Re: [Vo]:4D reactions & HPG - was :Arata device schematic

Jones, After reading the rather poor description on the website, I think this is only a way to provide chemical heat by converting UH6 to U3O8. No nuclear reaction is involved or possible. As they say, it is like a battery that provides energy for a limited time. I agree, this is a convenien

Re: [Vo]:4D reactions & HPG - was :Arata device schematic

Jones, If this is a nuclear reactor, the radiation would be too dangerous to make this practical. Even if it were buried deep enough to stop the radiation, it could not be safely dug up after 5 years. Besides, no sane person would want a nuclear reactor buried near them. The chemical reacti

Re: [Vo]:4D reactions & HPG - was :Arata device schematic

Robin, If this energy is produced by a nuclear reaction, then neutrons and gamma are produced. This requires significant shielding. In addition, the "core" would be too active to dig up in five years and haul away for reprocessing, at least right away. In addition, the electric conversion equ

Re: [Vo]:4D reactions & HPG - was :Arata device schematic

Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to Edmund Storms's message of Wed, 28 May 2008 21:13:05 -0600: Hi Ed, Vortex is bouncing my posts again, could you forward this for me? [snip] Robin, If this energy is produced by a nuclear reaction, then neutrons and gamma are produced. It clearly

[Fwd: Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion, Wet or Dry?]

Original Message Subject: Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion, Wet or Dry? Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 13:04:24 -0600 From: Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Energy K. Systems To: Nick Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion, Wet or Dry?

Hoyt, where did you get this information? In all my reading, I have never seen where F-P added CS2 to their cell. Ed Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. wrote: Remember Pons&Fleishmann deliberately poisoned their electrolyte with carbon disulfide ( which unfortunately disables any platinum recombiner you may

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion, Wet or Dry?

Hi Horace, Thanks for remembering this heroic effort to make tritium using the F-P method. The intention was to create a NAE on the surface, not to improve loading, which this treatment did not do. We tried a lot of stupid ideas at a time when we didn't know what might work. A few did work, bu

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

Jones, your idea is interesting but unnecessary. All new discoveries always take effort and time to become a technology. BLP and CF are no different from the experiences suffered by ALL discoveries. The only difference is the time it takes for the essential features of the discovery to be learn

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

At the risk of replowing the same field, of course intention and belief play a role at some level. For example, people can never win at the slots unless they have sufficient belief to actually put the coin into the machine and push the button. If the expected belief is not fulfilled, the concl

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

You raise an interesting point, Richard, by this example. People need encourage to believe they can do things that need to be done but are threatening or hard. Stories like David and Goliath, whether it is true or not, provide this encouragement. Missing, of course are the stories of the more c

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

You are right, Steven, if belief were only required, the reality we find ourselves in would not work and it would not survive long enough for us to debate the issue. I suppose we could conclude that the Darwin process has eliminated this possibility. If this is true, then this process would hav

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

Hi Richard, I used religion as an example of my point because you used a metaphor based on religion in your example. I agree with you, the organized religions are nothing but power structures that are used to control behavior, which is needed of course. However, they offer very little insight

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

OrionWorks wrote: From Edmund Storms: Of course, there is another possibility that can be confused with getting something when you want it bad enough. Suppose, certain people are able to obtain information by mental telepathy. This ability would give them an advantage in getting their way

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

ess of the evidence or logic? Ed Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: You are right, Steven, if belief were only required, the reality we find ourselves in would not work and it would not survive long enough for us to debate the issue. I suppose we could conclude that the Darw

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

R C Macaulay wrote: Howdy Ed, This thread is becoming most interesting because it deals with a voyage toward a science of ideas where, once embarked upon that sea, there can be no return. Our decision then becomes that of selecting the posture one takes in the boat, I agree partially R

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

de by anyone? These are the methods used by science and the law. They need to be applied faithfully no matter how hard the claim is to accept. Ed Jones Beene wrote: --- Edmund Storms wrote: study the life and teachings of Sai Baba These details do not do justice to the man:

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

thomas malloy wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: . Regardless of the difficulty in accepting the claims and observations, when thousands of people keep experiencing the same reproducible events, something real must be happening. I don't want this to be a discussion of Sai Baba. Nevertheless

