Dear list,
I want to leave you some info before heading to police headquarters and press
room. (I think this armed car jacking affair may warrant a police press
release either way).
Police computer aided dispatch system:
http://www.ppdonline.org/ops/ops_tech_cad.php
The police start a
I'll take this along to police headquarters and have the police verify this
information.
Thanks, Mr West.
Mr. Moyer
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Dear list,
It appears we do have a police problem. I just spoke with Sargeant Monk, #517,
215-686-3268. He authorized me to post his information so you can confirm my
reports. On Saturday, I confirmed with Officer Davis.
There was some type of car robbery incident on the 500 block of 44th,
Are you sure we have a police problem, and not a deranged list busybody
with delusions of grandeur and a persecution complex problem?
- Mike V.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 10:26 AM
To:
In a message dated 8/6/2007 11:35:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Are you sure we have a police problem, and not a deranged list busybody with
delusions of grandeur and a persecution complex problem?
Mike:
I notice that you're on the civil citizens' list at
Al,
It would be unwise to make assumptions about what I do or don't approve
of based solely on what in which databases my name lies, especially
since you admit you haven't done the extremely small amount of research
necessary to make your claims plausibe.
Listen, you and I have butted heads
In a message dated 8/6/2007 12:04:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It would be unwise to make assumptions about what I do or don't approve of
based solely on what in which databases my name lies, especially since you
admit you haven't done the extremely small
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But what you say above is a bit of misdirection. The fact is that your
post was gratuitously insulting and is reflective of the kinds of
things we should all be trying to avoid. Not by a few people picking
up their marbles and going elsewhere (while still keeping their
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 8/6/2007 11:35:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Are you sure we have a police problem, and not a deranged list
busybody with delusions of grandeur and a persecution complex problem?
Mike:
I notice that you're on the
Uriah Heep-like admissions
The character or the band?
- Mike V.
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From: Brian Siano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UC] Car jacking confirmation
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 13:22:32 -0400
This comment makes no sense at all. It assumes that people who joined the
other list should, for some reason, be extra-civil over here on the
rough'n'tumble Purple list. And if
Did they? I'd love to see where. Show me, please.
- Mike V.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KAREN ALLEN
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:09 PM
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Car jacking confirmation
It's also a typically
August 3rd, 11:08 a.m.
There was 1 incident. IT WAS AN ABANDONED CAR!!! [...] Take care
everyone, I hope no one was frightened about the report of these 2 armed
black men.Very upset at this point, Glenn Moyer
PS: Sharrieff, if you or anyone from the safety committee wish to
accompany me
KAREN ALLEN wrote:
From: Brian Siano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UC] Car jacking confirmation
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 13:22:32 -0400
This comment makes no sense at all. It assumes that people who joined
the other list should, for some reason, be extra-civil over here on
the rough'n'tumble
Dear News Editors,
On August 1, there was some type of car jacking with the reports of a gun at
44th and Larchwood in University City. This was reported on a public listserv
and described very poor incompetent police work.
I doubted the veracity of the account and twice attempted to verify
From: Mike V. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'KAREN ALLEN' [EMAIL PROTECTED], UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: RE: [UC] Car jacking confirmation
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 14:18:33 -0400
Actually, you guys invented that rule for yourselves.
Did they? I'd love to see where. Show me, please.
- Mike
I rest my case.
From: Brian Siano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Car jacking confirmation
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:22:55 -0400
For _our_ list. _This_ list is Open Season.
You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the
list named UnivCity.
Ah, I believe you are under a misapprehension, Karen. Kyle made up some
rules for his mailing list, yes, but that rule certainly doesn't apply
to this list, and despite what certain hatemongering gadflies may think,
Kyle does not speak for everyone who happened to sign up for the mailing
list
Dear list,
I spent a lot of time looking for the truth on this car jacking. I am not
sorry I pursued this but I'm sorry I was the instrument of misinformation. I
certainly gave an honest account of my sources of information.
I'm glad that a serious police problem was uncovered. We don't
Mike V. wrote:
Ah, I believe you are under a misapprehension, Karen. Kyle made up some
rules for his mailing list, yes, but that rule certainly doesn't apply
to this list, and despite what certain hatemongering gadflies may think,
Kyle does not speak for everyone who happened to sign up for the
Glenn, will you also be issuing an apology to Tony West and the rest of
us that criticized your rush to judgement?
- Mike V.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 3:10 PM
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Lady, you're barking up the wrong tree. I never said I hated garbage.
I never said I didn't want contention. Kyle said that he didn't want
contention, and while I'm in his sandbox, I'm content to play by his
rules. But this sandbox has different rules.
