Re: [TruthTalk] BIBLEphobes attack Church Service with impunity

No I think they should let us also use amplified speaker trucks outside every ward meeting. Nice loud speakers, that can be heard inside during the service. What think ye?Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: Do you have a problem with those people publicly protesting, Kevin?Kevin Deegan

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

Thanks anyway DH I was not sure how you would see the issue. Now I know.Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: Oooops.Now I see that it was Kevin who posted the below questions to me. FTRI posted my reply assuming it was John's question.Kevin Deegan wrote: DH Do you believe that

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

Scripture includes more than just the Bible What does it include? Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: I realize that, Perry. But from my perspective, you are ignoring that Scripture includes more than just the Bible. To me, your comment...You could see it too if you had not been

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

And who was the founder of the Baptist church?Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, do you consider the Wikipedia to be a reliable source of truth? Who wrote the article? Who are these "Christian church historians". Why is the word "protestant" in quotes? This article has no credits

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: *What if I gave you a list of Successive heads of the Baptist church going all the way back to John the Baptist?* DAVEH: Can that be done? You and I both agree regarding the RCC claim. But, at least they lay some claim to a historical right to the priesthood a

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

Question DH, Was Constantine the originator of the T doctrine in your eyes? If not it was originated at this time correct? What was the date of the origination of the T doctrine? From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re:

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

Ashamed? Mormon Doctrine on Deity, pp. 42-43; B. H. Roberts. Some of the sectarian ministers are saying that we "Mormons" are ashamed of the doctrine announced by President Brigham Young to the effect that Adam will thus be God of this world. No, friends, it is not that we are ashamed of that

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

t church going all the way back to John the Baptist?DAVEH: Can that be done? You and I both agree regarding the RCC claim. But, at least they lay some claim to a historical right to the priesthood authority. Do you know of another religion that makes a similar claim?Kevin Deegan wrote: I don't accept

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

I do not trace my baptist roots back to Constantine, nor to the Protestants. I have provided quotes dated before the reformation (thus they are NOT Protestants) Those same quotes atribute the baptists back to almost the time of Christ. You see no problem with tracing LDS "roots" back to the

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Smithian' Glasses

What data do you have except that you were taught such? If Constantine was the originator of the T Doctrine, then it would not have existed before his time, say 325 AD, CORRECT? Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: Could the same thing be said about Protestants who view Christ's Gospel

Re: [TruthTalk] Restoration versus condemnation-David Miller

Again Young Woman's Journal was an OFFICIAL Church publication it was not printed in some cave! The organization "Young Ladies' Mutual Improvement Associations of Zion" wasOVERSEEN by church officials what is the problem with your documents? Just opinions that can't be trusted because they

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

The Trinity Doctrine existed long before Constantine 50 AD The Huleatt Manuscript 74 AD The Letter of Barnabas 80 AD Hermas 140 AD Aristides 150 AD Justin Martyr 150 AD Polycarp of Smyrna 160 AD Mathetes 170 AD Tatian the Syrian 177 AD Athenagoras 177 AD Melito of Sardis 180 AD Theophilus of

Re: [TruthTalk] Restoration versus condemnation-David Miller

You might find interesting how another Mormon saw this: LDS Respondent says: Patriarchal blessings concerning `moon-men'These statements meant basically everyone in the universe. See in the LDS Church we don't believe that God has limited his ability to create mankind on this puny little earth.

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

One substance? So you want to discuss "homoousios"? "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily" Col. 2:9 "I and the Father are one" John 10:30 "Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me" John 14:11 "God was in Christ reconciling the world unto Himself'' 2Cor.

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Smithian' Glasses

That does not fit nicely into LDS Theology.David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH wrote: Could the same thing be said about Protestants who view Christ's Gospel through the lenses of Constantine's Trinity Doctrine?You do realize, don't you, that the Trinity doctrine did not originate with

Re: [TruthTalk]

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Re: [TruthTalk] Campus Preaching-Kevin Deegan / David Miller?

