[TruthTalk] Re:Judy on ...well....Judy

2005-11-26 Thread Lance Muir
Thanks. You illustrate my central point. This is why I continue to say that your intent is not as perceived by some. I DO BELIEVE IT IS NOT YOUR INTENT TO HURT OR WOUND. BTW, I also believe that you do not write to accrue to yourself allies. However, you have them in Kevin, Terry, David,

Re: [TruthTalk] Charles Perry Lock says 'A totally arrogant and insensitive reply, IMO' of Dave Hansen

2005-11-26 Thread Lance Muir
He (TS) was the last of a dying breed, Dave. - Original Message - From: Dave To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: November 26, 2005 00:19 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Charles Perry Lock says 'A totally arrogant and insensitive reply, IMO' of Dave Hansen DAVEH:

[TruthTalk] On taking offence where none is given

2005-11-26 Thread Lance Muir
It reveals more of the one(s) who feign offence than the purported offender.An acquaintance of mine asked the other day about the distinction between fundamentalists and evangelicals. Part of what I had to say in response was that 'fundamentalism' is to be found in every faith and

RE: [TruthTalk] On taking offence where none is given

2005-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
Im just feeling badly because I asked DaveH a personal question to see how far mormon adherence to the rules actually goes (and from which I expected a Yes, No, or MYOB!), and have apparently inadvertently opened the gates of Hell. The acrid fumes of sulphur are really smelling up the

RE: [TruthTalk] Calvin's beliefs are of Satan, he was an evil man says Dean

2005-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
Jude, youve once again hit the nail on the head. Good job. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 12:37 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Calvin's

Re: [TruthTalk] On taking offence where none is given

2005-11-26 Thread Lance Muir
'Off-line' amen! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: November 26, 2005 06:18 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] On taking offence where none is given I’m just feeling badly because I asked DaveH a personal question to

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Judy on ...well....Judy

2005-11-26 Thread Judy Taylor
Here we go again - with you illustrating my point made below as well. All five of this mornings linesconsistare solely of your diagnosis and personal opinion about persons who are members of this list. On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 05:48:41 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks. You

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-26 Thread Taylor
Read and noted, thanks, Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man'

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Judy on ...well....Judy

2005-11-26 Thread Lance Muir
Should there be any intrinsic value in this activity whatsoever Judy, it'd be this: Those who respond to you, ITO, 'in kind', IMO, are mistaken. I am, believe it or not, speaking on YOUR behalf. (Yes, I do understand that you are not in need of me doing so). Most all successful

[TruthTalk] One Question

2005-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
Okay, time for a new subject. You are assigned an angel whose mission is to answer one, and only one, question that you would like to ask God. What is your question? iz

Re: [TruthTalk] One Question

2005-11-26 Thread Lance Muir
Lance's question:Shall there be, ultimately, universal reconciliation? (Even the humanly constructed Geneva convention decries the torture of acknowledged enemies) Wow! If this doesn't draw attention then, nothing will. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To:

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Judy on ...well....Judy

2005-11-26 Thread Lance Muir
Linda:Please accept the following as a serious question: Are these (issues/personalities -the persons expressing the issues) separable? - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: November 26, 2005 07:08 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk]

RE: [TruthTalk] Re:Judy on ...well....Judy

2005-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
I would say Yes, of course. Truth stands independent of those seeking and/or discussing it, does it not? iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 6:19 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re:

RE: [TruthTalk] One Question

2005-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
Do you mean reconciliation between every person on the earth, Lance? IMO, there will never be universal reconciliation, as there will be eternal separation between the forces of light and darkness. What do you think? What does everyone else think? iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] One Question

2005-11-26 Thread Lance Muir
What do I (Lance) think? I'm a 'wanna be universalist'. How's that for a conversation starter/ender? - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: November 26, 2005 08:01 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] One Question Do you mean

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
Not my spelling just my typing skills my 2 typing fingers trip over one another especially when I hit speeds of upwards of 10 words per minute! It is a good thing I do not get paid for my typing skills at work.(hit the key to the left of d)sepends one of the most difficult to type words

