RE: Graduation

2008-05-22 Thread Antollini, Mario
Congratulations for the achievement that demonstrates the great work being done! Mario

Re: Graduation

2008-05-22 Thread Paul Fremantle
Rats... unfortunately I'm in Sri Lanka so I can't make the Dolphin :( Paul On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Mike Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: >> >> This is great news! >> >> Congratulations and thank you to our mentors and the incubator folks for >> helping c

Re: Graduation

2008-05-22 Thread Mike Edwards
Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: This is great news! Congratulations and thank you to our mentors and the incubator folks for helping create the Tuscany community! When is the graduation party? We're having one in "The Dolphin" in Hursley tomorrow... ...you're welcome to join us ;-) We ne

Re: Graduation

2008-05-22 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Matthieu Riou wrote: "Special order 7B, Establish the Apache Tuscany Project, was approved by Unanimous Vote of the directors present." Congratulations guys! Matthieu This is great news! Congratulations and thank you to our mentors and the incubator folks for helping create the Tuscany com

Re: Graduation

2008-05-22 Thread Dan Becker
Matthieu Riou wrote: Congratulations guys! Congratulations to all. Many put in an extreme amount of hard work, and I think it shows favorably in the project. Enjoy the recognition. -- Thanks, Dan Becker

Re: Graduation

2008-05-22 Thread Ignacio Silva-Lepe
Happy to hear the great news! Congratulations to everyone. Ignacio On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Special order 7B, Establish the Apache Tuscany Project, was approved by > Unanimous Vote of the directors present." > > Congratulations guys! > > Matthie

Re: Graduation

2008-05-22 Thread Mike Edwards
Matthieu Riou wrote: "Special order 7B, Establish the Apache Tuscany Project, was approved by Unanimous Vote of the directors present." Congratulations guys! Matthieu Great news everyone!! Thanks to everyone for a lot of hard work and dedication. I think that the next year will be the year

Re: Graduation

2008-05-22 Thread Simon Nash
Matthieu Riou wrote: "Special order 7B, Establish the Apache Tuscany Project, was approved by Unanimous Vote of the directors present." Congratulations guys! Matthieu Thanks for this excellent news. It has been great to be part of the Tuscany community in our journey towards full Apache-hood

Re: Graduation

2008-05-22 Thread Simon Laws
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 7:57 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/22/08, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Congratulations everyone! > > +1 > Robert > > > > > Paul > > > > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 3:43 AM, Vamsavardhana Reddy > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> T

Re: Graduation

2008-05-21 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On 5/22/08, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Congratulations everyone! +1 Robert > > Paul > > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 3:43 AM, Vamsavardhana Reddy > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> That's great news. >> >> ++Vamsi >> >> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:44 AM, Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >

Re: Graduation

2008-05-21 Thread Paul Fremantle
Congratulations everyone! Paul On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 3:43 AM, Vamsavardhana Reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's great news. > > ++Vamsi > > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:44 AM, Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> "Special order 7B, Establish the Apache Tuscany Project, was approve

Re: Graduation

2008-05-21 Thread Vamsavardhana Reddy
That's great news. ++Vamsi On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:44 AM, Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Special order 7B, Establish the Apache Tuscany Project, was approved by > Unanimous Vote of the directors present." > > Congratulations guys! > > Matthieu >

Re: Graduation

2008-05-21 Thread Feng Wang
This is an exciting news. Congratulations. Thanks, Feng Wang On 2008-05-22 05:15:30,Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >"Special order 7B, Establish the Apache Tuscany Project, was approved by >Unanimous Vote of the directors present." > >Congratulations guys! > >Matthieu >

Re: Graduation

2008-05-21 Thread 王洪伟
Congratulations ! 2008/5/22, Haleh Mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Congratulations to all. > > -Original Message- > From: Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:19 PM > To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org > Subject: Re: Graduati

