On 29/05/08 23:06, Nick Ali wrote:
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Mike Feravolo
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hello:
>>
>> I have been reading this list and the marketing list of another flavor
>> of Linux for a while and would like to make a suggestion.
>>
>> Maybe the current marketing
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Mike Feravolo
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello:
>
> I have been reading this list and the marketing list of another flavor
> of Linux for a while and would like to make a suggestion.
>
> Maybe the current marketing team should be broken up by function:
>
> 1) Amba
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Mike Feravolo
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello:
>
> I have been reading this list and the marketing list of another flavor
> of Linux for a while and would like to make a suggestion.
>
> Maybe the current marketing team should be broken up by function:
>
> 1) Amba
> 1) Ambassadors - People with connections in their local communities that
> could get marketing materials "out there" and let people know about
> Ubuntu.
Yes, but they definitely have to work both way : sending needs from their LoCo
to marketing team, and sending marketing team feedback to their
Hello:
I have been reading this list and the marketing list of another flavor
of Linux for a while and would like to make a suggestion.
Maybe the current marketing team should be broken up by function:
1) Ambassadors - People with connections in their local communities that
could get marketing m
Thanks, Onno
Will set it up later, after some sleep. I have pidgin already installed
for my yahoo im account, so kust have to try the server. Will let you
know how it works out.
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 19:30 +0800, Onno Benschop wrote:
> On 29/05/08 08:06, John Botscharow wrote:
> > I'm on Central
On 29/05/08 19:30, Onno Benschop wrote:
> On 29/05/08 08:06, John Botscharow wrote:
>
>> I'm on Central Daylight Time UTC-5
>>
>> I was afraid someone was going to suggest IRC LOL. I have never used
>> IRC. I do have Pifgin installed - will that work or do I need something
>> else? And how do
On 29/05/08 08:06, John Botscharow wrote:
> I'm on Central Daylight Time UTC-5
>
> I was afraid someone was going to suggest IRC LOL. I have never used
> IRC. I do have Pifgin installed - will that work or do I need something
> else? And how do I set up an IRC account? Do I need a mic or is text
About timezone, I'm from France and leaving in the UK for 2 more weeks. So I'm
GMT +1 till the 10th of June, and GMT+2 after that. Using IRC isn't a
problem.
About the leadership of the team, yes we need to set one up, and we need to do
it fast.
I sadly don't have much time to give to the team
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 8:22 PM, alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think trying to channel too strongly will loose us some benefit.
> Canonical is hoping to make a profit from selling services and support
> - most obviously to the corporate market.
Absolutely, Canonical should be looking at
That'll work. Thanks
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 00:28 -0400, Nick Ali wrote:
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:15 AM, John Botscharow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Onno,
> > As far as putting together a wiki template for press releases, I am
> > certainly willing to take a stab at it, although it might go
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:15 AM, John Botscharow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Onno,
> As far as putting together a wiki template for press releases, I am
> certainly willing to take a stab at it, although it might go slow until
> I get more comfortable with wiki codes. I use very little coding on
Onno,
This is really weird that you bring this up. I had not seen your email
until just a few minutes ago because, things being pretty quiet tonight
on this list, I decided to hunt up my old marketing articles and start
to put them on my wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBotscharow#preview
I jus
I'm on Central Daylight Time UTC-5
I was afraid someone was going to suggest IRC LOL. I have never used
IRC. I do have Pifgin installed - will that work or do I need something
else? And how do I set up an IRC account? Do I need a mic or is text
talking?
Sorry for being such a newbie, but I did
On 29/05/08 02:40, John Vilsack wrote:
> How do you feel about putting about proposing this to the Community
> Council? Is leadership what this group needs above all else?
>
I agree that this needs to happen, but until we have figured out how
we're going to do what we're talking about and how w
Onno Benschop wrote:
> On 28/05/08 10:13, John Botscharow wrote:
>> On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 07:50 +0800, Onno Benschop wrote:
>>
>>> One of the major challenges I had (and still have) - is the visibility
>>> of this particular group of individuals - the Marketing Team.
>>>
>>
>> Would you ela
John Botscharow wrote:
> John V,
>
> Yes, I think leadership IS the biggest issue keeping us from doinng
> anything substabtive, and by leadership I mean more than just people. I
> think your proposal is something that definitely needs done. So, I ovte
> YES!!!
Seconded
alan cocks
>
> On Wed,
John Botscharow wrote:
> Jeez, Cory, that one caught me off guard. I am very flattered by your
> question and very honored. Let me hold off answering that for a day or
> two to give others a chance to express their opinions; but you are
> right. the team does need to set up strong leadership and th
John Vilsack wrote:
> I think we are running in circles.
>
> Gleaning what I can from these messages, This is what I think we should
> consider:
>
> 1. The Local Communities are their own entity, and should be considered free
> to do what they want, with no perceived or implied oversight from any
RJ wrote:
> Sounds the best way to act to me. But still I would put "defining our
> relationship with Canonical's marketing department" at the first place. Since
> that's the point of the long discution we just had : everything that will be
> done here is depending on this relationship. So I'll
VidA wrote:
[...]