Re: [TruthTalk] DaveH's Reply to the Controversy

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
What difference does it make why the LDS folks in SLC are offended by the likes of you waving their underwear around like fools. The point is that you are offending them (not me) by doing such. As Perry suggesteddon't you think you owe them an apology? May I quote you? DAVEH: ??? Huh? Just

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread David Miller
JD wrote: ... I would venture the guess that not a single translator, if asked to give an opinion on what Bill has written (in plain English, by the way, Terry) would dispute his commentary. Where in the world do you think Bill T came up with such ideas? You think he just made them up

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Judy on ...well....Judy

2005-11-26 Thread knpraise
You are kidding, of course !! rol !! -Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 06:08:00 -0600Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Re:Judy on ...wellJudy I think what Judy would like is to have us discuss issues, not

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-26 Thread knpraise
While you are busy defending yourself , did you get my point? -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 05:28:14 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore Not

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread ttxpress
askDavidMs (brainwashed?) wife about this subject, Bro--she knows the drill, all about the absurdity of life minus human experience--tell her how beautifullyher childrenentered the world exclusively by the Word of God minus human experience--and now DavidM denies this is hishuman

Re: [TruthTalk] Fithy LDS garments

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
As Bible Believers, we take the Bible as without error. The Bible commands us to preach to every man. It also calls us to Reprove Rebuke (2 Timothy 4:2). 2 Tim 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
What is your point? You are INTREATING me? Your point is you have no hope of dealing with the issues and haveRUN out of caricatures and false accusations so you must get the focus on other things.You have not answered my questions either. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:While you are busy

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread knpraise
There are a couple of things that could be said about "descriptive duratives" in view of the literal translation of "being sanctified"and all -- I say all -- that Bill had to say on the subject.but first things first -- I couldn't find your reference in Robertson'sGreek grammar.Perhaps a page

[TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect.

2005-11-26 Thread Dean Moore
cd:My advice is for Izzy to show this to here husband-and let him resolve this matter. Then the snake in the grass will learn respect for a decent women and not to try and speak to her as one would a whore. He is not sorry for anything-as he has no morality.Don't even know right from wrong and

Re: [TruthTalk] On taking offence where none is given

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
The Temple garments are ALL about MODESTYLance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It reveals more of the one(s) who feign offence than the purported offender.An acquaintance of mine asked the other day about the distinction between fundamentalists and evangelicals. Part of what I had to say in

[TruthTalk] Fw: McClooneyism

2005-11-26 Thread Lance Muir
- Original Message - From: Lise Struthers To: 'Lance Muir' Sent: November 26, 2005 08:46 Subject: McClooneyism Being the movie buff you are I thought you might like this. Lise McClooneyism National Post, November 25, 2005 Peter Foster The movie Good Night, and Good Luck is

[TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect

2005-11-26 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/25/2005 10:50:48 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Izzy's Sexual Experiences-Charles? Hey tough guy, it was Linda Shieldswho open the door to this thread -- not DH. cd: Hey lost man, it was Dave who took it into

RE: [TruthTalk] DaveH's Reply to the Controversy

2005-11-26 Thread Dean Moore
[Original Message] From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Date: 11/25/2005 7:32:45 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] DaveH's Reply to the Controversy A totally arrogant and insensitive reply, in my opinion. cd: The local people in the Blue Ridge Mountains

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread ttxpress
..isn't temptation a human experience? explain it otherwise, bro On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 06:50:29 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: askDavidMs (brainwashed?) wife about this subject, Bro--she knows the drill, all about the absurdity of life minus human experience--tell her how

Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect

2005-11-26 Thread Lance Muir
Linda: Would you be so kind as to e-mail Dean personally? However you choose to handle this, may we ask for it (the non-issue, IMO) to disappear from TT as a public discussion? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: November

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
You can't finda greek grammar that will disagree with what hehas said. DM shoots down your false accusations and now it is YOU THAT CAN NOT FIND!"Apparently you have not consulted too many grammars." OUCH!JD why not stop the foolishness and start having a real conversation?[EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread Lance Muir
You should never has ceased being the moderator of TT 'G'!! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: November 26, 2005 08:50 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor askDavidMs (brainwashed?) wife about this

