Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-05 Thread Mark Einon
On 5 February 2013 20:15, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > > It worked! Yay! \o/ >Now, we need some way of directing people away from all the > erroneous Ubuntu Forums pages that also say [SOLVED] but don't work, like > the one I followed, which was: > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1850267

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-05 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 05/02/13 19:29, Mark Einon wrote: Ok, looks like the same issue, in that the kernel isn't quite recent enough to support this device. I'd suggest giving the instructions in the link I posted earlier a go. It may need to be patched to work, if so, It's not a biggie - let me know if it doesn't

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-05 Thread Mark Einon
On 5 February 2013 17:47, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Here we are. I can see what I did wrong: I screwed up r8169, which is the > Ethernet driver, thinking it was maybe a rival wireless driver. Definitely > my bad. > > uname -a > linuc rowan-Compaq 3.5.0-23-generic #35-Ubuntu SMP [date &

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-05 Thread Rowan Berkeley
Hi Mark, Here we are. I can see what I did wrong: I screwed up r8169, which is the Ethernet driver, thinking it was maybe a rival wireless driver. Definitely my bad. uname -a linuc rowan-Compaq 3.5.0-23-generic #35-Ubuntu SMP [date & time] sudo lshw -C network *-network description: Ethernet

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-05 Thread Mark Einon
On 5 February 2013 13:36, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > On 05/02/13 12:49, Rowan Berkeley wrote: >> >> >> I've given the machine a complete 12.10 reinstall from the USB stick, so >> as to start again without the ill effects of whatever I did previously, >> fixing which could have gone on forever. In a m

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-05 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 05/02/13 12:49, Rowan Berkeley wrote: I've given the machine a complete 12.10 reinstall from the USB stick, so as to start again without the ill effects of whatever I did previously, fixing which could have gone on forever. In a minute I shall be able to see what I've got and what I've not.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-05 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 05/02/13 11:55, Rowan Berkeley wrote: No, the machine is running 12.10, but I downgraded the kernel to 3.5.0-22 because I broke 3.5.0-23's Ethernet interface somehow with my tinkering. So, before proceeding with your suggestion, I decided to reinstall 3.5.0-23 and see if it worked. And when I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-05 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 05/02/13 11:32, Mark Einon wrote: It appears that the chip you have is quite new, and is only supported for newer kernels - for some reason I had it in my head that the laptop was quite old. As you have a 2.5.0 kernel, I assume you're on 12.04 - so I think this may help, short of compiling a n

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-05 Thread Mark Einon
On 5 February 2013 10:51, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > I think the double dash in --nn is wrong, should be a single dash. Yep, sorry about that - my bad. > -nn Show both textual and numeric ID's (names and numbers) > lspci -nn > 04.00.0 Network controller [0280]: Ralink corp. RT3290 > Wireless 802.11

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-05 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 05/02/13 09:48, Mark Einon wrote: On 5 February 2013 08:58, Rowan Berkeley wrote: Hi, Mark. Thanks for the thoughts. ~/pcilist.text: No such file or directory Ah, ok. Not sure what when on there - perhaps you could just try 'lspci --nn' and copy the printout the way you know works? The P

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-05 Thread Mark Einon
On 5 February 2013 08:58, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > On 04/02/13 23:03, Mark Einon wrote: >> >> >> Ok. So the device doesn't have a driver loaded, so it is a kernel >> issue... It knows it's a ralink device (PCI vendor ID 0x1814) but >> doesn't know what the device ID is. Can you please run, to find

