Re: why does SA without autolearn need bayes read-write?

2015-01-27 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 27.01.15 03:01, Reindl Harald wrote: with "bayes_auto_learn 0" there is no reason to lock the bayes database and the spamd-service should be happy with "ReadOnlyDirectories=/var/lib" the bayes databaase contains not only tokens, but also timestamps used for expiration. That's why you need t

why does SA without autolearn need bayes read-write?

2015-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald
: spamd: result: . 0 - ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_50,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD scantime=0.5,size=804,user=sa-milt,uid=189,required_score=5.5,rhost=localhost,raddr=127.0.0.1,rport=20782,mid=<54c6ef78.8090...@testserver.rhsoft.net>,bayes=0.40,autolearn=disabled signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-09 Thread Axb
On 09/09/2014 03:50 PM, Alex Regan wrote: Hi, Did you understand that all tokens are learned, regardless whether they have been seen before? That doesn't really matter from a user perspective, though, right? I mean, if there are tokens that have already been learned are learned again, the net

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-09 Thread Alex Regan
Hi, Did you understand that all tokens are learned, regardless whether they have been seen before? That doesn't really matter from a user perspective, though, right? I mean, if there are tokens that have already been learned are learned again, the net result is zero. Very much not zero. Each

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-09 Thread Alex Regan
Hi, Please use plain-text rather than HTML. In particular with that really bad indentation format of quoting. It doesn't seem possible with gmail directly any longer, so I've set up thunderbird for this. Maybe it is, but not after clicking around in the obvious places. It's possible. A li

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-08 Thread Amir Caspi
On Sep 8, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Alex Regan wrote: >> Please use plain-text rather than HTML. In particular with that really >> bad indentation format of quoting. > > It doesn't seem possible with gmail directly any longer, so I've set up > thunderbird for this. Maybe it is, but not after clicking a

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-08 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 8 Sep 2014, Alex Regan wrote: Did you understand that the number of previously not seen tokens has absolutely nothing to do with auto-learning? Yes, that was a mistake. Did you understand that all tokens are learned, regardless whether they have been seen before? That doesn't reall

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-08 Thread Alex Regan
age? spamassassin -D learn Unsurprisingly, the -D debug option shows information on that decision. In this case limiting debug output to the 'learn' area comes in handy, eliminating the noise. The output includes the important details like auto-learn decision with human readable e

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-06 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
e using the respective > > non-Bayes scoreset. > > Very helpful, thanks. Is there a way to see more about how it makes that > decision on a particular message? spamassassin -D learn Unsurprisingly, the -D debug option shows information on that decision. In this case limit

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-06 Thread Alex
Hi, On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 23:50 -0400, Alex wrote: > > > > > I looked in the quarantined message, and according to the _TOKEN_ > > > > header I've added: > > > > > > > > X-Spam-MyReport: Tokens: new, 47; hammy, 7; neutral, 54; spammy,

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-04 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 23:50 -0400, Alex wrote: > > > I looked in the quarantined message, and according to the _TOKEN_ > > > header I've added: > > > > > > X-Spam-MyReport: Tokens: new, 47; hammy, 7; neutral, 54; spammy, 16. > > > > > > Isn't that sufficient for auto-learning this message as spa

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-03 Thread Alex
, RCVD_IN_UCEPROTECT2=0.01, RDNS_NONE=0.793, > > RELAYCOUNTRY_CN=0.1, RELAYCOUNTRY_HIGH=0.5, SAGREY=0.01] autolearn=no > > autolearn_force=no > > > > I've re-read the autolearn section of the docs, > > The one I linked to above? Yes, and the FAQ entry regarding reasons why aut

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-02 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2014-09-02 at 21:16 -0600, LuKreme wrote: > On 02 Sep 2014, at 20:50 , Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > > On Tue, 2014-09-02 at 20:22 -0600, LuKreme wrote: > >> I believe the score threshold is the base score WITHOUT bayes. > >> > >> Try running the email through with a -D flag and see what

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-02 Thread LuKreme
On 02 Sep 2014, at 20:50 , Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > On Tue, 2014-09-02 at 20:22 -0600, LuKreme wrote: >> On 02 Sep 2014, at 19:11 , Alex wrote: >> >>> However, spam with scores greater than 9.0 aren't being autolearned: >> >> I believe the score threshold is the base score WITHOUT bayes.