Yes thanks. Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: May I assume you meanDM.!Kevin Deegan wrote: Great answers DH! I would just add: Also contact FIRE http://www.thefire.org/http://www.thefire.org/index.php/article/5063.html FIRE’s Guide to Free Speech on Campus (see all

Re: [TruthTalk] Campus Preaching-Kevin Deegan / David Miller?

What kind of fruit do these people bare?Does Christ flow from their mouths? - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/2/2005 9:12:33 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Campus Preaching-Kevin Deegan / David Miller? you're right--he's got awall full of diplomas On Wed, 2 N

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

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Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

Message- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 04:25:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know DH Do you believe that the RCC had the truth but lost it? Where they the one true church

Re: [TruthTalk] BIBLEphobes attack Church Service with impunity

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Re: [TruthTalk] Campus Preaching-Kevin Deegan / David Miller?

:-) - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/1/2005 8:14:50 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] IS THIS A GREAT COUNTRY, OR WHAT? This is a TRUE story! It is not an Urban legend. http://www.wtv-zone.com/Mary/THISWILLMAKEYOUPROUD.HTML Brian Chontosh http

Re: [TruthTalk] Campus Preaching-Kevin Deegan / David Miller?

Great answers DH! I would just add: Also contact FIRE http://www.thefire.org/http://www.thefire.org/index.php/article/5063.html FIRE’s Guide to Free Speech on Campus (see all the helpful guides at bottom of page) (215) 717-FIRE (3473) David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CD wrote: Do you guys

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

It was not a matter of a few "biased" people believing in the Trinity Thye following Standard Work shows the Trinity and that there is ONE God. (Nowhere in the BoM or anywhere else does it say "One in purpose" Mosiah 15:1,5 I would that ye should understand that God himself shall come down among

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

ks for the extensive demonstration of my point, Kevin. Looks to me like the mormons, at least according to the Bom, are Trinitarians. Or "were". When do you think the mormon apostasy occured and they began to deny the Trinity? I guess that makes mormons today apostate in their own religion

Re: [TruthTalk] IS THIS A GREAT COUNTRY, OR WHAT?

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Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

, Kevin?Kevin Deegan wrote: Would you say Baptists have a significant number?Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: Do any of them exist today in significant numbers?Kevin Deegan wrote: There are plenty of "groups" that pre date the protestantsand therefore can not by any definition be

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

the authority as given to Peter was then handed down to the popes through the centuries, and can presumably name them all. I assume you do not accept that lineage of authority though. I am curious why you would not accept it though?Kevin Deegan wrote: I am interested to see how DH's General Apostacy

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

k bro. ----- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 10/30/2005 11:38:19 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know In Greek Helios is the sun god. In German, this became hellen, from which came the word helder, meaning,

RE: [TruthTalk] [Fwd: Telegraph News Prince Charles to plead Islam's cause to Bush]

In the last few weeks Peace Protest in DC Outfest Philly Black Muslim Nation of Islam DC Ohio State Football Columbus Salt Lake City Mormon General Conference Local NYS Gas, hotel (beats sleeping in a car), airfare etc $300 -$500 gets expensive! But then again look at all the money we saved not

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

sthood authority. Do you know of another religion that makes a similar claim?Kevin Deegan wrote: I don't accept fairy tales. What ifI gave you a list of Succesive heads of the Baptist church going all the way back to John the Baptist? We would need to have a history of that Church to go alo

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

as Protestants? When did they first take on an identity?Kevin Deegan wrote: Of course they are not protestants they existed before the protestant movement.Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: I was under the impression that Baptists are Protestants. Here's a WIKI definitionhttp

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

I believe the Reformers tried to rely on the scripture alone as best they could. I can plainly see the T - doctrine in the scriptures so I have no problem with one even discovering it purely from a reading of the scriptures Alone! SOLA SCRIPTURA! NO Church authority or Pope or Tradition or

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

Thanks DM I hope this clarifies some things AFA the RCC,for DH David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CD wrote: ... didn't birth of the RCC have roots that trace back to Constantine I, The great in 306 ad-337ad as he fought under the Christian flag and Christianity became a national movement under

