He is God and we are not.
DAVEH: In a previous post, you had answered No. when I asked you if you
believe we have divine roots. I realize that we are not God, but yet I
believe there is a relationship we can have with God that encourages us
to become like him. I assume you do not recognize
IOW, acc to the HS,
through the Holy Bibles on many ppl's shelves, JC, the son of God, or, of the
Father, God, himself, is God, Bro
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:53:16 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
myth [(one bible writer's later epistle says,
interestingly) "God has said,
'Never
myth [(one bible writer's later epistle says,
interestingly) "God has said,
'Never will I leave you..'; &, acc to the
Ap John, JC said this:'..I will not leave you.. ']
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:50:04 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:||[DavidM:]> Jesus is Christ, the Anointed
Good night , David. Don't tell your wife any jokes. She just might get angry.
jd
-- Original message -- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > LOL. Yeah, John, I thought that was funny. The Scriptures are profitable > for reproof and correction and instruction,
Nope. I have only 8 fingers, too, but I have not taken that number into consideration of the trinity, either.
jd
-- Original message -- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Have you considered the temple menorah too? > > David Miller. > > - Original Messa
first , you quote I Cor 5:1-13 which tells us that God judges those outside the church. And now, you go to something else since that didn't work. Acts 17 and Acts 2 do not sound like rebuking to me.
Stephens words do - but He spoke to those who were about to kill him - and they were of
LOL. Yeah, John, I thought that was funny. The Scriptures are profitable
for reproof and correction and instruction, to make the man of God perfect.
WHAT IF WE ARE QUOTING SCRIPTURE TO SOMEONE WHO IS NOT A MAN OF GOD? Maybe
that's why Scripture won't bring the issue to resolution! Yeah, that
Drop it David. My conversation with you is just that.
jd
-- Original message -- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > None of her concern? We were talking about her, and about my ability to > read her. A wise man receives correction, but a fool becomes scornful. >
Have you considered the temple menorah too?
David Miller.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and "biblical language"
I don't use apocalytic
You say this: Of course, the> Scriptures won't help if you are dealing with someone who is not a man of God. :-)
And you find this funny? You see this as a opportunity for a tongue in cheek defense? Well, this is getting ridiculous.
Ten four,
jd
-- Original message --
I don't use apocalytic literature to construct my doctrine. I do have an answer and it has to do with my view of the use of numbers in the Bible. I do not care to have an exchange with you concerning this, however.
I am currently working on several other [biblical] issues and do not have the
The following sounds like a rebuke of the heathen to me:
Acts 17:29-31
(29) Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think
that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and
man's device.
(30) And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now co
Great !!
-- Original message -- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I know that you say that you do not believe that one must be right to be saved, but you do not realize that I do not believe one is saved by embracing the right philosophy. One is saved by fai
We are going petty and I am not going to do it any more, David. Got it !!
jd
-- Original message -- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The entire post was included, John. Here we go again. I'm beginning to > think that not only do I have trouble understanding y
Yes, there is everything wrong with that. YOU ARE NOT IN CHARGE . That's what's wrong with "that." Grace belongs on the streets and rebuking belongs in the church - your scripture below verifies this conclusion.
Paul is neither on a street corner preaching the words of 5:1-13 nor does
David, you have misquoted me several times over the past two years. And I understand you more than you apparently know.
But let's move on, shall we. It's going to get nasty and we don't need to do that.
I have an address and phone number. Keep it private.
jd
-- Original
None of her concern? We were talking about her, and about my ability to
read her. A wise man receives correction, but a fool becomes scornful.
David Miller.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, January
You just don't know me, JD. If I delivered the sentence in person, you
would see a smile, and maybe even a laugh. I have to admit too that my
tongue was pressed firmly against my cheek with that sentence before the
smilie. I'm just trying to lighten things up a little.
David Miller.
- O
The problem with the word "Trinity" is that it assume Three. What do you do
with texts that speak about the Seven Spirits of God?
David Miller.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 9:57
Judy wrote:
> ... otherwise civil government would be pointless
> and we would be living in total anarchy.
ROTFLOL!
