Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-17 Thread Lance Muir
Say it to me one more time, David, please. I, David Miller a. do not practice sin (have no besetting sin(s) b. have days, weeks, months wherein I do not sin in thought, word or deed whatsoever. Does the foregoing reflect the reality of your life? thanks, Lance - Original Message - Fro

Re: [TruthTalk] The use of Scripture to convince the gainsayers

2006-02-16 Thread Lance Muir
e trusted on anything. David Miller - Original Message - From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The use of Scripture to convince the gainsayers B A L A N C E - Emphasis on which s y l l A b l e? Plea

Re: [TruthTalk] The use of Scripture to convince the gainsayers

2006-02-16 Thread Lance Muir
ance told me this..." and "Lance told me that...," and you never said any such thing to them. You would think the person was mentally ill. You would not trust such a person, even if you think the person sincerely thinks you spoke to them. David Miller. - Original Mes

Re: [TruthTalk] The use of Scripture to convince the gainsayers

2006-02-16 Thread Lance Muir
es not mean that anything he says is false. It only means that such a person cannot be trusted on anything. David Miller - Original Message - From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The use of Sc

Re: [TruthTalk] The use of Scripture to convince the gainsayers

2006-02-16 Thread Lance Muir
B A L A N C E - Emphasis on which s y l l A b l e? Please understand these passages exactly as I do. Thereafter we'll be "harmonious' (Om mani padme hum) Q:Does God have more than one (1) understanding of anything? Q:IFF one's 'illumined/inspired/revealed' understanding of WHO JESUS IS is wr

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-16 Thread Lance Muir
IFO am 'dazzled'. Anyone else 'dazzled'? - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 15, 2006 15:16 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding John wrote: ... I speak as one who is leadership. David wrote: What is your leadership pos

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-16 Thread Lance Muir
ybody else is of much more serious concern than those whose Christology seems defective. David Mil ler. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Anyone here watch

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-16 Thread Lance Muir
Paranoid? Probably. Without good reason? I think not. jd -- Original message ------ From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Am I the only one to have noticed this, John? - Original Message - From: "David Miller" To: Sent: February 1

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-16 Thread Lance Muir
- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 15, 2006 14:39 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Do you have it posted on a website somewhere? How can we hear it? David Miller. - Original Message - From: "Lance Muir" <[

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>         - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTa

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
tters that require my attention around here. David Miller. - Original Message - From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding David: I'm having some diffulty 'catching

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
The door to understanding [Original Message] From: Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Date: 2/15/2006 8:55:21 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Addendum: I'd meant to ask for you to distinguish between prophet & prophetically gifted. We (our store) is vis

Re: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
ruary 15, 2006 09:11 Subject: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.   No, "anyone" is not included - only those who come with the right heart attitude. God hides things from the "wise and prudent" and reveals them to babes.  judyt From: "L

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
ding       - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 8:06:30 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Dean:Why don't you tell me (us) exactly what Rev 3:1-6 DOES MEA

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
d- Dave H. get bathing suit.       - Original Message ----- From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 7:20:36 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. He (Gary), Dean, is NOT being beligerent! He

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
get bathing suit. [Original Message] From: Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Date: 2/15/2006 7:22:34 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. Does 'your church' teach them right Dean/David? What, pray tell, is present within your discipling that one

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
veral persons in it. - Original Message - From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 15, 2006 08:49 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding David: I'm having some diffulty 'catching your drift' (meaning) in paragraphy two. Kindly say the sa

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
estify that they are addicted to sin and so is everybody else is of much more serious concern than those whose Christology seems defective. David Miller. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [Trut

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
There have been an = number of such issued by you to the 'soon-to-be cult' (via Dean), Judy. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 15, 2006 08:31 Subject: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Lance obviously

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
ginal Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 6:24:07 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding I believe that cd & DM may be confusing intimidation with authority. I see this more from DM with t

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
Talk] The door to understanding I have never attended BSF and did not even know what it was until Judy and John talked about it. I don't even know if it exists around here in my community. David Miller. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent:

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
- Original Message ----- From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:23 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding I believe that cd & DM may be confusing intimidation with authority. I see this more from DM with those less

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
The following is not a compliment, nor is it necessarily a criticism: As to "how can one argue with your type of reasoning.(fill in the blank)? DM, in responding to a series of questions I put to him, so framed his answers as to sever the possiblilty of ongoing conversation.

