RE: OT: Do spammers have a sense of humor?

2005-04-12 Thread Kurt Buff
Most people reading this list are probably not aware that batman has a slightly different meaning to some people in current/former British colonies. A batman was someone who acted something like a personal servant to British military staff, mostly officers, I believe. He wasn't the caped denizen

Re[2]: BAYES...sitewide or per-user or not at all?

2005-04-12 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Gerald, Saturday, April 9, 2005, 5:10:02 PM, you wrote: GVLI> I'm looking at what scores I'll be able to let my users modify directly. If GVLI> they can drop the bayes scores some for individual users it might not be so GVLI> bad. I'm trying really hard not to ostracize any specific group

RE: report_safe doesn't seem to work since FC3 upgrade

2005-04-12 Thread Chris Harvey
Anyone else seeing similar behavior!? I cannot find out what is wrong. If I edit my sensitivity (require_hits) it's reflected in my logs, yet none of these settings appear to be working: report_safe 1 rewrite_header Subject **NEW_SPAM(_SCORE_)** If I put the old settings back of: rewrite_subjec

Re: sa-learn causes fatal thrashing

2005-04-12 Thread Tristan Miller
Greetings. On Monday 11 April 2005 13:38, Niek wrote: > On 4/11/2005 9:31 AM +0100, Tristan Miller wrote: > > I have 256 MB of RAM plus 243 MB of swap space. Unfortunately, > > upgrading RAM will not be a cheap fix as I am using a laptop with no > > user-serviceable parts. > > > > Regards, > > Tr

Re: Gateways, analyze first, insert into bayes later ?

2005-04-12 Thread Matt Yackley
Hi Herold, Are you using a sitewide bayes DB? This may affect your choice of solutions, I'm running sitewide, so my method may not work if you are using seperate DBs for all your users Herold Heiko said: > Newbie Alert - New to Spamassassin. Pondering enhancement to my current > basic setu

translation project (French)

2005-04-12 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Okay, I'm starting an experiment to see if Wiki-based editing can start with some really bad machine-generated translations and get to the point where they are usable relatively quickly. Anyone who reads and writes both French and English well can help. Here it is: http://wiki.apache.org/spama

Unattended spamassassing installation

2005-04-12 Thread Oliver Schulze L.
Hi, I'm new in SpamAssassin, and I just installed it. I'm running SA with Razor2 and Mimedefang. All is wokring fine. I wonder how un-atended can I left the installation in order to SA to continue detecting spam. Should I run some scripts every few days in order to keep the "definitions" up to date

RE: about SPF

2005-04-12 Thread martin smith
M>I had the same problem. It turns out that if the email is being M>relayed through trusted or internal hosts, SA will skip the M>SPF checks on the belief that it cannot trust that one of M>those hosts hasn't M>changed the envelope headers.I ended up opening an enhancement M>request to a

Re: about SPF

2005-04-12 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
martin smith wrote: M>I had the same problem. It turns out that if the email is being M>relayed through trusted or internal hosts, SA will skip the M>SPF checks on the belief that it cannot trust that one of M>those hosts hasn't M>changed the envelope headers.I ended up opening an enhance

Re: translation project (French)

2005-04-12 Thread John Wilcock
Daniel Quinlan wrote: Okay, I'm starting an experiment to see if Wiki-based editing can start with some really bad machine-generated translations and get to the point where they are usable relatively quickly. Anyone who reads and writes both French and English well can help. The Wiki method seems

random rudeness!

2005-04-12 Thread Robert Brooks
bizarre! > Subject: intimate encounter > > Heyyy it's me %ASSHOLE... %OUT > > %PROFILE...%PART4 > > http://himMUNGEDlove.com/d/8.php -- Robert Brooks, Network Manager, Cable & Wireless UK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://hyperlink-interactive.co.uk/ Tel: +44 (0)20 7339 8600

Re: translation project (French)

2005-04-12 Thread Daniel Quinlan
John Wilcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The Wiki method seems like an excellent idea, and I'd be happy to help > with the French translations as time permits. Cool. > One suggestion to make the process even quicker and easier - would it be > possible to adapt your script to include the old

Help installing version 3.0.2

2005-04-12 Thread Matthias
Hello, my attempts of installing spamassassin 3.0.2 for personal use get failed. Here is a log. [avalyn] diba:~ <88> uname -a Linux diba 2.4.26-1um #3 Thu Jun 3 22:56:55 UTC 2004 i686 unknown (Debian) [avalyn] diba:~/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2 <92> perl Makefile.PL PREFIX=$HOME What email address

Re: Unattended spamassassing installation

2005-04-12 Thread JamesDR
Oliver Schulze L. wrote: Hi, I'm new in SpamAssassin, and I just installed it. I'm running SA with Razor2 and Mimedefang. All is wokring fine. I wonder how un-atended can I left the installation in order to SA to continue detecting spam. Should I run some scripts every few days in order to keep the

RE: Gateways, analyze first, insert into bayes later ?