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-26 Thread knpraise
You know, I was going to take time to answer two of your longer posts. I saved them for that purpose. But, as it turns out, I realized yesterday that I am talking to a person who defends the Received Text (that would be a greek thingy) while, at the same time, having no regard whatsoever for

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread ttxpress
..how is one tempted exclusively by the Word of God? On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 07:14:43 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..isn't temptation a human experience? explain it otherwise, bro On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 06:50:29 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: askDavidMs (brainwashed?) wife

Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect

2005-11-26 Thread ttxpress
what's her husband gonna do, file a(nother) law suit?is therean end to legal actions he'd be taking to protect his reputationfrom his wife's? On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:17:25 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Original Message - From: To:

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Judy on ...well....Judy

2005-11-26 Thread David Miller
Judy, instead of comparing your writings with those of Lance and John, ask yourself whether or not there might not be more room for graciousness in writing things like, "God has spoken" or "amazing how the devil jumps in and shuts it down." It may be that your comments are warranted, but

Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect.

2005-11-26 Thread knpraise
First , your last sentence sounds like any number of people I know. Secondly - I am a husband who would defend his wife even to the point of violence. I missed the part where DH spoke to Linda as if she were a whore. Where was that statement? And why are you taking offense at something for which

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread ttxpress
and grammar itself--does it not facilitate the expressiveness of both God and man? let's see you right wing wackos,w/o absurditity, remove the human experience from the grammar of the NT On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 06:25:59 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || -Original

Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect

2005-11-26 Thread knpraise
Am I talking to a Christian or a tough guy? One is the new man and the other, the old man. Which is it Deano. Again, and I fully believe this to be the case, you are using this circumstance to sound tough and threatening. This is about nothing else just macho deano. So get back on

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
Translation I was gonna but I am NOT able. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You know, I was going to take time to answer two of your longer posts. I saved them for that purpose. But, as it turns out, I realized yesterday that I am talking to a person who defends the Received Text (that would be a

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance Mur says: I have a sense of DaveH that he ain't got it in

2005-11-26 Thread Dean Moore
[Original Message] From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Date: 11/26/2005 1:27:30 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lance Mur says: I have a sense of DaveH that he ain't got it in Yet more arrogant drivel. cd: I say we kick his arrogant butt off this

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Judy on ...well....Judy

2005-11-26 Thread ttxpress
for what purpose, to impress the Word of God with yourdisdain for human experience? On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:33:23 -0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: be.. a little more subtle and you will come across as being more intellectually urbane. :-)

RE: [TruthTalk] Lance Mur says: I have a sense of DaveH that he ain't got it in 'em

2005-11-26 Thread Dean Moore
:-) [Original Message] From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Date: 11/25/2005 8:49:58 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] Lance Mur says: I have a sense of DaveH that he ain't got it in 'em Lance, the principle I was taught is that when you offend someone you

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Judy on ...well....Judy

2005-11-26 Thread Judy Taylor
Have a good laugh on you - But actually she is right on!! Because in all of this judging after the flesh you are blindly doing exactly what you decry in Romans 14 On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 08:47:00 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are kidding, of course !! rol !! From: ShieldsFamily

Re: [TruthTalk] Warning to corrector/revisors

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
WARNING for BIBLE CORRECTORS Words are important even the "S" at the end of a word (Remember EVERY JOT TITTLE not even one "IOTA" will be lost!) is important some have erred by not paying attention to the letter "S"! LetterS, Jots Tittles even IOTA's are IMPORTANT! HOW THEY MISSED ONE

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread knpraise
Just to clarify. My Robertson's has a listing of scriptures discussed. Heb 10:10 and 10:14 are not on that list. I am thinking they are a part of a secondary discussion in the book and that is why they are not on the list. I don"t know that but I am giving David the benefit of the doubt. I just

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance Mur says: I have a sense of DaveH that he ain'tgot it in 'em

2005-11-26 Thread Dean Moore
[Original Message] From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Date: 11/25/2005 9:55:38 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lance Mur says: I have a sense of DaveH that he ain'tgot it in 'em I would like to apologize to everyone for not being offended. I feel so

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread Judy Taylor
Why not allow DavidM's wife to speak for herself? You have introduced gossip and heresy here. Were you invited to bepresent for the birth of their children? On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 06:50:29 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: askDavidMs (brainwashed?) wife about this subject, Bro--she

Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect.