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
uot;My goodness, just look at TT!" Do you miss his point? Your agenda has done nothing in a positive way for this forum. Nothing. jd -- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Original Message - From: La

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
He (Gary), Dean, is NOT being beligerent! He is disagreeing with your meaning. These are not the same thing. DM & you seem not to get this. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 15, 2006 07:08 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
Anyone here watch hockey? Legitmate body checks are permissible. TT's a little like hockey. The serious issue at hand re: 'delusion' is not necessarily rooted in wrong doctrine, IMO. However, few would disagree that misrepresenting 'who Jesus is' (Christology) matters. Pomposity when speakin

[TruthTalk] Semanticizing - implementation oriented semantics

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
I've sort of played with the above so as to suggest that the majority of TT's 'differences' fall within the realm of semantics. IMO, this is what Jesus was 'on about'  when engaging the religious leaders of His day. IMO, real communication necessitates a 'meaning' overlap. The larger the 'ov

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
I believe that cd & DM may be confusing intimidation with authority. I see this more from DM with those less than veiled threats & warnings directed at those who dare to disagree with him. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; Truth

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
ruary 14, 2006 18:00 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding       - Original Message ----- From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/14/2006 7:16:19 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to underst

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
Bible Study Fellowship. Judy attends. (I think David's family attends also.)  - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 14, 2006 17:53 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding cd: I am not sure where

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
erstanding       - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/14/2006 7:50:51 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding BSF/Groupthink? Hmm cd; Group thinking come from psychology.People are prone to g

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
It is more like that an individual decides against the 'group' thus generating a cult, Dean. This is what concerns me re:one who lays claim to 'special revelation' as the 'closer' in an argument. One such, at least, is a TT contributer. - Original Message - From: Dean Moor

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
s his point? Your agenda has done nothing in a positive way for this forum. Nothing. jd -- Original message ------ From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/14

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
        - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/14/2006 7:18:26 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bath

Re: [TruthTalk] ALL conversations beginning with any variation on 'GOD TOLD ME TO/THAT..'

2006-02-14 Thread Lance Muir
rgoes discussing such matters because he deems them ridiculous. I wouldn't have a problem with that if he was talking to an atheist who hated God and was reciting ridiculous things, but I do have a problem when it concerns a sister or brother in Christ who is sincere. David Miller - Or

Re: [TruthTalk] Sinful treatment, by believers, of Women, Slaves & First Nations Peoples ?

2006-02-14 Thread Lance Muir
David: Thanks so much for taking the time to answer each of these. It'll provide me with a foundation on which to go ahead with the discussion. Lance - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 14, 2006 12:00 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sinful treat

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-14 Thread Lance Muir
'Mousey'? Synonyms please. - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 14, 2006 11:03 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. If you are provoked by my questions about your posts, the responsibility is not in my methods as mu

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-14 Thread Lance Muir
'Last days'?? What do you mean, David? - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 14, 2006 11:14 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. JD wrote: It appears there are two judges -- The Judge and The Impostor. If judgmen

Re: [TruthTalk] ALL conversations beginning with any variation on 'GOD TOLD ME TO/THAT..'

2006-02-14 Thread Lance Muir
DM says 'personally I don't see tt as a game'. Y'all seem to enjoy playing 'gotcha' from time to time, David. The correction you posted yesterday (?) was an example. Your reference to invulnerability since age 8 was yet another. Some, David, of that which you do little short of outstanding. Som

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-14 Thread Lance Muir
BSF/Groupthink? Hmm - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 14, 2006 07:27 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding .Amen Dean, JD I figure you were thin

Re: [TruthTalk] Which God?

2006-02-14 Thread Lance Muir
eads to life is legalistic.  judyt   On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 07:01:32 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dean:As to the 'God/god' of the Bible:Why is it, Dean, David, Judy, Perry, that all 'believers' don't, while inhabited by the same H

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-14 Thread Lance Muir
It ain't up to you Dean, to 'allow' a fool to continue in her/his folly. My goodness, just look at TT! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 14, 2006 07:10 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing sui

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-14 Thread Lance Muir
Dean:   'birth of a cult'? 'group thinking-no standards to point out error'? 'see why your group don't like preaching such as David (Miller) does'?   These are rather serious accusations, Dean. These are certainly not borne out when reading the 'group' via TT.   I had a rather lengthy convers

Re: [TruthTalk] Which God?