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-02 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2014-09-02 at 20:22 -0600, LuKreme wrote: > On 02 Sep 2014, at 19:11 , Alex wrote: > > > However, spam with scores greater than 9.0 aren't being autolearned: > > I believe the score threshold is the base score WITHOUT bayes. > > Try running the email through with a -D flag and see what

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-02 Thread LuKreme
On 02 Sep 2014, at 19:11 , Alex wrote: > However, spam with scores greater than 9.0 aren't being autolearned: I believe the score threshold is the base score WITHOUT bayes. Try running the email through with a -D flag and see what you get. (And that is only a partial answer, the threshold num

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-02 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
01, RDNS_NONE=0.793, > RELAYCOUNTRY_CN=0.1, RELAYCOUNTRY_HIGH=0.5, SAGREY=0.01] autolearn=no > autolearn_force=no > > I've re-read the autolearn section of the docs, The one I linked to above? > and don't see any reason why this 16-point email wouldn't have any new &g

Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-02 Thread Alex
BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.347, RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT=1.449, RCVD_IN_PSBL=2.3, RCVD_IN_UCEPROTECT1=0.01, RCVD_IN_UCEPROTECT2=0.01, RDNS_NONE=0.793, RELAYCOUNTRY_CN=0.1, RELAYCOUNTRY_HIGH=0.5, SAGREY=0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no I've re-read the autolearn section of the docs, and don't see any

Re: use_auto_learn 0 but then autolearn=ham

2013-05-17 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
Please do not reply to a list post, if you want to start a new topic. Merely removing the quoted body and changing the Subject does not make it a new thread. On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 07:57 -0700, Cathryn Mataga wrote: > use_bayes 1 > use_auto_learn 0 Try running 'spamassassin --lint'. > But

use_auto_learn 0 but then autolearn=ham

2013-05-17 Thread Cathryn Mataga
,SPF_HELO_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Received: from ecuador.junglevision.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ecuador.junglevision.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r4HD4xMW030941 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 17

No RBL checks - was - Re: score 0 autolearn=ham

2012-11-06 Thread Joseph Acquisto
>>> On 11/5/2012 at 6:44 PM, "Joseph Acquisto" wrote: On 11/5/2012 at 10:34 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote: >> On 11/4/2012 10:10 PM, Joseph Acquisto wrote: >> On 11/4/2012 at 4:09 PM, Jari Fredriksson wrote: 04.11.2012 22:33, Joseph Acquisto kirjoitti: > I'd love to use RBL but unders

Re: score 0 autolearn=ham

2012-11-05 Thread Joseph Acquisto
>>> On 11/5/2012 at 10:34 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote: > On 11/4/2012 10:10 PM, Joseph Acquisto wrote: > On 11/4/2012 at 4:09 PM, Jari Fredriksson wrote: >>> 04.11.2012 22:33, Joseph Acquisto kirjoitti: I'd love to use RBL but understand I can't, as the "last IP" is always the >>> same, as I

Re: score 0 autolearn=ham

2012-11-05 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 11/4/2012 10:10 PM, Joseph Acquisto wrote: On 11/4/2012 at 4:09 PM, Jari Fredriksson wrote: 04.11.2012 22:33, Joseph Acquisto kirjoitti: I'd love to use RBL but understand I can't, as the "last IP" is always the same, as I fetch all mail from a single POP.Perhaps I am missing somethin

Re: score 0 autolearn=ham

2012-11-04 Thread Joseph Acquisto
>>> On 11/4/2012 at 7:10 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote: > On Sun, 2012-11-04 at 15:33 -0500, Joseph Acquisto wrote: >> >>> On 11/4/2012 at 8:34 AM, Martin Gregorie wrote: >> > On Sun, 2012-11-04 at 07:55 -0500, Joseph Acquisto wrote: >> >> >>> On 11/3/2012 at 9:15 PM, "Joseph Acquisto" >> >> >>> wr

Re: score 0 autolearn=ham

2012-11-04 Thread Joseph Acquisto
>>> On 11/4/2012 at 4:09 PM, Jari Fredriksson wrote: > 04.11.2012 22:33, Joseph Acquisto kirjoitti: >> I'd love to use RBL but understand I can't, as the "last IP" is always the > same, as I fetch all mail >> from a single POP.Perhaps I am missing something? > Yes. You put that "single POP" E