> For example : Suppose the loco team and Canonical** are exhibiting at
> the same event/conference, which will be taken seriously, the loco
> team or the Canonical team? Why should there be separate efforts and
> not a team effort ? Keeping Canonical separate from the community
>
John V,
Yes, I think leadership IS the biggest issue keeping us from doinng
anything substabtive, and by leadership I mean more than just people. I
think your proposal is something that definitely needs done. So, I ovte
YES!!!
On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 13:40 -0500, John Vilsack wrote:
> As I mentione
As I mentioned earlier, I am willing to do whatever it takes to get this
project in line. I am a firm believer that we can do this democratically,
but someone has to be given "the ball" to put filter the discussion and
finally provide some forward momentum.
Mr. Botscharow and myself have written
Jeez, Cory, that one caught me off guard. I am very flattered by your
question and very honored. Let me hold off answering that for a day or
two to give others a chance to express their opinions; but you are
right. the team does need to set up strong leadership and that is
something we should do so
On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 07:55 -0400, Mike Feravolo wrote:
> Good Day:
>
> I have been trying to post a comment to this list for a couple of weeks
> and have had my messages bounced back as a "non-member". Wondering how I
> would be able to read the thread and the fact that they were never
> reviewed
John Botscharow wrote:
> The reason, IMHO, that it appears we are running in circles is because
> we are due to the fact that the marketing team has not, as far as I can
> tell, established any real sense of its own identity or its direction.
I'd like to know are you up to leading this new Market
On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 09:44 -0500, John Vilsack wrote:
> I think we are running in circles.
The reason, IMHO, that it appears we are running in circles is because
we are due to the fact that the marketing team has not, as far as I can
tell, established any real sense of its own identity or its di
On 28/05/08 10:13, John Botscharow wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 07:50 +0800, Onno Benschop wrote:
>
>> One of the major challenges I had (and still have) - is the visibility
>> of this particular group of individuals - the Marketing Team.
>>
>
> Would you elaborate on this, please. Perhap
I think we are running in circles.
Gleaning what I can from these messages, This is what I think we should
consider:
1. The Local Communities are their own entity, and should be considered free
to do what they want, with no perceived or implied oversight from any
governing body. This group should
Sounds the best way to act to me. But still I would put "defining our
relationship with Canonical's marketing department" at the first place. Since
that's the point of the long discution we just had : everything that will be
done here is depending on this relationship. So I'll change your questi
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Well, it appears to me, and the information, such as it is, on the
Marketing Team wiki page confirms it, that we need to do the following
things very quickly in order to be effective at marketing:
1. Define who and what we are. This entails defining o
Good Day:
I have been trying to post a comment to this list for a couple of weeks
and have had my messages bounced back as a "non-member". Wondering how I
would be able to read the thread and the fact that they were never
reviewed and posted is an yet another example of what's wrong here.
Who ac
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:34 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I see the marketing of Ubuntu as a Canonical responsibility. Anything
> "community" lead I see as D.I.Y./street team work. Just me.
>
> If I had my way, I'd reinvent the team as Ubuntu-StreetTeam or something.
I have to disagree
> I see the marketing of Ubuntu as a Canonical responsibility. Anything
> "community" lead I see as D.I.Y./street team work. Just me.
>
> If I had my way, I'd reinvent the team as Ubuntu-StreetTeam or something.
Hi,
I can't agree with Cory here. The community-based-marketing-team or whatever
yo
John Botscharow wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-05-27 at 21:55 -0400, Cory K. wrote:
>
>> Nick Ali wrote:
>>
>>> The problem with this is that people start expecting things from
>>> Canonical. Why doesn't Canonical do this, why don't they do that. Its
>>> already evident in this thread. We should def
On Tue, 2008-05-27 at 21:55 -0400, Cory K. wrote:
> Nick Ali wrote:
> > The problem with this is that people start expecting things from
> > Canonical. Why doesn't Canonical do this, why don't they do that. Its
> > already evident in this thread. We should definitely work with
> > Canonical coordin
On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 07:50 +0800, Onno Benschop wrote:
>
> One of the major challenges I had (and still have) - is the visibility
> of this particular group of individuals - the Marketing Team.
Would you elaborate on this, please. Perhaps your response may shed some
light on what we need to be
Nick Ali wrote:
> The problem with this is that people start expecting things from
> Canonical. Why doesn't Canonical do this, why don't they do that. Its
> already evident in this thread. We should definitely work with
> Canonical coordinating events. But expecting Canonical to hire someone
> to h
On 28/05/08 07:18, John Botscharow wrote:
>> I also suggest a name change since this "marketing team" is confusing
>> since it has no real ties to the Canonical marketing dept. Maybe "Ubuntu
>> DIY Promotion team"?
