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2015-08-05 Thread Bob Cook
RE: [Vo]:LENR on a ChipJones-- I assume that the resonances are microwave frequencies or greater, up to a frequency of infrared light. A normal resonance for NMR is in the radio wave frequency. This resonance changes with increasing B fields to reflect the differential spin energy states of

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: 2007 $5.1 trillion > 2006 $4.6 trillion *THAT SHOULD BE 2008 -- the year of the crash* > 2010 $4.7 trillion > 2014 $5.8 trillion (finally recovered) > Government income declined from $5.1 to $4.6 while government expenses went through the roof, because the government bailed out the banks

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Lennart Thornros wrote: > It cannot be true that you think there is no inflation.. > There has been very little overall inflation. Obviously, some things have gotten expensive, but others are cheaper. For example, eggs are expensive because of avian influenza. On the other hand, coal, oil and g

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2015-08-05 Thread Hauke Hein
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Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread Lennart Thornros
Jed, It cannot be true that you think there is no inflation.. What about my exampla. If there is no inflation why does the government need to increase taxes and fees?? Yes there are tendencies at deflation because of all manipulations. As I said before there is a hidden inflation. Fees and other go

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery wrote: > True the SPLC could not have acted as a legal person as it did not exist, >>> but its antecedents certainly did exist in the form of the natural person >>> who comprised it and then proceeded . . . >>> >> >> You said they had hundreds of millions of dollars. >> > > I said t

[Vo]:Fossil fuel companies are vulnerable to a small loss of business

2015-08-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Regarding this report: "Alpha Natural Resources, a Onetime Coal Giant, Files for Bankruptcy Protecton [sic]" http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/04/business/energy-environment/alpha-natural-resources-a-onetime-coal-giant-files-for-bankruptcy-protecton.html?_r=0 Below are some interesting quotes from t

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread James Bowery
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 8:22 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > James Bowery wrote: > > >> The SPLC may or may not have been directly involved in the assassination but it is clear they had the means, motive and opportunity. >>> >>> With a time machine, not doubt. MLK was assassinated in 1968. Th

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Lennart Thornros wrote: Money is not the issue. > The way they are handled and looked upon is. > As a .ashfield said there is inflation just that we use all sorts of > methods and stats to hide it. > No, there is not inflation, and if there were, there are no methods or stats that would "hide it

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery wrote: > The SPLC may or may not have been directly involved in the assassination >>> but it is clear they had the means, motive and opportunity. >>> >> >> With a time machine, not doubt. MLK was assassinated in 1968. The SPLC >> was founded in 1971. >> > > True the SPLC could not h

RE: [Vo]:LENR on a Chip

2015-08-05 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Cook * *IMHO, the changing B field creates the coupling associated with the coherent system’s spin state, all during the small time increment the appropriate resonances occur, to allow the transition of mass energy to phonic energy and/or low frequency EM energy…

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread James Bowery
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > James Bowery wrote: > > >> If there were one, the SPLC would never in a million years have anything >>> to do with it. >>> >>> The SPLC may or may not have been directly involved in the assassination >> but it is clear they had the means, mo

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread Lennart Thornros
Money is not the issue. The way they are handled and looked upon is. As a .ashfield said there is inflation just that we use all sorts of methods and stats to hide it. The people hiding it are the same as the guys that said banks do not need to pay interest that way they can get out of bankruptcy w

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery wrote: > If there were one, the SPLC would never in a million years have anything >> to do with it. >> >> The SPLC may or may not have been directly involved in the assassination > but it is clear they had the means, motive and opportunity. > With a time machine, not doubt. MLK wa

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery wrote: > "They" did not shoot him. One person did. There was no conspiracy. >> > > Mrs. Coretta Scott King welcomed the verdict, saying , “There is abundant > evidence of a major high level conspiracy in the assassination of my > husband, Martin Luther King, Jr. . . . > Yes, I know

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread James Bowery
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > James Bowery wrote: > > Martin Luther King Jr.'s final advice, before he was assassinated, was to >> follow Henry George's advice to attack poverty directly with a citizen's >> dividend. They shot MLK because he proposed a race-neutral appro