Re: score 0 autolearn=ham

2012-11-04 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Sun, 2012-11-04 at 15:33 -0500, Joseph Acquisto wrote: > >>> On 11/4/2012 at 8:34 AM, Martin Gregorie wrote: > > On Sun, 2012-11-04 at 07:55 -0500, Joseph Acquisto wrote: > >> >>> On 11/3/2012 at 9:15 PM, "Joseph Acquisto" > >> >>> wrote: > >> > Why do these score 0 ? > >> > > >> > http://pa

Re: score 0 autolearn=ham

2012-11-04 Thread Jari Fredriksson
04.11.2012 22:33, Joseph Acquisto kirjoitti: > I'd love to use RBL but understand I can't, as the "last IP" is always the > same, as I fetch all mail > from a single POP.Perhaps I am missing something? Yes. You put that "single POP" ESP address to your "trusted networks". Then it works as desi

Re: score 0 autolearn=ham

2012-11-04 Thread Joseph Acquisto
>>> On 11/4/2012 at 8:34 AM, Martin Gregorie wrote: > On Sun, 2012-11-04 at 07:55 -0500, Joseph Acquisto wrote: >> >>> On 11/3/2012 at 9:15 PM, "Joseph Acquisto" wrote: >> > Why do these score 0 ? >> > >> > http://pastebin.com/U4zFu8wk >> > http://pastebin.com/MV9KbnbU >> > I ran the second o

Re: score 0 autolearn=ham

2012-11-04 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Sun, 2012-11-04 at 07:55 -0500, Joseph Acquisto wrote: > >>> On 11/3/2012 at 9:15 PM, "Joseph Acquisto" wrote: > > Why do these score 0 ? > > > > http://pastebin.com/U4zFu8wk > > http://pastebin.com/MV9KbnbU > I ran the second one through my testing SA system: it got hits from several black

Re: score 0 autolearn=ham

2012-11-04 Thread Joseph Acquisto
>>> On 11/3/2012 at 9:15 PM, "Joseph Acquisto" wrote: > Why do these score 0 ? > > http://pastebin.com/U4zFu8wk > http://pastebin.com/MV9KbnbU Two more this AM. I did not bother posting these, they're virtually identical. Pastebin will expire the evening. Obvious SPAM/MAlware. I had once

Re: autolearn

2012-10-21 Thread Joseph Acquisto
. . . > Joe, what exactly do you mean below when you describe the message? The > subject was only a FTP link (which the hits suggest is not the case)? Or > the subject was empty and the body was only a FTP link? > > Perhaps SA should only autolearn when the body of the

Re: autolearn

2012-10-21 Thread John Hardin
a FTP link? Perhaps SA should only autolearn when the body of the message is some minimum size, to avoid mislearning on spams like this? On 10/21, Joseph Acquisto wrote: Today I found a missed SPAM that contained this in the header: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,MISSI

Re: autolearn

2012-10-21 Thread darxus
atus: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,MISSING_SUBJECT, > T_DKIM_INVALID,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 > > The subject was empty with a link starting with "ftp:" > > I guess it's the autolearn that is most puzzling me. > > joe a. &

Re: autolearn

2012-10-21 Thread Joseph Acquisto
IL_FROM,MISSING_SUBJECT, >> T_DKIM_INVALID,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 >> >> The subject was empty with a link starting with "ftp:" >> >> I guess it's the autolearn that is most puzzling me. > > What is your "bayes_auto_learn_thr

Re: autolearn

2012-10-21 Thread Mikael Syska
Hi, On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Joseph Acquisto wrote: > Today I found a missed SPAM that contained this in the header: > > X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,MISSING_SUBJECT, > T_DKIM_INVALID,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 > > The

autolearn

2012-10-21 Thread Joseph Acquisto
Today I found a missed SPAM that contained this in the header: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,MISSING_SUBJECT, T_DKIM_INVALID,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 The subject was empty with a link starting with "ftp:" I guess it's the aut

Re: Bayes now changed to autolearn=unavailable.