In some states I have to wear a helmet
His name is Enrique Harms. There's an excellent video and slide show about
these Mennonites at:
http://www.knbc.com/news/4232205/detail.html
Keep in mind that us local Mennonites who meet at 9:00am Sunday mornings in
the Calvary Center are much, much nicer. At least, most of us.
--
Ross
Glenn wrote:
Dear list,
I spent a lot of time looking for the truth on this car jacking. I am
not sorry I pursued this but I'm sorry I was the instrument of
misinformation. I certainly gave an honest account of my sources of
information.
I'm glad that a serious police problem was
Please do not address me as lady. I do not know you.
From: Mike V. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'KAREN ALLEN' [EMAIL PROTECTED],UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: RE: [UC] Car jacking confirmation
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 15:28:31 -0400
Lady, you're barking up the wrong tree. I never said I hated
KAREN ALLEN wrote:
That may be true. You don't want contention on your list, while
getting in people's faces here.
So if it's OK act like that here, then what's the problem??? Why a
new list??? It's OK to come onto MY list with garbage while
simultaneously claiming you hate garbage? You
KAREN ALLEN wrote:
Please do not address me as lady. I do not know you.
How do you feel about Karen baby?
Bubbalah?
Apple Dumpling?
Li'l Nell?
Your Imperial Majesty?
Ivan Grozny?
You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the
list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for
Mr. Siano:
I'm no one's mother, and it's not my place to tell other adults what to say
or not to say. Tony West is certainly capable of defending himself, and has
done so in the past.
But I cannot abide hypocrisy: you're the ones claiming some moral high
ground while doing the same thing you
Well, I'm happy to grant at least half of your request. But I do
reserve the right to respond to your inaccurate and unreasonable list
emails.
- Mike V.
-Original Message-
From: KAREN ALLEN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:
On Aug 6, 2007, at 03:28 PM, Mike V. wrote:
Lady, you're barking up the wrong tree. I never said I hated garbage.
I never said I didn't want contention.
But you did say this:
Glenn's ranting takes up my bandwidth, my time and my attention.
Banning him isn't censorship. It's hygiene.
There's a difference between mad ranting and contentious name-calling.
- Mike V.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:23 PM
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Car jacking confirmation
On Aug
Sorry to interrrupt the valuable time of list-serve members but I just thought
you might like to know:
James' Grille, formerly at the Firehouse Market and now at 5143 Baltimore Ave
(215-476-2221) has recently reopened. He had a few problems obtaining a health
dept license (largely because of
Or maybe they are just republicans?
(Isn't this the way Bush and his ilk are running our country?)
Liz
On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:17:16 -0400 KAREN ALLEN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
That may be true. You don't want contention on your list, while
getting in
people's faces here.
So if it's OK
I take your point, and it's not unreasonable. However, his posting
volume is relatively consistent whether or not anyone replies to him.
The man creates his own controversy. Take this recent carjacking thing
-- he worked himself into a lather without any help from yours truly.
Thus the
In light of recent posts, I thought I'd share very popular links.
For those who want to give orders that will actually be obeyed:
http://www.idodogtricks.com/index_flash.html
(This one is kid friendly, with quiet background music.)
For those who want to see:
What they look like to
Quite right about Melani. She expressed her view without being nasty about
it.
Her incident with the police at 46th Market seemed plausible.
Is the new list only to take nasty potshots at those of us on the UC
Listserv, only to be sweetness and light on the UC Neighbors at Penn
Listserv?
And
(Granted, _I_ can be pretty mean-spirited... but I don't pretend I'm _not_.)
Yes, you do!
On 8/6/07 1:15 PM, Brian Siano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(Granted, _I_ can be pretty mean-spirited... but I don't pretend I'm _not_.)
You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the
Come on, Wilma. I've always taken potshots where I felt they were
warranted.
- Mike V.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilma de Soto
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 5:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; UnivCity listserv
Subject: Re: [UC] Car
Ross Bender wrote:
His name is Enrique Harms. There's an excellent video and slide show about
these Mennonites at:
http://www.knbc.com/news/4232205/detail.html
Keep in mind that us local Mennonites who meet at 9:00am Sunday mornings in
the Calvary Center are much, much nicer. At least, most of
AND publicly discrediting people on this list who disagree with the new
listserv founders.
What's up with THAT?
Is it civilized conversation (when attacks are made on the original UC
Listserv), or a more politically expedient listserv for a developmental
plan, where there might be some
First,
WHY are you posting on this horrible list?
The UC Neighbors List was created to distance the good, truthful people from
the crazies, wackos, etc.
There is no reason WHATSOEVER for your disputing ANY account of community
politics posted herein since they would be patently false!
Second,
Elizabeth F Campion wrote:
In light of recent posts, I thought I'd share very popular links.