Re: Graduation

2008-05-21 Thread Raymond Feng
I'm excited to hear the great news. We finally graduate in the graduation season after a long journey! Cheers, Tuscany is now a TLP! Thanks, Raymond -- From: "Matthieu Riou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:14 PM To: "tuscany-de

RE: Graduation

2008-05-21 Thread Haleh Mahbod
Congratulations to all. -Original Message- From: Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:19 PM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: Graduation Hey, thanks for the good news. On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Graduation

2008-05-21 Thread Luciano Resende
Hey, thanks for the good news. On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Special order 7B, Establish the Apache Tuscany Project, was approved by > Unanimous Vote of the directors present." > > Congratulations guys! > > Matthieu > -- Luciano Resende Apache Tus

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-11 Thread haleh mahbod
If someone is a very active contributor, he/she is most likely watching the commit list as well as the dev list. If someone is just subscribed to the dev list to watch the key discussions and occasionally gets involved, he/she would not want to see all the JIRA updates. This assumes that new disc

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-09 Thread Simon Nash
ant elder wrote: On Feb 6, 2008 5:28 PM, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One other consideration - sometimes it's appropriate to reply to a JIRA rather than updating the issue: if there are two lists, on has to decide - should the replies go to both or just dev? In such a case I thin

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-07 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
ant elder wrote: On Feb 6, 2008 5:28 PM, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One other consideration - sometimes it's appropriate to reply to a JIRA rather than updating the issue: if there are two lists, on has to decide - should the replies go to both or just dev? In such a case I thin

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-07 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
sebb wrote: Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Or can we configure JIRA to only send a message when a comment is added to an issue? Surely one needs all the JIRA changes? You're right, I was initially thinking that we could cut on the number of useless JIRA notifications, but after reviewing a

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-07 Thread ant elder
On Feb 6, 2008 5:28 PM, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One other consideration - sometimes it's appropriate to reply to a > > JIRA rather than updating the issue: if there are two lists, on has to > > decide - should the replies go to both or just dev? > > > In such a case I think the r

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-06 Thread Raymond Feng
IL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:00 AM Subject: Re: Graduation next steps If we are going to remove JIRAs from dev list, my personal preference would be to have a notification list and have JIRA, Build notifications, etc sent to this list. But I'm still not convinced that

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-06 Thread Simon Nash
sebb wrote: On 05/02/2008, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Simon Nash wrote: Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: [snip] - route the JIRA traffic out of the dev list as suggested by Matthieu I understand that this traffic can get a bit overwhelming at times, but I'd like to make

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-06 Thread Simon Nash
Venkata Krishnan wrote: Typically these discussions have multiple aspects to it and we end up bringing perspectives to each aspect. If there is such a topic then I'd think the WIKI is a good place. There could be one description of the problem and comments by the community at various points. S

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-06 Thread kelvin goodson
My top 3 in http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/Graduation+Next+Stepsare 11,12,13,19,22,32/33,38 and 18 but modified to have a policy of being vocal early when no-one has the bandwidth to address an incoming JIRA. I know that's not 3, but hey! I can't see on the wiki page the

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-06 Thread kelvin goodson
I like to be able to look at a JIRA and readily find the discussion relating to it, so I find having technical discussion as a series of comments in the JIRA helpful. In this pattern it makes sense to copy JIRA comments to the dev list, as it forms the substance of our technical communication. I k

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-06 Thread Luciano Resende
If we are going to remove JIRAs from dev list, my personal preference would be to have a notification list and have JIRA, Build notifications, etc sent to this list. But I'm still not convinced that moving JIRA out of the dev mailing list is the best solution here. On Feb 6, 2008 5:26 AM, ant elde

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-06 Thread ant elder
On Feb 4, 2008 8:06 PM, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - route the JIRA traffic out of the dev list as suggested by Matthieu > > > I understand that this traffic can get a bit overwhelming at times, but > I'd like to make the case that it does have value for new developers > (though not