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

Do you have some particular group in mind? No particular group other than the RCC was trying to exterminate those that disagreed with RCC doctrine practice. Those being primarily the continuous line of True Believers down thru time. These were folks who could have just said OK whatever you say

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

Miller. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know Do you have some particular group in mind? No particular group other than

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

Thats it? Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, I am interested in what doctrines you believe the protestants retained from the RCCDAVEH: Trinity DoctrineKevin Deegan wrote: It could not be a "general" Apostacy that effected the "WHOLE" Church, when you blatantly ignore the true believers who were

Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller models engagement with TT's Mormons

We went all through this before, every jot tittle!. He is your IDOL,I don't want to offend you. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fine. Yet another question you can't answer. ditto on my post below. Jd-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

In any enterprise, it is a dangerous venture to ignore DATA or EVIDENCE. Almost guarantees the wrong conclusion.Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: What puzzle? My interest is the Protestant connection. To which non-Protestant group are you referring, Kevin?Kevin Deegan wrote: Maybe you leave

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

VEH: What puzzle? My interest is the Protestant connection. To which non-Protestant group are you referring, Kevin?Kevin Deegan wrote: Maybe you leave out a very important piece of the puzzle, when you leave the NON Protestant groups out of the equation. Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: Dang..

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

Yes the Jews had all those things A Godly Heritage The Oracles of God (scripture) The Temple A Chosen people BUT you forget, the LDS have joe's wordCharles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: Is that so much different than many of the Jews a couple thousand years ago failing to

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

DAVEH: And what do you think duped into following a false religion, Perry? Was it due to their inattention to Scripture? Ordo you think they failed to recognize true prophets, and listen to them? Some men do not WANT Truth Some men are evil Some of these just USE scripture to their advantage

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

DAVEH: Do you not find it interesting that some used the words of God's holy prophets to try to entrap our Lord? Iam not sure I follow you here. of course they used WORDS to entrap. What is interesting/shocking whatever about that? Has not this been the way of man since the garden? Did not Satan

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

DAVEH: And what do you think duped into following a false religion, Perry? Was it due to their inattention to Scripture? Ordo you think they failed to recognize true prophets, and listen to them? Are you saying that had they had a prophet, they would not have erred? Some WILL not believe even

Re: [TruthTalk] NIV

http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/rlister/bible/niv2.htm Is the NIV the Word of God? http://www.biblebelievers.com/NIVvs.KJVcomparison.html Comparing Spiritual With Unspiritual http://www.biblebelievers.com/New_Eye_Opener.html New Eye opener 200 changes examined

Re: [TruthTalk] Bible Perverts

"The language is harsh," Countryman conceded, "but Paul doesn't say explicitly that it is sinful. ... All we can say is that the case isn't very strong. For myself, I'm frankly unconvinced," he concluded. "Most important of all, the gospel doesn't enter into it." So according to Barth we should

RE: [TruthTalk] [Fwd: Telegraph News Prince Charles to plead Islam's cause to Bush]

That is against the law in the UKShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS I wish someone would greet the jolly Prince and his "wife" with someplaccards stating exactly what they are. iz -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christine MillerSent:

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

And there were always groups who resisted and defied the False teachings of the RCC. Else whowere the RCC murdering before the middle ages?Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 10/30/2005 8:24:28 AM Subject

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

The greatest ANTI is the Holy Bible! That is "as far as it is Translated" of course. : )Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cd: By the way I am not anti-Mormon- I am pro Bible. There is a difference.I have not singled out Mormons to attack-they just happen to get in the way of my offered

Re: [TruthTalk] [Fwd: Telegraph News Prince Charles to plead Islam's cause to Bush]

"Sin" is a wrong choice or a mistake, is it not? Is this a wrong choice or a MISTAKE? "sin is the TRANSGRESSION of the law" The Bible calls it TRANSGRESSION - men call it an OOPS! Men think, Surely God will wink at that mistake. Is this just a mistake or wrong choice? Jm 2 But if ye have respect

Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller models engagement with TT's Mormons