2012-02-27 Thread RW
On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:17:49 +0100 Simon Loewenthal wrote: > >> BAYES_00 and BAYES_99 hit on other ham/spam without any problem. > >> Only then the result will mention autolearn=disabled instead of > >> autolearn=unavailable. I don't follow why it w

Re: Bayes now changed to autolearn=unavailable.

2012-02-27 Thread Simon Loewenthal
ham on a server because Bayes >>>> seems reasonably well trained. It works well. >>>> >>>> I noticed that emails that did not hit BAYES_00 (so no shortcircuit) >>>> were not autolearnt by SA. Even though these were well below the >>>> autol

Re: Bayes now changed to autolearn=unavailable.

2012-02-27 Thread Simon Loewenthal
It works well. >>> >>> I noticed that emails that did not hit BAYES_00 (so no shortcircuit) >>> were not autolearnt by SA. Even though these were well below the >>> autolearn threshold of -1. >>> >>> In the example below, the score was -7.8. Be

Re: Bayes now changed to autolearn=unavailable.

2012-02-27 Thread Simon Loewenthal
not hit BAYES_00 (so no shortcircuit) >> were not autolearnt by SA. Even though these were well below the >> autolearn threshold of -1. >> >> In the example below, the score was -7.8. Below this, the bayes >> settings in the local.cf are listed. A score of beneath -1 should

Re: Bayes now changed to autolearn=unavailable.

2012-02-27 Thread RW
SA. Even though these were well below the > autolearn threshold of -1. > > In the example below, the score was -7.8. Below this, the bayes > settings in the local.cf are listed. A score of beneath -1 should > have been autolearnt. > > No, score=-7.8 required=

Re: Bayes now changed to autolearn=unavailable.

2012-02-27 Thread Michael Scheidell
On 2/27/12 5:48 AM, Simon Loewenthal wrote: seems reasonably well trained. It works well. I noticed that emails that did not hit BAYES_00 (so no shortcircuit) were not autolearnt by SA. Even though these were well below the autolearn threshold of -1. In the example below, the score was -7.8

Bayes now changed to autolearn=unavailable.

2012-02-27 Thread Simon Loewenthal
Good morning everyone, Recently I enabled shortcircuit for ham on a server because Bayes seems reasonably well trained. It works well. I noticed that emails that did not hit BAYES_00 (so no shortcircuit) were not autolearnt by SA. Even though these were well below the autolearn threshold of

Re: autolearn Re: major upgrade of spamassassin

2011-05-26 Thread Bowie Bailey
ndary MX for one of our two domains). > > It is catching and quarantining some spam (so far all ham is still > transiting through the primary MX) and we see that in the header > X-Spam-Status keyword, which has changed format, there is at the end > one of these > > autolea

autolearn Re: major upgrade of spamassassin

2011-05-26 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
still transiting through the primary MX) and we see that in the header X-Spam-Status keyword, which has changed format, there is at the end one of these autolearn=unavailable autolearn=no autolearn=spam The first one seems to occur for very high score spam, the second for

Re: "autolearn=ham" was wrong, howto retrain ?

2011-04-04 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 04.04.11 10:34, Andreas Schulze wrote: > > -forget Forget a message > > I do > sa-learn --forget ; sa-learn --spam > right ? you don't need to forget the message. Learning it again will do change values properly. -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, uh...@fantomas.sk ; http://www.fantom

Re: "autolearn=ham" was wrong, howto retrain ?

2011-04-04 Thread Andreas Schulze
Hi, > -forget Forget a message I do sa-learn --forget ; sa-learn --spam right ? -- Viele Grüße Andreas Schulze

Re: "autolearn=ham" was wrong, howto retrain ?

2011-04-04 Thread Yet Another Ninja
=[HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MTX_NONE=0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on andreasschulze.de How can I tell SA this was spam ? I would try "sa-learn -spam But does this let SA really forget the "previous

"autolearn=ham" was wrong, howto retrain ?