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-06 Thread ant elder
On Feb 6, 2008 10:27 AM, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Feb 6, 2008 10:23 AM, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jan 31, 2008 1:41 PM, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I'd like to get some discussion going on what we want to do for > > > graduating t

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-06 Thread ant elder
On Feb 6, 2008 10:23 AM, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jan 31, 2008 1:41 PM, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'd like to get some discussion going on what we want to do for > > graduating to an Apache TLP. > > > > The attempt back in November raised issues about diversit

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-06 Thread ant elder
On Jan 31, 2008 1:41 PM, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to get some discussion going on what we want to do for graduating > to an Apache TLP. > > The attempt back in November raised issues about diversity and since then > it feels like we've just been waiting around hoping diversi

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-05 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Venkata Krishnan wrote: Typically these discussions have multiple aspects to it and we end up bringing perspectives to each aspect. If there is such a topic then I'd think the WIKI is a good place. There could be one description of the problem and comments by the community at various points. S

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-05 Thread Venkata Krishnan
Typically these discussions have multiple aspects to it and we end up bringing perspectives to each aspect. If there is such a topic then I'd think the WIKI is a good place. There could be one description of the problem and comments by the community at various points. So at any time one knows wh

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-05 Thread Simon Nash
Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Simon Nash wrote: Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: [snip] - route the JIRA traffic out of the dev list as suggested by Matthieu I understand that this traffic can get a bit overwhelming at times, but I'd like to make the case that it does have value for new develop

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-05 Thread ant elder
On Feb 5, 2008 10:09 AM, sebb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: However few (if any) mail archives seem to offer such facilies and so > can be difficult to read if there are lots of JIRA messages mixed in > with the rest. > Thats a good point. Up till now I've thought its better to have the JIRA email

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-05 Thread sebb
On 05/02/2008, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Simon Nash wrote: > > Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: > [snip] > >> - route the JIRA traffic out of the dev list as suggested by Matthieu > >> > > I understand that this traffic can get a bit overwhelming at times, but > > I'd like to

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-05 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Simon Nash wrote: Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: [snip] - route the JIRA traffic out of the dev list as suggested by Matthieu I understand that this traffic can get a bit overwhelming at times, but I'd like to make the case that it does have value for new developers (though not for users). On

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-04 Thread Venkata Krishnan
My +1 as well to all the points that have been brought out. I am certainly for picking out a couple rightaway and starting with some baby steps. I think we must have an IRC session soon to review our JIRAs. Thanks - Venkat

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-04 Thread Raymond Feng
The e-mail is getting long :-). I just want to add my +1 to these great ideas. I definitely willing to help in various areas. Thanks, Raymond - Original Message - From: "Simon Nash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Gradu

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-04 Thread Simon Nash
Simon Laws wrote: On Jan 31, 2008 1:41 PM, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd like to get some discussion going on what we want to do for graduating to an Apache TLP. The attempt back in November raised issues about diversity and since then it feels like we've just been waiting around ho

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-04 Thread Simon Nash
Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Matthieu Riou wrote: > >(cut) What you've said sounds good, here's a few more suggestions. JIRAs, patches and features: - cleanup and organize JIRAs to help people find where to contribute +1 - apply patches from contributors more quickly +1 - have a roa

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-03 Thread Giorgio Zoppi
> > what about using Docbook for documenting things? > > I can't comment on that as I don't know docbook. Any thoughts from others? I was thinking about a developer manual: * your general structure, the invocation infrastructure, the fact that components are active objects...and so on. > > > Anot

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-03 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Giorgio Zoppi wrote: 2008/2/3, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: There's a lot i think the project could do to encourage others to participate, here's a few things I can think of - We have a lot of downloads and real users, we need to try to get more of these people engaged and contri

