Re: [UC] provisional ballots -- War Begun?

In a message dated 11/5/2004 1:34:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We lost the battle but the war has just begun! Since you guys already lost the war, might it be time to consider diplomacy?   While it is obvious you are not going to sue for piece, it is just as obv

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values -- A Few Questions...

Title: Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values -- A Few Questions... Dear Craig, Understandably you are elated to have your candidate win.  I respect your choice. I do have a few questions though.  Why is it AFTER the election do we find out that the BIG deciding issue was family values? As a re

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values -- A Few Questions...

Actually Wilma I did receive literature from the RNC attacking (deamonizing) a local candidate soley on the ground that she was pro-gay marriage. There was no other information on the literature about the candidate or other issues to consider. It was a real eye-opener that people feel so stron

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values -- A Few Questions...

On Fri, 5 Nov 2004, Wilma de Soto wrote: > Was there an underground campaign of fear directed solely at them, ( a > largely mono-cultural, non-diverse group) that caused them to vote the way > they did in spite of their dire economic straits, AND an overt campaign > regarding National Security

[UC] post-election strategy workshop

  Since SA has suggested the war is just beginning, some of you Blues may be interested the below post-election planning workshop. If anyone attends, please post a synopsis of the presentation.     WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?  -- a post-election strategy workshopfacilitated by Training for Cha

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values -- Everyman's America

In a message dated 11/4/2004 10:43:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No matter how you try to twist the statistics, and might I say without humor, the ordinary people of America soundly repudiated you blues. This is at the core of the point I've been making. The mas

Re: [UC] provisional ballots

In a message dated 11/5/2004 1:34:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The PA website also states that you must be "entitled" to vote in the election district where you cast the Provisional Ballot.  Thus it seems that a person registered to vote in one polling locati

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values -- Everyman's America

In a message dated 11/5/2004 9:12:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's just been a book (I didn't buy it when I first read the review and now can't remember the title or author -- can someone help, here?) that discussed the idea of the collective wisdom of the populace

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values -- A Few Questions...

From: Stephen Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 07:56:02 -0500 It was a real eye-opener that people feel so strongly about abortion and gay rights that they are willing to overlook everything else -- EVEN a war they didn't necessarily believe in or a President wi

[UC] Halloween Parade: spiritual growth

Seven or eight years ago East of West Townwatch started an afternoon Halloween Parade in its territory (42nd to 46th, Spruce to Regent). Its target was the very young, ages 2 to 6, who might not be ready for full-fledged trick-or-treating later in the evening. It met in Clark Park and looped

[UC] UCD Sells Clear Bags for Leag Removal

University City District (3940 Chestnut Street) offers cases of clear bags to the community and/or landlords for leaf removal at $21.25 a case (150 bags/case). Please contact John Fenton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 215-243-0555 to schedule pick-up or delivery. Reminder: Leaf Collection and Recyclin

[UC] City Leaf Removal Program

Does anyone know which "Sanitation Areas" in Street Department lingo UC is divided into? Specifically, what Sanitation Area is the 4600 block of Larchwood in? I would like this information so that I can figure out when the City will be picking up leaves on our block. Jonathan A. Cass -Original

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values -- Everyman's America

> Nothing made this as clear to me as the defeat of the gay marriage > propositions in all 11 states where it was on the ballot. It would be encouraging > if > the people who advocated this position really examined why it proved to be > unacceptable to the majority of the voters -- rather th

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values -- A Few Questions...

In a message dated 11/5/2004 9:21:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How these people fingered me as RC is mysterious. There was a rumor that for at least one previous election the Church released its membership DB to help a pro life candidate. No other specifics availa

RE: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values

Craig, with some due respect, you are shouting your manifestos into an ocean of people who not only largely disagree with you, but who fervently and passionately oppose most of what you are putting out here on the listserve, day after day.  You cannot bend me to your mindset any more than I

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values -- Everyman's America

Hello There is a book that just came out. I think its called something like "What happend to Kansas?" It speaks how the plains were a hotbed of Progressiveism and how it became a Republican stronghold..even as Republican economic policies hurt them. What is the name of the book and has anyone rea

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values -- Everyman's America

Book's called: What's the Matter with Kansas: How Conservatives Won the Heart of America, by Thomas Frank I haven't read it yet but it's supposed to be fabulous. Naomi Naomi Segal Regent Square In a message dated 11/5/2004 10:51:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, Mark Krull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wri

RE: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values?

