RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2006-01-31 Thread Dean Moore
  - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/31/2006 9:40:41 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] What is sin? Dean, what is your definition of sin and would you please give me a few examples of "sin."   You say in this post that before your b

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin

2005-07-08 Thread Judy Taylor
  Well what do you know Lance, do you check your facts first or talk first and check later?  jt   MSNBC reports.. Osama bin Laden named Canada one of five so-called Christian nations that should be targeted for acts of terror. The others, reaffirmed last year by his al-Qaida network, were

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin

2005-07-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
http://famulus.msnbc.com/famulusgen/ap07-04-091713.asp?t=APNEW ''There is a direct threat to Canada and Canadian interests from al-Qaida and related groups,'' Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Once upon a time in a land far, far awaythereafter children, the hearts of all inhabitants

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin

2005-07-08 Thread Lance Muir
Once upon a time in a land far, far awaythereafter children, the hearts of all inhabitants of the planet were inclined toward evil doing.even those who experienced 'heart redemption' were capable wrongdoing daily...Let's see...hmm...that'd make for how many 'terrorist' groups?  Y

RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2005-06-02 Thread ShieldsFamily
  David, thanks for this: I think it will help me understand where JD is coming from much better. Iz   -Original Message- John wrote: > Some sins stop -- but others only decrease in influence.   I think you are confusing the source of sin, temptation, with sin itself.  I a

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin

2005-05-25 Thread knpraise
Good illustration.   Tell us of your experience with blinders.  Inquiring minds  --  -Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 25 May 2005 13:47:17 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin Exactly right, jt.  When o

RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin

2005-05-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
Exactly right, jt.  When one has blinders on how do they see? (Or is it logs?) Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 2:57 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTal

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2005-05-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
We need more conservative Supreme Court Judges here to knock that nonsense off.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:02 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin

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2005-05-24 Thread Lance Muir
Read 'tomorrow's' Wall Street Journal. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 24, 2005 12:50 Subject: [Bulk] RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin At least it isn’t yet a hate crime in America to read Bib

RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin

2005-05-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
At least it isn’t yet a hate crime in America to read Bible verses about sodomy. Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 4:43 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTal

RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin

2005-05-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
(He thinks he is the reincarnation of Mr. Rogers.) Iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 7:40 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin   DAVEH:   Just how old are you, Lance

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2005-05-24 Thread Lance Muir
I am the 2,000 year old man (Mel Brooks) - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 24, 2005 09:40 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin DAVEH:   Just how old are you, Lance!!!   =-O Lance Muir wrote

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin

2005-05-24 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH:   Just how old are you, Lance!!!   =-O Lance Muir wrote: Been saying the Lord would return since He ascended. -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six e

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin

2005-05-24 Thread Lance Muir
Surprise me and, I'll agree. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 24, 2005 08:57 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin methinks you are too opinionated about what you are unfamiliar

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin

2005-05-24 Thread Kevin Deegan
methinks you are too opinionated about what you are unfamiliar with NOoo Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please describe for me the hierarchy on TT? I know you will call DM a pope but who are the cardinals, bishops, etc?  BSF may have a board but there is no religious hi

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin

2005-05-24 Thread Kevin Deegan
methinks you are too opinionated about what you are unfamiliar with NOoo   Gotta Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please describe for me the hierarchy on TT? I know you will call DM a pope but who are the cardinals, bishops, etc?  BSF may have a board but there is no rel

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin

2005-05-24 Thread Kevin Deegan
methinks you are too opinionated about what you are unfamiliar with NOoo   Gotta keep Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please describe for me the hierarchy on TT? I know you will call DM a pope but who are the cardinals, bishops, etc?  BSF may have a board but there is n

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin

2005-05-23 Thread knpraise
  The scripture quoted below is evidence that my thoughts are not "pure speculation."  There is nothing, in fact, that I believe that is not grounded in scripture.   Doesn't mean my thinking is right  --  but it (my thinking) comes from a desire to be biblically based.    If I do not understand co

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin

2005-05-23 Thread Lance Muir
'Being as Communion' (JZ) SVS press I always keep it in stock. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 22, 2005 16:14 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin   May I recomend the writin

