Re: Problems with high spam

2009-10-20 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009, Luis campo wrote: I have the problem that many SPAM emails being filtered to the mail box users, who might that be? what would be the problem that keeps coming in much spam our users, and that he could do to catch any mail that has no distinction as a public issue that i

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-10-20 Thread Jari Fredriksson
20.10.2009 17:44, McDonald, Dan kirjoitti: >> whitelist_from *...@enerquimica.com > > whitelist_from should generally be avoided. find out if these senders > have published an spf record, or use DKIM signing, then use > whitelist_from_spf or whitelist_from_dkim instead of whitelist_from > IMO

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-10-20 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 14:23 +, Luis campo wrote: > Dear Sirs, > > I have the problem that many SPAM emails being filtered to the mail > box users, who might that be? Guys, don't waste your breathe. Looks familiar? http://markmail.org/thread/koiqiu7ijyso7rbn Luis Campo and Jose Luis Marin

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-10-20 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 14:23 +, Luis campo wrote: > Dear Sirs, > > I have the problem that many SPAM emails being filtered to the mail > box users, who might that be? > > what would be the problem that keeps coming in much spam our users, > and that he could do to catch any mail that has no

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-10-20 Thread Bowie Bailey
Luis campo wrote: > * > skip_rbl_checks 1 > * RBL checks are quite useful. Why are you skipping them? > *#Con esto evalua cada mensaje, se requiere un 5.0 para marcarlo como > spam > required_hits 3 > * Spamassassin is designed to score spam at 5 points. If you lower this score, you are riski

RE: Problems with high spam

2009-09-29 Thread Jose Luis Marin Perez
s can be a problem for SpamAssassin? - Which tool can I use to get statistics of SpamAssassin, I am currently using the script "sa-stats.pl". Thanks Jose Luis > Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:33:26 -0700 > From: jhar...@impsec.org > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subj

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread Warren Togami
On 09/23/2009 12:58 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Warren Togami wrote: On 09/23/2009 12:36 PM, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: 3. Add SARE rules Why is anyone still using SARE rules when they haven't been updated for years? Because they still get hits? I get fairly good results

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread Jari Fredriksson
> Dear Sirs, > > So is the option-x is in spamassassin.rc: > Stop right there! Like I wrote in another reply, it goes to spamc that -x option. But do not forget thxt -x in your spamassassin.rc!! spamd also has -x option, which means --no-user-config You do not want that, at least because of

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread Jari Fredriksson
> Dear Sirs, > > So is the option-x is in spamassassin.rc: > Negative. It is an option for spamc. it goes to your simscan options > I configured Simscan with these options: > > ./configure --enable-clamav=y > --enable-clamdscan=/usr/local/bin/clamdscan > --enable-dropmsg=y --enable-custom-sm

RE: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: So is the option-x is in spamassassin.rc: /usr/bin/spamd -v -u vpopmail -m 5 -x -q -s stderr -r /var/run/spamd/spamd.pid \ -i 172.16.10.20 -A 172.16.10.0/24 2>&1 | \ This is incorrect. -x needs to be given to spamc. ./configur

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread jdow
ed=y --enable-spam-hits=5.0 --enable-spamc=/usr/bin/spamc --enable-spamc-args=-s 20 -t 60 -d 172.16.10.20 --enable-spamc-user=y --enable-regex=y --with-pcre-include=/usr/local/include --enable-quarantinedir Thanks Jose Luis Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:33:26 -0700 From: jhar...@impsec.org To:

RE: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 13:06 -0500, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: > Dear Sirs > > A few moments ago I noticed that SA was not assigned any score for > SPAM emails, reviewing the log I see this: > How long is SA taking to scan mails and what proportion of the total are timing out and skipping the

RE: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread Jose Luis Marin Perez
y --with-pcre-include=/usr/local/include --enable-quarantinedir Thanks Jose Luis > Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:33:26 -0700 > From: jhar...@impsec.org > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: Problems with high spam > > On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Jari Fredriksson wrote: &g

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Jari Fredriksson wrote: - the high load is because of high number of spamd children running. - the missing scores of some emails are because you need more of spamd children running, connections are refused so any spamc client just passes messages as they are. And this

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread RW
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:38:00 +0300 "Jari Fredriksson" wrote: > Wow. You have 512 megabytes RAM? > > I have half of that, and 2 childs is all I can allocate. Goes > swapping beyond that. > > One child takes 51 megabytes resident RAM on my machine. Do the math. But presumably a lot of that 51 M

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread Jari Fredriksson
> > - the high load is because of high number of spamd > children running. > > - the missing scores of some emails are because you need > more of spamd children running, connections are refused > so any spamc client just passes messages as they are. > And this is where spamc option -x helps.