I think what Chip wrote here is pretty interesting. My problem this election was not the holding back from calling people Neanderthals part, but rather not having enough "opponents" to talk rationally to about why I'm voting for Kerry. Most of my friends are already on the same page. When I _did_

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values -- Everyman's America

In a message dated 11/5/2004 10:20:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could you please dumb it down for non-annointed folks like myself?  What areyou trying to say in that paragraph?  What is your position? It's my belief that prejudices against single-sex relatio

[UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Saturday 11/6: Cathy Fink and Marcy Marxer at Crossroads

CALVARY CAFE will open at 6:15 P.M. On the menu: ENTREES: Turkey Breast with Dressing, Gravy and Cranberry Sauce; Veggie Burgers; Beef Burgers with or without Cheese); Spaghetti and Meatballs; Macaroni and Cheese. SIDES: Mixed Greens; Mac and Cheese;Herbed Potatoes; Tossed Salad. DESSERTS: Assorted

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values -- A Few Questions...

After the revelations of torture at Abu Ghraib and Gitmo, a poll found that 42% of Americans did not object to torturing enemy prisoners during wartime. No doubt many of them were sincere Christians, whatever that means. The problem with welcoming Neanderthals into the discussion or into your bi

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values

As much as I disagree with Craig's views, I think it's good for us to confront them. Given that few on the list agree with Craig, it seems that he should be responding on a more frequent level to "offset" the hordes that disagree with him. Most of his posting seem to be in response to someone

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values -- A Few Questions...

Well, their marketing strategy certainly must have broken down very strictly along racial lines as I and other people of color that I know of did not receive any such calls or literature. If others have please advise. Although some of my white friends did hear from the likes of Sean Combs. How's

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values that you don't share

In a message dated 11/5/2004 10:53:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By the way, thanks for the advice about the tree thing. Just as I contacted you re trees from the list, off list, the same is happening regarding this political schism.   Changing your mind never

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values -- Everyman's America

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Nothing made this as clear to me as the defeat of the gay marriage | propositions in all 11 states where it was on the ballot. It would be | encouraging if the people who advocated this position really examined | why it proved

Re: [UC] provisional ballots

Hi, I emailed the state ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) about my provisional ballot questions and got a very prompt, helpful response. I'm very impressed! 1. ANYONE can vote with a provisional ballot, registered, not registered, out of state, etc. 2. the provisional ballot will not count (ie will be thro

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values -- Everyman's America

Title: Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values -- Everyman's America Hadn’t you heard “the masses are asses”? Simply because the common man or the street rapper thinks so doesn’t mean it is necessarily what is best for all.   I do not find it difficult to fathom, rather to the contrary I have com

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values?

From: "Dubin, Elisabeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 11:09:57 -0500 I think what Chip wrote here is pretty interesting. My problem this election was not the holding back from calling people Neanderthals part, but rather not having enough "opponents" to talk rational

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values -- Everyman's America

In a message dated 11/5/2004 12:04:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Probably the best single thing each of us needs to do, for the good ofAmerica, is to find someone who voted the other way, and really try tounderstand *why* they voted the way they did. Great t

RE: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values -- Everyman's America

Well said Jon. I agree. Yesterday there was a forum in center city moderated by Monica Malpass of Channel 6 TV focused on the election results. The forum panel included members of the Kerry and Bush Pennsylvania team and audience Q&A participation. I couldn't make it but I thought it was a great

Re: [UC] Why my plastics are going to the trash

Thanks to everyone who offered to help! I had to gratefully turn down many offers. FYI - The new Giant recycles plastic bags. Now I have to figure out what to do with our coat hangers. I wish Philadelphia would recycle diapers! In a message dated 11/5/2004 12:25:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, [E

