Gary what is your problem? I am not saying
anythingscripture does not say first... see
Hebrews
13:7
Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken
unto you the word of God:
whose faith follow, considering the end of their
conversation.
13:8
Jesus Christ the same
Dean:I'd ask of you what I asked of DM, namely,
outline your own position regarding 'who Jesus is' rather than just picking
around the edges of other's comments concerning 'who Jesus is'. JUST WHICH JESUS
DO YOU SPEAK OF WHEN SPing?
--- Original Message -
From:
Dean
Moore
- Original Message -
From: Debbie Sawczak
To: 'Lance Muir'
Sent: January 14, 2006 17:02
Subject: OK, done working for now
paragraph inthis
lecture of Victor's:
I've often said, too, that the
hardest part of any service of worship for the minister is the children's story,
Any errors in the passage, Dean? No, I know of
none. Any errors in the interpretation, Dean? YES!
Dean:IMO, JT DM occupy a position wherein
they believe that their 'reading' of Scripture is 'inspired'. IMO, they believe
that God has promised such an 'inspired' reading to be available to all
It fascinates me that both yourself and DM believe
that readers/participants on TT do not 'know' you. You both have no hesitation
to say that you 'know' us. Why is that, Judy (DM)?
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc:
Judy:THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM, JT, YOU DO BELIEVE THE
BIBLE!! DM ALSO BELIEVES THE BIBLE! Wherein there lies coincidence between that
which God Himself says and, that which you've (both) interpreted the Bible to
say then Praise God. Wherein that is not so then, it is at best harmles to the
This is a rather broad question, Lance. I'm not sure where to
begin. It sounds like you want me to write a book for you. Can you
narrow your question a little?
David Miller
- Original Message -
From:
Lance
Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Saturday,
I never said that we didn't agree. I'm just trying to help bring out partly
what you just did. That word equality is a loaded word and often
misappropriated. Your context and subject is important when you use the
word.
David Miller
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
No, John. Ask Bill. I'm sure he understood. Bill put Elohim as the
subject making Yeshua YHWH. This translation from the Hebrew and Aramaic
texts of the New Testament puts YHWH as the subject making Yeshua Elohim.
It calls into question the reliability of Bill's point about the triune
The word Trinity is not a translation, nor is it a transliteration. It is
a word of philosophers, a word constructed by theologians, and it is a
philosophically loaded word. The various words of the Greek language that
have been translated Godhead have at their root the word theos, and
You err Lance; what I mainly respond to is Garys and
your gross misrepresentation of what I write and
I think it safe to assume that the same applies to
DavidM since he appears to be a thorn in your side.
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 06:53:46 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It
John wrote:
If you sin and do not repent, for whatever
reason, will that single sin place you in hell.
Not true, John. I cannot believe that you would argue such a point.
John wrote:
You speak of rebuking and hell muhc more
ofter than I, of course.
That's because Jesus spoke of rebuking
Yes, John, very well stated. Sin can and does exist apart from the Law.
And you are also right that Jonah was not calling them to live their lives
as the Jews. So you see, there are many things upon which we agree. There
is nothing explicitly stated in this post with which I disagree.
Thanks at least for being true to who you are. How?
By answering a question with another question. Do you play poker, DM? You might
make a good card counter.(i.e.'Rain Man)
You approach things analytically David.Rather
than circumscribe your response, why not outline your position by
So you know better than the Bible - or you are out
beyond the Bible. Whichever it is Lance you apparently think
it gives you the ability and licence to critique
everything that comes along. I find it quite amazing that you
appear
tothink thatyou and you alone know the
difference between a
- Original Message -
From: Lance Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/14/2006 2:20:45 PM
Subject: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?
- Original Message -
From: Debbie Sawczak
To: 'Lance Muir'
Sent: January 14, 2006 14:18
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What is the
Your memory fails you or, you lie. You've alleged
many things concerning myself, Gary, John and, Bill. I ask those named to say so
if they believe that I've spoken an untruth concerning you in this
matter.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To:
FWIW, from my perspective, Judy believes none of these things. In fact, she
seems to believe that unregenerated man can choose to believe in Jesus
Christ. I have a different perspective that I would share with her if there
were not so many other posts flying that take my time to read. I
cd: Good that means you are listening.