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Chris Zell wrote: FDR was nearly the victim of a fascist coup that is usually left out of > history textbooks. > It was left out of every history book I know, and I have read a lot of 'em, plus original sources. >And we do have nasty inflation in services, which is often overlooked > in g

RE: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread torulf.greek
"_Wealth is created by learning curves that result from millions of falsifiable experiments in entrepreneurship..._" Its says noting about the quality of this experiments. Some may really create new value but some only redistribute value. Even with gold its may be more safe to invest in old d

RE: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread Chris Zell
FDR was nearly the victim of a fascist coup that is usually left out of history textbooks. And we do have nasty inflation in services, which is often overlooked in gov. stats. (NPR). Wages have suffered relative deflation as minimum wage will not pay for rent ( properly) in any of the 50 state

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread a.ashfield
Jed, "In a democracy, you have to persuade the public that it must be done, not the government." I know that's the theory, but when the media is all owned by rich people and the choice presented to the plebs is vote for Tweedledum or Tweedledee. I remain pessimistic. My wife says I'm too pe

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread a.ashfield
Jed, “I am not aware that a central bank is screwing things up now. There has been no inflation in the US in many years so obviously they are not printing or circulating too much money.” But they have in not obvious ways. Making money and lending it the banks at zero interest and for the ba

Re: [Vo]:LENR on a Chip

2015-08-05 Thread Axil Axil
Regarding: With thanks to Jones Beene who sent this paper and thinks it can be applied -in some way- to LENR: MIPT researchers clear the way for fast plasmonic chps: http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2015-08/miop-mrc080315.php Jones’ concept is strong and true in that LENR is not bound to a

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
a.ashfield wrote: > "How does this change without violence or revolution against the > oligarchs? We're gonna need a miracle" > > This situation has happened many times in history. It results in either a > revolution or the appearance of some charismatic leader that is able to > persuade the go

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
a.ashfield wrote: > The only thing in its favor is that the central bank can't then screw > things up. > I am not aware that a central bank is screwing things up now. There has been no inflation in the US in many years so obviously they are not printing or circulating too much money. There has

RE: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread a.ashfield
Chris Zell, "How does this change without violence or revolution against the oligarchs? We're gonna need a miracle" This situation has happened many times in history. It results in either a revolution or the appearance of some charismatic leader that is able to persuade the government it mu

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > It would make a lot more sense to base the money supply on sand (silicon) > or kilowatt hours of generating capacity, or some other useful commodity. > Here is an interesting quiz: 1. In England circa 1800, what was the most valuable material per gram: iron, diamonds, or gold? Answ

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread a.ashfield
Jed, "I know little about economics, but limiting the amount of money based on the amount gold we have -- or the number of bitcoins -- seems like utter lunacy to me. It never worked in the past. There are two reasons:" Kurzweil seems to think it may be possible to break the Bitcoin algorithm

RE: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread Chris Zell
I don’t see how society can tolerate the inherent power of extreme wealth even if all other problems of income inequality can be explained away. If campaign contributions were controlled or eliminated, there could still be outright bribery. As with elite bankers, what do laws matter if there i

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery wrote: Martin Luther King Jr.'s final advice, before he was assassinated, was to > follow Henry George's advice to attack poverty directly with a citizen's > dividend. They shot MLK because he proposed a race-neutral approach to > "souther poverty" and if there is one thing the Sout

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
a.ashfield wrote: > > Thanks for the link. A most interesting criticism of current economic > theory. Clearly our fiat money system has high risk but I'm not so sure > that Gilders has the answer. > I know little about economics, but limiting the amount of money based on the amount gold we hav

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread James Bowery
Martin Luther King Jr.'s final advice, before he was assassinated, was to follow Henry George's advice to attack poverty directly with a citizen's dividend. They shot MLK because he proposed a race-neutral approach to "souther poverty" and if there is one thing the Souther Poverty Law Center canno

RE: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread Chris Zell
I recall that the notion of a basic guaranteed income actually came up during the Nixon administration. They kicked around the idea of getting rid of the whole welfare establishment and just hand out cash instead. Reagan also observed the huge expense of welfare as opposed to the actual benefi