I agree all those quotes from BarF are nothing but Hot Air![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, and with the very same ending. STatements made with nothing but air to back them up. jD-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 30 Oct 2005

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

WOW All these years and you finally posted one I agree with. I am going to get the smelling salts! Be right back..[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is interesting to me, concerning the Jews of the first century, is this: they were being asked(in a sense) to move from onetrue religious

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

Would you say Baptists have a significant number?Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: Do any of them exist today in significant numbers?Kevin Deegan wrote: There are plenty of "groups" that pre date the protestantsand therefore can not by any definition be considered "protesta

Re: [TruthTalk] [Fwd: Telegraph News Prince Charles to plead Islam's cause to Bush]

Coming soon to a town near you.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cd: Hello little sister-We were in England a couple of years ago streetpreaching and the Islamic people ruled the streets there. They used bannersto promote their religion and when we tried to use them the police orderedus to

Re: [TruthTalk] [Fwd: Telegraph News Prince Charles to plead Islam's cause to Bush]

what is next SHARIA Law? swear on a Koran?Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like Prince Charles has already pled Islam'scase in Australia:Police are told: "In incidents such as domesticviolence, police need to have an understanding of thetraditions, ways of life and habits of

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

It is an important detail you bring up here DM. It will be interesting then to see if some other group would be the True church and did they practice LDS doctrine DH? Could it be AnaBaptist? Waldensians? RCC have been eliminated from consideration since they did not exist till many generations

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

I am interested to see how DH's General Apostacy theory holds water after seeing these facts. Where was the break in authority DH? Who was the last group to Hold it? David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin wrote: Besides there was NO Catholic Church in 30AD. The RCC came along generations

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

ancient Greek the word was "Day Star" LDS god lives near Kolob JW god lives on Alcyone Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that the FATHER of both (Jehovahs Witness Mormon ) Religions ( and all others ) had something to do with a star. 2 Corinthians 11:14 "And no marvel; for Satan

RE: [TruthTalk] [Fwd: Telegraph News Prince Charles to plead Islam's cause to Bush]

You mean he does not ride the Trolley?ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess Charlie has nothing to fear living in his ivory towers. I wonderwhat his tune would be if terrorists started blowing themselves up in theroyal compounds. izzy -Original Message-From: [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

of the dawn! v.22 "I will rise up against them," declares the Lord of host, and will cut off from Babylon name and survivors (NASV) - Original Message ----- From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 10/30/2005 7:14:57 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

e: cd: Good material Kevin-Isaiah 14:4 that you will take up this taunt against the king of Babylon, and say...v12 How have you fallen from heaven O star of the morning, son of the dawn! v.22 "I will rise up against them," declares the Lord of host, and will cut off from Babylon name and s

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

PROTECTED] wrote: cd: Isn't Venus also called the morning star? And didn't The Babylon Prince Belshazzar (I think that was his name)fall who was named after the star? Thanks bro. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 10/30/2005 9:08:06 PM Subj

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

Why do you draw a line between Protestants and LDS? Are Protestants, Christians?Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is at the root of the disagreement between a knowledgeable Mormon and thetraditional Christian thinker? What say ye, DH. DAVEH: There are quite a few sticking points with me, John.

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

Have you ever considered once a preacher always a preacher? Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: Kevin.Have you ever considered that you may be able to learn more by listening, than preaching?Kevin Deegan wrote: Has anyone noticed that there are Several Doctrines that once they are under

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

Like I have said before, in order to not be passed PHONY cash, I do not look for what characteristics the phony shares with the authentic. Ifocus on the differences that identify it as a PHONY. Once identified what use do I have for the Counterfiet bill?Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: Not so

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

That deserves a BIG : )Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: Dean...You should be thanking me for having prevented Jeff from converting DavidM to Mormonism! :-) Dean Moore wrote: cd: DaveH this is the event I was referring to in our earlier conversation-Jeff had a chance for life and you made

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

Besides would it make sense for anyone passing a Phony to first identify it as such?Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like I have said before, in order to not be passed PHONY cash, I do not look for what characteristics the phony shares with the authentic. Ifocus on the differences