- Original Message -
From: Dave Hansen
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/15/2006 1:25:05 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Differences
DAVEH: Don't have much to add to any of the discussions. BTWIt wasn't my computer this time, but
Not even 'once', JT? Yikes!! Shame on me. Here
goes: Some of your interpretations are Holy while some others are Profane! I'd
say the same things concerning DM. (I'm usings profane hear as 'not
sacred')
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To:
Lance wrote:
JT DM occupy a position wherein they
believe that their 'reading' of Scripture is
'inspired'.
Not quite right, Lance. I will speak for myself but I think Judy is in
agreement with me on this. I believe that the Scripture is inspired, and I
believe that Jesus as per the
Thanks for this, DM. Will you now offer up an 'inspired' understanding of
WHO JESUS IS? I regard you more highly than some of my 'shots' would
suggest. I should be honored to hear you on this.
please,
Lance
- Original Message -
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Lance, it is not helpful for you to post the comments of others in that we
cannot engage them in dialogue. Unfortunately, Debbie has been misreading
me on several posts. Because she is not here for me to provide
herfeedback, she unfortunately thinks there is a difference where there is
From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FWIW, from my perspective, Judy believes none of these things. In
fact, she seems to believe that unregenerated man can choose to believe in
Jesus Christ. I have a different perspective that I would share with
her if there were not so many other posts
Perry said he would not be available this
weekend and he asked me to help with moderating the list. Therefore, I am
sending out a few comments regarding ad hominem statements that should be
reconsidered. Please do not reply to the list for any posts with **
Moderator Comment ** in the
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sending out a few comments regarding ad hominem statements that should be
reconsidered. Please do not reply to the list for any posts with **
Moderator Comment ** in the
Perry said he would not be available this
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reconsidered. Please do not reply to the list for any posts with **
Moderator Comment ** in the
Perry said he would not be available this
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reconsidered. Please do not reply to the list for any posts with **
Moderator Comment ** in the
Perry said he would not be available this
weekend and he asked me to help with moderating the list. Therefore, I am
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reconsidered. Please do not reply to the list for any posts with **
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We (DM JT) read me just fine, says DM. I misread them, says DM. What, IMO,
is actually being said is that the two of you may warn, judge, malign and
critique from some mythical position you believe yourselves to occupy. I,
and according to the two of you, others as well, simply don't
- Original Message -
From: Lance Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/15/2006 6:46:56 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Differences
Any errors in the passage, Dean? No, I know of none. Any errors in the interpretation, Dean? YES!
Dean:IMO, JT DM occupy a position wherein
If this Victor person is correct and "UNBELIEF" is the
predicament humanity is in then why was the Holy Spirit
sent to reprove the WORLD (note this is not just God's
covenant ppl) ofSIN, righteousness, and
judgment?
(John 16:8) Why didn't God send Himas an
antidote to "unbelief" only if
Lance, you may not believe me, but I think Bill and I believe in the same
Jesus. I'm not sure what to talk about. What's the point? Write a thesis
about Jesus? That's a book, man. Where would I find the time to do that?
David Miller
- Original Message -
From: Lance Muir
To:
Because when we read you, we see a constant effort to misrepresent us and
try to catch us in our words just as the scholars and Pharisees did to
Jesus. On the other hand, the feedback you give us from how we represent
you tells us that we are reading and understanding you just fine.
David
Perry said he would not be available this
weekend and he asked me to help with moderating the list. Therefore, I am
sending out a few comments regarding ad hominem statements that should be
reconsidered. Please do not reply to the list for any posts with **
Moderator Comment ** in the
DM: You have an impressive mind which is reflected
in your ability to write and, to evaluate the writing of others. Good for you,
DM. NOW, as to that short message, pulling together the disparate
understandings, on Who Jesus Is...
Please,
Lance
- Original Message -
From: Lance Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/15/2006 6:49:49 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE
Dean:I'd ask of you what I asked of DM, namely, outline your own position regarding 'who Jesus is'
It is an irony or ironies that Lance Muir himself would
deign to write the following
about another person ..
"Should you wish to continue to pontificate from on
high then, we shall not hear matters of substance. We shall only hear you
judge us. (something you seem to do regularly)"
Let's break the response down into two parts, Dean.