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin

2005-05-22 Thread knpraise
.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 22 May 2005 14:11:28 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin JD, do you just like talking to yourself, or would you like to use words that really mean something to someone other than yourself? What the heck was “ontological scale” supposed to mean??? Izzy  

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin

2005-05-22 Thread knpraise
I left the highlight ---  click and see what you think.    JD      -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 22 May 2005 13:57:49 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin    . sin--the disobedience of a prideful autonomy which impaired t

RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin

2005-05-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
JD, do you just like talking to yourself, or would you like to use words that really mean something to someone other than yourself? What the heck was “ontological scale” supposed to mean??? Izzy   If reconciliation has a practical application, would that not

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin

2005-05-22 Thread knpraise
   . sin--the disobedience of a prideful autonomy which impaired the human capacity to   John Paul II     Think about it  !!!    Reconciliation is a done deal, accomplished in the body of His flesh, at His death and inclusive of all of creation (Col 1:17ff),  but there remains those who ar

RE: [TruthTalk] What is Sin

2004-10-28 Thread Hughes Jonathan
Here is a sermon by a person I highly respect (Victor Shepherd) on the subject of defining sin.  Enjoy.   Crucial Words in the Christian Vocabulary: Sin (3) Genesis 3:1-7 Romans 1:28-30 Ephesians 2:1-10 Mark 7:14 -23 Some people enjoy restoring antique automobiles.  Some p

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-28 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/27/2004 10:26:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: understand what you are saying, but I have to admit that I abhor that way of thinking.  From my perspective, sin is much more than a consideration in the mind of God, and so is righteousness.  From my pers

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-27 Thread Terry Clifton
From my perspective, sin is much more than a consideration in the mind of God, and so is righteousness. From my perspective, when we believe in Jesus Christ, we become justified before God, not because he considers faith for righteousness, but because faith appropriates in a real way the ri

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-27 Thread David Miller
John wrote: The scriptures, at least some of them, do teach that Christ was made to be sin. But I do not see this as a personal possessing of sin, rather, a consideration in the mind of God the Father, much as God's consideration of faith for righteousness. Do you understand? I understand what

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-27 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: ... He then descended into hell upon his death ... Slade wrote: When you state this, are you implying "grave" when you say "hell?" If not, can you please tell me where I can find the concept that Yeshua went to hell (Gei Hinnom) after his death? I understand hell to be Sheol, di

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-25 Thread LaurHamm
In a message dated 10/25/2004 10:13:04 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: coveting what one cannot possess (?)  Think In and Out.John Coveting   huh?  Who me???  Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-25 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/25/2004 7:40:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is wrong for you guys to talk about these burgers when most of us can't get them where we live   ROTFL At least Kay said she'd try to look for the recipe.  And just "What is sin anyway?"    Laura covetin

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-25 Thread LaurHamm
In a message dated 10/25/2004 8:41:43 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Double-Double with Cheese has got to be the finest 'burger around.   -- slade It is wrong for you guys to talk about these burgers when most of us can't get them where we live   ROTF

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-25 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/25/2004 6:37:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Double-Double with Cheese has got to be the finest 'burger around.   -- slade You have nailed it, my friend. John

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-25 Thread ttxpress
ftr, y/ours is a pagan culture, due in part to Christians who cling ever so tightly partic to political myth   On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:38:18 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:   myth   (addressed wisely in an earlier post today)   Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:27:17 -0400 Judy Taylor <[EM

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-25 Thread ttxpress
  myth   (addressed wisely in an earlier post today)   Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:27:17 -0400 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Daniel didn't ..criticiz[e] the government even in a pagan culture.

RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-25 Thread Slade Henson
The Double-Double with Cheese has got to be the finest 'burger around.   -- slade -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, 24 October, 2004 22.30To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-25 Thread Judy Taylor
    Judyt: True Daniels prayer below is for God's people and Jerusalem because Judah were in captivity in a foreign culture. My point is that Daniel didn't sit around griping about his situation and/or criticizing the government even in a pagan culture. He refused to worship the golden idol

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-25 Thread ttxpress
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:16:56 -0400 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: As a believer I am called to pray for our President. ^   myth   -- E.g., there's neither one word here for Darius the Mede, nor for Persia, nor for Babylon, but there is total concern for (eschatol

