Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-15 Thread Who
http://cozyteapot.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=2 what do ya think? Worked fine for me -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-15 Thread Billy
On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 01:04 -0500, Billy wrote: On Sat, 2006-05-13 at 12:53 +, Billy wrote: On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 12:04 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Billy wrote: Where are we at with the vote, or setting up of the votin

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-14 Thread Billy
On Sat, 2006-05-13 at 12:53 +, Billy wrote: On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 12:04 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Billy wrote: Where are we at with the vote, or setting up of the voting page? The poll/voting should be afforded a little time, to give everyone a

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-13 Thread Billy
On Sat, 2006-05-13 at 20:54 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: Billy wrote: > On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 20:46 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: >> bvc wrote: >> > Overall I like the Human icons and it's probably because of the >> > shadows. It actually has a shadow and not some unprofessional round >> >

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-13 Thread Billy
On Sat, 2006-05-13 at 20:54 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: Billy wrote: > On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 20:46 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: >> bvc wrote: >> > Overall I like the Human icons and it's probably because of the >> > shadows. It actually has a shadow and not some unprofessional round >> >

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-13 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Billy wrote: On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 20:46 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: bvc wrote: > Overall I like the Human icons and it's probably because of the > shadows. It actually has a shadow and not some unprofessional round > thing popping out from underneath it, like the svg icons do. For this > r

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-13 Thread Billy
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 12:04 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Billy wrote: Where are we at with the vote, or setting up of the voting page? The poll/voting should be afforded a little time, to give everyone a change to cast a vote. Time also needs to be added for packaging to g

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-13 Thread Billy
Yes, while the level of transparency is mostly just personal preference, I do have a reason for my madness. SVG shadows are very poor right now and you do not want the average user that has a good eye to know this. So I chose to use a more transparent shadow to hide this. It's also better for a

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-13 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hello, Shadow on directory are move visible for Tango. Your executable shadow is excellent. You should not post so large screenshot, it is hard to compare. (good example : http://bersace03.free.fr/pub/captures/dapper-artwork/compare-human-tangerine.png ) Nice work at all. -- Verso l'Alto ! si

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-12 Thread Billy
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 20:46 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: bvc wrote: > Overall I like the Human icons and it's probably because of the > shadows. It actually has a shadow and not some unprofessional round > thing popping out from underneath it, like the svg icons do. For this > reason alon

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-12 Thread Andreas Nilsson
bvc wrote: Overall I like the Human icons and it's probably because of the shadows. It actually has a shadow and not some unprofessional round thing popping out from underneath it, like the svg icons do. For this reason alone, Tango and Tangerine are a mess and makes them distracting and ugly!

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-10 Thread Jean Pierre Rupp
Hello Ubuntu Artwork team, I joined this list in an effort to avoid a few visual mistakes that I think are very important in the overall look-and-feel of the upcoming Dapper Drake. The first of this mistakes is the use of the white desktop icon. I commented on a bug report about it and I'm doing

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-10 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hello, > The Ubuntu Art team exists in Launchpad: > > https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-art > > Please can I ask everyone who wants to participate in the vote to join > that (go to page, click on "Join the team" on the actions menu, top > left of the page). Hey, I like this openness :) Than

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-10 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Billy wrote: Where are we at with the vote, or setting up of the voting page? The poll/voting should be afforded a little time, to give everyone a change to cast a vote. Time also needs to be added for packaging to give to Daniel. I suggest - poll/voting end on Saturday (earliest) or

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-09 Thread Billy
Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi guys TEN DAYS! I'd like to set Monday 15 May 10am UTC as the deadline for a decision from the art team as to: �- two or three "external" themes (from Gnome-Look, for example) �-

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-09 Thread Billy
On Tue, 2006-05-09 Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Unfortunately, I don't believe that Tango has the level of design quality in place that we need for the best theme for Ubuntu. I just don't like the Tango icons. And 22x22 (as well as other decisions) are IMO poor choices.  Tangerine is therefor

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-09 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Tangerine has the advantage of (a) being based on Tango, which starts with SVG's for everything and has design in place, and (b) being developed by folks who work with Gnome and KDE themes regularly so can test it in place. Unfortunately, I don't believe that Tango ha

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-09 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Étienne Bersac wrote: At last ! Thanks for this preview of the development state. I'm happy to see new devices and trash icons and other improvement. Human definitively does not blend with neither Tango nor Tangerine. It's not designed to. It uses its own perspective. It's designed to be

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-09 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hello, > We have struggled to get a good workflow in place between the artist > leading Human and the packaging team. You can see the latest delivery > from the Human folks here: > > http://daniel.holba.ch/ubuntu/iconcall/ At last ! Thanks for this preview of the development state. I'm happy

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-09 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
We have struggled to get a good workflow in place between the artist leading Human and the packaging team.  You can see the latest delivery from the Human folks here:   http://daniel.holba.ch/ubuntu/iconcall/ You will see many icons there that have not yet successfully landed in the release.