Part #1:Are you aware that the majority of believing Bible scholars no longer
support this 'teaching'? Are you also aware of the history of this teaching
throughout the last 2,000 years? Are you comfortable with fellow believers
coming to
Correct me if I'm wrong in my 'understanding' of you, DM but, I believe that
you've just answered with a resounding NO! Who was it recently who described
me as 'blowing smoke'? I can't say that I blame you for being evasive on
this matter, David. (No, BTW, it'd not require a BOOK). Should you
Isn't it though? Maybe I just don't see myself for
who I really am? Duh!
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 15, 2006 08:31
Subject: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk]
Differences
It is an irony or ironies that Lance
It does. See David? No book this!!
- Original Message -
From:
Dean
Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 15, 2006 08:34
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and
trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE
- Original
Dean:
I think we've hit the slippery slope here. Ppl
always want to wrangle about hell, sin, and sins and use great
lofty words of man's wisdom to talk their way out of it
all. However, just one sin can damn the soul because
sin is active and always bearing it's own fruit (ie:
lust leads to
So Lance have you now put on a new hat
As referee of sorts? All conversations similar to
what?
All sins may grow from a fertile ground of unbelief but
this is straining over gnats
because just a tiny little bit ofleaven can spoil
the whole lump ...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:13:44 -0500 "Lance
Key:'I view'. Please take note as all conversations
are similary constructed JT and DM.
- Original Message -
From:
Dean
Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 15, 2006 09:06
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: OK, done
working for now
cd: I view
I'm having a little difficulty 'interpreting' you
on this, Dean. Let's, rather than drag on what I believe to be a 'go nowhere'
conversation, bring this to a rapid conclusion. IMO, one can preach what you
believe eschatalogically, and, even if incorrect, women/men may be illumined as
to
- Original Message -
From: Debbie Sawczak
To: 'Lance Muir'
Sent: January 15, 2006 09:23
Subject: RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?
Lance, I think David may be right about regularly posting
to TT the remarks I make to you about forwarded messages that I find
interesting.
FYI re:Who is Victor?
- Original Message -
From: Victor Shepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: January 07, 2006 20:35
Lance,
Here's the latest.
Victor
Theology and Science.doc
Description: MS-Word document
cd: Lance you need to recognize that this view is made up of much study and that I can support it with scripture so it is not something just spoke off of the top of my head as you seem to suppose. If one is to evaluate the speaker then one must also consider the speakers past statements to
-- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:45:00 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
1. You believe that unregenerated man cannot do what is right. You have stated that many times in the past. I was just hoping that you good
DAVEH: Are you reading tea leafs, Dean? :-D
Dean Moore wrote:
DaveH knows the truth butfear prevents himfrom
dealing with that truth-the comfort zone has trapped him..
--
~~~
Dave Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.langlitz.com
~~~
If you wish to
cd; Well said Judy and usually the next attack form from the populace is Are you saying you have no sin-then what right do you have to us to stop sin hypocrite. To which my answer is noI have no sin upon me asI have repented for my past sins this is not to say I am perfect but is to say I have
Your explanation --as it standsapart from furtherdiscussion --changes the impact of the Hebrews text. Jesus is without change is the impact of the Hebrews statement, is it not? We would all agree that the incarnation represents a "change." But there must be a sense, a vital sense, in which it
EVERY VIEW IS SUPPORTABLE, DEAN!! The better
'taught' one is, the more comprehensive that person's presentation is.This
applies equally to right as well as wrong views. IMO, your view is a wrong view
on this matter..
- Original Message -
From:
Dean
Moore
To:
- Original Message -
From: Lance Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/15/2006 9:36:08 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Differences
I'm having a little difficulty 'interpreting' you on this, Dean. Let's, rather than drag on what I believe to be a 'go nowhere' conversation,
Jesus - the Word of God is what they spoke and He is the same yesterday, today, and for ever.
O.K.I wish I had gotten to this post earlier. Is this "Word of God" at the sametime Jesus in the Flesh.
So you will not accuse me of setting you up, let me give you my concern on where I think
- Original Message -
From: Dave Hansen
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/15/2006 12:27:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Differences
DAVEH: Are you reading tea leafs, Dean? :-D
cd: No, I am reading the space between the tea leafs.Theytell more than the leafs do:-)Dean
- Original Message -
From: Lance Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/15/2006 12:31:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: OK, done working for now
EVERY VIEW IS SUPPORTABLE, DEAN!! The better 'taught' one is, the more comprehensive that person's presentation is.This
AMEN Dean!!