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: OrionWorks wrote: Thanks for bringing Sai Baba back to my attention, Ed. How foolish of me to have temporarily forgotten him. Isn't it interesting that someone with his unique perception on reality, combined with his ability to manipulate reality (seemingly the

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

#x27;re interested... P. - Original Message From: Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 7:30:26 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > > > OrionWorks wrote: > >> Thanks fo

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

apter (in fact the entire book) on-line. Thanks, I ordered the book. Ed P. - Original Message ---- From: Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 9:23:11 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention Thanks for pointing this out, Phili

Re: [Vo]:Gas flow to Arata cell NOT shut off

t;D+-jet stream stopped" to something like "D+ absorption stops" (or "ends" or "sample stop absorbing D+)". "Stopped" sounds transitive, indicating that someone stopped it. I was surprised to learn that absorption can stop so abruptly. I thought

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

Let me answer your question, Richard. The issue was how does a person evaluate reality. Of course, different kinds of or different levels of reality exist. Therefore, different methods are required. Science uses objective evaluation of observation in the material world. The question was raised

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

Hi Jack, You are right. The oil gang has benefited from Iraq. However, this benefit is temporary, as I'm sure they must realize. Meanwhile, decisions have set in motion that will eventually lead to their demise as well as a situation that no one wants. For example, all kinds of oil saving tec

Re: [Vo]:Arata's results really are astounding

I agree with Jed, the data show some extra heat. However, I find this approach to be very sad. Arata had a chance to design the experiment so that the doubts and speculation could have been significantly reduced. He could have, without much extra effort, made the demonstration professional and

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

the fears of the Israeli government. Why can these issues be debated without emotion and the use of anti-Semitism? Ed Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: The third possibility, which I favor, is that the Bush gang is so incompetent and so under the domination of Israel . . . Th

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

e all controlling the world's oil flows. I must have been either mistaken or blind... These must have been Mossad agents in disguise... Silly me for not immediately seeing that... P. - Original Message ---- From: Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent

Re: [Vo]:J.K. Rowling's graduation address to Harvard

Thanks Steven, that is indeed worth reading. Ed OrionWorks wrote: J.K. Rowling's graduation address to Harvard. Some of us may find it worth the time to read: http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2008/06.05/99-rowlingspeech.html http://tinyurl.com/63dvc3 Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.O

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

ase choose you words a little more carefully if you can't offer "scientific explanations." They're a dead giveaway... P. - Original Message From: Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 8, 2008 7:03:40 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Oil

Re: [Vo]:Arata's results really are astounding

Good question. The significance of 1 degree depends on how much insulation is on the cell and how well the thermocouples were calibrated. If the cell is well insulated, 1 degree would represent very little extra power. Since we don't have any information about either, the significance is totall

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

id - part of the dream... If you want to have further discussions on this (or Sai Baba, or Reality), you may want to ask Steve K for my email address. P. - Original Message From: Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 8, 2008 11:41:28 PM

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

un 08, 2008 at 09:41:28PM -0600, Edmund Storms wrote: I don't like the situation either, Philip. However, when a nation has the oil we need, it is apparently easy to be nice. If not, we have to pay an even greater price for our principles. This is actually the way the world works these days. I

Re: [Vo]:RE: Arata's results are really astounding

Good question, Steven. If this method is as good as claimed, it is the best and only method I believe that can result in a commercial device. Earlier use of palladium black by Arata showed similar behavior. Using this material, McKubre (SRI) replicated the claimed heat production and produced

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

Stephen, you are making a huge assumption when you say that past lives are not remembered. I suggest you read the books by Dr. Ian Stevenson (MD). Prof. Stevenson spent his career at the University of Virginia investigating reincarnation using a scientific approach. Naturally, his extensive inv

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

the physical reality. Why can't this improved approach be applied to this new reality? Ed Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: Stephen, you are making a huge assumption when you say that past lives are not remembered. True, it's a big one; it's based on t

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

just imagination and self promotion. Nevertheless, I always hope there are a few people in the world who share my approach, but apparently not many. Ed Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: Stephen, you are making a huge assumption when you say that past lives are not remembered

