heir questions from an Aristotelian framework
and not a purely "biblical" one.
Did I get to your question?
Bill
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Wm. Taylor wrote:
"But the
wisdom that comes from God is first of all pure, then peaceful, gentle,
and easy to please. This wisdom is always ready to help those who are
troubled and to do good for others. It is always fair and honest.
People who work for peace in a peaceful way
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Wm. Taylor wrote:
"But the wisdom that comes from God is first of all pure, then
peaceful, gentle, and
Wm. Taylor wrote:
Thank you, Terry,
I'm not trying to equate education
with wisdom. I am saying that ignorance is not a virtue,
==
Being ignorant in many areas, I can testify to the truth in your
comment.
Okay, Judy, I'll turn my other
cheek.
You say, "Why is it so difficult to believe that
God is able to create a holy child in the womb of Mary?"
I say, it is not difficult for me to believe
this. In fact, it is just what I do believe. What I don't accept is
adefinition of
Oops, I just sent an archived post. Sorry, you can
disregard it.
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Okay, Judy, I'll turn my
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But this is Aristotle!
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ok;but if not
Aristotle's,what are the philosophical premises of your theology? Do
you prefer Plato?
G ~ P
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no doubt about (e.g.)Plato's
continuing influence on culture/s,Bill; much different, however, then
that of the HS, whoseinfluence isperhaps *unknown* by
Did I get to your question?
Bill
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no doubt about (e.g.)Plato's
cont
Now, now, G. That's taking some
liberty.
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Bill, Apparently,your point
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Bill, Apparently,your point is
that 'many..Spirit-filled Christians' are stupid, butthe
smartChristiansare [highly] enraptured with 'personal
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I'm surprised you were offended by this. Do you have
jt: Who saw the Judas movie? I don't make a habit of watching religious mumbo jumbo through the eyes of secular media and wouldn't have gone to the Gibson movie but for the accolades by well knownChristian leaders in this country (and my daughter coming up with a ticket). This is what is so sad
I am sorry. I hear you.
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In a
message dated 3/12/2004 5:03:20 AM Pacific Standard Time
Perry wrote:
She commented that the theives were carrying
the crossbars of their crosses on their shoulders,
and she commented that she did not realized that they
carried theirs like that. I do not recall it saying
that in the accounts in the scripture. If I have
missed something let me
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Perry wrote:
She commented that the theives were carrying
the crossbars of their crosses on their shoulders,
and she commented that she did not realized that they
carried theirs like that. I do not recall it saying
that in the accounts in the scripture. If
In a message dated 3/11/2004 9:44:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm surprised you were offended by this. Do you have a Church of Christ
background?
Perry -- there are other Stonies on this list.
John
Perry wrote:
I must say that I am in the same camp as Kevin
with respect to not seeing Mel Gibson's movie.
My position is that it is not the Passion...
it is an RCC commentary about the Passion.
That's like arguing that Kevin's posts on TruthTalk are a Baptist
commentary about Jesus Christ
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Perry wrote:
I must say that I am in the same camp as Kevin
with respect to not seeing Mel Gibson's movie
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Perry wrote:
Kevin's posts may indeed be Baptist commentary, but
If the Baptists agree with scripture then, by all means,
lets read Kevin's commentary.
I
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Perry wrote:
I must say that I am in the same camp as Kevin
with respect to not seeing Mel Gibson's movie.
My position is that it is not "the Passion"...
it is an RCC commentary about "the Passion".
http://www.inter-islam.org/faith/dajjal.htm
But I will tell you something which no Prophet has told his people.Verily he (Dajjal) is one-eyed and Allah is not one-eyed.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0953327515/103-4075416-0637422?v=glance
For some reason god thought it
We are talking past each other, Judy. I think I
want to wait a while before going any farther with you.
Bill
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Before
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Let everyone see that you are
gentle and kind. The Lord is coming soon. Do not worry about anything, but pray
and ask God for everything you need, always giving thanks. And God's peace,
which is so great we cannot understand it, will keep your hearts
Judy, if you haven't already read my first message like this one, please read
this one instead. I have corrected some typos in this one. The content remains
intact.
jt: No
problem Mr. Bill but I hope you don't mind if I respond mainly to your newer
points for the sake of brevity.
Judy, If
Well, Judy, I am sorry you could not see you were
sinking. I threw you a rope, hoping to pull you ashore. What did you do? You
used it to hang yourself. The good news is, there is resurrection. I'm thankful
for the opportunity you have given me to help you, though. Maybe others will not
be
From: "Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, Judy, I am sorry you
could not see you were sinking. I threw you a
rope, hoping to pull you ashore. What did you do? You used it to hang yourself. The good news is, there is resurrection. I'm thankful for the opportunity you have given
me to help
Judy,
If you will bear with me through a short anecdote,
I will try to spin it into something that explains my fears regarding the
direction in which I see this discussion taking us.
After Augustine the Church went in a decidedly
different direction from where it had been headingprior to
Here is a good one bill
Titus 1 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers. For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: Whose mouths must be stopped,
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Here is a good one bill
Titus 1 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been
taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince
the gainsayers. , specially they of the
NCV is that one of those gender nuetral Feminized bibles?
