Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-26 Fir de Conversatie Christian MICHON
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 1:46 AM, John Beckett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use the FTP server to get patches (with a Python script - very easy), and I apply them manually (easy). So I have no personal interest in the CVS or SVN distributions. However, lurking here has shown quite a bit of pain

RE: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-26 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Christian MICHON wrote: I also track vim-dev by usually doing this: downloading the patches, and seldom use CVS/SVN. The biggest trouble I see is I need to format patches/suggestions in the same way, if I do not have write commit access. OK but surely that comment is for another

Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-26 Fir de Conversatie Mike Williams
On 26/06/2008 07:50, Christian MICHON wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 1:46 AM, John Beckett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use the FTP server to get patches (with a Python script - very easy), and I apply them manually (easy). So I have no personal interest in the CVS or SVN distributions.

git for vim was: Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-26 Fir de Conversatie Milan Vancura
If you see how Bram is handling (well) vim, it has a linear development. No branches, No merge. When he moves on to the next release, the previous one does not get updated patches (it seldom happens). So actually Bram could do the whole maintainance of vim by just using git-gui (graphical

Re: git for vim was: Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-26 Fir de Conversatie Mike Williams
Sorry to rain on the git love fest going on but ... There are other options. There is no killer reason to use git over the other systems, and the need for a Cygwin base system for windows does raise the bar for Windows users - not everyone will want to have to install and maintain a Unix

Re: git for vim was: Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-26 Fir de Conversatie Christian MICHON
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to rain on the git love fest going on but ... There are other options. There is no killer reason to use git over the other systems, and the need for a Cygwin base system for windows does raise the bar for

Re: git for vim was: Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-26 Fir de Conversatie Marc Haisenko
On Thursday 26 June 2008, Mike Williams wrote: Sorry to rain on the git love fest going on but ... There are other options. There is no killer reason to use git over the other systems, and the need for a Cygwin base system for windows does raise the bar for Windows users - not everyone will

Re: git for vim was: Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-26 Fir de Conversatie Marc Haisenko
On Thursday 26 June 2008, Christian MICHON wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Marc Haisenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A major downside of SubVersion has been the missing merge-tracking but SubVersion 1.5.0 which is out for a week or so has finally closed that gap there's no branch

Re: git for vim was: Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-26 Fir de Conversatie mattn
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Christian MICHON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Marc Haisenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A major downside of SubVersion has been the missing merge-tracking but SubVersion 1.5.0 which is out for a week or so has finally closed that gap

Re: git for vim was: Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-26 Fir de Conversatie Mike Williams
On 26/06/2008 11:58, Christian MICHON wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to rain on the git love fest going on but ... There are other options. There is no killer reason to use git over the other systems, and the need for a Cygwin base

Re: git for vim was: Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-26 Fir de Conversatie Mike Williams
On 26/06/2008 12:03, Marc Haisenko wrote: On Thursday 26 June 2008, Mike Williams wrote: Sorry to rain on the git love fest going on but ... There are other options. There is no killer reason to use git over the other systems, and the need for a Cygwin base system for windows does raise

Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-26 Fir de Conversatie Tony Mechelynck
On 26/06/08 08:50, Christian MICHON wrote: [...] If you see how Bram is handling (well) vim, it has a linear development. No branches, No merge. That's not totally accurrate, see below. When he moves on to the next release, the previous one does not get updated patches (it seldom happens).

Re: git for vim was: Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-26 Fir de Conversatie Milan Vancura
Hello all, please stop one thing: some of you act as if creating git repository means deletion of CVS and SVN trees and Bram's e-mail client! I don't remember so hot discussion when SVN started (and CVS was already up) so why now? All we have done is that two of us wrote a list of advantages we

Re: git for vim was: Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-26 Fir de Conversatie George V. Reilly
2008/6/26 Milan Vancura [EMAIL PROTECTED]: please stop one thing: some of you act as if creating git repository means deletion of CVS and SVN trees and Bram's e-mail client! I don't remember so hot discussion when SVN started (and CVS was already up) so why now? MacVim is already in a git

Re: git for vim was: Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-26 Fir de Conversatie Christian MICHON
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 11:49 PM, björn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have nothing to add to this thread as a whole, but since it was brought up let me just quickly comment on the MacVim.git repository. All I am doing now is tracking the trunk of the svn repository which turns out wasn't perhaps

Re: git for vim was: Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-26 Fir de Conversatie Gautam Iyer
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 12:09:25AM +0200, Christian MICHON wrote: This thread was not useless. I'm not trying to replace or enforce things here. I'll personally use this repo later to send patches to Bram accordingly. This thread is certainly not useless! If you do set up the git repository,

Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-25 Fir de Conversatie Edward L. Fox
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Christian MICHON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] this is the exact reason why I started using git and dropped cvs/svn... now that you're putting the focus on releasing a collection of files and not tracking them individually so much anymore (you're tracking a

Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-25 Fir de Conversatie Bram Moolenaar
I wrote: There is something wrong with what CVS did to the files. Especially in runtime/tutor. Might take a day to sort out. Sigh. Why can't I just tell CVS that this is the tree of files I want to have in the repository? Well, it appears that CVS has all the files now, so you can use

Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-25 Fir de Conversatie Bram Moolenaar
Tony Mechelynck wrote: On 25/06/08 02:00, Bram Moolenaar wrote: There is something wrong with what CVS did to the files. Especially in runtime/tutor. Might take a day to sort out. Sigh. Why can't I just tell CVS that this is the tree of files I want to have in the repository?

Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-25 Fir de Conversatie Bram Moolenaar
Christian - On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:00 AM, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is something wrong with what CVS did to the files. Especially in runtime/tutor. Might take a day to sort out. Sigh. Why can't I just tell CVS that this is the tree of files I want to

Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-25 Fir de Conversatie Vladimir Marek
There is something wrong with what CVS did to the files. Especially in runtime/tutor. Might take a day to sort out. Sigh. Why can't I just tell CVS that this is the tree of files I want to have in the repository? The .tar.bz2 / .tar.gz on the Vim FTP site aren't afflicted

Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-25 Fir de Conversatie Christian MICHON
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adding another system won't solve the CVS problems. Can't just drop CVS right now, many people are using it. I would not add it. I would use it to replace them all (I'm too supportive with git, I know...) using CVS

Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-25 Fir de Conversatie Gautam Iyer
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:45:04PM +0200, Bram Moolenaar wrote: Adding another system won't solve the CVS problems. Can't just drop CVS right now, many people are using it. If you use your favourite version control system, there should be ways to automatically create the CVS repository from

Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-25 Fir de Conversatie Bram Moolenaar
Christian Michon wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adding another system won't solve the CVS problems. Can't just drop CVS right now, many people are using it. I would not add it. I would use it to replace them all (I'm too supportive

Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-25 Fir de Conversatie Gautam Iyer
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 06:14:38PM +0200, Bram Moolenaar wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adding another system won't solve the CVS problems. Can't just drop CVS right now, many people are using it. I would not add it. I would use it to

Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-25 Fir de Conversatie Mike Williams
On 25/06/2008 17:14, Bram Moolenaar wrote: Christian Michon wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adding another system won't solve the CVS problems. Can't just drop CVS right now, many people are using it. I would not add it. I would use it

Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-25 Fir de Conversatie Adam Gołębiowski
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 05:54:36PM +0100, Mike Williams wrote: Can someone use Git without installing any software? If yes, then we might be able to replace other methods. If no, then lots of people will prefer to stay with what they already have installed. Windows users wanting to use

Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-25 Fir de Conversatie Bram Moolenaar
I wrote: Tony Mechelynck wrote: On 25/06/08 02:00, Bram Moolenaar wrote: There is something wrong with what CVS did to the files. Especially in runtime/tutor. Might take a day to sort out. Sigh. Why can't I just tell CVS that this is the tree of files I want to have in

Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-25 Fir de Conversatie Bram Moolenaar
Christian Michon wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone use Git without installing any software? If yes, then we might be able to replace other methods. If no, then lots of people will prefer to stay with what they already have

Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-25 Fir de Conversatie Adam Gołębiowski
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 12:05:04AM +0200, Bram Moolenaar wrote: you'll get a tar.gz matching a particular commit or a tag (yellow boxes, useful to track releases/milestones), or even experimental branches (in green) without ever had to install git, it even works with internet explorer...

Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-25 Fir de Conversatie Gautam Iyer
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 12:05:04AM +0200, Bram Moolenaar wrote: Can someone use Git without installing any software? If yes, then we might be able to replace other methods. If no, then lots of people will prefer to stay with what they already have installed. you can get snapshots without

RE: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-25 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Gautam Iyer wrote: You can wget individual patches from git. For example: http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel. git;a=commitdiff_plain;h=0deedbcc98a831284f6e9db2510e88e90e01c 286;hp=5dd06d08015cf9c0721f34f7005ecd670025c334 I use the FTP server to get patches

Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-24 Fir de Conversatie Tony Mechelynck
On 25/06/08 02:00, Bram Moolenaar wrote: There is something wrong with what CVS did to the files. Especially in runtime/tutor. Might take a day to sort out. Sigh. Why can't I just tell CVS that this is the tree of files I want to have in the repository? The .tar.bz2 / .tar.gz on the

Re: Vim 7.2a in CVS

2008-06-24 Fir de Conversatie Christian MICHON
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:00 AM, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is something wrong with what CVS did to the files. Especially in runtime/tutor. Might take a day to sort out. Sigh. Why can't I just tell CVS that this is the tree of files I want to have in the repository?