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

You are certainly right Stephen, might does make right and land is always taken by force and retained the victor. We did it to the British, the Indians, and to the Mexicans while feeling very proud of ourselves. However, the situation with Israel is different. Here a higher moral principal is

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: You are certainly right Stephen, might does make right and land is always taken by force and retained the victor. Excuse me, I didn't say that, or didn't intend to. It's Thomas who elevated it to a principle of internatio

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

Good idea, Steven, but I suggest a different approach from atheism. A good dose of real humility would work as well. If they would simply question whether a god as old and complex as the one that must exist in a universe as vast and old as ours would give a shit who occupies this speck of land.

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

- "The Sleeping Prophet" P.. - Original Message ---- From: Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:10:08 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds Stephen, you are making a huge assumption when you say that past lives are not remem

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

stians. At some point, theological and historical arguments simply won't work any more. How long must people wait until this reality becomes obvious? Ed Edmund Storms wrote: God's will. We are to believe that the Jews are more favored than the Philistines by God and that the moral

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

the situation worse for Israel, its actions violate modern standards of behavior, as shown by the various UN resolutions, both passed and proposed, that condemn its behavior. Surely these facts must concern all Jews and Christians. At some point, theological and historical arguments simply won't

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

thomas malloy wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: thomas malloy wrote: The return of the Jews, the conquest of the land, it's subsequent prosperity, the hatred of the Arabs, their refusal to get over the indignity of the loss of that part of their conquered land, the Liberals support of

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

R C Macaulay wrote: I don't know all the facts so I must go by the funny papers, virtual TV and the bible. Gaza had greenhouses producing food. Gaza was ceded to Hezbubba by Israel. Hezbubba destroyed the greenhouses which produced the food and provided jobs, effectively hurting nobody but

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

Great story Terry, just what we need to lower the tension. If we need more proof that God is nothing but trouble, read the attached article. Ed Terry Blanton wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:50 AM, OrionWorks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I thi

Re: [Vo]:Divine Intervention

Thanks for the story Steven. Such occurrence can give us hope. As for your questions? Ask yourself how you would communicate a message under such circumstances if you were God. Intervention is out of the question for reasons that have been debated for centuries. To me, the message to the Israel

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

Harry Veeder wrote: On 11/6/2008 1:49 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: thomas malloy wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: thomas malloy wrote: The return of the Jews, the conquest of the land, it's subsequent prosperity, the hatred of the Arabs, their refusal to get over the indignity of the

Re: [Vo]:Divine Intervention

Stephen, why do you assume the child was any less supernatural than the rabbi? It seems to me we have only two possibilities. 1. Both the rabbi and the child were real and left the scene without being noticed. This seems unlikely since help was at hand. 2. Both the rabbi and the child were an

Re: [Vo]:Tell us how you really feel Bob

Even when Park is talking about ordinary things, i.e. improved gas mileage, he is uninformed. Use of a small amount of hydrogen in the air entering an engine can improve the efficiency of combustion. The only issue is whether this increased efficiency is larger than the energy needed to make th

Re: [Vo]:What are the best papers on cold fusion and their web links?

Jeff, I suggest you get a copy of my book "The Science of Low Energy Nuclear Reaction" available from World Scientific. I spent 6 months providing an answer to your question, which is not worth repeating. Ed Jeff Driscoll wrote: What are the best papers in cold fusion and what are the web

Re: [Vo]:Hokkaido Shimbun reports on Mizuno hydrocarbon experiments

Jones Beene wrote: --- Terry Blanton wrote: I wonder if there was anything special about the carbon? This list has speculated that fusion could occur within C60 Terry, you are becoming quite perceptive in your old age ;-) For one thing specifically- it would be interesting to know if

Re: [Vo]:Hokkaido Shimbun reports on Mizuno hydrocarbon experiments

Jones Beene wrote: --- Ed Excellent point. ... when interpreting the work of Arata, you need to separate what he claims from what is known about palladium The extra hydrogen is absorbed to the surface and is present as spill-over hydrogen attached to the ZrO2. The issue is, Does pall