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

, and to throw down, to build, and to plant. Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cd: Why is it everybody wants us to stop preaching- Kevin? What are we not doing :-) - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 10/29/2005 9:13:02 AM Subject: Re

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

Perhaps if we are observant we can get a glimpse into the thinking of DH. Might he be the one who holds tenaciously to ALL (inspite of Logic, Truth, and common decency)realizing the weak foundation that joe is and for fear that loss of one item might bring his whole house down?Dean Moore [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

And, out of the curiosity, why am I not considered "anti-Mormorn? Shouldn't JD at least get Honorary Member status? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Theologically though, the failure to recognize the primary apostasy and subsequent belief in the inherent authority of the believer to be the most primary

Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller models engagement with TT's Mormons

IT IS A little FUZZYLance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, what of the focus of my post? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: October 29, 2005 11:57 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] David Miller models engagement with TT's Mormons -

Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller models engagement with TT's Mormons

Perhaps the three who do little more than hurl invectives LOL this from Mr label em Funnymentalist himself. Hilarious! Are you and "ANTI" Name caller? IS THIS BETTER? Spoken with a BIG SMILE: Smart Dogs! Beautiful Whited sepulchres! Somewhat Blind guides! One big happy family of Vipers! Was

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

Way too many! One would qualify.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 10/29/2005 12:09:44 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know And, out of the curiosity, why am I

Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller models engagement with TT's Mormons

curiosous; specifically whe is he off base ? JD-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 09:44:10 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller models engagement with TT's Mormons Perhaps the three who do little more than

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

Just an addendum that I wanted to post but I already hit that Wicked --| Enter keyDave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: You must be getting pretty bored with street preaching, Kevin.Now you are even responding to your own posts! :-D Kevin Deegan wrote: Besides would it make sense for anyone

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

So you see a limited Apostacy as it was only the RCC not the Protestants who ERRED? And what of those that continued as neither part of the RCC nor were they "protestants" since they existed before the protestants and contemporaneous to the RCC?They were the recipients of the terror of the RCC

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

As I remember it: A few months ago Lance made an attempt, you did not respond.Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: Bill bailed out on me. AndI don't recall Lance engaging meor, at least I don't recall him following up on my replies to his questions. David Miller wrote: DAVEH: Not so long

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

Blind follow the Blind BOTH Fall into the ditch!Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These differences boil down to their acceptance of "additional revelation" from their prophet that assigns characteristics to the mormon jesus that are not characteristic of the biblical Jesus. DAVEH: Is that so much

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

.there is no way I can answer it all, so I tend to choose and pick.)Kevin Deegan wrote: As I remember it: A few months ago Lance made an attempt, you did not respond.Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: Bill bailed out on me. AndI don't recall Lance engaging meor, at least I don't recall him

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

Many religious organizations work on censorship. They try and tell people what is true and what is false. They limit the information available. CMON who would do such a thing? Apostle Boyd K. Packer: “There is a temptation for the writer or the teacher of Church history to want to tell

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

Maybe you leave out a very important piece of the puzzle, when you leave the NON Protestant groups out of the equation. Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: Dang...you are sucking me in again, Kevin! I don't see it as a limited apostasy, but rather a general apostasy that affected the entire

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

It could not be a "general" Apostacy that effected the "WHOLE" Church, when you blatantly ignore the true believers who were being martyred by the false RCC. Also, I am interested in what doctrines you believe the protestants retained from the RCCDave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH:

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Smithian' Glasses

And some WEAR Barth Glasses!Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Each Mormon who sees Christ's Gospel through the the lenses of these glasses (Joseph Smith's)will always come to the same conclusions as those of their 'prophet'. Were there Jehovah's Witnesses on here then, their lenses would be

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

IF , and that is a pretty BIG IF, that would put him on the same plane as you. DOing Nothing And Yes Perry the answer is he WILL Do Nothing. No WILL, maybe some Barth would help.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given the pedantic redundancy of your intermittent commentary Perry, IFO view it