2006-02-14 Thread Lance Muir
Dean:As to the 'God/god' of the Bible:Why is it, Dean, David, Judy, Perry, that all 'believers' don't, while inhabited by the same Holy Spirit, come to the same conclusions re:The 'God/god' of the Bible? through that selfsame Bible? Do some sin against that Spirit? IFF 'believers' then, how

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-14 Thread Lance Muir
How and, in what way is this 'sounding familiar'? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 14, 2006 06:43 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.       - Original Message

[TruthTalk] Sinful treatment, by believers, of Women, Slaves & First Nations Peoples ?

2006-02-14 Thread Lance Muir
To David Miller:   Shall we break this down into its component parts? Shall we make an attempt at brevity?   1.Please define 'believer' 2. Can a 'believer' sin over an extended period of time a. wilfully b. ignorantly?  3. Please outline the role of 'believing' women a. within the 'believing

Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller

2006-02-13 Thread Lance Muir
Someone else who notices! Thanks Blainerb!! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 13, 2006 14:07 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller In a message dated 2/13/2006 12:0

[TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller

2006-02-13 Thread Lance Muir
I've not forgotten you, David. IMO, you are both incorrect and immoveable on at least a portion of that which is under discussion. What I've got to determine is whether or not it is worth the 'ink' to engage further with you given what I've just said. I'm checking around with some who've rea

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread Lance Muir
  David Miller.   - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 5:13 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. And? - Original Message

Re: [TruthTalk] "The spirit of Anti-Christ"

2006-02-13 Thread Lance Muir
t and give them a false peace.  judyt.       On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 06:48:43 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: This has been/is being bandied about by David Miller et al. Perhaps it'd be helpful for those employing it to explain just what it is that they mean when employing it.   L  

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread Lance Muir
YES. Believers have certain fruit in their lives and it is not the kind you describe here.   From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>David:   Am I to assume that YOU would be incapable, excellent researcher that you are, of making a legitimate case FOR the maltreatment

[TruthTalk] ALL conversations beginning with any variation on 'GOD TOLD ME TO/THAT..'

2006-02-13 Thread Lance Muir
Does such shut down any conversation entailing disagreement?

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread Lance Muir
So then, Dean, are you beginning to adopt a style of writing/communicating that favors the oblique? Did you not recently rail against Benny Hinn? Assuming that he were doing so, is G not entitled to adopt a stance other than your's or DM's? (I then answer my own question) Of course he is AND

[TruthTalk] "The spirit of Anti-Christ"

2006-02-13 Thread Lance Muir
This has been/is being bandied about by David Miller et al. Perhaps it'd be helpful for those employing it to explain just what it is that they mean when employing it.   L

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread Lance Muir
n the way that you did. I think you do this out of ignorance, but the problem is that you are probably even ignorant of the fact that you do it in ignorance. That is the problem with delusion. You don't know that you are actually believing a lie. David Miller. - Original Message - F

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread Lance Muir
What, Judy, do you mean by 'consistently'? (Sorry Dean but I fear Judy's full meaning may not be covered by 'Webster' or...)   - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 13, 2006 04:56

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread Lance Muir
And? - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 12, 2006 15:02 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. LOL.  I found the link to it in YOUR post.  LOL.  I just wondered why you didn't share

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-12 Thread Lance Muir
[TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.       - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/12/2006 8:53:12 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. I'd be

[TruthTalk] Fw: Baxter Kruger in Adelaide

2006-02-12 Thread Lance Muir
  - Original Message - From: ron & gail To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: February 11, 2006 23:35 Subject: Baxter Kruger in Adelaide Dear All, Attached is a flyer for the event with Baxter Kruger on John's gospel. March 14 15 16th at Adelaide West Uniting Church.   Organisatio

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-12 Thread Lance Muir
. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. [Original Message] From: Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Date: 2/12/2006 8:22:01 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. IFO could read more than a little 'woman bashing' herein, David/Dean. I don't believe that eithe

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-12 Thread Lance Muir
ur illustration was excellent. Have you seen 'Amistad'?  - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 12, 2006 08:03 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.       - Orig