2011-04-04 Thread Andreas Schulze
, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on andreasschulze.de How can I tell SA this was spam ? I would try "sa-learn -spam But does this let SA really forget the "previous state ham" ? Thanks, Andreas

Re: autolearn : lock_file

2010-09-21 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 14:45 +0200, Cédric Jeanneret wrote: > On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:42:22 -0400, Randy Ramsdell wrote: > > Cédric Jeanneret wrote: > >> Sep 20 12:25:06 hostname spamd[6157]: plugin: eval failed: bayes: (in > >> learn) locker: safe_lock: cannot create tmp lockfile > >> /home/USER/.s

Re: autolearn : lock_file

2010-09-21 Thread Benny Pedersen
On tir 21 sep 2010 14:45:59 CEST, Cédric Jeanneret wrote So, is there a way to say to SA "Hey man, don't go in /home/ but in // instead!" ? and poison ones linux box :) if virtual is so hard use sql -- xpoint http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

Re: autolearn : lock_file

2010-09-21 Thread Cédric Jeanneret
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:42:22 -0400, Randy Ramsdell wrote: > Cédric Jeanneret wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I have an error with SA using autolearn plugin: >> Sep 20 12:25:06 hostname spamd[6157]: plugin: eval failed: bayes: (in >> learn) locker: safe_lock: cannot

Re: autolearn : lock_file

2010-09-20 Thread Randy Ramsdell
Cédric Jeanneret wrote: Hello, I have an error with SA using autolearn plugin: Sep 20 12:25:06 hostname spamd[6157]: plugin: eval failed: bayes: (in learn) locker: safe_lock: cannot create tmp lockfile /home/USER/.spamassassin/bayes.lock.host.domain.ltd.6157 for /home/USER/.spamassassin

Re: autolearn : lock_file

2010-09-20 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010, Cédric Jeanneret wrote: I have an error with SA using autolearn plugin: Sep 20 12:25:06 hostname spamd[6157]: plugin: eval failed: bayes: (in learn) locker: safe_lock: cannot create tmp lockfile /home/USER/.spamassassin/bayes.lock.host.domain.ltd.6157 for /home/USER

autolearn : lock_file

2010-09-20 Thread Cédric Jeanneret
Hello, I have an error with SA using autolearn plugin: Sep 20 12:25:06 hostname spamd[6157]: plugin: eval failed: bayes: (in learn) locker: safe_lock: cannot create tmp lockfile /home/USER/.spamassassin/bayes.lock.host.domain.ltd.6157 for /home/USER/.spamassassin/bayes.lock: Permission denied Is

Re: [configuration] handle_user and autolearn

2010-09-09 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010, Cédric Jeanneret wrote: I'm using spamassassin for some weeks, and all is working fine. I just have two questions: 1. While checking my logs, I find this string each time a mail is filtered: Sep 9 10:59:45 HOSTNAME spamd[3126]: spamd: handle_user unable to find user: 'USER

[configuration] handle_user and autolearn

2010-09-09 Thread Cédric Jeanneret
now what to do to prevent this error. I fgrep-ed into spamassassin configuration, there seems to be no mention of a user configuration. 2. While checking mail headers, I see autolearn=unavailable in X-Spam-Status header. Is autolearn a good thing ? I have a script running once a day on my spa

Re: Enable autolearn for certain shortcircuits

2010-04-12 Thread Daniel Lemke
> Hmm, so it's not possible to use a tflag for telling bayes to learn >> the message? What else can I do? > > I'm not familiar with how scores work under short-circuiting, but I > would imagine that auto-learning would work if you simply define > neither flag, i.e.

Re: Enable autolearn for certain shortcircuits

2010-04-12 Thread RW
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 04:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Daniel Lemke wrote: > > > RW-15 wrote: > > > > > > The default is learn, not noautolearn - either prevents autoleaning. > > > > > > Hmm, so it's not possible to use a tflag for telling bayes to learn > the message? What else can I do? I'm not famil

Re: Enable autolearn for certain shortcircuits

2010-04-12 Thread Daniel Lemke
RW-15 wrote: > > > The default is learn, not noautolearn - either prevents autoleaning. > > Hmm, so it's not possible to use a tflag for telling bayes to learn the message? What else can I do? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Enable-a

Re: Enable autolearn for certain shortcircuits

2010-04-12 Thread RW
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 00:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Daniel Lemke wrote: > > Hi, > > I'd like to enable bayes auto learn for a specific shortcircuit rule. > This is what I've got: > > shortcircuit BAYES_00 on > score BAYES_00 -50 > tflags BAYES_00 learn > > It's declared in site wide local.cf. A test sho