RE: [TruthTalk] 'Smithian' Glasses

Many are leaving the cult. As shown in previous posts about the ZERO effective growth. And yes some do get saved. We could notcalculatethe amount of one souls worth!Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent:

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

There are some posibilities which include: He is ashamed of LDS doctrine He is hiding LDS doctrine (You are Gentiles and NOT WORTHY of some LDS "Truth")LDS doctrine is hard to defend, it takes a twist of logic and there are only a few stock answers. There are very few resourses or defenders of

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

: ) LOL Intrepertation-Not only will I do nothing but it is your fault that I do nothing.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Original Message] From: Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Date: 10/28/2005 6:30:59 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

When at least are you going to becomeCONSISTENT? : )Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: I find it interesting that at times TTers accuse me of ignoring what JS said, and at other times I am accused of believing what JS said. As I see it, no matter what I say or believe.there are going

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

Did I miss your answers? This is of a truth a blackhole in reality!Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: I'm less embarrassed to answer questions than you may think, Izzy. (Witness the God/Mary sex accusations.) ButI am embarrassed for some of those TTers who would ask some of the

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

See here is an example of: You are a Gentile You are not Worthy to recieve the LDS Truth Time to hide it Is it hard to see that SOME LDS might take it to the point of LYING? Who is the Elder talking about? Elder Dallin H. Oaks "Some have suggested that it is morally permissible to lie to

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

If LDS had something great to talk about, they would not clam up. if LDS have truth why not share it with everyone? They share with people who act like sheeple. (thosethat are EASY MARKS becausethey have no knowledge of scripture.) Once they find out you have some knowledge of the scriptures they

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

Has anyone noticed that there are Several Doctrines that once they are under discussion apparently mkae DH very quiet?Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dean, I understand you entirely. I never expected Dave to answer...but in that silence several points about this secret cult can be

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Smithian' Glasses

You may not know where you are going, butI for one know thatI will never face the SECOND DEATH! Born ONCE DIE TWICE! Born TWICE DIE ONCE!Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course this is so, Perry. So would you, Kevin, David, Iz, et al. Nothing surprising here.- Original Message -

Re: [TruthTalk] Restoration versus condemnation-David Miller

What does it matter if it is doctrine or not. Of course it is not. The problem is not only joe but also brigham and others said such Ludicrous things. Some were said in sermons which brigham said were "scripture" In sermon he said there are inhabitants on the Sun How about the Standard Works

Re: [TruthTalk] Restoration versus condemnation-David Miller

Dean don't you know you must be PERFECT in ALL of your statements. If you make a mistake it gives LDS folks a excuse to negate ALL you ever say. Too bad they do not apply that same STANDARD to any LDS statements. DH relax it was only Deans "PERSONAL OPINION"Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [TruthTalk] Restoration versus Condemnation-David Miller

Now that man has walked on the Moon, there can be no doubt that there aren't any 6 foot tall Quakers roaming its surface. Maybe they were missed because they were on the dark side Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More delusional statements made by Mormon leadership (see fact #17) FACT

Re: [TruthTalk] Restoration versus Condemnation-David Miller

s no end to love;There is no end to being; There is no death above.There is no end to glory; There is no end to love;There is no end to being; There is no death above. Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that man has walked on the Moon, there can be no doubt that there aren't any 6 foot tall

Re: [TruthTalk] Restoration versus condemnation-David Miller

Stop making lite of the substantial difference between mormonism and true Christianity with your JIVE TALKIN --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2 - 15--- substance v personal jive __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites

Re: [TruthTalk] Restoration versus condemnation-David Miller

JD does not think your post of any substance and thus not worthy of his perusal --- Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, can you provide a little more context for the statement below? Perhaps I have not been following very closed the thread to which this is relevant.

Re: [TruthTalk] CANCELLED Homo Debauch FEST!

If a city is considering one of these vile festivals, they might want to reconsider in light of current events. TWO biggest Homo fests cancelled on account of rain? Just a co-inky dink! I thought it was kind of weird that Wilma went s slow and just hung around then finally turned and sped up

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