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 23.09.09 13:06, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: > A few moments ago I noticed that SA was not assigned any score for SPAM > emails, reviewing the log I see this: > > @40004aba627c21bee88c [25630] info: spamd: got connection over > /tmp/spamd.sock > @40004aba627c21dbc344 [10362] info: p

RE: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: @40004aba627c21dbc344 [10362] info: prefork: child states: As others have noted, you have too many child processes running. Try "-m 5" on your spamd command line rather than "-m 20" cpu Cpu(s): 89.2% us, 9.8% sy,

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 23.09.09 11:36, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: > I made some modifications and additions to the configuration of SA > > 1. Modify required_score from 3.5 to 5.0 > > 2. Add RBL > > 3. Add SARE rules I think I advised you to remove some SARE rules and use DNSBL plugin instead > 4. Add

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread Aaron Wolfe
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Jari Fredriksson wrote: > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > So runs Spamd > > > >>> states: > > > > /usr/bin/spamd -v -u vpopmail -m 20 -x -q -s stderr -r > > /var/run/spamd/spamd.pid > > > > If I have about 10,000 emails to have less processes > > SpamD

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread Jari Fredriksson
> Dear Sirs, > > So runs Spamd > >>> states: > > /usr/bin/spamd -v -u vpopmail -m 20 -x -q -s stderr -r > /var/run/spamd/spamd.pid > > If I have about 10,000 emails to have less processes > SpamD (Example 5) did not cause problems? > > Thanks > > Jose Luis > Well 1

RE: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread Jose Luis Marin Perez
bject: Re: Problems with high spam > Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:38:00 +0300 > > > Dear Sirs > > > > A few moments ago I noticed that SA was not assigned any > > score for SPAM emails, reviewing the log I see this: > > > > states: >

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread Jari Fredriksson
> Dear Sirs > > A few moments ago I noticed that SA was not assigned any > score for SPAM emails, reviewing the log I see this: > > states: Wow. You have 512 megabytes RAM? I have half of that, and 2 childs is all I can allocate. Goes swapping beyond that. One child tak

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread Aaron Wolfe
se Luis> From: > maybe. probably not. who knows? why was your system load at 21? maybe you just have way too many instances of spamassasin running maybe you've got your system configured in a really inefficient way. how could we know? > list...@abbacomm.net > > To: use

RE: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread Jose Luis Marin Perez
comm.net > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: RE: Problems with high spam > Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:27:38 -0700 > > > > > but it could be nice that sare rules was checked in the mass > > check for 3.3.x to get the best rules out in new rule sets > > &

RE: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread R-Elists
> but it could be nice that sare rules was checked in the mass > check for 3.3.x to get the best rules out in new rule sets > > or would some other try this ? > > -- > xpoint Benny! excellent idea in general... will those in authority in SA team please act upon this and tell us in some pos

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread Benny Pedersen
On ons 23 sep 2009 18:50:12 CEST, Warren Togami wrote Why is anyone still using SARE rules when they haven't been updated for years? not all sare rules need to be updated, so some of them is still usefull but it could be nice that sare rules was checked in the mass check for 3.3.x to get the b

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread LuKreme
On 23-Sep-2009, at 10:50, Warren Togami wrote: On 09/23/2009 12:36 PM, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: 3. Add SARE rules Why is anyone still using SARE rules when they haven't been updated for years? Did they stop working? -- "I don't care if Bill Gates is the world's biggest philanthropist.

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Warren Togami wrote: On 09/23/2009 12:36 PM, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: 3. Add SARE rules Why is anyone still using SARE rules when they haven't been updated for years? Because they still get hits? I get fairly good results on the SARE fraud rules, for example. The

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread Warren Togami
On 09/23/2009 12:36 PM, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: 3. Add SARE rules Why is anyone still using SARE rules when they haven't been updated for years? Warren

RE: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: As might improve my antispam system? Are you using Bayes? If you are not, then set up Bayes and train it with several hundred spam and ham messages, and see if that improves things. We cannot make more specific suggestions without samples of

RE: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread Jose Luis Marin Perez
200 > From: uh...@fantomas.sk > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: Problems with high spam > > On 22.09.09 15:02, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: > > Thank you for your answers > > > > Qmail-Smtpd have the following RBL configured: > >

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 22.09.09 15:02, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: > Thank you for your answers > > Qmail-Smtpd have the following RBL configured: > > bl.spamcop.net > cbl.abuseat.org > combined.njabl.org combined.njabl.org used to include dynablock.njabl.org which was imported spamhaus PBL. Now it's equal t

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-22 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! Also consider the invalument block lists, see http://dnsbl.invaluement.com/ A very, very good list that is usable for blocking. Not free, but very affordable. I don't like how involvement does their pricing structure, actually. Firstly, I don't feel comfortable telling a 3rd party how ma