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-12 Thread Lance Muir
IFO could read more than a little 'woman bashing' herein, David/Dean. I don't believe that either of the two of you would as, IMO, you both adopt a more traditionalist understanding of the role of men/women..husbands/wives. - Original Message - From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-12 Thread Lance Muir
Ahh but there's never a linguist around when you need one. I reference actual, honest-to-goodness, real, live, living in the Spirit BELIEVERS/CHRISTIANS. Yes! They did. Yes! They do! Yes! One or more may be a TT participant. Can such do such? Unequivocally yes! Does this contradict 1 Jn alon

Re: [TruthTalk] Moderator

2006-02-12 Thread Lance Muir
, 10 Feb 2006 04:39:25 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: It is called a sense of humour DM. - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 08, 2006 15:09

Re: [TruthTalk]

2006-02-12 Thread Lance Muir
al density' and 'thick brained?' On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 04:13:17 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The expression was 'cranial density'. On occasion some things slip by DM as they do all of us for the same reason, Judy. - Original Message -

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-11 Thread Lance Muir
Dean: I'm unhappy with your choice of "Catholics & Protestants" to describe 'offenders'. I'd simply say "believers' throughout history, including now. There may indeed be 'offenders' on TT. L - Original Message - From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 10, 2006 18

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-11 Thread Lance Muir
Christine:   Your dad has exhibited excellent historical knowledge. May I suggest that you ask him to brief you on this matter?   L  - Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 10, 2006 23:33 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]

Fw: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-11 Thread Lance Muir
  - Original Message - From: Debbie Sawczak To: 'Lance Muir' Sent: February 11, 2006 08:51 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. Every woman should be filled with shame by the thought that she is a woman. ~ Clement of Alexandria, Second Century  

Fw: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-11 Thread Lance Muir
  - Original Message - From: Debbie Sawczak To: 'Lance Muir' Sent: February 11, 2006 08:44 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. I don't see the harm that stems from loving Jesus and seeking His will. If I can say, with a pure heart, that I

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-11 Thread Lance Muir
To Judith H Taylor: I ask yet again and, in other words this time: Is there any possibility whatsoever that those women/men who read Scripture/teach Scripture/live Scripture differently than you, along with many, many other believers, may have a 'Word from the Lord' on this matter that you n

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-11 Thread Lance Muir
I say again, Judy, that Scriptural data will support an understanding of the role of women/men in church/home/society other than that alluded to here. Are you aware of this? Would you worship where such a 'reading' of Scripture prevailed? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PRO

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-11 Thread Lance Muir
Jt opines:'God.puts women in leadership positions when.no man willing/available' 'I' (Judy) believe in male leadership' (home, church, business?)'   Would you, Judy, concur that the Biblical data have been employed in support of a position other than that held by you? Would you participate

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-11 Thread Lance Muir
Sent: February 08, 2006 11:49 Subject: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.       - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Re: [TruthTalk] God female?

2006-02-11 Thread Lance Muir
Dean:   Are you saying, 'God imprints the law (his) on the hearts of humankind everywhere through all time and, they have within them the human capacity to keep (obey)? However, even should this be so and, they keep the law while not ever knowing of Christ; thereby not believing through Him,

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-11 Thread Lance Muir
l settle for being like my dad and consider that a hearty step in the right direction. :-)Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry Christine but, this is just is just Christine 'McMiller' speaking (as in Edgar Bergen & Charlie McCarthy - for

[TruthTalk] Emailing: story4.htm

2006-02-10 Thread Lance Muir
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Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-10 Thread Lance Muir
Dean: Would you say the same thing in different words while demonstrating how what you've said relates to my critique of DM/CM? I've mentioned on numerous occasions the legacy of the church as to it's treatment of women over the centuries without any acknowledgement whatsoever. IMO the condu

Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)

2006-02-10 Thread Lance Muir
May the Lord have mercy upon you for saying 'may the Lord have mercy on you' re:John. - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 09, 2006 14:56 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd) I never called Bonhoeffer an atheist! What are you

Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)

2006-02-10 Thread Lance Muir
David Miller IS sinless. Well...it all depends upon that which you mean by... - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 09, 2006 14:38 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd) JD wrote: David, your comment below is but the first of se

Re: [TruthTalk] Moderator

2006-02-10 Thread Lance Muir
ce and DM an DH. DM -- is this the purpose of the Moderator - to micro-manage our discussion and decide when a particualr discussion needs to "move along?" jd - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/8/2006 6:31:04 AM Subject: [TruthTal

Re: [TruthTalk] God female?