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread a.ashfield
Alain, "I share some vision." It was not clear what source you were referring to in your reply. The paper that was attached to my earlier reply or Steven's comment on it. I agree with you that UBI looks like it may be an answer, but as I suggested, the wise thing to do would be to try a limit

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread Alain Sepeda
I share some vision. note that UBI is not oposed to working... UBI make people less afraid to take risk, and they make them always wanting to work more to have more... but not at any cost in term of comfort. people will work hard to have a nice leisure time, employing people who will work hard for

Re: [Vo]:LENR on a Chip

2015-08-05 Thread Bob Cook
LENR on a ChipJones-- The SSP’s are very exciting with their huge magnetic local B fields which can change, rapidly touching (creating) many different resonances influenced by the B field. It promises engineering control of the energy states of the local coherent system as a function of time--

RE: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread a.ashfield
Steven, "I read your paper. It's very good. For a six page WORD doc it manages to cast significant light on the socio-economic complexities our society is in the process of inheriting such as advancing robotics, AI, and automation. The Vort Collective has been debating many of these issues for

[Vo]:LENR news, just a bit commented for Aug 5, 2015

2015-08-05 Thread Peter Gluck
See this, please: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/08/mainly-info-for-aug-5-2015.html Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread James Bowery
Quoting Gilder's book preview "Average American households incomes and net worth..." Gilder's ignorance of the importance of median (or even mode) as opposed to average of these variables might be written off as a mere mental typo were it not for the fact that choosing average over median (or even

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread James Bowery
Quoting Gilder's book preview "Wealth is created by learning curves that result from millions of falsifiable experiments in entrepreneurship..." Gilder's attempt to impress us with his ability to pedantically parrot Popperian dogma confuses "experiment" with "hypothesis". On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 9

RE: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Adrian, I read your paper. It's very good. For a six page WORD doc it manages to cast significant light on the socio-economic complexities our society is in the process of inheriting such as advancing robotics, AI, and automation. The Vort Collective has been debating many of these issues fo

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread James Bowery
Quoting Gilder's book preview "In economist Milton Friedman’s famous equation MV=PT..." Gilder should learn to use Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Fisher#Monetary_economics On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 7:53 AM, James Bowery wrote: > Gilder's ideas in this latest book may be fresh, bu

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread Lennart Thornros
Mats, That was a good link. I think your conclusion that economists does not understand how technology or life in general affects the economy. I think economists are being born out of the fact that we allow certain entities to manipulate the trade. I am not proposing reverting to barter economy but

Re: [Vo]:Why are there still so many jobs?

2015-08-05 Thread Lennart Thornros
Axil and Jed, I think this is an issue. I do not think that the solution will come easy but it will come - more or less good. My thought; why do we need to participate in this war? who benefits? Thinking a little outside the box. What is it that we need to protect in the US, that people in Spain do

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread James Bowery
Gilder's ideas in this latest book may be fresh, but his career is far from it -- including some very stale ideas such as "supply side economics" (which even some of its major proponents eventually admitted was destructive to the middle class that Gilder supposedly championed from his early days as

Re: [Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread a.ashfield
Mats, Thanks for the link. A most interesting criticism of current economic theory. Clearly our fiat money system has high risk but I'm not so sure that Gilders has the answer. I touched on the problem, together with a lot of other problems, in a piece I wrote /Advances in technology that wil

[Vo]:LENR on a Chip

2015-08-05 Thread Jones Beene
This is an advanced technology for communications using SPP, but can a similar technology be used to drive the LENR reaction? http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2015-08/miop-mrc080315.php This assumes that the Ni-H reaction, or one variety thereof, responds to an optoelectronic pulse. Combine

[Vo]:A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New Information Theory of Money.

2015-08-05 Thread Mats Lewan
I've always had doubts about economists understanding of how technology influences and changes the world and the society over time, and consequently also its financial and monetary realities. Renowned economist and author, George Gilde, has written the book 'A 21st Century Case for Gold: A New