Re: AW: AW: Getting Answers on the User List

2008-04-18 Thread János Jarecsni
hasn't crossed my mind you are. Looking forawrd to your bold answers. I have given them. Yours friendly, Rob On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Chris Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Francis (as Rob): http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-AW%3A-Getting

Re: AW: AW: Getting Answers on the User List

2008-04-18 Thread Angelo Turetta
Rob Smeets wrote: Left me alone, Tapestry should be kicked from Apache because it's destroying it's image. If it was in my power, YOU would be kicked from Apache and all their m/l. Chris, I see you constantly linking me to others. Who is that Francis? I hope he/she (since that name sounds

Re: AW: AW: Getting Answers on the User List

2008-04-18 Thread Yura Tkachenko
I hope after reading my post you won't add me to this page - http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls I really want to defend Rob :-) Since some of his points are real problems of Tapestry. I will say it again: backward compatibility. Of course major releases shouldn't be compatible, i.e.

RE: AW: AW: Getting Answers on the User List

2008-04-18 Thread Jonathan Barker
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 2:17 PM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: AW: AW: Getting Answers on the User List I hope after reading my post you won't add me to this page - http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls I really want to defend Rob :-) Since some of his points

Re: AW: AW: Getting Answers on the User List

2008-04-18 Thread Chris Lewis
Expressing dissent is not trolling. Sure one could argue that what constitutes trolling is subjective, but almost any reasonable person can discern when the line has been crossed. Francis is a lying mischievous fool that periodically chimes in in hopes of pissing off users, or scaring off newbies.

Re: AW: AW: Getting Answers on the User List

2008-04-18 Thread Yura Tkachenko
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Jonathan Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've been too active with technical issues on the list to be labeled a troll... unless Rob has a split personality and you are the side that actually knows something. Hmmm. An interesting email address, BTW,

Re: AW: AW: Getting Answers on the User List

2008-04-17 Thread Chris Lewis
Check this wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls, and then consider reporting him to the relevant abuse departments. A couple of us now know a good deal about who this person is, and I am hoping that he will consider the reputation of his actual identity and back off. chris

Re: AW: AW: Getting Answers on the User List

2008-04-17 Thread Rob Smeets
This person is beyond a troll and has gone to a concerted effort to spread FUD and mis-information Petros, I want you to take a close look at the following points I've been making and tell me which one is a misinformation. 1. Every Tapestry major release is backward incompatible with

Re: AW: AW: Getting Answers on the User List

2008-04-17 Thread Chris Lewis
Francis (as Rob): http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-AW%3A-Getting-Answers-on-the-User-List-p16679523.html ...not only are high profile Tapestry users abandoning Tapestry, high profile sites which were using Tapestry are also ditching Tapestry... - *FUD* http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Getting-Answers

Re: AW: AW: Getting Answers on the User List

2008-04-17 Thread Rob Smeets
-Getting-Answers-on-the-User-List-p16679523.html ...not only are high profile Tapestry users abandoning Tapestry, high profile sites which were using Tapestry are also ditching Tapestry... - *FUD* http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Getting-Answers-on-the-User-List-p16634215.html ...Tapestry is now

Re: AW: AW: Getting Answers on the User List

2008-04-17 Thread Chris Lewis
mind you are. Looking forawrd to your bold answers. I have given them. Yours friendly, Rob On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Chris Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Francis (as Rob): http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-AW%3A-Getting-Answers-on-the-User-List-p16679523.html ...not only

Re: AW: AW: Getting Answers on the User List

2008-04-17 Thread Rob Smeets
at 10:59 AM, Chris Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Francis (as Rob): http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-AW%3A-Getting-Answers-on-the-User-List-p16679523.html ...not only are high profile Tapestry users abandoning Tapestry, high profile sites which were using Tapestry are also ditching

Re: AW: AW: Getting Answers on the User List

2008-04-17 Thread Michael Gerzabek
] wrote: Francis (as Rob): http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-AW%3A-Getting-Answers-on-the-User-List-p16679523.html ...not only are high profile Tapestry users abandoning Tapestry, high profile sites which were using Tapestry are also ditching Tapestry... - *FUD* http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Getting

Re: AW: AW: Getting Answers on the User List

2008-04-17 Thread Onno Scheffers
I want you to take a close look at the following points I've been making and tell me which one is a misinformation. 1. Every Tapestry major release is backward incompatible with previous releases. That's true and really inconvenient. On the other hand I also complain about frameworks,

Re: AW: AW: Getting Answers on the User List

2008-04-17 Thread Lindsay Steele
1. Every Tapestry major release is backward incompatible with previous releases. Releases of many frameworks are incompatible with each other. The change from 3 to 4 was minor and with the change from 4 to 5, one can still use the same HTML templates and do a fairly good upgrade. Version

Re: AW: AW: Getting Answers on the User List

2008-04-17 Thread Thiago HP
On 4/17/08, Chris Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Smeets wrote: Chris, 1. Every Tapestry major release is backward incompatible with previous releases. This is public knowledge and documented on the Tapestry website (5 not compatible with 4). Howard has stated many times

Re: AW: AW: Getting Answers on the User List

2008-04-16 Thread Petros Petrou
I don't mean to be rude but really... WHY DO YOU GUYS EVEN REPLY TO THIS GUY Can't you see how much fun he is having. By replying to a discussion he is part of, I feel I am his puppet and my job is to keep entertaining him. This is what we are all doing by reploying to him. I am sure I am going

Re: AW: AW: Getting Answers on the User List

2008-04-16 Thread Lindsay Steele
Ignoring trolls works well with one off messages trying to get old arguments started but this case is different. This person is beyond a troll and has gone to a concerted effort to spread FUD and mis-information to the point of damaging a lot of good work. I think the people that have politely