For those who want to give orders that will actually be obeyed:
http://www.idodogtricks.com/index_flash.html
(This one is kid friendly, with quiet background music.)
hahaha
I typed in: BE
Not exactly speaking for my old High School friend Karen,
What has her accusing you of hypocrisy have to do with your assertion of her
accusing you of racism?
On 8/6/07 3:39 PM, Brian Siano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
KAREN ALLEN wrote:
That may be true. You don't want contention on your list,
Glenn,
You have assumed the efficiency and all-knowingness of our city departments
before to back up your allegations against community members (i.e. in the
supposed collusion of the Dept. of Parks and FOCP in the removal of the large
Tulip tree in Clark Park.)
And now you want kudos for
Unfortunately, so have I. You KNOW it.
I am really disturbed about the backlash from the UC Neighbors Listserv
subscribers like you and Mr. Siano. Why?
I am curious about Brian Siano¹s rant about Karen Allen calling people
racist after he had accused me, (for the same reason) of being one of
John Ellingsworth wrote:
Philadelphia Stories: The Building of a Great American City
The Art Institute of Philadelphia and PhillyHistory.org are proud to
announce the opening of Philadelphia Stories: The Building of a Great
American City, a new exhibit of more than 80 remarkable historic
Wilma de Soto wrote:
Not exactly speaking for my old High School friend Karen,
What has her accusing you of hypocrisy have to do with your assertion of her
accusing you of racism?
I never said that Karen accused me of racism.
I said that Glenn Moyer accused Tony West of racism. I pointed
Wilma de Soto wrote:
AND publicly discrediting people on this list who disagree with the new
listserv founders.
What's up with THAT?
Glenn was wrong, and he discredited himself. I just spelled it out for
everyone.
Thank you for acknowledging that he has been discredited.
Is it civilized
Wilma de Soto wrote:
Second, Did NOT Anthony West (and others) try to portray Glenn NOT only as a
liar and a mental case, but also Ray Rorke repeatedly?
That is NOT true.
Tony West did not portray Glenn as a liar and a mental case. Glenn _IS_
a liar and a mental case.
Tony and I have merely
I read about it in the in the paper.
Thank you for the link.
-Wilma
On 8/6/07 9:19 AM, John Ellingsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Philadelphia Stories: The Building of a Great American City
The Art Institute of Philadelphia and PhillyHistory.org are proud to
announce the opening of
I don't think Glenn and Ray are mental cases in a vague, insulting
sense. Both have displayed paranoid thinking repeatedly, year after
year, in public, on this list. It is always fair to call this what it is.
Once again, I won't step into a deeper discussion of paranoia in this
case because
Tony,
Very well!
Apparently I am a falsifier, because I have read posts where you and others
have stated that Ray was a liar and also Glenn Moyer.
I saw a post as recently as this weekend, that all who would soon be left on
the UC Listserv would be the crazies.
I quoted an earlier post of mine
So what's the story, Karen? Is it OK to accuse people of racism? Do you
share Glenn's deranged grudge against Tony? Is this some personal thing
between you and me that I'm unaware of? Is your list a place where
only certain people get bad-behavior passes?
Very well.
Then why mention it to Karen
Fine.
Bueno y qué?
On 8/6/07 7:21 PM, Brian Siano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wilma de Soto wrote:
AND publicly discrediting people on this list who disagree with the new
listserv founders.
What's up with THAT?
Glenn was wrong, and he discredited himself. I just spelled it out for
What could one say to to that?
On 8/6/07 7:29 PM, Brian Siano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wilma de Soto wrote:
Second, Did NOT Anthony West (and others) try to portray Glenn NOT only as a
liar and a mental case, but also Ray Rorke repeatedly?
That is NOT true.
Tony West did not portray
Yo Wilma,
No, you're not falsifying. Ray and Glenn have repeatedly published
falsehoods and I have pointed it out. I work much harder on Ray's posts,
because Ray's falsehoods are more sophisticated, more believable and, I
think, less frequent, which suggests Ray may have something else to
Nor I with you.
I was responding to your post where you said you would not try to portray
people as liars or crazies.
Still, (not from you), there was a post this weekend stating soon that would
be left on this are the crazies.
It just makes me wonder, WHY?? Given the posts from those who are
In light of this recent thread, I offer the response of the Lower Merion
township to a similar incident:
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20070806_Warning_of_carjackings_in_Lower_Merion.html
--
Regards,
John Ellingsworth
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I agree, Glenn. You owe Tony and anyone else you accused of lying and
race-baiting a serious, personal apology. Not just a retraction.
Kimm
On 8/6/07 6:55 PM, Margie Politzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Glenn,
You have assumed the efficiency and all-knowingness of our city departments
James Grille's back.
Egg sandwich, hmmm.
-Lew
From: Vincent/Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Vincent/Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: University City List univcity@list.purple.com
Subject: [UC] James' Grille
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:53:08 -0400
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