2006-02-10 Thread Lance Muir
And you, David Miller, say what on this matter? - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 08, 2006 15:36 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God female? Dean rightly understood that your premise was that the Jewish CULTURE attributed masculinity to God.

Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)

2006-02-10 Thread Lance Muir
Is this comparable to your 'founding fathers' discussion? - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 08, 2006 15:32 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd) JD wrote: a dictionary writen by an atheist carries more weight than the exeget

Re: [TruthTalk] Moderator

2006-02-10 Thread Lance Muir
to micro-manage our discussion and decide when a particualr discussion needs to "move along?"    jd   - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/8/2006 6:31:04 A

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-10 Thread Lance Muir
Talk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)       - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/8/2006 10:56:08 AM Subject: Re

Re: [TruthTalk]

2006-02-10 Thread Lance Muir
t;thickbrained" On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 15:07:54 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I am, David. - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 09, 2006 14:58 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] > Before I sti

Re: [TruthTalk]

2006-02-09 Thread Lance Muir
I am, David. - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 09, 2006 14:58 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Before I stick my foot in my mouth, can you tell me if you are being sarcastic here? David Miller. - Original Message -----

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-08 Thread Lance Muir
uthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.       - Original Message ----- From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/8/2006 11:34:58 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd) Originality not being your stron

Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)

2006-02-08 Thread Lance Muir
Are you using 'Webster' again? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 08, 2006 11:39 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)       - Original Message - From: To: T

Re: [TruthTalk] God female?

2006-02-08 Thread Lance Muir
?       - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/8/2006 10:58:12 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God female? IMO Bill adequately addressed the issue under discussion. IMO you are revisiting the issue as if you'd not factor

Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)

2006-02-08 Thread Lance Muir
From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 08, 2006 11:14 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)       - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/8/2006 1

Re: [TruthTalk] God female?

2006-02-08 Thread Lance Muir
IMO Bill adequately addressed the issue under discussion. IMO you are revisiting the issue as if you'd not factored in the reading of Bill's post. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk Sent: February 08, 2006 10:42 Subject: [TruthTalk] God female?

Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)

2006-02-08 Thread Lance Muir
FWIW Bill, I'd suggest that we leave Dean, DM, JT and perhaps even DH, to Amen one another on this issue. You are correct that they are flirting with a position remarkably close to the Mormons. One can 'hear' the level of certitude being expressed.   - Original Message - From:

[TruthTalk] Is the list owner impervious to sanctions when baseless charges are levelled by him?

2006-02-08 Thread Lance Muir
As I see it DM owes DH a profound apology for his interminable dragging out of a most minor issue.THAT, David Miller, is the cranial denseness to which I made reference during our recent exchange. You are 'The very model of a modern major-general'. Gilbert & Sullivan were describing you prio

Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)

2006-02-07 Thread Lance Muir
r line of support that can continue on to more verses-then the other passages come into view with clarity-not taken out of context and stand alone without support.   - Original Message -

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)

2006-02-07 Thread Lance Muir
DM:Does a stance such as that being put forward by JT & CD ever embarrass you? Worse yet, do you concur with them? - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 07, 2006 12:23 Subject: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] Rightousness

Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)

2006-02-07 Thread Lance Muir
  - Original Message - From: Debbie Sawczak To: 'Lance Muir' Sent: February 07, 2006 12:19 Subject: RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd) "way out there someplace"--heavens to Betsy! I was about to say the same thing about Judy!   D From: Lance Muir [mai

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)

2006-02-07 Thread Lance Muir
Fw: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)       - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/7/2006 11:12:17 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd) Wow Dean! Shades of your 

Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)

2006-02-07 Thread Lance Muir
Patience Dean, patience. You're becoming just a little silly. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 07, 2006 09:59 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd) 1Jo 2:4 H

[TruthTalk] Fw: I am incredulous

2006-02-07 Thread Lance Muir
  - Original Message - From: Debbie Sawczak To: 'Lance Muir' Sent: February 07, 2006 10:20 Subject: I am incredulous This male God thing got me curious, so I went to the archives and looked at this morning's messages on the topic. I could not believe my eyes. The

[TruthTalk] Fw: So

2006-02-07 Thread Lance Muir
  - Original Message - From: Debbie Sawczak To: 'Lance Muir' Sent: February 07, 2006 10:27 Subject: So does God have a penis? After all, Adam did.   D   P.S. You can tell I am getting steamed! --No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Versio

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