You sure do have a way of making a point. Do you preach at your church from
time to time Judy? If not, you should. Yes, you definitely should. :-)
David Miller
- Origina
The entire post was included, John. Here we go again. I'm beginning to
think that not only do I have trouble understanding you, but you have
trouble understanding your own writing. :-)
Jesus did not rebuke those who were already children of God. He rebuked
Pharisees and hypocrites whose fath
I know that you say that you do not believe that one must be right to be
saved, but you do not realize that I do not believe one is saved by embracing
the right philosophy. One is saved by faith in Jesus Christ, which results
in righteousness being imparted to the believer apart from works.
IThis is none of your concern, Judy. Go correct one of your kids or something.
jd
-- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:08:41 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I respectfully disagree. jd
About what JD?
He is righ
In modern times, the call goes out, "say not that you are Catholic, say not you have a pope, say not you are Baptist, or Methodist, or Lutheran, or Presbyterian. God is able to raise up children from this sidewalk. Judgment is coming and every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and ca
-- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:47:47 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You often have trouble quoting our very words in a given post - and you expect us to believe
that you can speak for the likes of Judy Taylo
JD wrote:
> When we insist on such an evidence for the Indwelling,
> artificial time limits are put into effect and we become
> the administrator of continuing fellowship. .
So, is there something wrong with that? Paul wrote:
1 Corinthians 5:1-13
(1) It is reported commonly that there is forn
JD wrote:
> You often have trouble quoting our very words
> in a given post - and you expect us to believe
> that you can speak for the likes of Judy Taylor?
I have never misquoted you or anyone else. What you object to is my
pointing out aspects that escape your own understanding.
JD wrote:
>
Why in the world do you put a "happy face" behind a statment that you do not intend to be funny or even tongue in cheek? You do it often and it is never funny.
jd
-- Original message -- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Wrong again, Lance. You have overlooked
JD wrote:
> ... when we repeatedly say "Once again you
> have misrepresented our words," you become
> even more convinced that you "read us just
> fine !!!???"
You are the only one I remember saying that, and it is because you can't
tell the difference between when someone quotes you and when t
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:08:41 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I respectfully disagree. jd
About what JD?
He is right on. I do believe that unregenerated men
can decide to stop doing
something they are told is wrong otherwise civil
government would be pointless
and we wou
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:47:47 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You often have trouble quoting our very words in a given post - and
you expect us to believe
that you can speak for the likes of Judy Taylor?
Why get all over him JD when you are doing the exact
same thing here
The problem with Debbie's analysis is that this street preacher does not
herald a call from immoral living to moral living without Christ. Rather,
the call is to turn from immoral living to a relationship with Jesus Christ.
It's another one of those straw man divisions which does not really exi
Wrong again, Lance. You have overlooked the very reason the Scriptures have
been given to us. The Scriptures are profitable for reproof, for
correction, and for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be
perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. Of course, the
Scriptur
It always amazes me how these theologians talk about theology and science
and their references reflect nearly all theology.
David Miller.
- Original Message -
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 9:47 AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Fw:
FYI re:Who is Vic
Lance wrote:
> Correct me if I'm wrong in my 'understanding' of
> you, DM but, I believe that you've just answered
> with a resounding NO!
You may stand corrected. That is not how I answered.
David Miller.
- Original Message -
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, J
I do not agree. "Trinity" is as much a translation of the concept of "divine essence" as is "godhead" but for theological and contextual reasons. Call it philosophy if you will. The inclusion of "trinity" is a sound choice if it , in fact, arises from a point of truth. Equivalency is a wo
Lance wrote:
> Thanks for this, DM. Will you now offer up
> an 'inspired' understanding of WHO JESUS
> IS?
Jesus is Christ, the Anointed, the Son of the living God.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
--
"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know
how you
I assumed the quoted translation to be an interlinear and literal translation, in which case the reading is both typically difficult but supportive of Bill's comments.
Look at the quote and you will see the need for further 'translation."
Truly therefore, let know all the house of Yisra'el
Mums the word of the day from the Bishop !!
-- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Your memory fails you or, you lie. You've alleged many things concerning myself, Gary, John and, Bill. I ask those named to say so if they believe that I've spoke
I will entertain the possiblility that you are correct.
jd
-- Original message -- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Yes, John, very well stated. Sin can and does exist apart from the Law. > And you are also right that Jonah was not calling them to live their
I respectfully disagree.
jd
-- Original message -- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > FWIW, from my perspective, Judy believes none of these things. In fact, she > seems to believe that unregenerated man can choose to believe in Jesus > Christ. I have a differen
David, you need to include the entire post to which you refer. The first quote is not something that I said as a point of fact, because, of course, I believe that repentance is something other than confession and netiehr plays a role in continuing our salvation. In other words, I do not confe
As to your last question -- you know that I do not believe that one must be right right to be saved. I fear that the answer to your question is what you believe.