2005-04-12 Thread Herold Heiko
> From: Matt Yackley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Are you using a sitewide bayes DB? This may affect your I will at first, I need to start as soon as possible, this means I'm postponing the issue of finding out how to have on my mail gateway box virtual users associated with the real smtp address

Re: random rudeness!

2005-04-12 Thread Jim Maul
Robert Brooks wrote: bizarre! > Subject: intimate encounter > > Heyyy it's me %ASSHOLE... %OUT > > %PROFILE...%PART4 > > http://himMUNGEDlove.com/d/8.php I got the same damn thing ;) Subject: me out From: "Mrs.Sherman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 23:08:01 -0300 Heyz, it's me %

SARE rules for 3.0.2 users?

2005-04-12 Thread ROY,RHETT G
To those using 3.0.2 and the newer features (URI blacklists etc), what SARE rules do you find supplement your spam catching?   Thanks,   Rhett Roy

RE: random rudeness!

2005-04-12 Thread Pierre Thomson
I recently got two in quick succession, one with variable names and one filled with random data, as in: >Heyyy it's me Jennifer... my husband is out of town for two months... etc etc At least we can match %ASSHOLE... that's not likely to appear in ham! :) Pierre -Original Message-

Re: random rudeness!

2005-04-12 Thread List Mail User
>... >Robert Brooks wrote: >> bizarre! >> >> > Subject: intimate encounter >> > >> > Heyyy it's me %ASSHOLE... %OUT >> > >> > %PROFILE...%PART4 >> > >> > http://himMUNGEDlove.com/d/8.php >> > >I got the same damn thing ;) > >Subject: me out >From: "Mrs.Sherman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Mon

RE: OT: Do spammers have a sense of humor?

2005-04-12 Thread Pierre Thomson
Just fished this one out of the spambox: >Your exclusive night has been confirmed with Erika. > >Time: ASAP >Location: Either Home within 1.2 miles of you >Attire: Dress casual >Expectation(s): To get right to it. >Quote from Janice: "I've got a nice house open to you! I'm alone these next >few

to sync or not to sync, that is the question - so confused

2005-04-12 Thread Peter Marshall
Hey, I got this book (slightly outdated) called Spamassassin (by O'Reilly). Anyway, it says if you are going to sa-learn a bunch of directories in Maildir format you should do the following: sa-learn --no-rebuild --spam mail/spam sa-learn --no-rebuild ...blah. sa-learn --no-rebuild -

Re: random rudeness!

2005-04-12 Thread Robert Brooks
List Mail User wrote: Did either of you try listing himlove. com (invalid telephone/fax), or notice that the contacts' email is from a non-existant domain, heroutside. com. Or that the name servers in carr821. com also have an invalid address. Or that the contact domain from the DNS serve

RE: OT: Do spammers have a sense of humor?

2005-04-12 Thread Chris Santerre
Well thanks for ruining another childhood fantasy of mine! I suppose next you will tell me that wonderwoman if Swedish for "House maid"? Well I still don't care, she can lasso me up! --Chris >-Original Message- >From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 8:12

RE: OT: Do spammers have a sense of humor?

2005-04-12 Thread Gray, Richard
These spams are a personal favorite of mine, because they carry with them the slim chance that they are in fact perfectly legitimate messages. Imagine my girlfriend saw that I had received this, I would have to try and explain myself without pointing out forged headers etc! R > -Original Mes

RE: OT: Do spammers have a sense of humor?

2005-04-12 Thread Andy Jezierski
HOLY British Military Servant Batman! Be careful Robin, this might be spam.  To the bat-computer! Sorry, couldn't resist!   :-D Kurt Buff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 04/11/2005 07:11:41 PM: > Most people reading this list are probably not aware that batman has a > slightly different meaning

Re: random rudeness!

