreement farm !!
John
Looks more like a funny farm to meâIz
That might change when you retire.
JD
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From:
Dave Hansen
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:25
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related
#2
DAVEH: Like most words, there is more than one definition of
Christian. Some (such as myself
In a message dated 1/11/2005 11:19:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am not aware of any pure Christian sect.
I am not aware of any pure Christians.
JD
Preacher
Dies During Sermon About Heaven
Jan 10, 10:43 PM (ET)
OVIEDO, Fla. (AP) - A Presbyterian minister collapsed and died in mid-sentence
of a sermon after saying "And when I go to heaven ...," his colleague
said Monday.
The Rev. Jack
SLADE'S NEWEST RESPONSE...
Your last response about the sign of Jonah is the
same argument made by the ridiculous false prophet Daniel John Lee (may God
not forget his iniquity).
Slade, I’m curious—why did you
say that? Aren’t we supposed to walk in forgiveness, etc, etc? Just
My previously happy ex-wife's mother, tried to cast an
evil spirit out of me. She stop her
debate with me, at the breakfast table with bibles opening and hearts
churnning, squinted her eys. look streaight trough me and
said "Some out of him, come out of
him."
The soul that sinneth, it shall die -- is
not a true statement for those who are in Christ.
JD, then
by your theology there will be very few in hell, and most everyone in heaven—correct?
Izzy
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Children of God?
> Bill Taylor wrote:
> > This, I believe, is John's point vis-a-vis
> > Romans 2. A Gentile may live his entire
> > life (especially back t
-Original Message-
From: David Miller
Sent: Monday, 10 January, 2005 11.26
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement
DAVIDM...
Well, I am not one of those kinds who says, "I AM A PROPHET." As I said
before, I tend to be one who runs from the call when it comes (like
-Original Message-
From: David Miller
Sent: Monday, 10 January, 2005 11.34
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement
SLADE ONCE SAID...
> ... there is a grace I can give since you are
> not a prophet ... You see, we all have Yeshua
> dwelling within us, and Yeshua IS
David writes in reference to Jesus' statement,
"Before Abraham was, I AM" > To surmise that this statement in
some way means that he was begotten of God and was the son of God prior to his
incarnation is to read one's theology into the text. Nothing here
indicates that he was the son of G
:)
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From:
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Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005
21:04
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related
#2
In a message dated 1/11/2005 4:43:53 PM Pacific
Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
In a message dated 1/11/2005 4:43:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jeff Powers wrote:
>Terry,
>I'll give ya that one, but remember paybacks are coming!
>Jeff
>
>
>
>
>>My mistake Jeff. I did not realize that you were a slow learner.
>>Sorry.
>>Terry
>>
In a message dated 1/11/2005 4:57:09 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ah but Kay my wifes sister in law answered my question about the 144,000.
When I asked her if she was one of the 144,000 she replied "No" and then I
asked her why she bothered then. Thats when she called me
In a message dated 1/10/2005 11:42:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I thinkcorrect me if I'm wrong, John
that John is saying that a child is "saved" when he is born. A newborn is not cast into hell because he wasn't "born again". A child who dies goes to heaven...unt
In a message dated 1/10/2005 11:55:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
jt: Unscriptural John. How did he get born saved since everyone is born into a "fallen creation" (sin) in the first Adam. The scriptures teach that God saw us in Christ before the foundation of the world (
In a message dated 1/10/2005 5:19:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bill, I believe that if you repent of your erroneous theology the Lord may rebuke the demons from your computer. I cannot help you in any other way than to give you that advice, as apparently my computer (and
In a message dated 1/11/2005 4:55:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Please yourself John.
Excuse me ?? !! I am afraid to ask what this means... but I feel another grin comin on !!
JD
In a message dated 1/11/2005 9:04:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Isn't that the same thing Catholics say? You go to hell unless you're
Catholic? And JW's? Aren't they like the 144,000 and if you aren't one of
them, you go to hell? There is no church who can lead its members
Remember to point out the mud slides in California the other day next time
David! Thats no bend in the river either! Good point.
