On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 08:38 +, Alan Pope wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 02:38:11PM +, baza wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 14:30 +, alan c wrote:
> > > London School of Puppetry wrote:
> > > > Hi Jonathan, I agree but I think the problem is wider than just us
> > > > isn't
> > > >
Alan Pope wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 02:38:11PM +, baza wrote:
>> On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 14:30 +, alan c wrote:
>> > London School of Puppetry wrote:
>> > > Hi Jonathan, I agree but I think the problem is wider than just us isn't
>> > > itI'm concerned that non-groupy typeslik
On 29/01/07, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 21:15 +, London School of Puppetry wrote:
> In our area, there are at least two experts who travel around the area
> giving help, installing repairing etc on the spot face to face- there
> are many computer literate elde
On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 08:38 +, Alan Pope wrote:
> > The best advice anyone can give, IMHO, is to burn your 'home' directory
> > to CD or DVD every month, that way if you system does the big firework
> > you can reinstall and keep (most) of you data.
> >
>
> Heh, that might not be quite so ea
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 02:38:11PM +, baza wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 14:30 +, alan c wrote:
> > London School of Puppetry wrote:
> > > Hi Jonathan, I agree but I think the problem is wider than just us isn't
> > > itI'm concerned that non-groupy typeslike most of the ordinary
On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 14:30 +, alan c wrote:
> London School of Puppetry wrote:
> > Hi Jonathan, I agree but I think the problem is wider than just us isn't
> > itI'm concerned that non-groupy typeslike most of the ordinary
> > world should be able to access Ubuntu and other OSS
> > a
London School of Puppetry wrote:
> Hi Jonathan, I agree but I think the problem is wider than just us isn't
> itI'm concerned that non-groupy typeslike most of the ordinary
> world should be able to access Ubuntu and other OSS
> and know that there is exactly the same expert support avail
On 30/01/07, Nicholas Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Adding my tuppence plus vat to this conversation.
Should there be a list ?
I think a list somewhere on the wiki and related to the already
established LUG list ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/UKLugMembers )
which details people who are w
On 29/01/07, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 22:20 +, Jonathan Roberts wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I haven't been following the list too closely lately but I've just a
> quick look through some of the comments about this subject. I hope
> this hasn't already been said but
Adding my tuppence plus vat to this conversation.
Should there be a list ?
I think a list somewhere on the wiki and related to the already
established LUG list ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/UKLugMembers )
which details people who are willing to be contacted to provide help and
assistance on
On 29/01/07, London School of Puppetry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think people should be paid..it is always possible not to charge if
> you can tell it would be difficult.
> But you all have to eat.I wonder if charging for this kind of support
> flies in the face of OSS being free as a
London School of Puppetry wrote:
> I think people should be paid..it is always possible not to charge
> if you can tell it would be difficult.
> But you all have to eat.I wonder if charging for this kind of
> support flies in the face of OSS being free as a kind of principle?Caroline
>
T
I think people should be paid..it is always possible not to charge if
you can tell it would be difficult.
But you all have to eat.I wonder if charging for this kind of support
flies in the face of OSS being free as a kind of principle?Caroline
On 29/01/07, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr
Sounds ok £30.00 an hour- but that hour could be quite a long hour if you
have to travel for another hour to get to the customer. Caroline
On 29/01/07, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 21:15 +, London School of Puppetry wrote:
> In our area, there are at least two
Hi Jonathan, I agree but I think the problem is wider than just us isn't
itI'm concerned that non-groupy typeslike most of the ordinary world
should be able to access Ubuntu and other OSS
and know that there is exactly the same expert support available as there is
for Windows etc. Caroline
Alan Pope wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 21:15 +, London School of Puppetry wrote:
>
>> In our area, there are at least two experts who travel around the area
>> giving help, installing repairing etc on the spot face to face- there
>> are many computer literate elderly who benefit enormously
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 22:20 +, Jonathan Roberts wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I haven't been following the list too closely lately but I've just a
> quick look through some of the comments about this subject. I hope
> this hasn't already been said but I'd suggest people join their local
> LUG!
I comp
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 21:15 +, London School of Puppetry wrote:
> In our area, there are at least two experts who travel around the area
> giving help, installing repairing etc on the spot face to face- there
> are many computer literate elderly who benefit enormously from this
> service (Windo
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 20:57 +, Robin Menneer wrote:
> Ok then, you have to earn a living. What about the retireds doing it
> on flexitime ? Some protection would have to be provided against the
> no-hopers, who might just have to be told this, whether they liked it
> or not.
The retireds are
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 21:19 +, London School of Puppetry wrote:
> I understand exactly what you are saying. But no-one would expect
> anything for nothing. If my neighbour is paying for a local Windows
> chap to do an hour's work sorting her crashing computer out then
> surely there has to be
Hi all,
I haven't been following the list too closely lately but I've just a
quick look through some of the comments about this subject. I hope
this hasn't already been said but I'd suggest people join their local
LUG! I've found the people in mine to be very helpful and are quite
willing to come
I have just had areply to my email- one of the links someone sent. A
company in Leeds, say they are experts in Windows and Linux and cover my
area- they charge £70 for the first callout hour then £40 per hour
afterwards. Company is called Problem Solved. Caroline
> > What I had in mind was m
Yorkshire is so big...have checked my local LUG and there is nothing nearer
than York...but I'll keep an eye on the list thanks.I think that is an
excellent idea. However for the local elderly- they still would expect the
same kind of service that you get with Windows. Caroline
On 29/01/07,
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 20:23 +, Alan Pope wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 19:33 +, Matthew East wrote:
> > What I had in mind was more something by way of freely available
> > community support.