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-05 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 04/02/13 23:03, Mark Einon wrote: Ok. So the device doesn't have a driver loaded, so it is a kernel issue... It knows it's a ralink device (PCI vendor ID 0x1814) but doesn't know what the device ID is. Can you please run, to find out what this ID is: $> lspci --nn > ~/pcilist.txt and copy t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-04 Thread Mark Einon
On 4 February 2013 17:03, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > Now I have the huge print-out from the terminal which was requested, having > somehow managed to copy it from the terminal, paste it into a notepad file, > copy that to the external hard drive, then from there to the Lenovo, which > is what I'm usi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-04 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 04/02/13 16:43, Mark Einon wrote: The command 'rfkill list' should tell you which rf kill switches are available, and what their state is. 0: hp wifi: Wireless LAN hard blocked: no soft blocked: no 1: hp-bluetooth: Bluetooth hard blocked: no soft blocked: no Now I have the huge print-out

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-04 Thread Colin Law
On 4 February 2013 16:38, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > On 04/02/13 15:59, Colin Law wrote: >> >> On 4 February 2013 15:48, Rowan Berkeley wrote: >>> >>> >>> Now it has Ubuntu installed, it simply won't boot from >>> the USB stick, no matter how much I juggle the boot order around. Don't >>> ask >>> me

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-04 Thread Mark Einon
On 4 February 2013 16:38, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > On 04/02/13 15:59, Colin Law wrote: >> >> On 4 February 2013 15:48, Rowan Berkeley wrote: >>> >>> >>> Now it has Ubuntu installed, it simply won't boot from >>> the USB stick, no matter how much I juggle the boot order around. Don't >>> ask >>> me

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-04 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 04/02/13 15:59, Colin Law wrote: On 4 February 2013 15:48, Rowan Berkeley wrote: Now it has Ubuntu installed, it simply won't boot from the USB stick, no matter how much I juggle the boot order around. Don't ask me why, it just won't. What you have installed on the disk will not affect wh

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-04 Thread Colin Law
On 4 February 2013 15:48, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > On 04/02/13 15:22, Colin Law wrote: >> >> >> I suggested (I think) some time back in a different thread that you >> try booting from the live CD/USB and confirm that the wireless is not >> found in that case, but I don't think you replied. See wha

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-04 Thread Mark Einon
On 4 February 2013 14:42, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > On 04/02/13 14:31, Mark Einon wrote: >> >> I'm really surprised that this driver is not supported in your kernel >> - what version do you have? (run '$> uname -a' on the command line to >> find out). >> >> I think it's been in since 3.0, and availa

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-04 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 04/02/13 15:22, Colin Law wrote: I suggested (I think) some time back in a different thread that you try booting from the live CD/USB and confirm that the wireless is not found in that case, but I don't think you replied. See what sudo lshw -C network says about the wireless network when liv

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-04 Thread Colin Law
On 4 February 2013 14:42, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > On 04/02/13 14:31, Mark Einon wrote: >> >> I'm really surprised that this driver is not supported in your kernel >> - what version do you have? (run '$> uname -a' on the command line to >> find out). >> >> I think it's been in since 3.0, and availa

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-04 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 04/02/13 14:31, Mark Einon wrote: I'm really surprised that this driver is not supported in your kernel - what version do you have? (run '$> uname -a' on the command line to find out). I think it's been in since 3.0, and available with compat-wireless from 2.6.30. The rt2860.bin file is also

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-04 Thread Mark Einon
On 4 February 2013 13:41, Alan Pope wrote: > On 04/02/13 13:21, Rowan Berkeley wrote: >> >> I already in effect tried that; when I ran the command 'unzip' on it, >> the machine renamed it "sp58586.exe.ZIP" and looked at it and said "gar >> nicht," or words to that effect. >> > > I grabbed the same

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-04 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 04/02/13 13:41, Alan Pope wrote: > On 04/02/13 13:21, Rowan Berkeley wrote: >> I already in effect tried that; when I ran the command 'unzip' on it, >> the machine renamed it "sp58586.exe.ZIP" and looked at it and said >> "gar nicht," or words to that effect. > > I grabbed the same file and i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-04 Thread Alan Pope
On 04/02/13 13:21, Rowan Berkeley wrote: I already in effect tried that; when I ran the command 'unzip' on it, the machine renamed it "sp58586.exe.ZIP" and looked at it and said "gar nicht," or words to that effect. I grabbed the same file and indeed it's a windows executable and not a zip or