2005-11-26 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/26/2005 9:35:52 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect. First , your last sentence sounds like any number of people I know. Secondly - I am a husband who would defend his wife even to the point of

[TruthTalk] Imputed Righteousness is Essential Doctrine

2005-11-26 Thread Andrew C. Bain
Today, I came across a quote that I would like to bring up for discussion: People can be saved in varying degrees of theological error. There are regenerated people who do not understand predestination, don't accept election, don't understand federal headship, are clueless about imputation,

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-26 Thread knpraise
You got it !! -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 06:45:36 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore Translation I was gonna but I am NOT able. [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Judy on ...well....Judy

2005-11-26 Thread Judy Taylor
You practice this David and it does not appear to help you with Lance, John, or Gary, but thanks for the suggestion. On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:33:23 -0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy, instead of comparing your writings with those of Lance and John, ask yourself whether

Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect.

2005-11-26 Thread ttxpress
ask her (and her husband if he's interested)if they were humanor exclusively of the Word of God(?) On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:08:49 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent:

Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect

2005-11-26 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/26/2005 9:43:02 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect Am I talking to a Christian or a tough guy? Well that where you are wrong-we are not talking.One is the new man and the other, the old man. Which

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread ttxpress
interesting idea--she can tell us in her own wordshow childbirth goes without human experience On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:05:21 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why not allow DavidM's wife to speak for herself?

Re: [TruthTalk] One Question

2005-11-26 Thread Judy Taylor
Judy's answer is - In the light of God's Word ... No there will never be "universal reconciliation" ... ever The Geneva convention decries a lot of things but has no power to stop them iethe rapes in Uganda Sin is and will be a problemso long as men love darkness more than light - they judge

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance Mur says: I have a sense of DaveH that he ain't got it in

2005-11-26 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Dean, As *moderator* I do not think banning Dave at this time is called for. Perry From: Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lance Mur says: I have a sense of DaveH that he ain't got it in Date: Sat,

Re: [TruthTalk] One Question

2005-11-26 Thread ttxpress
hopelessness; it arises from zero and falseEschatological perspective On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:27:17 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy's answer is - In the light of God's Word ... No there will never be "universal reconciliation" ... ever ||

Re: [TruthTalk] One Question

2005-11-26 Thread Judy Taylor
Judy's question: Why do some ppl find it so hard to accept what they can not change? God's Word has been settled in heaven It is what it is. He does not change and neither does His Word. Yet so many appear to believe they could do it better leaving themselves open to massive deception.

Re: [TruthTalk] One Question

2005-11-26 Thread Judy Taylor
Yes ... Hopelessness in the false premise Rejoicing in the real On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 08:39:04 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hopelessness; it arises from zero and falseEschatological perspective On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:27:17 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect.

2005-11-26 Thread knpraise
Like I said -- and it is becoming even more obvious: this is not about anything but Dean making it clear that he is the toughest guy on the block. You want to come out here? We can go to the North Gym and roll around on the mat for awhile. I could use a good work out partner. As far as making

Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect.

2005-11-26 Thread Judy Taylor
JD why do you so consistently keep stirring the pot even after an issue has been resolved? Izzy dealt with the issue long ago Dean put forth his suggestion The Moderator has spoken It is now a non-issue, finito - finished - resolved You are wasting mental energy On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:49:55

Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect.

2005-11-26 Thread knpraise
You think Dean's "suggestions" indicate finality? I don't. But -- is there anything else to be accomplished ? For me, not after my invite memo to Dean and his wife. I find it interesting that your post was not forthcoming with Dean's "make me" post. but enough said is something I agree with.