Enable autolearn for certain shortcircuits

2010-04-12 Thread Daniel Lemke
he "noautolearn" flag. I added the "learn" tflag instead, same result: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-50.0, required=5.0, autolearn=disabled, shortcircuit=BAYES_00 (ham) X-Spam-Report: * -0.0 SHORTCIRCUIT SHORTCIRCUIT * [score: 0.] * -50 BAYES

Re: Exclude Sender from Autolearn

2010-03-11 Thread RW
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:41:39 -0500 Jason Bertoch wrote: > On 2010/03/11 9:10 AM, RW wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:41:06 -0500 > > Jason Bertoch wrote: > > > > > >> For what it's worth, whitelisted addresses are excluded from Bayes > >> a

Re: Exclude Sender from Autolearn

2010-03-11 Thread Jason Bertoch
On 2010/03/11 9:10 AM, RW wrote: On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:41:06 -0500 Jason Bertoch wrote: For what it's worth, whitelisted addresses are excluded from Bayes autolearn. No, they can be autolearned. The autolearn plugin computes it's own version of the score that ignores noautol

Re: Exclude Sender from Autolearn

2010-03-11 Thread idahank
7;s users receive quarantine Emails from other >> providers >> that contain lots of spam-tokens without being spam. As different rules >> detect these mails as spam it is accidently learned as spam by autolearn. >> Whitelisting ist no option as it only puts a ham bonus of 100 po

Re: Exclude Sender from Autolearn

2010-03-11 Thread RW
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:41:06 -0500 Jason Bertoch wrote: > For what it's worth, whitelisted addresses are excluded from Bayes > autolearn. No, they can be autolearned. The autolearn plugin computes it's own version of the score that ignores noautolearn rules.

Re: Exclude Sender from Autolearn

2010-03-11 Thread Jason Bertoch
etect these mails as spam it is accidently learned as spam by autolearn. Whitelisting ist no option as it only puts a ham bonus of 100 points to the mail. Consequently spam tokens in these mails would be wrongly learned as ham by autolearn. A work around could be to detect these mail and let them be forg

Exclude Sender from Autolearn

2010-03-11 Thread idahank
arned as spam by autolearn. Whitelisting ist no option as it only puts a ham bonus of 100 points to the mail. Consequently spam tokens in these mails would be wrongly learned as ham by autolearn. A work around could be to detect these mail and let them be forgotten. Is there a way within spamass

Re: autolearn not working

2009-07-02 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
h Bayes. > We see that with -98.7 points and option > "bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam -10", > but "autolearn=no". Why? 20_compensate.cf: tflags ALL_TRUSTED nice userconf tflags userconf rules are ignored for auto-learning [1]. Thus, as far as the AutoLea

Re: autolearn not working

2009-07-02 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, July 2, 2009 08:43, Trushin Igor wrote: > We see that with -98.7 points and option > "bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam -10", > but "autolearn=no". Why? why learn anything from trusted ip ? -- xpoint

autolearn not working

2009-07-01 Thread Trushin Igor
=localhost,raddr=127.0.0.1,rport=60081,mid=<569856404.20090702121...@xxx..xx>,autolearn=no We see that with -98.7 points and option "bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam -10", but "autolearn=no". Why?

Re: SAs vbounce and autolearn

2009-01-22 Thread Michael Scheidell
99 too high??? :-[ (amavisd as a 'bounce_killer_score' that is 100 in the amavisd.conf-dist). does something similar. Justin Mason wrote: have you changed the score of the vbounce rules from 0.1? this is why you shouldn't ;) --j. On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 16:51, Michael Scheidell wrote:

Re: SAs vbounce and autolearn

2009-01-22 Thread Justin Mason
have you changed the score of the vbounce rules from 0.1? this is why you shouldn't ;) --j. On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 16:51, Michael Scheidell wrote: > Just found out why, all of a sudden, users who never got blocked, now are > getting blocked. > > Christmas, these brilliant people set up 'I am o

SAs vbounce and autolearn

2009-01-22 Thread Michael Scheidell
Just found out why, all of a sudden, users who never got blocked, now are getting blocked. Christmas, these brilliant people set up 'I am out of the office' messages, which spamassassin 'vbounce' sees as a 'bounce'. (seriously, is a OOO backscatter?) if you don't set tflags noautolearn on you