>
> I always find that a little tricky.
>
> For me (whether right or wrong) I like to choose how
Dear Leon, We tried- but I am not savvy enough- though I aim to be! The
problem is sorted now -seemed to be something to do with not shutting the
computer down properly..But that is not the point- I think the general
public need face to face help when threatened with a black and white screen
s
Yes Robin- Great idea? Are you one of them? Anyone in North Yorks?
Caroline
On 29/01/07, Robin Menneer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ok then, you have to earn a living. What about the retireds doing it on
flexitime ? Some protection would have to be provided against the
no-hopers, who might ju
/me could do this kind of thing for teh venezuela fund :)
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 21:19 +, London School of Puppetry wrote:
> I understand exactly what you are saying. But no-one would expect
> anything for nothing. If my neighbour is paying for a local Windows
> chap to do an hour's work sorti
Very aptly described.
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 20:23 +, Alan Pope wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 19:33 +, Matthew East wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 17:45 +, Alan Pope wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 14:54 +0100, Matthew East wrote:
> > > > On Mon, January 29, 2007 1:10 am, London S
I understand exactly what you are saying. But no-one would expect anything
for nothing. If my neighbour is paying for a local Windows chap to do an
hour's work sorting her crashing computer out then surely there has to be
the equivalent Ubuntu person? Her chap goes from appointment to appointment
In our area, there are at least two experts who travel around the area
giving help, installing repairing etc on the spot face to face- there are
many computer literate elderly who benefit enormously from this service
(Windows only)- pay is roughly £30.00 per hour. These 'experts' come with
no qua
Ok then, you have to earn a living. What about the retireds doing it on
flexitime ? Some protection would have to be provided against the
no-hopers, who might just have to be told this, whether they liked it or
not.
On 1/29/07, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 19:33
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 19:33 +, Matthew East wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 17:45 +, Alan Pope wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 14:54 +0100, Matthew East wrote:
> > > On Mon, January 29, 2007 1:10 am, London School of Puppetry wrote:
> > > > is there a list somewhere of Ubuntu experts
> > >
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 17:45 +, Alan Pope wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 14:54 +0100, Matthew East wrote:
> > On Mon, January 29, 2007 1:10 am, London School of Puppetry wrote:
> > > is there a list somewhere of Ubuntu experts
> >
> > There isn't such a list for the UK. However, developing one
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 14:54 +0100, Matthew East wrote:
> On Mon, January 29, 2007 1:10 am, London School of Puppetry wrote:
> > is there a list somewhere of Ubuntu experts
>
> There isn't such a list for the UK. However, developing one would be a
> very worthwhile task for this team to carry out -
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Robin Menneer wrote:
> Neil
> I agree with all you say and following from your direction, I see that
> from the map there are eleven LUG people in West Cornwall which need
> looking at for help. Yes, I know that there is nothing to beat sitting
> toge
Neil
I agree with all you say and following from your direction, I see that from
the map there are eleven LUG people in West Cornwall which need looking at
for help. Yes, I know that there is nothing to beat sitting together at the
machine but what I am looking for is a sort of informal but real
On 29/01/07, Robin Menneer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Caroline
> Sorry for your troubles. Just looked up LUG for West Cornwall only to find
> that there is no active group in Devon, let alone Cornwall, let alone West
> Cornwall. If all these experts really want Ubuntu to take off, they must
> r
On Mon, January 29, 2007 1:10 am, London School of Puppetry wrote:
> is there a list somewhere of Ubuntu experts
There isn't such a list for the UK. However, developing one would be a
very worthwhile task for this team to carry out - face to face help is a
very important type of help which is muc
Caroline
Sorry for your troubles. Just looked up LUG for West Cornwall only to find
that there is no active group in Devon, let alone Cornwall, let alone West
Cornwall. If all these experts really want Ubuntu to take off, they must
realise that ivory towers exist in all walks of life. Location
Caroline,
As the lugmaster for Wolverhampton I recommend locating a local Lug.
A Linux User Group is just a bunch of people who get together and talk
about linux/life/and more important to you are a wealth of knowledge.
There is more than likely someone living relatively local to you who
could pin
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Phil Bull wrote:
> Hi Caroline,
>
> On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 00:10 +, London School of Puppetry wrote:
>> Was having a chat with a neighbour the other dayshe said that she
>> has a local chap who comes from a nearby town to see to her computer
>>
Hi Caroline,
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 00:10 +, London School of Puppetry wrote:
> Was having a chat with a neighbour the other dayshe said that she
> has a local chap who comes from a nearby town to see to her computer
> which is running windows- she pays him £30 per hour. She said she
> wou
For this problem, I believe the computer wouldn't even boot, so no.
On 29/01/07, Leon Barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 29/01/07, baza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 00:10 +, London School of Puppetry wrote:
> > Was having a chat with a neighbour the other dayshe
On 29/01/07, baza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 00:10 +, London School of Puppetry wrote:
> > Was having a chat with a neighbour the other dayshe said that she
> > has a local chap who comes from a nearby town to see to her computer
> > which is running windows- she pay
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 00:10 +, London School of Puppetry wrote:
> Was having a chat with a neighbour the other dayshe said that she
> has a local chap who comes from a nearby town to see to her computer
> which is running windows- she pays him £30 per hour. She said she
> wouldn't want to
Was having a chat with a neighbour the other dayshe said that she has a
local chap who comes from a nearby town to see to her computer which is
running windows- she pays him £30 per hour. She said she wouldn't want to
change her system because how would she know how to get help for Linux?
Wel
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