Re: [TruthTalk] One Question

2005-11-26 Thread ttxpress
some day the lamb will be friends with the lion: universal reconciliation eschatologically, its a promiseof God's On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:46:53 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes ... Hopelessness ||

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread David Miller
You are carrying my comment into absurdity. What I said was written in the same vein as "we walk by faith not by sight." I'm not denying my engagement with the human experience. I'm talking about where my heart and confidence is. I can either choose to walk by the Word of God or by my

RE: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect

2005-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
FTR, my husband chose not to be offended. He has experienced much greater offense than such tasteless banter in the real life violation of his first marriage. Perhaps that puts other things in perspective. I would hope so, as Ive experienced it, too. There truly is a great big difference

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: McClooneyism

2005-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
I dont pay to see movie stars who are venomous, liberal, anti-American, Bush-bashers. Sorry Lance. Iz (Oh, nonow we have to put up with more Dylanisms from Gary. Brace yourself!) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, November

Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect

2005-11-26 Thread Lance Muir
SHALL WE ALL MOVE ON AT THIS POINT? Thanks Iz! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: November 26, 2005 11:22 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect FTR, my husband chose not to be offended. He has experienced

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread ttxpress
wanna describe your engagement? On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 11:19:44 -0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not denying my engagement with the human experience.

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread David Miller
You are probably looking at the wrong index. Also, 1934 is the copyright date, not the edition. We have been over this edition stuff before in regards to Thayer. I hope we don't havea repeat here. The publisher is what is important when you get down to page numbers. My copy is from Broadman

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread David Miller
Actually, Caroline would probably give God glory in how the Word of God has worked in our child birth experiences. She seemed to have avoided the curse of pain in childbirth, and our children entered the world in a truly beautiful manner. Nevertheless, I think Gary's point is that I am a

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Judy on ...well....Judy

2005-11-26 Thread David Miller
LOL! You makea good point, Judy. Peace be with you.David Miller. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Judy on

RE: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
Gary you are not that masterful, even, at twisting the words and meanings of others. David Miller never said we should not have human experiences. He said we should not judge Gods Word according to such. Of course you would miss that point. izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [TruthTalk] One Question

2005-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
True, but only after the bad guys and sin are locked up in hell. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:04 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] One Question some day

RE: [TruthTalk] Imputed Righteousness is Essential Doctrine

2005-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
I can certainly agree with you this far, Andrew. izzy Today, I came across a quote that I would like to bring up for discussion: People can be saved in varying degrees of theological error.

RE: [TruthTalk] Re:Judy on ...well....Judy

2005-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
Thats why you are incapable of a simple Yes or No. You recognize no boundaries between Truth and the folks seeking it. Truth is not what we collectively decide it to be. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, November 26,

RE: [TruthTalk] One Question

2005-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
You ARE a universalist, Lance. So wish for something else. There will never be Peace on Earth until the Accuser locked away along with sin and death. Iz Think Whirled Peas From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, November 26,

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread Lance Muir
FWIW Debbie, who read this exchange, believed that Gary intentionally misrepresented you. I, on the other hand, do not. - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: November 26, 2005 11:37 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]

RE: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oh the wisdom of the womeniz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 11:08 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor FWIW Debbie, who read this exchange, believed that

RE: [TruthTalk] One Question

2005-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
Perhaps it is difficult sometimes to believe that God would settle things so seemingly unfairly. Perhaps that is because we are only experiencing our current pain, and not yet able to focus upon and trust in His future, higher, more important, invisible plans. I think He understands that

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread knpraise
My 1934 editionis from Broadman Press as well. The page number was suffienct information, David. Thank you. jd-Original Message-From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 11:30:37 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor You are

Re: [TruthTalk] One Question

2005-11-26 Thread Judy Taylor
In the New Jerusalem with those who make the final cut which is after death and hades have been cast into the lake of fire. The promise you are hanging to is one of your own making. On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:04:09 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: some day the lamb will be friends with the

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance Mur says: I have a sense of DaveH that he ain'tgot it in 'em

2005-11-26 Thread Terry Clifton
I would like to apologize to everyone for not being offended. I feel so guilty. Terry cd: Little wonder as it was not you wife who was asked these questions-What if someone did-How then would you feel then-Also the sinful undertones of such a question angers the Holy