2005-04-12 Thread List Mail User
>... > >List Mail User wrote: >> Did either of you try listing himlove. com (invalid telephone/fax), >> or notice that the contacts' email is from a non-existant domain, >> heroutside. com. Or that the name servers in carr821. com also have >> an invalid address. Or that the contact domain f

Re: random rudeness!

2005-04-12 Thread Robert Brooks
List Mail User wrote: Start with your favorite version of "whois" (I like jwhois, because you seldom need to enter the registry). Then learn the rules about what is required. Lookup all the contacts' email domains - if you *really* want to get them check the email validity with telnet to

SpamAssassin and Horde

2005-04-12 Thread Angelo Ayres Camargo
Hello,   Mail sent from horde imp are been taged as spam, this was discussed here before, searching the archives i found no solution. Anyone have any ideia of how make mail from Horde/Imp not be taged as spam?   Angelo

RE: about SPF

2005-04-12 Thread martin smith
M> M>Could you please forward a few complete messages that M>incorrectly get an SPF fail with the patch applied. M> M>The patch has no effect on SPF_HELO tests. M> M> M>Daryl M> Looks like I have to put mail.apache.org as a trusted server for this list to pass the spf test, the email direct from y

Re: SpamAssassin and Horde

2005-04-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Angelo Ayres Camargo wrote: > Hello, > > Mail sent from horde imp are been taged as spam, this was discussed > here before, searching the archives i found no solution. Anyone have > any ideia of how make mail from Horde/Imp not be taged as spam? > > Angelo Angelo, First, I assume you mean th

How to filter chinese and japanese characters

2005-04-12 Thread bruno . delladucata
Hello All I must configure a centralized SA to deliver mails world wide trough Lotus Notes. Has someone knowledge how to configure SA for different languages / character sets and also custom filter rules? I know only two entries in SA ok_languagesen de ja cn ok_locales

Removing SA headers

2005-04-12 Thread .rp
SA 2.64 sendmail 8.13 procmail SA is being called in the system wide procmail and not as a milter. I would like to strip the SA X- headers for those emails that are not considered spam. Is formail the only way to do this?

Re: Removing SA headers

2005-04-12 Thread Andy Jezierski
".rp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 04/12/2005 12:28:29 PM: > SA 2.64 > sendmail 8.13 > procmail > > SA is being called in the system wide procmail and not as a milter. > I would like to strip the SA X- headers for those emails that are not > considered spam. Is formail the only way to do this?

Re: Removing SA headers

2005-04-12 Thread Matt Kettler
.rp wrote: >SA 2.64 >sendmail 8.13 >procmail > >SA is being called in the system wide procmail and not as a milter. >I would like to strip the SA X- headers for those emails that are not >considered spam. Is formail the only way to do this? > > > No, you can use a procmail rule to funnel the

Re: Removing SA headers

2005-04-12 Thread Mike Jackson
Something like this inserted after your main call to SA: :0: * ^X-Spam-Status: No | spamassassin -d Change the first line from: :0: to: :0fc As written, the rule would try to lock the spamassassin program, which might cause weird issues, and since it doesn't include the 'c' option it would simply

SQL install with mSQL driver

2005-04-12 Thread Gary W. Smith
Title: SQL install with mSQL driver Hello, I’m using 3.0.x on RHEL 3 right now in our production environment and was looking at setting up a new test environment.  We use MySQL for the common bayes DB which is working well for us in production. Today I tried installing the same packages fo

Re: Removing SA headers

2005-04-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Mike Jackson wrote: > > As written, the rule would try to lock the spamassassin program, which > might cause weird issues, and since it doesn't include the 'c' option > it would simply throw away the message after removing the headers. > Thanks for the catch Mike. It's the details of what :0: vs :

RE: OT: Do spammers have a sense of humor?

2005-04-12 Thread Pettit, Paul
> Pierre Thomson wrote: > > Fortunately SA (2.64) > saw through it and nailed this using Bayes, DCC, and a custom > rule that penalizes mail coming through the secondary relay > when the primary is up. > Would you be willing to post that custom rule? I get a number of those kind of spams and

Arithmetic score for replaced O's and I's?

2005-04-12 Thread Matt Thoene
Does anyone have a good custom arithmetic score for spam that has a whole bunch of o's and l's replaced with zeros and "|"? Example of part of an l replacement spam body below... Yap International, Inc.(YPIL) VoIP techno|ogy requires no computer or high speed Internet connection for its dia|-up p

Re: Arithmetic score for replaced O's and I's?