[Vo]:irrational thinking

If you would like to understand the irrational thinking that drives the policy with respect to Iran and Israel, read this article. The neocons once again are revealing their shallow thinking in an effort to protect Is

Re: [Vo]:PhysOrg discussion of Arata

Jed, these comments are a gold mine of issues that we need to address in our description of the experiment. This provides an incentive to expand the description. Ed Jed Rothwell wrote: With comments by the usual suspects: http://www.physorg.com/news131101595.html

Re: [Vo]:irrational thinking

Harry Veeder wrote: On 23/6/2008 8:14 AM, Taylor J. Smith wrote: Hi All, Now Mohamed ElBaradei follows in the footsteps of Admiral Fallon. Jack Smith Ed Storms wrote on 6-20-08: ``If you would like to understand the irrational thinking that drives the policy with respect to Iran and Isr

Re: [Vo]:irrational thinking

ed or failed. The effect, either way, of an Israeli or American attack on Natanz and other sites, would be to deter Iran's pursuit of a nuclear weapon. Senior retired U.S. military officers, contacted by EIR and asked to comment on the WINEP report, denounced it as "extremely dangerous.&qu

Re: [Vo]:irrational thinking

Thanks for the offer, Richard, but it seems to me San Francisco does not have any adults to spare. :-) In any case, the adult population of Washington has been kept low thanks to Bush. Obama might import a few he knows. Ed R C Macaulay wrote: Howdy Ed, I have looked but I am having a dif

Re: [VO]: Biomass/ Ethanol economics

I suggest we have three separate issues here. 1. Cost of oil that is used to make gasoline. 2. Cost of gasoline. 3. How much oil is used in the US for transportation. Each of these issues have a different solution and consequence. As Terry pointed out and I have seen also, use of gasoline in th

Re: [Vo]:U.S. Freezes Solar Energy Projects

We have seen this approach many times in the past. When this government is given two choices, it will always pick the least intelligent one. Hopefully, the next administration will reverse these decisions. Ed Horace Heffner wrote: I'm hopefully not given to apoplexy, but this just about did

Re: [Vo]:U.S. Freezes Solar Energy Projects

Every "normal" person is in favor of protecting the environment, Mike. Its the way it is done or the hypocrisy shown by the administration that is so stupid. For example, drilling in the coastal waters or in Alaska is all right even though the harm to the environment is obvious. But, covering a

Re: [Vo]:Rothwell & Storms describe Arata paper

Steve, this paper is available on LENR.org. We have no plans for it to go any further. You may quote it and acknowledge its availability on LENR.org. Ed Steven Krivit wrote: Gentlemen, Is this a pre-print of a paper you have submitted to a journal or as paper to be presented at a science

Re: [Vo]:Rothwell & Storms describe Arata paper

A universal way of critiquing in science is recognized by most scientists, which was followed in this case. Arata was given a chance to respond, as he would be given by any journal when a paper critical of a person's work is submitted. We can not know why he did not respond and it does not matt

Re: [Vo]:Rusi Taleyarkhan under attack again

There has to be more to this attack than its relationship to cold fusion. The attackers are not that ignorant. The original attack came from a competitor who wanted to get the credit. Later attacks by Park and Taubes make no sense unless they are using this as another way to get personal attent

Re: [Vo]:new blog post

To anyone who is interested. In quoting me, as below, Steve once again uses a communication sent to him in private to make a point that is a distortion of the intent. I did not and would not discourage anyone from "reporting all of the key facts of LENR research". My intent was to suggest caut

Re: [Vo]:Knol article uploaded

Looks like I fixed my name on KNOL by changing my name on Google. Ed Jed Rothwell wrote: That was a piece of cake. See: http://knol.google.com/k/jed-rothwell/cold-fusion/2zjj2hvn3qzi5/2# As you see, I plagiarized the whole thing from "Cold Fusion for Dummies" by Ed Storms. (Ed originally wr

Re: [Vo]:ICCF-14 agenda will be uploaded real soon now

Steve, I suggest you consider that the visa problems as well as other issues might be a factor in not having a final agenda. A draft agenda has been sent to the speakers for their input. Would you rather have an agenda that is incomplete or has to be seriously changed, as was the case with the