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-09 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hello, > P.S.: I'm still not sure if it was a wise decision to get involved, but I'd > hate to see the default Dapper desktop look bad. I feel we still have a > choice now to get things to work out right. That make me sad. The update make the gap between Tangerine and Human obviously larger. I

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-09 Thread Frank Schoep
On Tuesday 09 May 2006 04:05, Étienne Bersac wrote: > Hello, > ... I've been following this discussion for a while and though I was actively trying to avoid it, after today's Dapper artwork update I felt like jumping in. I'm just taking a moment to vent my opinion and thoughts on the matter, wh

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-08 Thread Billy
On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 04:05 +0200, Étienne Bersac wrote: Hello, > > > > Tangerine is a tangoish Human theme that blend very well > > with other Tango icons. > > Well, I don't know what happen there but aren't all three are supposed > to follow the same guidelines an

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-08 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hello, > > > > Tangerine is a tangoish Human theme that blend very well > > with other Tango icons. > > Well, I don't know what happen there but aren't all three are supposed > to follow the same guidelines and palette? Can't imagine otherwise. Obviously does Human *not*

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-08 Thread Billy
�tienne Bersac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, > -Tango was supposed to mix with Human, not the other way around Tangerine is a tangoish Human theme that blend very well with other Tango icons. Well, I don't know

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-08 Thread Petr Tomeš
2006/5/8, Who <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 5/8/06, Étienne Bersac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > Considering the great job done for Tangerine, and the fact that it is > installed by default, we must offer a theme Human theme with > Tangerine. Current human with Tangerine is very nice. That mi

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-08 Thread Who
On 5/8/06, Étienne Bersac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, Considering the great job done for Tangerine, and the fact that it is installed by default, we must offer a theme Human theme with Tangerine. Current human with Tangerine is very nice. That might not be considered as a full other theme.

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-08 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hello, -Tango was supposed to mix with Human, not the other way around Tangerine is a tangoish Human theme that blend very well with other Tango icons. -there's no 22x22, but 24x44 and 16x16. Yes, but since KDE use 22x22, Gnome 24x24 are 22x22 plus one pixel border. While it's best

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-07 Thread bvc
�tienne Bersac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Objectivly, Human icon theme have some important problem : - does not blend with Tang* icons mixed in. - tiny icons are far from readable. icons in 22x22 and below aren't clean, especially those with label such as 'ftp', 'ssh', home, etc. - colours are

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-07 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hello, Considering the great job done for Tangerine, and the fact that it is installed by default, we must offer a theme Human theme with Tangerine. Current human with Tangerine is very nice. That might not be considered as a full other theme. I'm afraid about icons in ubuntu. The first t

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-07 Thread bvc
Jan Claeys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Op za, 06-05-2006 te 19:00 +0100, schreef Mark Shuttleworth:> We'll need a name for the old Human..."Human History" or maybe even just "History" ? :-)-- Jan Claeyshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/DapperThemesThis suggest the Human from Breezy and forgive my

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-07 Thread Lukas Sabota
On Sun, 2006-05-07 at 16:33 -0400, Viper550 wrote: > Jan Claeys wrote: > > Op za, 06-05-2006 te 19:00 +0100, schreef Mark Shuttleworth: > > > > > We'll need a name for the old Human... > > > > > > > "Human History" or maybe even just "History" ? :-) > > > > > > > Human Soilent? I me

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-07 Thread bvc
�tienne Bersac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello,>>> We'll need a name for the old Human...>> "Human History" or maybe even just "History" ? :-)> Human Soilent? I mean, why not just call it Ubuntu Classic?Yes, or Legacy.I like Ubuntu Classic, but I'm horrible with creative names, as we well know :

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-07 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hello, We'll need a name for the old Human... "Human History" or maybe even just "History" ? :-) Human Soilent? I mean, why not just call it Ubuntu Classic? Yes, or Legacy. Étienne. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-07 Thread Viper550
Jan Claeys wrote: Op za, 06-05-2006 te 19:00 +0100, schreef Mark Shuttleworth: We'll need a name for the old Human... "Human History" or maybe even just "History" ? :-) Human Soilent? I mean, why not just call it Ubuntu Classic? Viper550 -- ubuntu-art mailing