2005-04-12 Thread Chris Conn
Matt Thoene wrote: Does anyone have a good custom arithmetic score for spam that has a whole bunch of o's and l's replaced with zeros and "|"? Example of part of an l replacement spam body below... Yap International, Inc.(YPIL) VoIP techno|ogy requires no computer or high speed Internet connection

spamcheck.py ... what happened to it?

2005-04-12 Thread Marc G. Fournier
it used to be in contrib, but 3.x doesn't appear to have it anymore ... has it moved? just trashed altogether? is there a better way of doing lmtp-level scanning between postfix and cyrus-imapd? thanks ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email:

SpamAssassin Suddenly Not Catching Spam

2005-04-12 Thread Jake Colman
I upgraded from SA 2.x to 3.x a few weeks ago. I also installed the Rules Du Jour script for maintaining SARE files. After doing all this the amount of spam caught by SA increased dramatically. All was well. A few days ago I suddenly started having spam get through just like the bad days prior

Re: spamcheck.py ... what happened to it?

2005-04-12 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marc G. Fournier writes: > it used to be in contrib, but 3.x doesn't appear to have it anymore ... > has it moved? just trashed altogether? is there a better way of doing > lmtp-level scanning between postfix and cyrus-imapd? I'm not *sure* but I

Re: SpamAssassin Suddenly Not Catching Spam

2005-04-12 Thread Kevin Peuhkurinen
You can begin by looking at the headers of false negatives and see what rules they are hitting. Are they hitting any negatively-scored rules? Jake Colman wrote: I upgraded from SA 2.x to 3.x a few weeks ago. I also installed the Rules Du Jour script for maintaining SARE files. After doing a

Re: Arithmetic score for replaced O's and I's?

2005-04-12 Thread Matt Thoene
On Tuesday, April 12, 2005 @ 11:42:37 AM [-0700], Chris Conn wrote: > Hello, > I believe I asked for this a few days ago and was told that I would need > to write a plugin to do this =) Hmmm...shouldn't have to. I know the basic layout of what it should look like, I just suck at regex. It should

Re: random rudeness!

2005-04-12 Thread List Mail User
>... > >okay, this all makes sense. Thanks. > >I see manlove .com has been listed already. Do rfc-ignorant take action >on the bogus whois information with the registrar or is that another step? > >Regards, > >Rob > Yes, I nominated it this morning, and it was accepted a few minutes late

Re: Arithmetic score for replaced O's and I's?

2005-04-12 Thread Jim Maul
Chris Conn wrote: Matt Thoene wrote: Does anyone have a good custom arithmetic score for spam that has a whole bunch of o's and l's replaced with zeros and "|"? Example of part of an l replacement spam body below... Yap International, Inc.(YPIL) VoIP techno|ogy requires no computer or high speed I

Re: Arithmetic score for replaced O's and I's?

2005-04-12 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 03:10:19PM -0400, Jim Maul wrote: > Sort of. You wanted to count them, while it sounds as if this poster > just wants to detect them. There is a big difference there. BTW: detecting them accurately is actually pretty difficult depending on what kind of mails you get. F

Re: Arithmetic score for replaced O's and I's?

2005-04-12 Thread Matt Thoene
On Tuesday, April 12, 2005 @ 12:14:02 PM [-0700], Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 03:10:19PM -0400, Jim Maul wrote: >> Sort of. You wanted to count them, while it sounds as if this poster >> just wants to detect them. There is a big difference there. > BTW: detecting them accu

Secondary relay rule (was: Do spammers have a sense of humor?)

2005-04-12 Thread Pierre Thomson
Paul, Fred and others who might wonder: Since SA is only running on my primary relay, and the secondary is located on an internal network (though physically distant), I simply look for mail that includes the internal IP of the secondary in the last "hop". header FROM_M2 Received =~ /1

Re: SpamAssassin Suddenly Not Catching Spam

2005-04-12 Thread Jake Colman
Forgive my ignorance... I assume that "negatively-scored" means that it is less likely to be spam, correct? Here is an example of a message that should have been flagged: X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,HTML_10_20, HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY,RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100,RAZO

RE: Arithmetic score for replaced O's and I's?

2005-04-12 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:14 PM >To: SA Users List >Subject: Re: Arithmetic score for replaced O's and I's? > > >On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 03:10:19PM -0400, Jim Maul wrote: >> Sort of. You wanted to count them, wh

RE: OT: Do spammers have a sense of humor?