Re: bayes autolearn off but journal updated

2009-01-22 Thread Justin Mason
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:05, Paweł Sasin wrote: >> >>> Yes, more specifically, it's mostly going to be updating the >> >>> "atime", or time of last access, records for tokens. This time is >> >>> used by the expiry process to drop the least recently used tokens. >> >>> >> >> >> >> What does SA d

Re: bayes autolearn off but journal updated

2009-01-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> >> On 20.01.09 19:45, Matt Kettler wrote: > >>> Yes, more specifically, it's mostly going to be updating the "atime", or > >>> time of last access, records for tokens. This time is used by the expiry > >>> process to drop the least recently used tokens. > > Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > >> Wha

Re: bayes autolearn off but journal updated

2009-01-22 Thread Paweł Sasin
> >>> Yes, more specifically, it's mostly going to be updating the > >>> "atime", or time of last access, records for tokens. This time is > >>> used by the expiry process to drop the least recently used tokens. > >>> > >> > >> What does SA do, if it can't r/w open bayes database? Will it skip > >>

Re: bayes autolearn off but journal updated

2009-01-22 Thread Justin Mason
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 02:48, Matt Kettler wrote: > Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: >> >> On 20.01.09 19:45, Matt Kettler wrote: >> >>> Yes, more specifically, it's mostly going to be updating the "atime", or >>> time of last access, records for tokens. This time is used by the expiry >>> process t

Re: bayes autolearn off but journal updated

2009-01-21 Thread Matt Kettler
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > On 20.01.09 19:45, Matt Kettler wrote: > >> Yes, more specifically, it's mostly going to be updating the "atime", or >> time of last access, records for tokens. This time is used by the expiry >> process to drop the least recently used tokens. >> > > What d

Re: bayes autolearn off but journal updated

2009-01-21 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 04:49:12PM +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > >> Why does it update the journal? Why does it try to open journal in R/W > >> mode? > Theo Van Dinter wrote: > > $ man sa-learn Oh, sorry for missing that in docs :( > > In other words, the journal isn't just

Re: bayes autolearn off but journal updated

2009-01-20 Thread Matt Kettler
Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 04:49:12PM +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > >> Why does it update the journal? Why does it try to open journal in R/W mode? >> > > $ man sa-learn > [...] >bayes_journal >While SpamAssassin is scanning mails, it needs

Re: bayes autolearn off but journal updated

2009-01-20 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 04:49:12PM +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > Why does it update the journal? Why does it try to open journal in R/W mode? $ man sa-learn [...] bayes_journal While SpamAssassin is scanning mails, it needs to track which tokens it uses in its cal-

bayes autolearn off but journal updated

2009-01-20 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Hello, on my systems I turned bayes filter off by default: cd /etc/mail/spamassassin/ grep bayes * local.cf:use_bayes 0 local.cf:bayes_auto_learn 0 local.cf:bayes_auto_expire 0 local.cf:bayes_learn_to_journal 1 ...I keep the journal default so any user who turns on bayes, would use journalling

RE: autolearn=yes but sa-learn dump magic shows no new spam

2008-08-01 Thread Brett Millett
essage- From: Duane Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 4:27 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: autolearn=yes but sa-learn dump magic shows no new spam On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, Brett Millett wrote: > I've been googling quite a bit today to find the ans

RE: autolearn=yes but sa-learn dump magic shows no new spam

2008-08-01 Thread Brett Millett
the best way to do that. Did I miss something? Thanks for all who have helped. Brett -Original Message- From: Karsten Bräckelmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 3:59 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: autolearn=yes but sa-learn dump magic shows no n

Re: autolearn=yes but sa-learn dump magic shows no new spam

2008-08-01 Thread Duane Hill
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, Brett Millett wrote: I've been googling quite a bit today to find the answer to what I'm seeing that is happening on my mail server. However, I just can't seem to find a definitive answer. When looking at my mail logs I see a number of autolearn=spam, however