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-25 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:45:41 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 10/25, jt: >Daniel didn't have a problem with Nebuchadnezzar did he?    to the contrary, Dan 2:24,5 indicate that Dan took certain steps to solve his problem/s with Babylon why are you questiong thi

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-25 Thread ttxpress
10/25, jt: >Daniel didn't have a problem with Nebuchadnezzar did he?    to the contrary, Dan 2:24,5 indicate that Dan took certain steps to solve his problem/s with Babylon   why are you questiong this(?); iow, why the reluctance to criticize your gov't., even when it really deserves i

RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-25 Thread Slade Henson
t: Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin? In a message dated 10/24/2004 9:30:46 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i have called my wife and told her to bring me an In and Out Burger  --- I hope you all are happy.   John Yeah  That makes me happy (assuming you don

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-25 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/25/2004 12:43:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another acquaintance (I got a million of 'em) of mine is listening to Stern's translation. I'd recommend it. I recently purchased the commentary.   Good book  -- Jewish bias and all.   Very useful.   John

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-25 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/24/2004 9:47:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: when did King James become a radical conservative? Moments before writing the Declaration of Independence. J

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-25 Thread Lance Muir
pire State Building. Did anyone see this referenced anywhere following 9:11?a  - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 25, 2004 05:14 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?     On Sun, 24 Oct 20

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-25 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:27:27 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On the cross John.  Christ was made to be sin for us who knew no sin. He took our place IOW he did not know sin before the cross. He was not born with a sin nature and he did not succumb to any temptation during his ea

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-25 Thread Judy Taylor
  Judyt: I don't recall writing your "myth" below Gary - Don't remember the exact words on [1] at all. [2] May be a remnant from Psalm 2 out of the Amplified Bible which I did post; the focus being how we should pay homage to (a loaded term) and kiss the son lest his wrath be kindled against

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-25 Thread Lance Muir
Another acquaintance (I got a million of 'em) of mine is listening to Stern's translation. I'd recommend it. - Original Message - From: Slade Henson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 24, 2004 20:38 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin? D.

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-24 Thread ttxpress
1., below, is myth   (it's not possible now, for anyone in Am.; there are too many historic roots and political and economic parallels solidified betw all church/es and state/s--e.g., in christianity, the amorphous Cath. ch. 'effectively' adaptd to Hitlerism; it adapts to America (named for

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-24 Thread ttxpress
  Fri, 22 Oct 2004 17:47:14 -0400, DavidM >>.. as you can see, Paul's style was to quote sayings and proverbs which do>>not have an origin in Scripture..     when did King James become a radical conservative?

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-24 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/24/2004 8:21:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: makes me happy (assuming you don't eat the bun)   BUT  did you have to say In and Out Burger?   We don't have them here and my son went to CA and came back raving about them.  Now you made me hungry!!!  Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-24 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/24/2004 8:12:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On the cross John.  Christ was made to be sin for us who knew no sin. He took our place IOW he did not know sin before the cross. He was not born with a sin nature and he did not succumb to any temptation dur

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-24 Thread LaurHamm
In a message dated 10/24/2004 9:30:46 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i have called my wife and told her to bring me an In and Out Burger  --- I hope you all are happy.   John Yeah  That makes me happy (assuming you don't eat the bun)   BUT  did you have to say In

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
Exactly. And so simple to understand for those with minds uncluttered by untruths. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 7:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?   Judy

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-24 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/24/2004 7:02:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey John    You can have the whole thing!!!  No carbs and no fat!!  LOL  Laura i have called my wife and told her to bring me an In and Out Burger  --- I hope you all are happy.   John

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-24 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/24/2004 6:55:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They're my favorite.   -- slade Your ability to cause deep pain  rises to the level of a professional  -:) John

RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-24 Thread Slade Henson
I hope you like cherry...     They're my favorite.   -- slade <>

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-24 Thread Knpraise
: [TruthTalk] What is sin? In a message dated 10/24/2004 6:18:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I fully expect those of this persuasion to be contradictory in their essay(s) because they are wrong in their general and primary assumptions. Ok. Have a nice day. There is not a single

RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-24 Thread Slade Henson
Do you want one? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, 24 October, 2004 21.32To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?In a message dated 10/24/2004 6:18:25 PM Pacific Daylight

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-24 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/24/2004 6:18:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I fully expect those of this persuasion to be contradictory in their essay(s) because they are wrong in their general and primary assumptions.   Ok. Have a nice day. There is not a single piece of pie in t

RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-24 Thread Slade Henson
I fully expect those of this persuasion to be contradictory in their essay(s) because they are wrong in their general and primary assumptions.   Ok. Have a nice day.