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-03 Thread Giorgio Zoppi
2008/2/3, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>> There's a lot i think the project could do to encourage others to > >>> participate, here's a few things I can think of - > >>> > >>> We have a lot of downloads and real users, we need to try to get more of > >>> these people engaged and c

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-02 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Matthieu Riou wrote: I'm happy to see this discussion going and I think most of the points listed make a lot of sense. A small detail to add to the list that I think could have some importance: your -dev list is flooded by Jira issues. Newcomers interested in Tuscany's development are very likel

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-02 Thread Matthieu Riou
I'm happy to see this discussion going and I think most of the points listed make a lot of sense. A small detail to add to the list that I think could have some importance: your -dev list is flooded by Jira issues. Newcomers interested in Tuscany's development are very likely to get overwhelmed by

Re: Graduation next steps

2008-02-01 Thread Simon Laws
On Jan 31, 2008 1:41 PM, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to get some discussion going on what we want to do for graduating > to an Apache TLP. > > The attempt back in November raised issues about diversity and since then > it > feels like we've just been waiting around hoping diver

RE: Graduation: Spec Openness

2007-10-09 Thread Brady Johnson
Subject: Re: Graduation: Spec Openness Mike Edwards wrote: > Folks, > > I'd like to offer a different perspective > > Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: >>> >>> That all sounds good to me (assuming that means no work in Tuscany >>> on OSOA things th

Re: Graduation: Spec Openness

2007-10-03 Thread haleh mahbod
This is a good description of what Tuscany does in addition to the spec implementation. Is everyone OK with adding this text or a simpler version of it to the overview page? Tuscany is an implementation nursery for new areas of work that are not being worked in in places like OSOA and OASIS. Exam

Re: Graduation: Spec Openness

2007-10-03 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Mike Edwards wrote: Folks, I'd like to offer a different perspective Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: That all sounds good to me (assuming that means no work in Tuscany on OSOA things that are not public, which is what you mean right?) ...ant That's what I mean. I believe that

Re: Graduation Checklist, was: Graduation

2007-10-03 Thread Matthieu Riou
On 10/2/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > Simon Laws wrote: > > How about we put a check list up on the wiki so > > we all get a view of what's going on and what needs to be done by when. > I've > > started one here by copying the checklist from the graduation guide

Re: Graduation Checklist, was: Graduation

2007-10-03 Thread ant elder
The current make up of the PPMC is partly historical and in its current state isn't an accurate reflection of the diversity of the active commiters, we are actively fixing this as one of the TODO items before we graduate. ...ant On 10/3/07, Jeremy Boynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One issu

Re: Graduation Checklist, was: Graduation

2007-10-03 Thread Jeremy Boynes
One issue I see is diversity. The proposed PMC seems very dominated by a single vendor as, if I understand the affiliations correctly, we have: Andrew Borley (IBM) Andy Grove (RogueWave) ant elder (IBM) Ignacio Silva-Lepe (IBM) Jean-Sebastien Delfino (IBM) kelvin goodson (IBM) Luciano Resende

Re: Graduation: Spec Openness

2007-10-03 Thread Mike Edwards
Folks, I'd like to offer a different perspective Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: That all sounds good to me (assuming that means no work in Tuscany on OSOA things that are not public, which is what you mean right?) ...ant That's what I mean. I believe that in addition to imple

Re: Graduation Checklist, was: Graduation

2007-10-02 Thread Luciano Resende
On 10/2/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [snip] > Simon Laws wrote: > > How about we put a check list up on the wiki so > > we all get a view of what's going on and what needs to be done by when. I've > > started one here by copying the checklist from the graduation guide ( >

Re: Graduation

2007-10-02 Thread Mike Edwards
Folks, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: [snip] kelvin goodson wrote: Do people want to say something about things we're doing that are not covered by OpenCSA, the data access service work, the data binding work, and the SCA implementation and binding extensions that are not covered by OpenCSA? A

Re: Graduation

2007-10-02 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Luciano Resende wrote: I think the SDO group is just a little behind in the process, there was an e-mail to OASIS Members on 09/25/2007 with the subject "[members] Proposed Charter for OASIS Service Data Objects (SDO) Technical Committee". But others more involved with SDO can give more details.