The gospel you express on this site is the produce of a very different paradigm than mine. Not that I am right - but simply
You often have trouble quoting our very words in a given post - and you expect us to believe that you can speak for the likes of Judy Taylor?
When we have our trist over the Gentiles in Romans 2, you and she both insist that these Gentiles must be regenerated (saved - born again) because a
if our lives have not changed and we continue to commit sins DM
I believe that you, David, think the two concepts cannot be separated. that change is witnessed, in part, by the end of personal sin. Where that may be true, it conversely may not be true !! When we insist on such an evid
Because when we read you, we see a constant effort to misrepresent us and> try to catch us in our words just as the scholars and Pharisees did to> Jesus. On the other hand, the feedback you give us from how we represent you tells us that we are reading and understanding you just fine.>> David Mi
Because He sent His Son to accomplish this purpose (John 3:16) Becasue He changed the administration of His will for this purpose. Because He ended the rule of Law and reinsituted the Force of Grace and the Spirit for this purpose.
Because the revealed mystery of the gospel ( acceptance of
Dean, are you saying that Christ means to include "law" in that which is "believed?"
If so, what is the practical advantage to 'unmerited grace" and the continuing fact of forgiveness in the sacrificial death of Christ?
jd
-- Original message -- From: "Dean Moor
"..God, by his providence, curbs the perverseness of nature,
preventing it from breaking forth into action, yet without rendering it inwardly
pure"
--J. Calvin,
c.1531
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:43:02 -0700
Dean's a Momma's
boy--eh?
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:46:18 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
No arguments with that, Judy. Now let's see what
Dean thinks about his thoughts.
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.inng
No arguments with that, Judy. Now let's see what
Dean thinks about his thoughts.
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 3:24
PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTa
My mother always said "To err is human, to forgive
divine" so I am sure Dean has divine thoughts
I've seen his public forgiveness right on
TT
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:13:41 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
So that I know for sure what you mean to convey,
let me ask you: do you
Yeah, I have heard that before. And I could
have knit-picked his list of propositions, but didn't think it necessary,
considering the fact that I do not believe we will ever be
God.
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
Dean
Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent:
So that I know for sure what you mean to convey,
let me ask you: do you as a human have "divine thoughts"?
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
Dean
Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 1:40
PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and
cd: Bill one of the Mormons prophets Alfonso Snow wrote: As God was so are we as God is we will be. I think this is close on name and quote if not forgive my mistake-Mormons consider themselves god's in the embryonic stage and that Jesus is the God of this world-as they will grow and be gods o
cd: Yes we agree if you view the Human part to also have divine thoughts.
- Original Message -
From: Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/15/2006 1:53:48 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE
If I understand you correctl
- Original Message -
From: Lance Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/15/2006 1:05:35 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: OK, done working for now
Going to the Bible will NOT bring the issue to resolution, Dean. Judy, DM, Gary, Bill, John, even I, though only on the rares
Such an appraoch makes God and His ability to accomplish the impossible in our lives all the more apparent. It gives credit to God and puts the preacher, teacher, evangelist, pastor, theologican in thier place !!
Amen to the conclusion of this thread.
jd
-- Original messag
DH > So.what do you perceive
to be the limitations that prevent us from becoming like
God?
He is God and we are not.
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
Dave Hansen
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 1:11
PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [
-- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Gary what is your problem? I am not saying anything scripture does not say first ... see Hebrews
13:7 Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God:
whose faith f
These words Morality maintains that little "s" sins plural is the human predicament. The Gospel maintains that capital "S" Sin singular unbelief is the predicament. (DS) give me verbage I have actually been [unknowingly] looking for. When we ask for a defintion of
DAVEH As you know, the LDS believe that mortals can become like God.
I assume you agree with the following.
We can become perfect (in a complete sense) like God.
We can know the difference between good and evil.