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-24 Thread Knpraise
essage- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 24 October, 2004 19.37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin? In a message dated 10/24/2004 10:24:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you know what

RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-24 Thread Slade Henson
4 19.37To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?In a message dated 10/24/2004 10:24:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you know what set me off?John    No.  slade Slade says:   Your last comment, "Whether this contradicts his statement in an

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-24 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/24/2004 10:24:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you know what set me off? John    No.   slade Slade says:    Your last comment, "Whether this contradicts his statement in another part of the book is of no concern to me" is a typical response fr

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-24 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/24/2004 10:23:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scripture tells us Avraham believed YHVH and it was accounted to him as righteousness. Scripture tells us the commandments of  God are righteous and to perform them will be righteousness to us.   But to ans

RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-24 Thread Slade Henson
Do you know what set me off?John     No.   slade 

RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-24 Thread Slade Henson
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, 24 October, 2004 02.51To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?In a message dated 10/22/2004 2:43:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-24 Thread Slade Henson
  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, 24 October, 2004 02.51To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?In a message dated 10/22/2004 2:43:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-24 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/24/2004 1:01:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On the cross John.  Christ was made to be sin for us who knew no sin. He took our place IOW he did not know sin before the cross. He was not born with a sin nature and he did not succumb to any temptation dur

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-24 Thread Terry Clifton
Judy Taylor wrote:     On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:45:59 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: \ Judyt: On the cross John.  Christ was made to be sin for us who knew no sin. He took our place IOW he did not know sin before the cross. He was not born with a sin nature and he did

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-24 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:50:31 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John -- I just know that God exchanges faith for righteousness because He has to. jt: Why does he have to?  I wouldn't think that God would have to do anything other than keep His own Word.   Slade -- Faith was the b

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-24 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:45:59 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 10/22/2004 12:07:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:David Miller wrote: Jesus Christ had sin, but he was not a sinner. Would you agree with this statement?John: Perhaps I am being too

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-24 Thread Judy Taylor
  In a message dated 10/22/2004 8:50:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:of course not, jt(!)  let's think:  i suspect that consciousness of sin is an original concept of the Ap Paul, spiritually, rediscovrd periodically by, e.g. MLuthr,   jt: Consciousness of sin hasn't go

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-23 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 01:40:56 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 10/22/2004 8:04:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Shall we sin then that grace may abound?  jt  On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:48:33 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: th' more law keepin' in

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-23 Thread Knpraise
ECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 22 October, 2004 08.04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin? I was not the example I intend to be the other day with Slade.  John Do you know what set me off?   I can let it go but I am curious.  John

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-23 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/22/2004 2:43:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John -- I just know that God exchanges faith for righteousness because He has to.   Slade -- Faith was the benchmark for righteousness even BEFORE Torah. Faith was the benchmark for righteousness after Sinai

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-23 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/22/2004 2:37:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John.. "little guy with curlly black hair who speaks Yiddish and pinches pennies???" It's time for the nastiness to cease. Cool your jets. We are all just trying to learn. There is NO REASON to get v

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-23 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/22/2004 12:07:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Miller wrote: >>Jesus Christ had sin, but he was not a sinner. >>Would you agree with this statement? Perhaps I am being too picky.   The scriptures, at least some of them, do teach that Christ was

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-23 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/22/2004 11:51:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John wrote: >I consider the Abrahamic covenant (to Abraham and his seed, Christ) >to be the same as that prophecied in Jere 31:31-34. So, then, you must believe that the New Covenant existed long before Chr

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-23 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/22/2004 11:45:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems to me that if Christ is the origin of all that is good, then seeing that Torah is good, holy, perfect, converting the soul, then it must have originated in Christ and be an _expression_ of Christ

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-23 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/22/2004 8:50:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: of course not, jt(!)   let's think:  i suspect that consciousness of sin is an original concept of the Ap Paul, spiritually, rediscovrd periodically by, e.g. MLuthr, else even we, inc Pedro, would well be mi