God is gender biased, lets fix it. LOL
http://www.cbmw.org/resources/articles/genderneutral.php"Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let everyone see that you are gentle and kind. The Lord is coming soon. Do not worry about anything,
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NCV is that one of those gender nuetral Feminized bibles?
God is gender biased, lets fix it. LOL
http://www.cbmw.org/resources/articles
er the New King James Version.
Thanks for asking,
Bill
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NCV is that one of those gender nuetral Feminized bibles?
God is gen
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Are you Church of Christ?
That is who put out the NCV"Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Kevin, as to your question. I do not kno
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jt: Why do you approach me as an enemy just because I speakwhat I believe on this list Mr. Bill? Also why would you imply t
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Yeah Judy I want to put my two cents in.
What you need to do is loosen up. You are too rigid. You need to
not be so Caustic. How about a little meekness
way are these idle words?Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Careful Kevin. Someday we have to give account for every idle word.
Terry
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Good Morning Bill:
After posting Job 19:23-27 you follow with: Is there any question here that the Kinsmen Redeemer-God of Job is Jesus
Christ, come in the flesh? I don't think so. And how is it that Job will see God
after his death, yet still in his own flesh? Job
knew something about the
From: "Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Judy asks, "Is itpossible for you to show me
where you are at byscripture without feeling threatened?"
Bill responds, I will earnestly try to do this. On
March 3, Terry wrote me in reply to my post concerning the go'el aspect
of Christ's atoning work.
not read any reviews from the
reformed camp, though, and wonder how they view the movie.
Perry
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Let us say
From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Please hear me out before ousting me. Yeah Judy I want to put my two cents in. What you need to do is loosen up. You are too rigid. You need to notbe so Caustic.
How about a little meekness? T
Where is your love bro? Why are you so judgemental? If you knew me you
would know, I am a very sensitive guy. What got you so upset? Maybe I offended
one of those RELIGIOUS SPIRITS David Miller is always talking about.
BUT I will NOT Shut my mouth when I see evil. I will not go
I must say that I am in the same camp as Kevin
with respect to not seeing Mel Gibson's movie. My position is that it is
not "the Passion"...it is an RCC commentary about "the
Passion".[Terry Clifton]Hey Perry. No argument. You are
correct in that the movie does have a Catholic
You seem to be taking it personal I do not think anyone said anything "bad" about those that went.
Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I must say that I am in the same camp as Kevin with respect to not seeing Mel Gibson's movie. My position is that it is not "the Passion"...it is an RCC
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Good Morning Bill:
After posting Job 19:23-27 you follow with: Is there any question here that the Kinsmen Redeemer-God of Job
How is it that Jesus can be holy and at the same time embody fallen flesh? At no time in his life did he ever deny or refuse to participate in the aspects of holiness as they are defined by the Father/Son relationship. Jesus kept the unity. He kept the harmony. He kept the other-centeredness. He
I hear ya, buddy.
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How is it that Jesus can be holy and at
the same time embody fallen
jt: Why do you approach me as an enemy just because I speakwhat I believe on this
list Mr. Bill? Also why would you imply that I would oust you even if I
had the authority to do so? Such assumptions
BT : Well, Judy, maybe it's because you do not dialogue, you
speak from high above us.
From: "Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
jt: Why do you approach me
as an enemy just because I speakwhat I believe
on this list Mr.
Bill? Also why would you imply that I would oust you even if I
had the authority to do
so? Such assumptions
BT : Well, Judy, maybe it's because you do not
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jt: Why do you approach me as an enemy just because I speakwhat I believe on
this list Mr. Bill? Also why would you imply
hen
Jesus said this, he had enemies in mind. How can I know you are my sister, when
all you do is smack me around?
Bill
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] Please hear me
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t feeling threatened?
judyt
God allows the devil to raise up hereticsto
make his people study
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jt: Why do you approach me as an enemy just because I speakwhat I believe on
this list Mr. Bill? Also why would you imply that I would oust yo
Judy asks, "Is itpossible for you to show me
where you are at byscripture without feeling threatened?"
Bill responds, I will earnestly try to do this. On
March 3, Terry wrote me in reply to my post concerning the go'el aspect
of Christ's atoning work. He said,I understood what you
said
From:
Wm.
Taylor
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Job 19:23-27 -- "Oh, that my words were written!
Oh, that they were inscribed in a book! That they were engraved on a rock
With an iron pen and lead, forever! For I know that my Redeemer
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jt: Why do you approach me as an enemy just because I speakwhat I believe on this list Mr. Bill? Also why would you imply that I would oust you even if I had the authority to do so? Such assumptions
BT : Well, Judy, maybe it's because you
Careful Kevin. Someday we have to give account for
every idle word.
Terry
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And how is it that Job will see God after his death, yet still in his own flesh?
It is real simple:
When Job is resurrected, in his flesh he will see God
What is so hard about that?
Man you have a Gordian KNOT Theology!
How long did it take to learn all this?
I hope it does not unravel on ya!
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From:
Wm.
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Job 19:23-27 -- "Oh, that my words were written!
Oh, that they were inscribed in a book! That they were engraved on a
Okay, Judy, I'll turn my other cheek.
You say, "Why is it so difficult to believe that
God is able to create a holy child in the womb of Mary?"
I say, it is not difficult for me to believe this.
In fact, it is just what I do believe. What I don't accept is adefinition
of "holy" that does
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