We can become one with him, as he (Jesus) is one with his Fath
If I understand you correctly, Dean, you believe
that Christ while walking this earth was fully God. I DO TOO. And if I
understand you correctly, you also believe that Christ while on this earth was
fully human. I DO TOO.
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
Dean
Moore
To:
How ironic that his mentor Bill would write
something like this. I think Lance just repeated it to qualify
something.
Lance has been a far greater mentor to me than I to him; I
assure you.
There is no irony in my statement. I have
consistently stated that I believe that the person of C
- Original Message -
From:
Dave Hansen
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:30
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] love and
trinity
I am included in that circle
of love in the way that Christ's humanity is included in that
Couldn't have said it better myself! In fact, what upsets me
is that I couldn't have even said it }:<(
Oh well, that's not going to stop me from agreeing with it
:>)
Well said, Debbie.
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
Lance
Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
(elsewhere, not Heb
13, M'am--your doctrinal demand collides with the text producing)
myth
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 04:27:35 -0500 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jesus - the Word of
God
Going to the Bible will NOT bring the issue to
resolution, Dean. Judy, DM, Gary, Bill, John, even I, though only on the
rarest of occasions, can muster adequate Scriptural support for a 'view'.
Sometimes that 'view' is God's. Sometimes that 'view' is one's own.
Original Message -
AMEN Dean!!
- Original Message -
From:
Dean
Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 15, 2006 12:38
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Differences
- Original Message -
From:
Lance
Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.inn
- Original Message -
From: Lance Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/15/2006 12:31:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: OK, done working for now
EVERY VIEW IS SUPPORTABLE, DEAN!! The better 'taught' one is, the more comprehensive that person's presentation is. This app
- Original Message -
From: Dave Hansen
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/15/2006 12:27:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Differences
DAVEH: Are you reading tea leafs, Dean? :-D
cd: No, I am reading the space between the tea leafs.They tell more than the leafs do:
Jesus - the Word of God is what they spoke and He is the same yesterday, today, and for ever.
O.K. I wish I had gotten to this post earlier. Is this "Word of God" at the sametime Jesus in the Flesh.
So you will not accuse me of setting you up, let me give you my concern on where I thin
- Original Message -
From: Lance Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/15/2006 9:36:08 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Differences
I'm having a little difficulty 'interpreting' you on this, Dean. Let's, rather than drag on what I believe to be a 'go nowhere' conversation,
EVERY VIEW IS SUPPORTABLE, DEAN!! The better
'taught' one is, the more comprehensive that person's presentation is. This
applies equally to right as well as wrong views. IMO, your view is a wrong view
on this matter..
- Original Message -
From:
Dean
Moore
To: TruthTalk@
Your explanation -- as it stands apart from further discussion -- changes the impact of the Hebrews text. Jesus is without change is the impact of the Hebrews statement, is it not? We would all agree that the incarnation represents a "change." But there must be a sense, a vital sense, in w
cd; Well said Judy and usually the next attack form from the populace is Are you saying you have no sin-then what right do you have to us to stop sin hypocrite. To which my answer is no I have no sin upon me as I have repented for my past sins this is not to say I am perfect but is to say I have
DAVEH: Are you reading tea leafs, Dean? :-D
Dean Moore wrote:
DaveH knows the truth but fear prevents him from
dealing with that truth-the comfort zone has trapped him..
--
~~~
Dave Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.langlitz.com
~~~
If you wis
-- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:45:00 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
1. You believe that unregenerated man cannot do what is right. You have stated that many times in the past. I was just hoping that you go
cd: Lance you need to recognize that this view is made up of much study and that I can support it with scripture so it is not something just spoke off of the top of my head as you seem to suppose. If one is to evaluate the speaker then one must also consider the speakers past statements to deter
FYI re:Who is Victor?
- Original Message -
From: "Victor Shepherd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: January 07, 2006 20:35
Lance,
Here's the latest.
Victor
Theology and Science.doc
Description: MS-Word document
- Original Message -
From: Debbie Sawczak
To: 'Lance Muir'
Sent: January 15, 2006 09:23
Subject: RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?