Jeff
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 15:20
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Creationism
Bill Taylo
In a message dated 1/11/2005 8:41:34 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John wrote:
>I Cor 8:4-7 -- we were talking about
>"many gods" -- remember? I thought this passage
>kindof supported DH when he spoke of those who
>believe in other gods. The first church had i
In a message dated 1/11/2005 8:28:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
He asked for people's def
Ah but Kay my wifes sister in law answered my question about the 144,000.
When I asked her if she was one of the 144,000 she replied "No" and then I
asked her why she bothered then. Thats when she called me Satan! The beauty
of it all is that she has never spoken to me since! But I still talk to
In a message dated 1/11/2005 7:47:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think when Parry used the term "Smithism," he was referring to the
doctrines of Joseph Smith, not John Smithson. :-)
Yes -- you are correct, Sir !! I have taken care of that..my mistake. I ten
Yes,
basically it has nothing to do with it. "Begot" is a terrible translation. Two
different languages
--slade
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TruthTalk@mail.inng
Slade Henson wrote:
Only Begotten" means "unique."
-- slade
I evidently need a little help here Slade. Does the word "Begotten"
have no relation to the word "Begat"? Do both not relate to child
birth? I understand that "only" means "unique". Does this mean
something o
Thank you for the temporary mercy. :-)
Terry
Jeff Powers wrote:
Terry,
I'll give ya that one, but remember paybacks are coming!
Jeff
My mistake Jeff. I did not realize that you were a slow learner.
Sorry.
Terry
-
Terry,
I'll give ya that one, but remember paybacks are coming!
Jeff
Life makes warriors of us all.
To emerge the victors, we must arm
ourselves with the most potent of weapons.
That weapon is prayer.
--Rebbe Nachman of Breslov
- Original Message -
From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Notice how the ACLU edits out freedom of religion when talking about freedom
of speech on their website. They make the point that it probably is no
accident that freedom of speech is the first freedom mentioned, but they
seem oblivious to the fact that freedom of religion comes first in the
ac
John wrote:
>>> You apparently teach that Christ was
>>> at one time not the Son.
DM:
>> It is not my teaching, but the teaching of Judy
>> that came via Finis Dake, Adam Clarke, Albert
>> Barnes, etc.
Judy Taylor wrote:
> Correction David. This is what I believe at this
> point but it did not co
Hello,
Judy. Please understand that there is no past, present, or future tense in the
Hebrew Scriptures. We can infer past or present or future by perfect and
imperfect tenses, but prophesy...? It breaks a lot of the grammar rules. It can
be fun as long as you don't get dogmatic about it.
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>John
wrote:You apparently teach that Christ was at one time not the
Son.
DM: It is not my teaching, but the teaching of Judy that came via Finis
Dake, Adam Clarke, Albert Barnes, etc.
jt: Correction David. This is what I believe at this
point but
The Oneness of
YHVH vs.
Plurality
One of the greatest
arguments against the concept of the deity of Messiah is that YHVH is an absolute ONE. With this concept,
there is no room for the Ruach haKodesh[1] or Messiah[2] as being YHVH as well. The
Antimissionary movement uses this argument t
I still have not heard any quotes from any Authority in some of the
"sects" that claim to be the O.T.C.
It has been asserted that ALL groups claim to be the O.T.C.
Not so, I do not think there are any
Can ANYONE show where the groups below have ever said they are O.T.C.?
Baptists?
Presbyterian
Please DaveH
Hear my plea, I desparately need a definition of Mormonism
How else can we compare definitions?
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LOL! Our condolences, Terry. J
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Terry Clifton
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005
2:23 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: [TruthTalk] [Fwd: Fw: I
just don't look good naked any more]
Subject: I ju
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Terry Clifton
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005
2:12 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon
Related #2
David Miller wrote:
I am not aware of any pure Christian sect. Peace be with
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David Miller wrote:
I am not aware of any pure Christian sect.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
===
I am planning on starting one as soon as I can find time. Keep those
love offerings pouring in. We need a building fund ( and a yacht).
Terry
Very good points, Perry. I agree. Izzy
I believe that despite the teachings of the RCC, there are those who
find
Christ, and put their faith in Him for their salvation. But, I think
many of
the RCC may be lost. Actually, I feel a similar way about LDS. I
believe
there
Subject: Ted Kennedy - when will he learn?