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values -- Everyman's America

- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values -- Everyman's America In a message dated 11/5/2004 10:20:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values -- Everyman's America

Amen, Jon. Amen. Thanks for clarifying, Al. Dan W. > Probably the best single thing each of us needs to do, for the good of > America, is to find someone who voted the other way, and really try to > understand *why* they voted the way they did. This is what I take away from "love thy neighbor"

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values -- Everyman's America

Jon Moore said: "...Probably the best single thing each of us needs to do, for the good of America, is to find someone who voted the other way, and really try to understand *why* they voted the way they did. The vast majority of Americans are reasonable, decent folks (on b

[UC] Hood No Mo!

Title: Hood No Mo! For the first time in the ten years I've been here, -- we had trick-or-treat'ers. I take this to mean that the neighborhood is no longer the Hood (It's just a street with occasional gunshots). We had, I think 75, and ran out of candy. My favorite costume was the kid next doo

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values?

Charles H. Buchholtz wrote: What the Democrats need to do is to get this message into the "heartland". It might be a good idea to start a left-wing religious values campaign now, in a gentle way, so that in four years it's an accepted part of the political dialogue. I disagree! why are we being a

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values -- Everyman's America

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But can't you just FOR ONCE not have to try to divide everybody up and set up opposing sides? After our recent extraordinary election, for a moment let me take off my rose colored glasses and my Cheshire cat grin. craig®, did you see t

RE: [UC] Hood No Mo!

Title: Hood No Mo! Not so fast my gun shot-hearing friend. Still hood, just with trick or treaters.  Truth be told, a bunch of your listserv friends, including myself, paid some kids to stop by your house to make you feel included.    Jonathan A. Cass -Original Message-From: [EMAIL

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values?

In a message dated 11/5/2004 12:57:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I once talked to a friend of mine, who was something of a Christiantheologian, and I told her that everytime I heard about Christianvalues, it was always something I opposed.  She explained thatleft-wing Ch

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values?

In a message dated 11/5/2004 12:57:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What the Democrats need to dois to get this message into the "heartland".  With all due respect...   Those with the vision of the anointed seem to think that if people disagree with them, they sim

RE: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values?

One more thing to take away from this discussion... Since people often aren't interested in the facts, we should probably focus more on emotional arguments. How many times have you deleted a fact-filled email before reading more than a few lines, because you already knew that you either agreed or

Re: [UC] Phone calls urging us to vote

In a message dated 11/5/04 12:00:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...Although some of my white friends did hear from the likes of Sean Combs. How's THAT for unity, to circumvent certain populations, especially since African-American people tend not to be in favor of gay marriages. Wilma Hi, Wil

Re: [UC] Hood No Mo!

Title: Hood No Mo! Congratulations.  On Windsor, we had a record turnout which I can't give numbers to--more than 500 I am certain.  We and our neighbors in the other half of the twin ran out at 6:30--a full hour earlier than usual, but my wife confessed to buying fewer pieces than she though

[UC] re: our job is not over...

FYI..just in.        KERRY DEFEATED! But Our Job Is Not Over! ALERT: We were successful. John Kerry, the most liberal member of the entire U.S. Senate, went down to defeat yesterday. It was so decisive, he didn't even have the opportunity to litigate the "provisional" ballots in Ohi

RE: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values?

This is all predicated on the idea that there's one real truth, and that if we all talk about it rationally with each other, we all might arrive at it. Sort of center in on it, like triangulate all the opinions and get the truth. But what if truth is not absolute? What if we'll never agree? How

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values?

From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?L_a_s_e_r_B_e_a_m_=AE?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 14:19:38 -0500 Charles H. Buchholtz wrote: > What the Democrats need to do > is to get this message into the "heartland". It might be a good idea > to start a left-wing religious values

[UC] attempted mugging on 4600 Hazel Ave

I wanted to post this to let everyone know that I was the victim of an attempted mugging on the 4600 block of Hazel Ave last night around 5:30pm. I didn't get a good look at the guy, but he was young, and said hi to me before he moved in and tried to rip my purse from my arm. I fought him off

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values?