Re: Graduation

2007-10-02 Thread Luciano Resende
I think the SDO group is just a little behind in the process, there was an e-mail to OASIS Members on 09/25/2007 with the subject "[members] Proposed Charter for OASIS Service Data Objects (SDO) Technical Committee". But others more involved with SDO can give more details. On 10/2/07, Jean-Sebast

Re: Graduation

2007-10-02 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
[snip] kelvin goodson wrote: Do people want to say something about things we're doing that are not covered by OpenCSA, the data access service work, the data binding work, and the SCA implementation and binding extensions that are not covered by OpenCSA? Are they all covered by the "based on th

Re: Graduation: Spec Openness

2007-10-02 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
ant elder wrote: On 10/1/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ant elder wrote: On 9/27/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 5 - On ongoing OSOA work. Assuming that there is ongoing work and that the mode of operation is unchanged, maybe we wait unt

Re: Graduation: Spec Openness

2007-10-02 Thread ant elder
On 10/1/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ant elder wrote: > > On 9/27/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > 5 - On ongoing OSOA work. Assuming that there is ongoing work and that > the > > > >> mode of operation is unchanged, maybe we wait until it reac

Re: Graduation

2007-10-02 Thread kelvin goodson
On 27/09/2007, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Simon Nash wrote: > > > > Paul Fremantle wrote: > > > >> +1 > >> > >> Paul > >> > >> On 9/27/07, Mike Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> Folks, > >>> > >>> My pennyworth: > >>> > >>> > >>> a Project Management Committee c

Re: Graduation

2007-10-02 Thread kelvin goodson
On 27/09/2007, Mike Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Folks, > > My pennyworth: > > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and > maintenance of open-source software supporting a range of technologies > that simplifies the development of service oriented applications and > pro

Re: Graduation: Spec Openness

2007-10-02 Thread Simon Laws
On 10/1/07, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > +1 This sounds reasonable, and open. > > On 10/1/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ant elder wrote: > > > On 9/27/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > 5 - On ongoing OSOA work. Assuming

Re: Graduation: Spec Openness

2007-10-01 Thread Luciano Resende
+1 This sounds reasonable, and open. On 10/1/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ant elder wrote: > > On 9/27/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > 5 - On ongoing OSOA work. Assuming that there is ongoing work and that the > > > >> mode of operation is unch

Re: Graduation: Spec Openness

2007-10-01 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
ant elder wrote: On 9/27/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 5 - On ongoing OSOA work. Assuming that there is ongoing work and that the mode of operation is unchanged, maybe we wait until it reaches OASIS. Thats the one i was mainly thinking about. "wait until it reaches OAS

Re: Graduation

2007-10-01 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
ant elder wrote: On 9/27/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about the following reordering: a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software that simplifies the development of service oriented applications and pro

Re: Graduation

2007-09-30 Thread Mike Edwards
Folks, In response to this query: Matthieu Riou wrote: 2 - Do the IPR terms chosen by the SCA TCs in OASIS make upcoming OSASIS specifications suitable for implementation by Tuscany when they appear? I guess we need to get the view from legal@ on this. Are these public yet? OASIS IPR te

Re: Graduation

2007-09-29 Thread ant elder
On 9/27/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How about the following reordering: > > > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and > > maintenance of open-source software that simplifies the development of > > service oriented applications and provides a man

Re: Graduation: Ability to Create Releases

2007-09-28 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Simon Laws wrote: On 9/28/07, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As Venkat said, we have been consistent making releases. We should be able to mark this done. I counted: SCA-Java 5 releases SCA+SDO-Native 3 releases on Linux, Windows, 1 on MacOS SDO-Java 4 releases DAS-Java 3