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread ttxpress
i'm not misrepresentingthis statement either; DavidM ain't seen JC nor the Father, and, even if he has, he's no better than Moses who's no better than Paul neither of whose ministriesisqualified bysubjective, dualisticabsurdity--whatever we've seen of God is visable to anyone else who's

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread Judy Taylor
Of course you are ... and what's more he is better than Moses. Jesus said John the Baptist (not Moses) was the greatest under the Old Covenant and the leastin the Kingdom are greater than he which would include DavidM's wife Caroline. I don't understand your continual tanget about dualism

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread ttxpress
absurdly subjective as usual--Moses, who like JtB,actually sawJC, is (also)'humble'--check it out, he was unusually humble; by contrast, DavidM ain't even seenJC and is absurdly arrogant; JtB, by the way, was 'great/est' because he terminated the the reign of the Mosaic law (as Moses

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance Mur says: I have a sense of DaveH that he ain'tgot it in '

2005-11-26 Thread Charles Perry Locke
So, Terry, if I understand you correctly, your sense of humor is such that it is titillated by someone asking Izzy about her sexual experiences, and suggesting that I know something about them, even humorously, especially before your Christian peers? Hmmm. From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread ttxpress
ftr, thiswould betrue--as someone suggested, let her speak for herself On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 15:22:33 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the leastin the Kingdom..would include DavidM's wife Caroline

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
Translation:I still don't get it![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You got it !! -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 06:45:36 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says

Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect.

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
Knowing Dean personally, he is not one to feign anything. He is deeply concerned with holiness and I believe I can testify that he lives it too. I would not assume anything as far as the mat either.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like I said -- and it is becoming even more obvious: this is not

Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect

2005-11-26 Thread Dave
DAVEH: I'd like to thank you and the other TTers who may be doing just that, Izzy. I've had the distinct impression that some TTers do pray for me.and, I'm sure I need it. Thanx again. ShieldsFamily wrote: Id rather use my breath to pray for DaveH than to curse him. izzy

FW: [TruthTalk] 63% of church going teens believe it is possible to climb up some other way....

2005-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 5:00 PMTo: truthtalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: [TruthTalk] 63% of church going teens believe it is possible to climb up some other way A Strange Faith -- Are Church-Going Kids

Re: [TruthTalk] 63% of church going teens believe it is possible to climb up some other way....

2005-11-26 Thread ttxpress
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:00:24 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A Strange Faith -- Are Church-Going Kids Christian?|| On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 15:22:33 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..he is better than Moses. they ain't too impressed withyour prophet? what's

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread knpraise
whatever we've seen of God is visable to anyone else who's looking, even one's lowly wife this , I believe , is an extremely important statement. I couldn't agree more. "Enlightenment" when used to imply knowledge that is not available to anyone who cares to look is nothing less than mythology

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread ttxpress
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:20:17 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: whatever we've seen of God is [visible] to anyone else who's looking, even one's lowly wife this , I believe , is an extremely important statement.. ||

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance Mur says: I have a sense of DaveH that he ain'tgot it in '

2005-11-26 Thread Terry Clifton
You misunderstood, my friend. My sense of humor was not tittilated. I did not even find it funny. I simply recognized that it was offered as humor with no intention of denigrating Izzy or you. Like I told CD, some people have their button pushed more easily than others. You see a reason

Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect.

2005-11-26 Thread Dave
DAVEH: I hope you don't mind me intruding on your discussion with John, Dean. Since you are referring to me and since the subject line is obviously meant to highlight what I may or may not have said, I feel it is within my right to respond to your accusations. DUH-Tell us of your sexual

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance Mur says: I have a sense of DaveH that he ain'tgot it in '

2005-11-26 Thread ttxpress
insightful T--the 'if' is for wisdom's sake On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:48:16 -0600 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:[If] You see a reason to see Dave as someone with a filthy mind. I do not.

Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect.

2005-11-26 Thread Dave
Then the snake in the grass will learn respect for a decent women and not to try and speak to her as one would a whore. DAVEH: FTR.Let nobody misunderstand me on this. I highly respect Izzy, and in no way consider her to be a whore. If you want to think of me as a snake in the

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