>>
>> -Cory K.
>>
>
> OR we could leave the name and change the lack of ties to
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 7:18 PM, John Botscharow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-05-27 at 18:50 -0400, Cory K. wrote:
>> John Vilsack wrote:
>> This is kinda what was talked about at UDS. A team made up of people in
>> each LOCO (local level) who want to promote Ubuntu. Along with ties to
On Tue, 2008-05-27 at 18:50 -0400, Cory K. wrote:
> John Vilsack wrote:
> > This is the niche I believe a Marketing Team has to fill. Autonomy
> > should exist at the local level, but if someone new wants to start or
> > gain access to a local chapter, then the Marketing Team should be
> > there t
John Vilsack wrote:
> This is the niche I believe a Marketing Team has to fill. Autonomy
> should exist at the local level, but if someone new wants to start or
> gain access to a local chapter, then the Marketing Team should be
> there to fill the niche with information and kits about how to get
John Botscharow wrote:
> John V.,
>
> What a perfect segue to something I wanted to propose, but was waiting
> to see if more members of the group chime in:
>
> My talents and experience are not in the programming area. far from it!
> I am a writer and a blogger. So, the other day, when Ronnie Tu
John V.,
What a perfect segue to something I wanted to propose, but was waiting
to see if more members of the group chime in:
My talents and experience are not in the programming area. far from it!
I am a writer and a blogger. So, the other day, when Ronnie Tucker of
FCM came on with the draft of
On Tue, 2008-05-27 at 18:49 +0100, alan c wrote:
Restrain the oCo??? Heaven forbid If anything, I would like to see
them empowered much much more :-)
> RJ wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I'm quite new in ubuntu-marketing list but I'd like to get my two pennies
> > worth feeling in. If I'm o
> I would draw attention to the nature of much of the marketing creative
> and effort resource - it certainly has a central objective. Canonical
> and the wider set of volunteers have strongly overlapping objectives.
> However, the factors of geographical location, local culture and
> circumstances
RJ wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm quite new in ubuntu-marketing list but I'd like to get my two pennies
> worth feeling in. If I'm of topic or redundant, just slap me and forget. If
> you find my english awful, just know I'm French and English isn't my native
> language.
>
> I'm the CEO of an adve
On Tuesday 20 May 2008 21:02:14 Cody A.W. Somerville wrote:
> Hello Marketing Team Members and Interested Parties,
>
> I'd like to report on the session we had here at UDS regarding Ubuntu
> Marketing so that we can get a wider audience and allow everyone a fair
> chance to share their ideas, poin
Cody A.W. Somerville wrote:
> Hello Marketing Team Members and Interested Parties,
>
> I'd like to report on the session we had here at UDS regarding Ubuntu
> Marketing so that we can get a wider audience and allow everyone a fair
> chance to share their ideas, point of view, or prospective solut
>
> I'd like to report on the session we had here at UDS regarding Ubuntu
> Marketing so that we can get a wider audience and allow everyone a fair
> chance to share their ideas, point of view, or prospective solution on the
> undeniable reality that the way the current marketing team is setup sim
>
> Another idea put forth was seeing Canonical hire someone to lead the
> marketing team while maintaining a model similar to the one existing.
> Marketing is a huge job and it is completely understandable why there is no
> one to step forward and why previous teams leaders have either burnt out
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 3:02 AM, Cody A.W. Somerville
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Another idea put forth was seeing Canonical hire someone to lead the
> marketing team while maintaining a model similar to the one existing.
> Marketing is a huge job and it is completely understandable why there
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 1:27 AM, Corey Burger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is the code for spreadubuntu floating around somewhere? The
> SpreadUbuntu wiki page has gone missing at some point.
https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu
Is the latest I can find, but I mi
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Cody A.W. Somerville
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 4:40 AM, Justin M. Wray
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Just to throw in support for the idea, having a dedicated site would do
>> wonders for content sharing. Something like a mix of
u'll just be beating a dead horse).
Thanks!
>
>
> +1
>
> Thanks,
> Justin M. Wray
>
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Corey Burger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 22:25:50
> To
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To:"Ubuntu Marketing"
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-marketing] The future of the Marketing Team
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Cody A.W. Somerville
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 4:25 AM, Corey Burger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Cody A.W. Somerville
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello Marketing Team Members and Interested Parties,
> >
> > I'd like to report on the session we had here at UDS regarding Ubuntu
> >
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Cody A.W. Somerville
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Marketing Team Members and Interested Parties,
>
> I'd like to report on the session we had here at UDS regarding Ubuntu
> Marketing so that we can get a wider audience and allow everyone a fair
> chance to s
Hello Marketing Team Members and Interested Parties,
I'd like to report on the session we had here at UDS regarding Ubuntu
Marketing so that we can get a wider audience and allow everyone a fair
chance to share their ideas, point of view, or prospective solution on the
undeniable reality that the
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