<>Last week... making a fool of himself yet again Ted Kennedy said:
<>
A "torture" known as "waterboarding"
(where the enemy combatant's nose is dunked under water in a scare
tatic to simulate drowning) is being practiced by the US m
Bill Taylor wrote:
> In a free moment down the road will you speak
> a few words to the recent discovery in, I believe
> it was, Montana, where a T-Rex was found and
> discovered to have been preserved with blood
> still in its composition? Are you familiar with this?
> The limited information I ha
DavidM,
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I consider them "Christians" because they embrace the Biblical testimony
that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life, and that no man may come to
the Father but by him.
Which Jesus? The eternal word that became flesh through a miraculous
birth
My mistake Jeff. I did not realize that you were a slow learner. Sorry.
Terry
Jeff Powers wrote:
Wrong Terry,
I have had the pleasure of dealing with Mormans for many, many years.
Also a few
No, David, I didn't.
You do realize, though, that Messi's are the only real Christians,
right???!!
:)
K.
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Sent: Tuesday, 11 January, 2005 14.19
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTal
Kay wrote:
> Geez, we went from dangerous to
> evlBetter watch it, Johnny-Boy
> we just may eat Pentecostals for snacks! :)
I hope you did not perceive me to be calling Messianics dangerous. My
position is that the Messianic movement is of God, but there are some within
Yes, I
know. As am Iwe would not eat Pentecostals for snacksUNCLEAN! UNCLEAN!
Sorry, but Pentecostals just aren't koshernot for food consumption
anyhow!
Kay
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent:
In a message dated 1/11/2005 10:43:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Geez, we went from dangerous to evlBetter watch it, Johnny-Boy we just may eat Pentecostals for snacks! :)
AND, as Pentecostal so often do, we will be raised to fight another day.
I do not glibbly accept Dave as a Christian -- it is based upon his
answer to a question I asked about Christ. In word (script), he
expressed my faith.
JD
A matter
of grave concern for the discerning. Izzy
Benny
HindEnd...too funny.
I
don't think the Jews of the first church called themselves Christians. I believe
they called themselves...Derechimfollowers of the way.
Geez,
we went from dangerous to evlBetter watch it, Johnny-Boy
we just may eat Pentecostals fo
In a message dated 1/11/2005 6:13:41 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why would you want to be accepted as a Mormon?
Kay
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Sent: Tuesday, 11 January, 2005 08.11
To: TruthTal
In a message dated 1/11/2005 5:19:54 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So then what is your purpose in looking "to" the heart?
How is looking to the heart accomplished?
The scripture does not say you can look to the heart as long as you judge not.
It says men look on the ou
In a message dated 1/11/2005 5:30:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Cool story, John.
Bill
Isn't this the really cool thing about that story: the art of 'practicing the presense of God in one single act that does not end.'"
Man, I like that and o
Street Preachers. :)
Most of them make like this. I heard a cultish type make the claim many
times. I also heard one of his "followers" claim someone was going to the
Lake of Fire and he was going to be the one to push the other man into it.
>From the Catholic encyclopedia:
"Moreover, the Christi
In a message dated 1/11/2005 5:13:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
OK OK
What do you think?
If I accept DAVEH as a Christian do you think he would accept me as a Mormon?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/10/2005 11:51:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PR
Perry wrote:
> Do you believe that the jesus and god
> that LDS teaches are the Jesus and God
> that the Bible teaches?
The Mormon testimony is that the Jesus and God of the Bible is the true
Savior through whom we receive the redemption of our sins. I accept that
testimony.
The Mormon testimo
LOL : ) Good one, IZZY
--- ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't really care that they allegedly exclude me
> from their church.
>
> Obviously, Dave himself doesn't exclude fellowship
> with the people here even
>
> though they are not part of the Mormon church.
>
> Kay
> And sp
"We cannot accept that any other church can lead its
members to SALVATION." (The Masters Church, Course
A, Mormon Sunday school text.)
We are not talking fellowship, we are talking "NO
SALVATION OUTSIDE THE LDS CHURCH"
That is Pretty EXCLUSIVE
Groups that claim to be O.T.C. (ONE TRUE CHURCH)
J
I don't really care that they allegedly exclude me from their church.