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-04 Thread Bruno Girin
On 04/02/13 13:21, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > On 04/02/13 13:14, Kris Douglas wrote: >> >> What he meant was that there may be zip data inside. Rename the file >> yo something.zip and see if it opens in your Archive viewer. >> >> Ahem. OK. But anyway, to return to my original point and Alan's >> respo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-04 Thread Elfy
On 04/02/13 13:14, Kris Douglas wrote: What he meant was that there may be zip data inside. Rename the file yo something.zip and see if it opens in your Archive viewer You should be able to right click the thing and open with option should be archive manager -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.co

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-04 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 04/02/13 13:14, Kris Douglas wrote: What he meant was that there may be zip data inside. Rename the file yo something.zip and see if it opens in your Archive viewer. Ahem. OK. But anyway, to return to my original point and Alan's response to it, there's nothing to unzip. I already in ef

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-04 Thread Kris Douglas
What he meant was that there may be zip data inside. Rename the file yo something.zip and see if it opens in your Archive viewer. On 4 Feb 2013 12:36, "Rowan Berkeley" wrote: > On 04/02/13 12:07, Colin Law wrote: > >> On 4 February 2013 12:01, Rowan Berkeley >> wrote: >> >>> On 04/02/13 11:46, C

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-04 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 04/02/13 12:07, Colin Law wrote: On 4 February 2013 12:01, Rowan Berkeley wrote: On 04/02/13 11:46, Colin Law wrote: On 4 February 2013 11:40, Rowan Berkeley wrote: Unfortunately, it seems that you can have a package sitting in plain view on the desktop but the terminal will keep telling

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-04 Thread Colin Law
On 4 February 2013 12:01, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > On 04/02/13 11:46, Colin Law wrote: >> >> On 4 February 2013 11:40, Rowan Berkeley wrote: >>> >>> Unfortunately, it seems that you can >>> have a package sitting in plain view on the desktop but the terminal will >>> keep telling you "no such file

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-04 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 04/02/13 11:46, Colin Law wrote: On 4 February 2013 11:40, Rowan Berkeley wrote: Unfortunately, it seems that you can have a package sitting in plain view on the desktop but the terminal will keep telling you "no such file or package." This rather stops me in my tracks. Show us the command

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-04 Thread Pete
Have you thought about trying Lauchpad or Bugzilla? I had problems with my HP3070a Printer/Scanner and it was fixed after I posted my problem in Launchpad. I was given this link; http://www.hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/ind

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-04 Thread Colin Law
On 4 February 2013 11:40, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > On 04/02/13 08:38, Alan Pope wrote: >> >> On 04/02/13 04:03, Rowan Berkeley wrote: >>> >>> In my unending search for ways to implement the wireless driver on my >>> converted Compaq machine, I have found the recommended driver on HP's >>> website,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-04 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 04/02/13 08:38, Alan Pope wrote: On 04/02/13 04:03, Rowan Berkeley wrote: In my unending search for ways to implement the wireless driver on my converted Compaq machine, I have found the recommended driver on HP's website, and it comes in an MS-DOS .exe package which ndiswrapper cannot use be

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-04 Thread Alan Pope
On 04/02/13 04:03, Rowan Berkeley wrote: In my unending search for ways to implement the wireless driver on my converted Compaq machine, I have found the recommended driver on HP's website, and it comes in an MS-DOS .exe package which ndiswrapper cannot use because the latter needs to access cert

[ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

2013-02-03 Thread Rowan Berkeley
In my unending search for ways to implement the wireless driver on my converted Compaq machine, I have found the recommended driver on HP's website, and it comes in an MS-DOS .exe package which ndiswrapper cannot use because the latter needs to access certain component files in the package. -