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-22 Thread Aaron Wolfe
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:21 PM, LuKreme wrote: > On 22-Sep-2009, at 14:42, Aaron Wolfe wrote: > >> Also consider the invalument block lists, see >> http://dnsbl.invaluement.com/ >> A very, very good list that is usable for blocking. Not free, but >> very affordable. >> > > I don't like how inv

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-22 Thread LuKreme
On 22-Sep-2009, at 14:42, Aaron Wolfe wrote: Also consider the invalument block lists, see http://dnsbl.invaluement.com/ A very, very good list that is usable for blocking. Not free, but very affordable. I don't like how involvement does their pricing structure, actually. Firstly, I don't fe

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-22 Thread Aaron Wolfe
txt > echo "70_sare_whitelist.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net" >> > /etc/mail/spamassassin/sare-sa-update-channels.txt > echo "70_sare_whitelist_rcvd.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net" >> > /etc/mail/spamassassin/sare-sa-update-channels.txt > echo "7

RE: Problems with high spam

2009-09-22 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: echo "70_sare_highrisk.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net" >> /etc/mail/spamassassin/sare-sa-update-channels.txt Did you read the ruleset descriptions before choosing which ones to use? Inquire about rules SOUGHT http://wiki.apache.org/spamassa

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-22 Thread Bowie Bailey
Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: > Dear Sirs. > > Thank you for your answers > > Qmail-Smtpd have the following RBL configured: > > * bl.spamcop.net > cbl.abuseat.org > combined.njabl.org > * You might want to try zen.spamhaus.org. That is the only one I trust enough to block mail on my MTA. > These

RE: Problems with high spam

2009-09-22 Thread Jose Luis Marin Perez
t;> /etc/mail/spamassassin/sare-sa-update-channels.txt echo "72_sare_bml_post25x.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net" >> /etc/mail/spamassassin/sare-sa-update-channels.txt echo "72_sare_redirect_post3.0.0.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net" >> /etc/mail/spamassassin/sare-sa-upda

RE: Problems with high spam

2009-09-22 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: I'll gather some examples of emails that my users are considered as SPAM (Latest I could configure SA to display the report in the headers) Regarding the questions: 1. Yes I have set up qmail-smtpd to use rblsmtpd and definitively blocks a

RE: Problems with high spam

2009-09-22 Thread Jose Luis Marin Perez
t of mails before the SA can analyze. 2. I am using any third-party SA. But I will install now. Thanks for your reply Jose Luis > Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:00:12 -0700 > From: jhar...@impsec.org > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > CC: aawo...@gmail.com > Subject: RE: Pro

RE: Problems with high spam

2009-09-22 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: Additionally I noticed that there are emails that should detect as SPAM (for example those of 100 points - Advertising) but not filtered. What more could add or remove the configuration of the SA? First we need to see why they aren't being sc

RE: Problems with high spam

2009-09-22 Thread Jose Luis Marin Perez
Jose Luis > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:36:24 -0400 > Subject: Re: Problems with high spam > From: aawo...@gmail.com > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Martin Gregorie wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 09:58 -0500, Jose Luis Marin Pere

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-21 Thread Aaron Wolfe
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Martin Gregorie wrote: > On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 09:58 -0500, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: > >> I will implement improvements in the configuration  suggested and >> observe the results, however, that more could be suggested to improve >> my spam service? >> > I thin

RE: Problems with high spam

2009-09-21 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 09:58 -0500, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: > I will implement improvements in the configuration suggested and > observe the results, however, that more could be suggested to improve > my spam service? > I think you need to find out more about where your system resources are

RE: Problems with high spam

2009-09-21 Thread Jose Luis Marin Perez
used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 501284216 0 24 41 -/+ buffers/cache:218282 Swap: 1027 59968 Thanks for your time and support. Jose Luis > Subject: Re: Problems with high s

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-21 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> > also if using amavisd make its temp dir on ram speed up scanning and it > > considered safe, mta have it on disk for the backup :) On 19.09.09 00:56, MySQL Student wrote: > How about mounting /var with noatime? Does anyone do that? Do you > think it helps? What Linux filesystem is best suited

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-19 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sat, 2009-09-19 at 02:23 -0400, Aaron Wolfe wrote: > 2009/9/18 Karsten Bräckelmann: > > This machine NEEDS more RAM. In fact, I'd guess half of the spam > > slipping through is due to timeouts. Thrashing into hell. > > throwing ram at a server is not a solution in this case. 512MB is > suffici

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-18 Thread Aaron Wolfe
2009/9/18 Karsten Bräckelmann : > On Sat, 2009-09-19 at 09:48 +1200, Jason Haar wrote: >> On 09/19/2009 09:13 AM, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: >> > For more than 1 emails a day how much memory should be the server? >> > as one can calculate the amount of memory needed? >> >> 10,000 a day means