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-07 Thread Étienne Bersac
Le 7 mai 06 à 22:02, Jan Claeys a écrit : Op za, 06-05-2006 te 19:00 +0100, schreef Mark Shuttleworth: We'll need a name for the old Human... "Human History" or maybe even just "History" ? :-) Australopithèque ? Homo Erectus ? ;) How do we say "old" in Xhosa ? Étienne.u -- ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-07 Thread Jan Claeys
Op za, 06-05-2006 te 19:00 +0100, schreef Mark Shuttleworth: > We'll need a name for the old Human... "Human History" or maybe even just "History" ? :-) -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-07 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hello, Cool work. For those you make screenshots, that would be great to have virgin dapper desktop with just the theme selected. Étienne. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-06 Thread bvc
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/DapperThemesI have updated the page, but someone needs to redo the themes in the external (community) table. I'm out of time for the weekend.Mikkel, I removed your question under the TangerineIcons because as you noted, it is already an inclusion, so it didn't ne

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-06 Thread bvc
Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Sounds better, but that doesn't solve the internal/external issue. May I suggest; Theme name in Bold (internal)Good idea. When we have the vote, I suggest people vote for their favourite themes overall ignoring internal / external, and w

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-06 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Sounds better, but that doesn't solve the internal/external issue. May I suggest; Theme name in Bold (internal) Good idea. When we have the vote, I suggest people vote for their favourite themes overall ignoring internal / external, and we then make the final selection factoring that in.

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-05 Thread bvc
Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Can I suggest we change the format of the nominations page? It should be like this, with the themes alphabetically sorted: Theme name in Bold � o Screenshot link � o Screenshot link � o Screenshot link � Name of icon theme, metacity t

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-05 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Can I suggest we change the format of the nominations page? It should be like this, with the themes alphabetically sorted: Theme name in Bold   o Screenshot link   o Screenshot link   o Screenshot link   Name of icon theme, metacity theme, widget theme, and wallpaper.   Brief one paragrap

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-05 Thread bvc
Pascal Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 2006-05-05 at 15:03 +0100, Sean Hammond wrote:> I can't get a single one of these suggested themes from gnome-look.org> to install. The Themes dialogue just tells me 'The file format is> invalid' whatever I do. Should these themes be usable on Breezy?

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-05 Thread Pascal Klein
On Fri, 2006-05-05 at 15:03 +0100, Sean Hammond wrote: > I can't get a single one of these suggested themes from gnome-look.org > to install. The Themes dialogue just tells me 'The file format is > invalid' whatever I do. Should these themes be usable on Breezy? Am I > missing something? > > > --

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-05 Thread Sean Hammond
I can't get a single one of these suggested themes from gnome-look.org to install. The Themes dialogue just tells me 'The file format is invalid' whatever I do. Should these themes be usable on Breezy? Am I missing something? On 5/5/06, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2006/5

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-05 Thread Who
On 5/5/06, Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It means the list you see when you go System->Preferences->Theme I'd like to cut that down to six themes, Human and the FIVE described in my mail. I really like the idea of putting a list of nominations on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwor

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-05 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Who wrote: Can I just clear up whether a 'theme' means: * GTK theme, * A combination of a Metacity theme, GTK theme and an icon theme * the above with a whole collection of other artwork? It means the list you see when you go System->Preferences->Theme I'd like to cut that down to

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-05 Thread Who
On 5/5/06, Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi guys TEN DAYS! I'd like to set Monday 15 May 10am UTC as the deadline for a decision from the art team as to: - two or three "external" themes (from Gnome-Look, for example) - two or three "internal" themes (from this team) For

Re: [ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-05 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2006/5/5, Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi guys TEN DAYS! I'd like to set Monday 15 May 10am UTC as the deadline for a decision from the art team as to:  - two or three "external" themes (from Gnome-Look, for example)  - two or three "internal" themes (from this team) For a tot

[ubuntu-art] Deadline for community art: May 15

2006-05-05 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Hi guys TEN DAYS! I'd like to set Monday 15 May 10am UTC as the deadline for a decision from the art team as to:  - two or three "external" themes (from Gnome-Look, for example)  - two or three "internal" themes (from this team) For a total of FIVE themes. It's up to you guys to tell Daniel