- Original Message -
From:
Dean
Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 15, 2006 12:38
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Differences
- Original Message -
From:
Lance
Muir
To:
Going to the Bible will NOT bring the issue to
resolution, Dean.Judy, DM, Gary, Bill, John, even I, though only on the
rarest of occasions, can muster adequate Scriptural support for a 'view'.
Sometimes that 'view' is God's. Sometimes that 'view' is one's own.
Original Message -
(elsewhere, not Heb
13, M'am--your doctrinal demand collides with the text producing)
myth
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 04:27:35 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jesus - the Word of
God
Couldn't have said it better myself! In fact, what upsets me
is that I couldn't have even said it }:(
Oh well, that's not going to stop me from agreeing with it
:)
Well said, Debbie.
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
Lance
Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Howironic that his mentor Bill would write
something like this. I think Lance just repeated it to qualify
something.
Lance has been a far greater mentor to me than I to him; I
assure you.
There is no irony in my statement. I have
consistently stated that I believe that the person of
If I understand you correctly, Dean, you believe
that Christ whilewalking thisearth was fully God. I DO TOO. And if I
understand you correctly, you also believe that Christ while on this earth was
fully human. I DO TOO.
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
Dean
Moore
To:
DAVEH As you know, the LDS believe that mortals can become like God.
I assume you agree with the following.
We can become perfect (in a complete sense) like God.
We can know the difference between good and evil.
We can become one with him, as he (Jesus) is one with his Father.
We
These words Morality maintains that little "s" sins plural is the human predicament. The Gospel maintains that capital "S" Sin singular unbelief is the predicament. (DS) give me verbage I have actually been [unknowingly] looking for. When we ask fora defintion of sin, we experience the
-- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gary what is your problem? I am not saying anythingscripture does not say first... see Hebrews
13:7 Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God:
whose faith follow,
DH So.what do you perceive
to be the limitations that prevent us from becoming like
God?
He is God and we are not.
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
Dave Hansen
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 1:11
PM
Subject: Re: Fw:
Such an appraoch makes God and His ability to accomplish the impossible in our lives all the more apparent. It gives credit to God and puts the preacher, teacher, evangelist, pastor, theologican in thier place !!
Amen to the conclusion of this thread.
jd
-- Original message
- Original Message -
From: Lance Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/15/2006 1:05:35 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: OK, done working for now
Going to the Bible will NOT bring the issue to resolution, Dean.Judy, DM, Gary, Bill, John, even I, though only on the rarest
cd: Yes we agree if you view the Human part to also have divine thoughts.
- Original Message -
From: Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/15/2006 1:53:48 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE
If I understand you
cd: Bill one of the Mormons prophets Alfonso Snow wrote: As God was so are we as God is we will be. I think this is close on name and quote if not forgive my mistake-Mormons consider themselves god's inthe embryonic stage and that Jesus is the God of this world-as they will grow and be gods of
So that I know for sure what you mean to convey,
let me ask you: do you as a human have "divine thoughts"?
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
Dean
Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 1:40
PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and
Yeah, I have heard that before. And I could
haveknit-picked his list of propositions, but didn't think it necessary,
considering the fact that I do not believewe will ever be
God.
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
Dean
Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent:
My mother always said "To err is human, to forgive
divine" so I am sure Dean has divine thoughts
I've seen his public forgiveness right on
TT
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:13:41 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So that I know for sure what you mean to convey,
let me ask you: do you as
No arguments with that, Judy. Now let's see what
Dean thinks about his thoughts.
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 3:24
PM
Subject: Re: Fw:
Dean's a Momma's
boy--eh?
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:46:18 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
No arguments with that, Judy. Now let's see what
Dean thinks about his thoughts.
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To:
"..God, by his providence, curbs the perverseness of nature,
preventing it from breaking forth into action, yet without rendering it inwardly
pure"
--J. Calvin,
c.1531
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:43:02 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dean's a Momma's
boy--eh?
On
Dean, are you saying that Christ means to include "law" in that which is "believed?"
If so, what is the practical advantage to 'unmerited grace" and the continuing fact of forgiveness in the sacrificial death of Christ?
jd
-- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore"
Because He sent His Son to accomplish this purpose (John 3:16) Becasue He changed the administration of His will for this purpose. Because He ended the rule of Law and reinsituted the Force of Grace and the Spirit for this purpose.