Re: [Vo]:ICCF-14 agenda will be uploaded real soon now

should not be blamed on the organizers. It is better taken up with the Bush administration. Regards, Ed Horace Heffner wrote: On Aug 3, 2008, at 4:38 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: Steve, I suggest you consider that the visa problems as well as other issues might be a factor in not having a final

Re: [Vo]:Ockels Flies His Kite

How many airplanes need to hit a tether or kite to bring the method to an end? How many up and down cycles will the tether survive? How many lightening strikes on a wet tether must occur before the tether breaks? In short, this method has no hope of being practical. Ed Jed Rothwell wrote: Goo

Re: [Vo]:Ockels Flies His Kite

real problem for airplanes. Ed Terry Blanton wrote: Certainly, no less practical than a space elevator. Terry On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How many airplanes need to hit a tether or kite to bring the method to an end? How many up and down

Re: [Vo]:[OT] New Yorker Reports Cheney Sought Casus Belli with Iran

A better question is, "How do people who make such stupid policy keep a clearance?" Thank heavens some people are willing to make these policies known. Our leaders seem to have lost their rationality in an attempt to get reelected. They will agree to anything as long as it doesn't make them loo

Re: [Vo]:THz laser at ICCF-14

When evaluating the laser result, you need to take into account that it does not work unless the cathode is coated with gold. Consequently, the effect depends on how deep the laser energy goes. Does the effect have any relationship at all to the properties of palladium? Ed Jones Beene wrote:

Re: [Vo]:OT: Conspiracy & preserving the Status Quo

While I agree completely with Jed, the question remains, "Did the administration know that 9/11 was going to happen and did nothing to prevent it?" The whole conspiracy approach is based on a profound distrust of this government. While they could not go so far as to plant explosives, how far wo

Re: [Vo]:The emphasis is on energy in this year's campaign

I hope you are right, Jed. But I can hear the response to any request. "I agree, evidence for CF exists, But you have no idea why or how it works and you can't make it work very often. We have an energy problem we need to solve right now using methods that are better understood. So come bac

Re: [Vo]:The emphasis is on energy in this year's campaign

On Aug 29, 2008, at 12:28 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: I hope you are right, Jed. But I can hear the response to any request. "I agree, evidence for CF exists, But you have no idea why or how it works and you can't make it work very often. We have an energy

Re: [Vo]:[OT] DOM Vote

I wonder how many people turned McCain down before Gov. Palin's name came up? The ship is sinking with all aboard. Ed On Aug 29, 2008, at 1:46 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Terry Blanton wrote: The republicans have sealed the dirty old man vote. Gov. Palin at 20: And also the creationist vot

Re: [Vo]:[OT] DOM Vote

On Aug 29, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to Edmund Storms's message of Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:57:30 -0600: Hi, [snip] I wonder how many people turned McCain down before Gov. Palin's name came up? The ship is sinking with all aboard. Ed Actually I thought it was a very

Re: [Vo]:[OT] DOM Vote

few are getting very rich. This is not what the founding fathers wanted. Obama may be inexperienced, but he sees the problem and has proposed solutions. This is more than be said for McCain et al. Ed On Aug 30, 2008, at 11:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Edmund Storms <[EM

Re: [Vo]:[OT] DOM Vote

tions, adroitly conforming to "reforms" passed by Congress. Mike Carrell - Original Message - From: "Edmund Storms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: Cc: "Edmund Storms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] DOM

Re: [Vo]:Nature India on Bubble Fusion

I agree with both Horace and Jed, this is serious and should be confronted at every level possible. The initial conflict appeared to be motivated by simple professional jealousy. Now the conflict has gotten more serious because a major university cannot set proper standards for its faculty.