2005-04-12 Thread Kurt Buff
Heh. I'm a She-Hulk fan myself. Talk about your powerful woman icon! > -Original Message- > From: Chris Santerre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 07:27 > To: Kurt Buff; users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: RE: OT: Do spammers have a sense of humor? > > > Wel

I like this one.... Particularly the BS from Yahoo.....

2005-04-12 Thread Nigel Frankcom
Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=FU1UmmgKvRlCBEUg1CKomcMMxShgfcM6WKgaJSOKD9D0tUHOxKzy603V5zIMC3MtpLdfh9CN/aRG7HzHYI2nIPlWHYJyO8PxAAl3qroxRQY3KDINcs+qaZSygSnd/nXp+5Yk1fezlUnFxDtEdUcy5YEQ676bu/ksh4+

Re: SpamAssassin Suddenly Not Catching Spam

2005-04-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Jake Colman wrote: >Forgive my ignorance... > >I assume that "negatively-scored" means that it is less likely to be spam, >correct? > >Here is an example of a message that should have been flagged: > >X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,HTML_10_20, >HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY

Re: I like this one.... Particularly the BS from Yahoo.....

2005-04-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Nigel Frankcom wrote: >Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys >DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; >s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; >b=FU1UmmgKvRlCBEUg1CKomcMMxShgfcM6WKgaJSOKD9D0tUHOxKzy603V5zIMC3MtpLdfh9CN/aRG7HzHYI2nIPlWHYJyO8PxAAl3qroxRQY3KDINcs+qaZSygSnd/nXp+5Yk1fezl

Re: Re: I like this one.... Particularly the BS from Yahoo.....

2005-04-12 Thread Nigel Frankcom
Admittedly not much, My biggest issue was yahoo sporting anti spam options in a spam mail. I probably shoulda thought a tad more about the post and a tad less about my beer :-D It struck me as amusing and a solid example of how the best plans can bite one in the ass :-D Apols if any annoyance c

Re: SpamAssassin Suddenly Not Catching Spam

2005-04-12 Thread Jake Colman
> "MK" == Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MK> Yes, that's exactly what he wants you to look at. You can match up all MK> those tests names with scores by greping in 50_scores.cf. Since you have MK> bayes and network checks in use, it will be using the last score in each MK

Re: I like this one.... Particularly the BS from Yahoo.....

2005-04-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Nigel Frankcom wrote: >Admittedly not much, > >My biggest issue was yahoo sporting anti spam options in a spam mail. > > My biggest issue would be the assumption that domainkeys is an anti-spam option. It's not. Period. No matter what some people at slashdot might think, it is NOT an anti-spam

Re: Re: I like this one.... Particularly the BS from Yahoo.....

2005-04-12 Thread Nigel Frankcom
Point accepted, but - why do they market it as such? Nigel On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:45:01 -0400, Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Nigel Frankcom wrote: > >>Admittedly not much, >> >>My biggest issue was yahoo sporting anti spam options in a spam mail. >> >> > >My biggest issue would be t

Re: Razor and ~500k mail/day

2005-04-12 Thread Kelson
Johan Segernäs wrote: I'd like to use razor-check as well on my servers, is it possible to have a server on one of my own boxes or am I forced to use public servers? Haven't found any docs around this. Vipul made a post a few months ago about the idea of setting up a Razor caching plugin for SpamA

Rules to identify simplified and traditional chinese character sets

2005-04-12 Thread Johnson, Robert F
I have a requirement for a rule that will identify emails using either traditional or simplified Chinese character sets. I was able to create a rule that finds these codes in the Internet headers but I have noticed that some emails have the char set identified in the mime header and not the Inte

Re: I like this one.... Particularly the BS from Yahoo.....

2005-04-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Nigel Frankcom wrote: >Point accepted, but - why do they market it as such? > >Nigel > I don't see them (yahoo) marketing it as an anti-spam solution. They market it as a tool to solve problems that anti-spam efforts face (spoofing). http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys/ Of course, the fact that

Re: about SPF

2005-04-12 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
martin smith wrote: M> M>Could you please forward a few complete messages that M>incorrectly get an SPF fail with the patch applied. M> M>The patch has no effect on SPF_HELO tests. M> M> M>Daryl M> Looks like I have to put mail.apache.org as a trusted server for this list to pass the spf test, the