Obviously, Dave himself doesn't exclude fellowship with the people here
even
though they are not part of the Mormon church.
Kay
And spiders don’t mind “fellowshipping”
with flies, either. J Izzy
Maybe
he's slow or forgot...he did say he was getting up there in age. Alzheimer's? I
would think it would only take a few seconds to give it to him
again.
Kay
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He’s had it before. Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Slade Henson
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005
10:22 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon
Related #2
He asked for people's definition of
Christian. I gave
Dave Hansen wrote:
> ... discuss why you think Jesus would have offered
> PS 82:6 as a defense against those who were
> accusing him of equating himself with God?
John 10:31-39
(31) Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
(32) Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my
I don't really care that they allegedly exclude me from their church.
Obviously, Dave himself doesn't exclude fellowship with the people here even
though they are not part of the Mormon church. Christianity encompasses a
whole lot more than just one sect. Baptists, Lutherans, Catholics, Mormons,
Je
OK
Is not what is good for the goose good for the gander?
They exclude you from the "ONE TRUE Church"
Why can't we exclude them from "Christianity"
If they believe they are so right in the "ONE TRUE
Church" Why are they so insistent on becoming part of
"APOSTATE CHRISTIANITY"?
--- Slade Henson
DavidM,
We have discussed this here before. Do you believe that the jesus and god
that LDS teaches are the Jesus and God that the Bible teaches? If so, then
say hi to your brother Lucifer, and your
once-a-man-now-a-god-from-the-planet-kolob father. If not, then why do you
consider them Christ
I think they can think what they want. Doesn't necessarily mean they're
right.
Kay
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Sent: Tuesday, 11 January, 2005 12.14
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Definition of Mormo
DaveH
Question was Abraham a Christian?
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Bill Taylor wrote:
> LOL, David, be sure to pull out your trusty Encarta
> the next time you need a theological explanation
> for a biblical term.
LOL. I was very surprised to find the word there. I thought you might find
it interesting, and especially looking at its definition, it might help
Yes, same line.
Birds of a feather flock together.
What do you think of "we are the ONE TRUE CHURCH"
And since you are outside that church where does it
put you?
Church Authorities say you are either Mormon or you
are without salvation.
It would seem you are either a Mormon or YOU are
without
Dave Hansen wrote:
> ... some tend to want to take a very narrow
> view in an effort to exclude others from their
> club, so to speak. I am rather amused that
> most of those wishing to adopt a very strict
> definition are usually unwilling to share that
> definition. It makes me wonder why they
Isn't that the same thing Catholics say? You go to hell unless you're
Catholic? And JW's? Aren't they like the 144,000 and if you aren't one of
them, you go to hell? There is no church who can lead its members to
salvation. Salvation is grace through faith.
Kay
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From: [E
1)
This Church is the only true and living church upon
the face of the whole earth there is NO SALVATION
outside the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day
Saints. (Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, Page 670)
2)
"We cannot accept that any other church can lead its
members to SALVATION." (The Ma
He
asked for people's definition of Christian. I gave one. He realizes everyone has
different definitions for christian. He wants to know yours.
K.
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ShieldsFamilySent: Tuesday, 11 January, 2005
John wrote:
> I Cor 8:4-7 -- we were talking about
> "many gods" -- remember? I thought this passage
> kindof supported DH when he spoke of those who
> believe in other gods. The first church had it believers
> as well.
But 1 Cor. 8 makes it clear that those who perceived that there
Awesome post, David! Izzy
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John 1:18 also continues the "Word made Flesh" theme from
four verses earlier. The idea is that man hath not seen God, but man has
seen the only begotten Son. Why? Because the son o
Kay, in the past nine years this has been
explained to DaveH “ad nauseum”. It’s a ploy. Why
don’t YOU try to get through to him? Izzy
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Bill Taylor wrote:
> This, I believe, is John's point vis-a-vis
> Romans 2. A Gentile may live his entire
> life (especially back then) and never have
> an occasion to hear the name of Jesus Christ,
> let alone respond to him in faith;
Have you read Tom Wright on Romans 2? Do you depart from Tom
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