Re: Graduation: Ability to Create Releases

2007-09-28 Thread Simon Laws
On 9/28/07, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As Venkat said, we have been consistent making releases. We should be > able to mark this done. > > On 9/27/07, Venkata Krishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, I'd think so and this is not with just the 1.0 release but with the > > fac

Re: Graduation: Ability to Create Releases

2007-09-27 Thread Luciano Resende
As Venkat said, we have been consistent making releases. We should be able to mark this done. On 9/27/07, Venkata Krishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, I'd think so and this is not with just the 1.0 release but with the > fact that we have been consistent with releases for sometime now - rele

Re: Graduation: Ability to Create Releases

2007-09-27 Thread Venkata Krishnan
Yes, I'd think so and this is not with just the 1.0 release but with the fact that we have been consistent with releases for sometime now - releases of SCA, SDO and DAS. - Venkat On 9/27/07, Mike Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Folks, > > This is down as one of the checklist items for Tusc

Re: Graduation

2007-09-27 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Simon Nash wrote: Paul Fremantle wrote: +1 Paul On 9/27/07, Mike Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Folks, My pennyworth: a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software supporting a range of technologies that simplifies the development o

Re: Graduation

2007-09-27 Thread ant elder
On 9/27/07, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about the following reordering: > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and > maintenance of open-source software that simplifies the development of > service oriented applications and provides a managed service-oriented

Re: Graduation: Spec Openness

2007-09-27 Thread Simon Nash
ant elder wrote: On 9/27/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 5 - On ongoing OSOA work. Assuming that there is ongoing work and that the mode of operation is unchanged, maybe we wait until it reaches OASIS. Thats the one i was mainly thinking about. "wait until it reaches OASIS" i

Re: Graduation

2007-09-27 Thread Simon Laws
On 9/27/07, Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/27/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 9/27/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On 9/27/07, Mike Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > > > Simon Laws wrote: > > > > > On 9

Re: Graduation

2007-09-27 Thread Simon Nash
Mike Edwards wrote: Folks, Simon Laws wrote: On 9/27/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/27/07, Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So you have 4 more days after Sunday :) But there's no reason to rush out, I'm just clarifying the timeline, you'll be ready when you'll

Re: Graduation

2007-09-27 Thread Simon Nash
Paul Fremantle wrote: +1 Paul On 9/27/07, Mike Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Folks, My pennyworth: a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software supporting a range of technologies that simplifies the development of service oriented

Re: Graduation: Spec Openness

2007-09-27 Thread ant elder
On 9/27/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 5 - On ongoing OSOA work. Assuming that there is ongoing work and that the > mode of operation is unchanged, maybe we wait until it reaches OASIS. Thats the one i was mainly thinking about. "wait until it reaches OASIS" is one option but it do

Re: Graduation

2007-09-27 Thread Matthieu Riou
On 9/27/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/27/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 9/27/07, Mike Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > Simon Laws wrote: > > > > On 9/27/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> On 9/27/07, Matthieu

Re: Graduation

2007-09-27 Thread Simon Nash
ant elder wrote: On 9/27/07, Mike Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Folks, Simon Laws wrote: On 9/27/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/27/07, Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So you have 4 more days after Sunday :) But there's no reason to rush out, I'm just cl

Re: Graduation: Spec Openness

2007-09-27 Thread Simon Laws
On 9/27/07, Mike Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Folks, > > Starting another thread based on Ant's comment: > > - the openness of the specs and our interaction with OSOA has been > brought up before by the Incubator. Most things have now moved to OASIS > and that should resolve those issues

Re: Graduation: PPMC Diversity

2007-09-27 Thread ant elder
On 9/27/07, Mike Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Folks, > > I've split this off as its a specific action item for Graduation. > > Based on Ant's comment: > > - the PPMC doesn't yet reflect the diversity of the committers. We've > all been a bit busy with 1.0 etc and there's a few people now