Because the revealed mystery of the gospel ( acceptance of
Because when we read you, we see a constant effort to misrepresent us and try to catch us in our words just as the scholars and Pharisees did to Jesus. On the other hand, the feedback you give us from how we represent you tells us that we are reading and understanding you just fine. David
if our lives have not changed and we continue to commit sins DM
I believe that you, David, think the two concepts cannot be separated. that change is witnessed, in part, by the end of personal sin. Where that may be true, it conversely may not be true !! When we insist on such an evidencefor
You often have trouble quoting our very words in a given post - and you expect us to believe that you can speak for the likes of Judy Taylor?
When we haveour trist over the Gentiles in Romans 2, you and she both insist that these Gentiles must be regenerated (saved - born again) because an
As to your last question -- you know that I do not believe that one must be right right to be saved. I fear that the answer to your question is what you believe.
The gospel you express on this site is the produce of a very different paradigm than mine. Not that I am right - but simply that we
David, you need to include the entire post to which you refer. The first quote is not something that I said as a point of fact, because, of course, I believe that repentance is something other than confession and netiehr plays a role in continuing our salvation. In other words, I do not confess
I respectfully disagree.
jd
-- Original message -- From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] FWIW, from my perspective, Judy believes none of these things. In fact, she seems to believe that unregenerated man can choose to believe in Jesus Christ. I have a different
I will entertain the possiblility that you are correct.
jd
-- Original message -- From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, John, very well stated. Sin can and does exist apart from the Law. And you are also right that Jonah was not calling them to live their lives
Mums the word of the day from the Bishop !!
-- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Your memory fails you or, you lie. You've alleged many things concerning myself, Gary, John and, Bill. I ask those named to say so if they believe that I've spoken
I assumed the quoted translation to be an interlinear and literal translation, in which case the reading is both typically difficult but supportive of Bill's comments.
Look at the quote and you will see the need for further 'translation."
Truly therefore, let know all the house of Yisra'el
Lance wrote:
Thanks for this, DM. Will you now offer up
an 'inspired' understanding of WHO JESUS
IS?
Jesus is Christ, the Anointed, the Son of the living God.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
--
Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know
how you
I do not agree. "Trinity" is as much a translation of the concept of "divine essence" as is "godhead" but for theological and contextual reasons. Call it philosophy if you will. The inclusion of "trinity" is a sound choice if it , in fact, arises from a point of truth. Equivalency is a word that
Lance wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong in my 'understanding' of
you, DM but, I believe that you've just answered
with a resounding NO!
You may stand corrected. That is not how I answered.
David Miller.
- Original Message -
From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
It always amazes me how these theologians talk about theology and science
and their references reflect nearly all theology.
David Miller.
- Original Message -
From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 9:47 AM
Subject: [TruthTalk]
The problem with Debbie's analysis is that this street preacher does not
herald a call from immoral living to moral living without Christ. Rather,
the call is to turn from immoral living to a relationship with Jesus Christ.
It's another one of those straw man divisions which does not really
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:47:47 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You often have trouble quoting our very words in a given post - and
you expect us to believe
that you can speak for the likes of Judy Taylor?
Why get all over him JD when you are doing the exact
same thing here and
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:08:41 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I respectfully disagree. jd
About what JD?
He is right on. I do believe that unregenerated men
can decide to stop doing
something they are told is wrong otherwise civil
government would be pointless
and we would
JD wrote:
... when we repeatedly say Once again you
have misrepresented our words, you become
even more convinced that you read us just
fine !!!???
You are the only one I remember saying that, and it is because you can't
tell the difference between when someone quotes you and when they
Why in the world do you put a "happy face" behind a statment that you do not intend to be funny or even tongue in cheek? You do it often and it is never funny.
jd
-- Original message -- From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrong again, Lance. You have overlooked the
JD wrote:
You often have trouble quoting our very words
in a given post - and you expect us to believe
that you can speak for the likes of Judy Taylor?
I have never misquoted you or anyone else. What you object to is my
pointing out aspects that escape your own understanding.
JD wrote:
I
JD wrote:
When we insist on such an evidence for the Indwelling,
artificial time limits are put into effect and we become
the administrator of continuing fellowship. .
So, is there something wrong with that? Paul wrote:
1 Corinthians 5:1-13
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