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 14:51:13 EST In a message dated 11/5/2004 12:57:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What the Democrats need to do is to get this message into the "heartland". With all due respect... Those with the

RE: [UC] re: our job is not over...

Title: Message This is VERY scary.   Kathleen -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of S. Sharrieff AliSent: Friday, November 05, 2004 3:17 PMTo: UnivCity listservSubject: [UC] re: our job is not over... FYI..just in.  

[UC] All politics is local; think globally, act locally

This, from today's DP. How do the red and blue blocks of University City respond to this?   Always at your service and ready for a dialog,Al Krigman 40th Street revitalization raises local concerns

[UC] Coat hangers

I got a lot of email about coat hangers. Many people said that THEIR dry cleaner likes getting them back. I have used three dry cleaners in UC, and none of them wanted the hangers. So if your cleaner likes getting them back, which cleaner do you use? bga P.S. There is also a similar thread on

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values?

From: "Dubin, Elisabeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:55:30 -0500 This is all predicated on the idea that there's one real truth, and that if we all talk about it rationally with each other, we all might arrive at it. Sort of center in on it, like triangulate all

Re: [UC] re: our job is not over...

Title: Message That was my reaction as well.  However, what do we know about this group?  Do they really get money out of this?   And--how different is this from the hundreds of emails I've been deleting from MoveOn? (I consider them spam because I didn't ask to be added to their list, altho

FW: [UC] re: our job is not over...

I received a similiar email today.  I found it to be VERY scary.   JMW  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of S. Sharrieff AliSent: Friday, November 05, 2004 3:17 PMTo: UnivCity listservSubject: [UC] re: our job is not over... FYI..just in

Re: [UC] All politics is local; think globally, act locally

In a message dated 11/5/2004 4:42:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "I just have this uncomfortable feeling about these self-anointed people that somehow think that they know what is best for everybody else," Krigman said. "I believe the whole idea is to get rid of these peo

Re: [UC] Phone calls urging us to vote

In a message dated 11/5/2004 3:57:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 11/5/04 12:00:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...Although some of my white friends did hear from the likes of Sean Combs.How's THAT for unity, to circumvent certain populations, especiall

Re: [UC] re: our job is not over...

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Turner,Kathleen wrote: | This is VERY scary. This is only scary in that, had Kerry won, we'd have likely seen a nearly identically-worded message from some Democratic-leaning 529 group. I read a message like this and think, "huh, I'm a liberal, and thes

[UC] Enough about politics, let's talk about punk...

All you West Philly punkers take note... *** Earlier this year, Gogol Bordello, NYC's renegade band of gypsy madpeople peeled the paint off the walls at 15th & South's Tritone, where nearly 250 crazed fans crammed into the sweaty, sold-out space for a performance by this "gang of Ukrainian/Russian

Re: [UC] attempted mugging on 4600 Hazel Ave

A friend of ours had her purse stolen last night around 47th and Baltimore, and it sounds like it may have been the same guy -- she said he was young and grabbed her purse from her arm. Please do file a police report. Even if you don't have much information, it may help them establish some kin

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values

Title: Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values You forgot to mention that luckily for the hoi polloi, it's also a stronghold of those who have the vision of the anointed. Unfortunately, the “hoi polloi” are the very common folk and not the cultural, intellectual or financial elite. Wilma   On

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values?

Title: Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values? With all due respect.. I have spent my life’s work trying to sell higher thought and education to the great unwashed masses in the School District of Philadelphia. Each succeeding year it has gotten harder (28 years and counting) and I can tell you

Re: [UC] UCD Sells Clear Bags for Leag Removal    

Mark, Help me out here. I don't see any of UC on the city's leaf schedule! Do you? Paul In a message dated 11/5/2004 9:46:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Mark Christman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >University City District (3940 Chestnut Street) offers cases of clear bags >to the community

Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values?

On Nov 5, 2004, at 12:20 PM, Charles H. Buchholtz wrote: Hmmm, left-wing televangelists... Listen to the Unitarians... GJJ You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see .