Re: [Vo]:Sunspotless

On Sep 2, 2008, at 3:07 PM, Jones Beene wrote: snip If flat earth is too extreme, even for biblical literalists; but creationism is OK to teach, then I would like to ask the various candidates who might support 'creationism,' although there is only one of that persuation, "where do you draw

Re: [Vo]:Sunspotless

On Sep 2, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to Edmund Storms's message of Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:32:23 -0600: Hi, [snip] behavior of the stock market and the government. The bigger question, is what does an individual do to protect themselves from this growing irrationall

Re: [Vo]:Bubblegate: Send Lawyers, Affidavits and Money

A graduate student at a university would be crazy to write a letter damning a member of the faculty unless he was sure of being protect. This would be like a private in the army publicly criticizing his commanding officer in a letter. This simply is not done. The fact that such a letter w

Re: [Vo]:Sunspotless

The obvious problem with the argument of whether to do something about global warming always involves a basic error. The error is that if we try to do something, it will result in economic damage. Actually, if we invest in alternate energy, this will create jobs and keep more money in the

Re: [Vo]:Sunspotless

Yes Robin, but why do the nonoil barons keep making this point? Ed On Sep 4, 2008, at 3:29 PM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to Edmund Storms's message of Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:08:25 -0600: Hi, [snip] The obvious problem with the argument of whether to do something about global warmin

Re: [Vo]:Sunspotless

Good point Robin. Perhaps we should turn this around and use this as a criteria of who is influenced by the oil barons. For example, Obama made the point that development of alternate energy would put people to work. Using this criteria, Obama is apparently not under their influence. Ed

Re: [Vo]:Sunspotless

policies arising from the war on terror or at least the Iraq invasion are based on a lie. How does that make you feel? Sad? Angry? There you go. Let's use truth and good science this time. - Rick -Original Message- From: Edmund Storms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September

Re: [Vo]:Sunspotless

And you miss my point, Rick. My point is that it does not matter if the warming is caused by mankind or not. We all benefit if we develop alternative energy. If this means supporting ALGore, then suck it up and get on with life. Ed On Sep 5, 2008, at 2:25 PM, Rick Monteverde wrote: J

Re: [Vo]:Sunspotless

While all you say very well Nick is true and reasonable. Nevertheless the basic issue is not addressed. The basic issue is that burning fossil fuels is harmful for several important reasons, only one of which is global warming. Therefore, we should make every effort to phase out this sour

Re: [Vo]:Sunspotless

On Sep 7, 2008, at 10:57 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: snip So, when the Arctic Ocean is free of ice and the last polar bear is stuffed and placed in a museum, it will *STILL* not be "obvious" that humans had any effect at all on the climate: The apparent

Re: [Vo]:NIST debunking

I hate to get involved in this cat fight, but when thermite is used, it melts only a very local region which is blown away from the area by the reaction. A molten pool of iron would not be produced. I suspect, as others have suggested, that the huge energy of the collapse would melt the iro

Re: [Vo]:NIST debunking

On Sep 8, 2008, at 10:07 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Ed - You could be right - but the bottom line on it is that all we need, all we have ever needed, is simply a thorough investigation which addresses all the issues. Why were we not afforded that for the millions already spent? I suspect t

Re: [Vo]:NIST debunking

(II) oxide thermite. On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I hate to get involved in this cat fight, but when thermite is used, it melts only a very local region which is blown away from the area by the reaction. A molten pool of iron would not be p

Re: [Vo]:HAVA: Game over?

You all would fail at solving murder mysteries. Consider the facts: 1. Diebold makes ATMs, which are secure. Therefore, they know how to do a good job. 2. Diebold is owned by people who are strong supporters of the Republican party. Therefore they have a self interest in gaming the system

Re: [Vo]:Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions Sourcebook

This book is not properly described. Actually, it is collection of papers given at an ACS meeting. I'm glad to see it is available for $175. The ACS wanted $400 to sell me 100 preprints of only my contribution. Ed On Sep 11, 2008, at 4:22 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: See: http://www.oup.com/

Re: [Vo]:HAVA: Game over?

have online voting secure and cheat proof if anyone is curious, it's not really hard. On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You all would fail at solving murder mysteries. Consider the facts: 1. Diebold makes ATMs, which are secure. Therefor

Re: [Vo]:New Storms paper

Our belief is that a cluster of deuterons forms. Occasionally two members of the cluster fuse. The energy is then proportioned between the resulting alpha, which has too little energy to be detected, and the members of the cluster. The amount of energy each member receives depends on how ma

Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image

Yes, it is crazy. Such events are a sanity test of the people reacting. