Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Pre installed - HP 'standard images' 'may not work' WTF

2015-06-08 Thread alan c
On 07/06/15 10:53, alan c wrote: On 07/06/15 10:50, alan c wrote: I was very interested in the HP laptops on EBuyer - Ubuntu pre installed. '..HP ProBook 455 Notebook PC is powered by an AMD A10-7300 APU with AMD Radeonâ„¢ R6 Graphics. ..'

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Pre installed - HP 'standard images' 'may not work' WTF

2015-06-07 Thread alan c
On 07/06/15 11:23, Colin Law wrote: On 7 June 2015 at 10:50, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: I was very interested in the HP laptops on EBuyer - Ubuntu pre installed. '..HP ProBook 455 Notebook PC is powered by an AMD A10-7300 APU with AMD Radeonâ„¢ R6 Graphics. ..'

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Pre installed - HP 'standard images' 'may not work' WTF

2015-06-07 Thread alan c
On 07/06/15 18:35, Simon Greenwood wrote: It's probably more about the training that HP's support teams have been given. Until very recently the support cycle of most PCs would assume that they had the same OS throughout their lifespan because few people even upgrade the version of Windows they

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Pre installed - HP 'standard images' 'may not work' WTF

2015-06-07 Thread Simon Greenwood
It's probably more about the training that HP's support teams have been given. Until very recently the support cycle of most PCs would assume that they had the same OS throughout their lifespan because few people even upgrade the version of Windows they use, so to allow the people on the phones to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Pre installed - HP 'standard images' 'may not work' WTF

2015-06-07 Thread Colin Law
On 7 June 2015 at 10:50, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: I was very interested in the HP laptops on EBuyer - Ubuntu pre installed. '..HP ProBook 455 Notebook PC is powered by an AMD A10-7300 APU with AMD Radeon™ R6 Graphics. ..'

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Pre installed - HP 'standard images' 'may not work' WTF

2015-06-07 Thread alan c
On 07/06/15 10:50, alan c wrote: I was very interested in the HP laptops on EBuyer - Ubuntu pre installed. '..HP ProBook 455 Notebook PC is powered by an AMD A10-7300 APU with AMD Radeonâ„¢ R6 Graphics. ..' http://www.ebuyer.com/705955-hp-455-quad-core-laptop-l8b56es then I came across the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed

2011-08-08 Thread Chris Rowson
Hi there .  Last week at the local LUG meet, I was talking to a guy who told me about Cougar Extreme: http://www.cougar-extreme.co.uk/ who sell barebones computers.  I have been talking to Patrick at Cougar, who tells me they are quite willing to supply pre-installed and to test with

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed

2011-08-08 Thread Barry Drake
On Mon, 2011-08-08 at 12:34 +0100, Chris Rowson wrote: I wonder if it would be possible for Cougar to create a page on their website advertising Ubuntu PCs? I couldn't see one when I looked, but if Cougar could do that, I'm sure it would help them lots more exposure within the Ubuntu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed

2011-08-08 Thread Sean Miller
On 8 August 2011 13:38, Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org wrote: Patrick who said they would be delighted to supply pre-installed. I guess they don't want to advertise so that folk come to them and then need support with the OS. Not sure that qualifies them to be linked to, does it? The

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed

2011-08-08 Thread Sean Miller
On 8 August 2011 13:59, Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net wrote: Not impressed, and I'm going to fire off an e-mail to them to tell them so. I've asked them... their attitude sounds really bad, to be honest... significantly worse than the PCWorld guy with the memory sticks that did seem a breath

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed

2011-08-08 Thread alan c
On 08/08/11 13:38, Barry Drake wrote: On Mon, 2011-08-08 at 12:34 +0100, Chris Rowson wrote: I wonder if it would be possible for Cougar to create a page on their website advertising Ubuntu PCs? I couldn't see one when I looked, but if Cougar could do that, I'm sure it would help them lots

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed

2011-08-08 Thread Barry Drake
On Mon, 2011-08-08 at 17:11 +0100, alan c wrote: They might also be fearful of adverse consequences with their presumed discount for MS OS's? I don't think so. I talked this through thoroughly with pcspecialist. It was all down to a question of full support. They tried selling a range of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed

2011-08-08 Thread Barry Titterton
On Mon, 2011-08-08 at 18:13 +0100, Barry Drake wrote: They tried selling a range of equipment with Ubuntu pre-installed, and found that currently, they were not up to giving Ubuntu OS support. A manufacturer is legally obliged to give proper support, and this applies to Cougar, so I fully

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed ....

2010-12-30 Thread bodsda
I don't know them, but I do live in Andover, so I might pop in. Cheers, Bodsda Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org Sender: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 15:08:30 To: UK Ubuntu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-27 Thread Eddie Bernard
2009/3/25 Matt Jones m...@mattjones.me.uk: In the past, that opinion was fairly valid. Now, the celerons are actually quite speedy little chips, espescially for an Ubuntu box that is going to run web/openoffice/music all day. As for recommending a Via over the current (Dual core) celerons,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-27 Thread alan c
Eddie Bernard wrote: 2009/3/25 Matt Jones m...@mattjones.me.uk: In the past, that opinion was fairly valid. Now, the celerons are actually quite speedy little chips, espescially for an Ubuntu box that is going to run web/openoffice/music all day. As for recommending a Via over the current

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-26 Thread Alan Bell
Eddie Bernard wrote: Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: Surely for the average user a LTS version would be better, such as 8.04? Development versions and upgrades could raise severe antagonisms to you. Fair cop, glad you pointed that out. I need to curb my enthusiasm for always wanting to be

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-26 Thread Sean Miller
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Alan Bell alan.b...@theopenlearningcentre.com wrote: to offer a contrary view I would always go for the latest released version fully updated. The customer is likely to update it anyway, or think they are not getting the newest and shinyest operating system

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-26 Thread Dave Morley
On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 07:45 +, Sean Miller wrote: On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Alan Bell alan.b...@theopenlearningcentre.com wrote: to offer a contrary view I would always go for the latest released version fully updated. The customer is likely to update it anyway, or think they

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-26 Thread Rob Beard
Liam Proven wrote: 2009/3/25 Eddie Bernard edd...@gmail.com: I'm looking to offer a base unit, 2GHz dual core Celeron (E1400) with 2GB DDR2 PC2-6400 RAM, and a 150GB SATA hdd. Graphics, sound and ethernet are onboard. My only comment - apart from to agree with those who commend

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-26 Thread Eddie Bernard
2009/3/26 Dave Morley davm...@davmor2.co.uk: Looking at the hardware, you're looking at about 110-130 plus 20 for national delivery plus a bit for you so lets say 180 a unit-ish. You're in the area I'm looking at... but my raw costs are higher than 130, and I thought I'd sourced everything

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-26 Thread Rob Beard
Liam Proven wrote: 2009/3/25 Matt Jones m...@mattjones.me.uk: In the past, that opinion was fairly valid. Now, the celerons are actually quite speedy little chips, espescially for an Ubuntu box that is going to run web/openoffice/music all day. As for recommending a Via over the current

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-26 Thread alan c
Eddie Bernard wrote: 2009/3/25 Jamie Bennett ja...@linuxuk.org: Steve Cook wrote: Here's your competition http://efficientpc.co.uk/ The Wraith, same system with 2gb of ram - £232.61. Nice looking little system there. Great - I can definitely beat that and by some way. I can't tell

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-26 Thread mike daniels
--- On Thu, 26/3/09, Eddie Bernard edd...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eddie Bernard edd...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices To: British Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Thursday, 26 March, 2009, 9:52 AM 2009/3/26 Dave Morley davm...@davmor2.co.uk

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Tim Powys-Lybbe
Eddie Bernard edd...@gmail.com wrote: Good morning everyone First off, a declaration of interest, I'm in business selling desktop PCs. However, to avoid accusations of spamming, I won't give further details (unless you actually want them!) My reason for contacting you all is a sort of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Rob Beard
On 25/03/2009 10:05, Eddie Bernard wrote: Good morning everyone First off, a declaration of interest, I'm in business selling desktop PCs. However, to avoid accusations of spamming, I won't give further details (unless you actually want them!) My reason for contacting you all is a sort of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Jamie Bennett
Rob Beard wrote: I'm looking to offer a base unit, 2GHz dual core Celeron (E1400) with 2GB DDR2 PC2-6400 RAM, and a 150GB SATA hdd. Graphics, sound and ethernet are onboard. Like I said, I would install Ubuntu 8.10 (and, of course, ubuntu 9.04 when it's released!) and run through the update

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Rob Beard
On 25/03/2009 10:24, Jamie Bennett wrote: Rob Beard wrote: I'm looking to offer a base unit, 2GHz dual core Celeron (E1400) with 2GB DDR2 PC2-6400 RAM, and a 150GB SATA hdd. Graphics, sound and ethernet are onboard. Like I said, I would install Ubuntu 8.10 (and, of course, ubuntu 9.04

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Eddie, I don't believe you're breaking any rules as such on this mailing list. I personally think we should foster and encourage UK based companies/individuals who seek to supply Ubuntu based computers. I'd like to see more of this kind of discussion. 2009/3/25 Eddie Bernard edd...@gmail.com:

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Eddie Bernard
Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: Surely for the average user a LTS version would be better, such as 8.04? Development versions and upgrades could raise severe antagonisms to you. Fair cop, glad you pointed that out. I need to curb my enthusiasm for always wanting to be on the bleeding edge... Eddie

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Eddie Bernard
2009/3/25 Alan Pope a...@popey.com: Hi Eddie, I don't believe you're breaking any rules as such on this mailing list. I personally think we should foster and encourage UK based companies/individuals who seek to supply Ubuntu based computers. I'd like to see more of this kind of discussion.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Alan Pope
2009/3/25 Eddie Bernard edd...@gmail.com: Cheers for the heads up. I'm just reading their website now... I assume I would need to register for their system builder programme. I don't suppose you know if that costs money? You'd need to check with them, but I believe it does cost per-pc sold, a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Eddie Bernard
2009/3/25 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk: On 25/03/2009 10:24, Jamie Bennett wrote: Rob Beard wrote: I'm looking to offer a base unit, 2GHz dual core Celeron (E1400) with 2GB DDR2 PC2-6400 RAM, and a 150GB SATA hdd. Graphics, sound and ethernet are onboard. Like I said, I would install Ubuntu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Rob Beard
On 25/03/2009 11:47, Eddie Bernard wrote: 2009/3/25 Rob Beardr...@esdelle.co.uk: On 25/03/2009 10:24, Jamie Bennett wrote: Rob Beard wrote: I'm looking to offer a base unit, 2GHz dual core Celeron (E1400) with 2GB DDR2 PC2-6400 RAM, and a 150GB SATA hdd. Graphics, sound

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Steve Cook
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eddie Bernard wrote: Good morning everyone I have a price in mind for this machine (including UK mainland delivery) - but I'm curious to hear what other people think might be a fair price for it. Here’s your competition

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Jamie Bennett
Steve Cook wrote: Here’s your competition http://efficientpc.co.uk/ The Wraith, same system with 2gb of ram - £232.61. Nice looking little system there. Regards, Jamie -- http://www.linuxuk.org -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Eddie Bernard
2009/3/25 Jamie Bennett ja...@linuxuk.org: Steve Cook wrote: Here's your competition http://efficientpc.co.uk/ The Wraith, same system with 2gb of ram - Ł232.61. Nice looking little system there. Great - I can definitely beat that and by some way. I can't tell whether this machine at this

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread John Levin
Eddie Bernard wrote: I think the market conditions are pretty difficult at the moment, too. Understandably, perhaps, but then again I would have thought if anything the lower end of the market would be attracting more customers trying to get a cheap PC. Or maybe people just aren't buying

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Eddie Bernard
2009/3/25 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk: On 25/03/2009 11:47, Eddie Bernard wrote: Do you think I might do better offering this machine with a 250GB drive? Just wondering how much space a customer might need these days... You might be worth offering a 250GB drive if the cost difference isn't

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Ted
Eddie Bernard wrote: 2009/3/25 Jamie Bennett ja...@linuxuk.org: Steve Cook wrote: Here's your competition http://efficientpc.co.uk/ The Wraith, same system with 2gb of ram - Ł232.61. Nice looking little system there. Great - I can definitely beat that and by some

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Alan Bell
Fantastic to see any entry to the market with a non-windows PC. At the moment if we want to buy a desktop PC there are only a couple of places in the UK we can get one without Windows. The commodity desktop PC market is not a particularly nice place to be right now. The big boys appear to be

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Liam Proven
2009/3/25 Matt Jones m...@mattjones.me.uk: In the past, that opinion was fairly valid. Now, the celerons are actually quite speedy little chips, espescially for an Ubuntu box that is going to run web/openoffice/music all day. As for recommending a Via over the current (Dual core) celerons,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Matt Jones
In the past, that opinion was fairly valid. Now, the celerons are actually quite speedy little chips, espescially for an Ubuntu box that is going to run web/openoffice/music all day. As for recommending a Via over the current (Dual core) celerons, they are quite a long way behind in performance

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Sean Miller
Interesting discussion. People are saying a Linux PC should be cheaper than Windows and - as I've said before - I am firmly of the view that this is a perception that we should seek to correct. The free in Linux is NOT as in beer, and time and time again we keep reverting to this concept that it