Lance, I think David may be right about regularly posting
to TT the remarks I make to you about forwarded messages that I find
interesting. I'
I'm having a little difficulty 'interpreting' you
on this, Dean. Let's, rather than drag on what I believe to be a 'go nowhere'
conversation, bring this to a rapid conclusion. IMO, one can preach what you
believe eschatalogically, and, even if incorrect, women/men may be illumined as
to thei
Key:'I view'. Please take note as all conversations
are similary constructed JT and DM.
- Original Message -
From:
Dean
Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 15, 2006 09:06
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: OK, done
working for now
cd: I view t
So Lance have you now put on a new hat
As referee of sorts? All conversations similar to
what?
All sins may grow from a fertile ground of unbelief but
this is straining over gnats
because just a tiny little bit of leaven can spoil
the whole lump ...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:13:44 -0500 "Lanc
Dean:
I think we've hit the slippery slope here. Ppl
always want to wrangle about hell, sin, and sins and use great
lofty words of man's wisdom to talk their way out of it
all. However, just one sin can damn the soul because
sin is active and always bearing it's own fruit (ie:
lust leads to
- Original Message -
From: Lance Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/15/2006 8:40:26 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Differences
Let's break the response down into two parts, Dean. Part #1:Are you aware that the majority of believing Bible scholars no longer support this
cd: I view the word "unbelief" to portray a larger image than what has been stated in this discussion. To have unbelief is not only to reject the person of Christ but to also reject his words which very clearly points one towards God's law and God's grace. So if John 3:18 is correct then one mus
It does. See David? No book this!!
- Original Message -
From:
Dean
Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 15, 2006 08:34
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and
trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE
- Original Me
Isn't it though? Maybe I just don't see myself for
who I really am? Duh!
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 15, 2006 08:31
Subject: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk]
Differences
It is an irony or ironies that Lance M
Correct me if I'm wrong in my 'understanding' of you, DM but, I believe that
you've just answered with a resounding NO! Who was it recently who described
me as 'blowing smoke'? I can't say that I blame you for being evasive on
this matter, David. (No, BTW, it'd not require a BOOK). Should you ac
Let's break the response down into two parts, Dean.
Part #1:Are you aware that the majority of believing Bible scholars no longer
support this 'teaching'? Are you also aware of the history of this teaching
throughout the last 2,000 years? Are you comfortable with fellow believers
coming to a
It is an irony or ironies that Lance Muir himself would
deign to write the following
about another person ..
"Should you wish to continue to pontificate from on
high then, we shall not hear matters of substance. We shall only hear you
judge us. (something you seem to do regularly)"
- Original Message -
From: Lance Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/15/2006 6:49:49 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE
Dean:I'd ask of you what I asked of DM, namely, outline your own position regarding 'who Jesus i
DM: You have an impressive mind which is reflected
in your ability to write and, to evaluate the writing of others. Good for you,
DM. NOW, as to that short message, pulling together the disparate
understandings, on Who Jesus Is...
Please,
Lance
Lance, you may not believe me, but I think Bill and I believe in the same
Jesus. I'm not sure what to talk about. What's the point? Write a thesis
about Jesus? That's a book, man. Where would I find the time to do that?
David Miller
- Original Message -
From: Lance Muir
To: TruthT
Because when we read you, we see a constant effort to misrepresent us and
try to catch us in our words just as the scholars and Pharisees did to
Jesus. On the other hand, the feedback you give us from how we represent
you tells us that we are reading and understanding you just fine.
David Mill
Perry said he would not be available this
weekend and he asked me to help with moderating the list. Therefore, I am
sending out a few comments regarding ad hominem statements that should be
reconsidered. Please do not reply to the list for any posts with **
Moderator Comment ** in the sub
If this Victor person is correct and "UNBELIEF" is the
predicament humanity is in then why was the Holy Spirit
sent to reprove the WORLD (note this is not just God's
covenant ppl) of SIN, righteousness, and
judgment?
(John 16:8) Why didn't God send Him as an
antidote to "unbelief" only if
- Original Message -
From: Lance Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/15/2006 6:46:56 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Differences
Any errors in the passage, Dean? No, I know of none. Any errors in the interpretation, Dean? YES!
Dean:IMO, JT & DM occupy a position wherein
We (DM & JT) read me just fine, says DM. I misread them, says DM. What, IMO,
is actually being said is that the two of you may warn, judge, malign and
critique from some mythical position you believe yourselves to occupy. I,
and according to the two of you, others as well, simply don't understan
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