Re: autolearn=yes but sa-learn dump magic shows no new spam

2008-08-01 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 15:28 -0600, Brett Millett wrote: > Hi, > > I've been googling quite a bit today to find the answer to what I'm > seeing that is happening on my mail server. However, I just can't seem > to find a definitive answer. When looking at my mail logs

autolearn=yes but sa-learn dump magic shows no new spam

2008-08-01 Thread Brett Millett
Hi, I've been googling quite a bit today to find the answer to what I'm seeing that is happening on my mail server. However, I just can't seem to find a definitive answer. When looking at my mail logs I see a number of autolearn=spam, however when I run "sa-learn --dump m

Re: autolearn=unavailable

2008-03-05 Thread Matt Kettler
fchan wrote: Hi, Can someone tell me what is the cause of these "autolearn=unavailable" messages and there is a possible solution. I get them occasionally but wanted to know why are they appearing. Below is a sample of the log: Mar 5 11:42:27 s1 spamd[13422]: spamd: identified s

autolearn=unavailable

2008-03-05 Thread fchan
Hi, Can someone tell me what is the cause of these "autolearn=unavailable" messages and there is a possible solution. I get them occasionally but wanted to know why are they appearing. Below is a sample of the log: Mar 5 11:42:27 s1 spamd[13422]: spamd: identified spam (110.5

Re: autolearn vs sa-learn / Bayes

2008-02-21 Thread Diego Pomatta
Luis Hernán Otegui escribió: Hola, Diego 2008/2/21, Diego Pomatta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hello list. Does the bayes system use a separate db for the "autolearn" mode? Today I noticed that my SA bayes has 50 spam and 45 ham mails learned, when I thought the db had a l

Re: autolearn vs sa-learn / Bayes

2008-02-21 Thread Luis Hernán Otegui
Hola, Diego 2008/2/21, Diego Pomatta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello list. > > Does the bayes system use a separate db for the "autolearn" mode? > > Today I noticed that my SA bayes has 50 spam and 45 ham mails learned, > when I thought the db had a lot

autolearn vs sa-learn / Bayes

2008-02-21 Thread Diego Pomatta
Hello list. Does the bayes system use a separate db for the "autolearn" mode? Today I noticed that my SA bayes has 50 spam and 45 ham mails learned, when I thought the db had a lot more, because bayes IS being used. # sa-learn --dump magic 0.000 0 3 0

Solved: Autolearn ham?

2007-10-29 Thread Diego Pomatta
Matthias Leisi escribió: Is there any way to tweak the score used to trigger autolearning for HAM ? Diego Ah, SA version is 3.2.1 http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.2.x/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Plugin_AutoLearnThreshold.html --- cut --- The following configuration settings are used to co

Re: Autolearn ham?

2007-10-29 Thread Matthias Leisi
> Is there any way to tweak the score used to trigger autolearning for HAM ? > > Diego > Ah, SA version is 3.2.1 http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.2.x/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Plugin_AutoLearnThreshold.html --- cut --- The following configuration settings are used to control auto-learning: bay

Re: Autolearn ham?

2007-10-29 Thread Diego Pomatta
Lars Ippich escribió: Diego Pomatta schrieb: Ok, but then why is "auto-learn" learning spam, but not ham? Diego Have a look at this, maybe it explains what you are wondering about: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/AutolearningNotWorking Lars Yup. I'd read that already. It explai

Re: Autolearn ham?

2007-10-26 Thread Lars Ippich
Diego Pomatta schrieb: > Ok, but then why is "auto-learn" learning spam, but not ham? > > Diego Have a look at this, maybe it explains what you are wondering about: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/AutolearningNotWorking Lars

Re: Autolearn ham?

2007-10-26 Thread Diego Pomatta
the server. [...] So, is there any other option that needs to be set somewhere? Because I don't think that bayes is even being used at all. Maybe an autolearn ham score threshold or something like that? There is a threshold of 200 hams and 200 spams, which have to been fed to the bayes fil

Re: Autolearn ham?

2007-10-26 Thread Lars Ippich
server. > [...] > So, is there any other option that needs to be set somewhere? Because I > don't think that bayes is even being used at all. > Maybe an autolearn ham score threshold or something like that? There is a threshold of 200 hams and 200 spams, which have to been fed

Autolearn ham?

2007-10-26 Thread Diego Pomatta
Hello list! I was under the impression that autolearn was going to start self learning ham at some point, when enough messages had been processed. Checking the spamd log I see only no-learning or spam-learning. And I can't feed anything to sa-learn because we drop spam into oblivion.

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