Re: Graduation

2007-09-27 Thread Simon Laws
On 9/27/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/27/07, Mike Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Folks, > > > > Simon Laws wrote: > > > On 9/27/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> On 9/27/07, Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> So you ha

Re: Graduation

2007-09-27 Thread Paul Fremantle
+1 Paul On 9/27/07, Mike Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Folks, > > My pennyworth: > > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and > maintenance of open-source software supporting a range of technologies > that simplifies the development of service oriented applications an

Re: Graduation

2007-09-27 Thread Mike Edwards
Folks, My pennyworth: a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software supporting a range of technologies that simplifies the development of service oriented applications and provides a managed service-oriented runtime, based on the standards d

Re: Graduation

2007-09-27 Thread ant elder
On 9/27/07, Mike Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Folks, > > Simon Laws wrote: > > On 9/27/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On 9/27/07, Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> So you have 4 more days after Sunday :) But there's no reason to rush > out, > >>>

Re: Graduation

2007-09-27 Thread Mike Edwards
Folks, Simon Laws wrote: On 9/27/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/27/07, Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So you have 4 more days after Sunday :) But there's no reason to rush out, I'm just clarifying the timeline, you'll be ready when you'll be ready and you can also

Re: Graduation

2007-09-27 Thread Paul Fremantle
> > Yep, with the "provides a managed service-oriented runtime" bit moved > forward that scans better. > > To me "based on the standards" doesn't imply "limited to the standards". > Works for me. Everyone happy from a scope point of view? Yes I deliberately avoided limiting this to the standards.

Re: Graduation

2007-09-27 Thread Simon Laws
On 9/27/07, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How about this? > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and > maintenance of open-source software that simplifies the development of > service oriented applications and provides a managed service-oriented > runtime, base

Re: Graduation

2007-09-27 Thread Paul Fremantle
How about this? a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software that simplifies the development of service oriented applications and provides a managed service-oriented runtime, based on the standards defined by the OASIS OpenCSA group, for distribu

Re: Graduation

2007-09-27 Thread ant elder
On 9/27/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/27/07, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > How about > > > > charged with the creation and maintenance of open source software that: > > * simplifies the development of service oriented applications, > > * implements the SCA s

Re: Graduation

2007-09-27 Thread Simon Laws
On 9/27/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/27/07, Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > So you have 4 more days after Sunday :) But there's no reason to rush out, > > I'm just clarifying the timeline, you'll be ready when you'll be ready > and > > you can also target Nov.

Re: Graduation

2007-09-27 Thread Simon Laws
On 9/27/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This first part seems like a big improvement to me: > > "open-source software that simplifies development and management of > applications using service oriented approach." > > I've updated the text on the wiki to say that, I'm not so sure about

Re: Graduation

2007-09-27 Thread Simon Laws
On 9/27/07, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How about > > charged with the creation and maintenance of open source software that: > * simplifies the development of service oriented applications, > * implements the SCA standards as defined by the OpenCSA group at OASIS, > and > * provi

Re: Graduation

2007-09-27 Thread Paul Fremantle
How about charged with the creation and maintenance of open source software that: * simplifies the development of service oriented applications, * implements the SCA standards as defined by the OpenCSA group at OASIS, and * provides a managed service-oriented runtime for services and applications.

Re: Graduation

2007-09-27 Thread ant elder
I know you're good at words so how about help come up with a good description for the TLP proposal of what Tuscany is about? http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/Draft+TLP+Resolution Which currently just says "open-source software that simplifies development and management of a

Re: Graduation

2007-09-27 Thread Paul Fremantle
Guys Sorry to be so quiet on this thread! How can I help? Paul On 9/27/07, Venkata Krishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seems ok to me.. .may be we could say 'embedded in app servers like Tomcat > and Geronimo' (just to bring in the connecting that we are doing with other > Apache projects. Y

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