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-18 Thread MySQL Student
Hi, > also if using amavisd make its temp dir on ram speed up scanning and it > considered safe, mta have it on disk for the backup :) How about mounting /var with noatime? Does anyone do that? Do you think it helps? What Linux filesystem is best suited for this? ext4? Thanks, Alex

RE: Problems with high spam

2009-09-18 Thread Benny Pedersen
On lør 19 sep 2009 00:27:00 CEST, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote Think increasing to 2 GB of RAM is enough? 2M ram is enough if it does not swap :=) more ram is nice what ever you like to do, but what it counts is if it swasps you need more ram, even if you have 2G or more, it does not make

RE: Problems with high spam

2009-09-18 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 18:24 -0500, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: > > > Voy analizar cada entrada de whitelist_from > > > > Pardon? That doesn't parse here... ;) > > Sorry :-) > > I analyze each entry whitelist_from OK, and you should. They are almost free passes for any spam forging those addr

RE: Problems with high spam

2009-09-18 Thread Jose Luis Marin Perez
Thanks for the answers > Subject: RE: Problems with high spam > From: guent...@rudersport.de > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:45:23 +0200 > > On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 17:27 -0500, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: > > > > > > 512 MB R

RE: Problems with high spam

2009-09-18 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 17:27 -0500, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: > > > > > 512 MB Ram > > > > > > > > Ouch -- that server could go with some RAM, don't you think? No hard > > > > numbers, but given your 10k+ messages a day, I guess that's about the > > > > bare minimum. > > > > > > > > Oh, you men

RE: Problems with high spam

2009-09-18 Thread Jose Luis Marin Perez
Thanks for the answers > Subject: RE: Problems with high spam > From: guent...@rudersport.de > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:45:22 +0200 > > On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 16:13 -0500, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: > > > > 512 MB Ram > >

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-18 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sat, 2009-09-19 at 09:48 +1200, Jason Haar wrote: > On 09/19/2009 09:13 AM, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: > > For more than 1 emails a day how much memory should be the server? > > as one can calculate the amount of memory needed? > > 10,000 a day means you are running a "real" mail server (

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-18 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
> > skip_rbl_checks 1 > > You *disabled* DNS BL checks. Enabling them should drastically improve > results. You'd likely want a local, caching nameserver. More details. What DNS server do you use? Your ISPs one? You should check the test-points for URIBL and SpamHaus (the latter after enabling R

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-18 Thread Jason Haar
On 09/19/2009 09:13 AM, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: > > For more than 1 emails a day how much memory should be the server? > as one can calculate the amount of memory needed? > 10,000 a day means you are running a "real" mail server (ie not just for your home), as such you really need a "real

RE: Problems with high spam

2009-09-18 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 16:13 -0500, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: > > > 512 MB Ram > > > > Ouch -- that server could go with some RAM, don't you think? No hard > > numbers, but given your 10k+ messages a day, I guess that's about the > > bare minimum. > > > > Oh, you mentioned yesterday running Cla

RE: Problems with high spam

2009-09-18 Thread Jose Luis Marin Perez
Dear Sirs, Thanks for your answers. > Subject: Re: Problems with high spam > From: guent...@rudersport.de > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:41:31 +0200 > > On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 13:51 -0500, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: > > I have th

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-18 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 16:38 -0400, Dan Schaefer wrote: > Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > > However, I'm pretty sure he merely describes a rule named "is", which is > > non-fatal. > > I added that line to my config and ran spamassassin --lint and > received the following error: So did I, to back up

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-18 Thread Dan Schaefer
Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 16:06 -0400, Dan Schaefer wrote: Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: body ELLE /is this ELLE/ describe is this ELLE Publicidad score ELLE 10.0 It appears that you are missing ELLE after describe. If you have spelling/format issues in you

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-18 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 16:06 -0400, Dan Schaefer wrote: > Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: > > > > body ELLE /is this ELLE/ > > describe is this ELLE Publicidad > > score ELLE 10.0 > > It appears that you are missing ELLE after describe. If you have > spelling/format issues in your configuration, SA

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-18 Thread Dan Schaefer
Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: * **body ELLE /is this ELLE/ describe is this ELLE Publicidad score ELLE 10.0* It appears that you are missing ELLE after describe. If you have spelling/format issues in your configuration, SA may not work at all. Run "spamassassin --lint" to see if you have any wa

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-18 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 13:51 -0500, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: > I have the problem that many SPAM emails being filtered to the mail > box users, who might that be? > > These are the statistics from yesterday: > Although filters 54% of users are reporting much SPAM About half of the mail in-