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-23 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/22/2004 8:04:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shall we sin then that grace may abound?  jt   On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:48:33 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: th' more law keepin' in which thou engageth, the more consciousness of sin thou wilt ferth experi

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-23 Thread Judy Taylor
ï   On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 10:38:44 -0400 "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:Someone wrote:  "He then descended into hell upon his death" Slade responds: When you state this, are you implying "grave" when you say "hell?" If not, can you please tell me where I can find the concept that Yesh

RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-23 Thread Slade Henson
ge- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Saturday, 23 October, 2004 10.22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin? Jonathan wrote: > If God became sin it is obvious that sin can be > in the presence of God God did not become sin.

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-23 Thread David Miller
Jonathan wrote: If God became sin it is obvious that sin can be in the presence of God God did not become sin. You seem to be overlooking what the Scriptures say in the Philippians passage that I quoted. Christ did not consider equality with God something to be held onto, but he emptied himself

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-23 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/22/2004 7:41:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: :)  l,  g   On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:40:51 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 10/22/2004 4:07:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: then John Calvin is Pedro's daddy  g

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
Job also was perfect in God's eyes. Izzy > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller > Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 9:47 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin? > &

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
bject: RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin?   The appropriate response should have been:   Jonathan, you are right.  I am sorry for putting you in the 'liberal' Christian category.  Yes you did use scripture.  You did support your claim.  The problem really does lie in myself.  I am very ashame

RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-22 Thread Slade Henson
tober, 2004 08.04To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?I was not the example I intend to be the other day with Slade.  John

RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-22 Thread Slade Henson
g upon the interpretation of the Hebrew word "Hadasha."   - slade -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, 21 October, 2004 21.45To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?In a message d

RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-22 Thread Slade Henson
Thank you, Judy, for a well-rounded post.   -- slade -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Friday, 22 October, 2004 02.02To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin

RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-22 Thread Slade Henson
12.18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin? Terry wrote: > I did not call Paul a sinner. He said that about himself, and said it in > present tense, not past. He was, of course, exaggerating. Exaggerating? Wouldn't that mean that Paul lied? I have more th

RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-22 Thread Slade Henson
-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, 21 October, 2004 03.09To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?In a message dated 10/20/2004 11:29:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judyt

RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-22 Thread Slade Henson
There was a reason for the Law and Paul tells us what that reason was  --  right there in the Galatian letter.   John   In your opinion, is the only function of Torah the schoolmaster to lead people to Christ?   -- slade

RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-22 Thread Slade Henson
ECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, 21 October, 2004 02.25To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin? In a message dated 10/20/2004 3:16:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Take a pill, Jeff.   You think God is a

RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-22 Thread Hughes Jonathan
EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 2:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin? John wrote: > I consider the Abrahamic covenant (to Abraham and his seed, Christ) to > be the same as that prophecied in Je

RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-22 Thread Hughes Jonathan
d is and who His heart beats for. Jonathan Hughes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 3:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin? David Miller wrote: >> Jesus Christ had si

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-22 Thread Terry Clifton
David Miller wrote: Terry wrote: I would know because the Bible says so. ALL have sinned, everyone comes up short. There is none good, not one. Arrogance has nothing to do with it. We seem to be talking past each other. The Bible says that all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-22 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: Jesus Christ had sin, but he was not a sinner. Would you agree with this statement? John wrote: No I don't. Your scripture for the notion that Jesus had sin? For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-22 Thread David Miller
John wrote: I consider the Abrahamic covenant (to Abraham and his seed, Christ) to be the same as that prophecied in Jere 31:31-34. So, then, you must believe that the New Covenant existed long before Christ came, and that people, such as Abraham, or Zachariah and Elizabeth, experienced this cove

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-22 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: Considering this passage, do you see anything of Christ in Torah? If Torah is perfect and converts the soul, wouldn't that mean that it is Christ in Torah that is doing that? Do you understand what I am trying to say? John wrote: Actually, I do not. Do you believe that there i

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-22 Thread David Miller
Terry wrote: I would know because the Bible says so. ALL have sinned, everyone comes up short. There is none good, not one. Arrogance has nothing to do with it. We seem to be talking past each other. The Bible says that all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. This refers in past

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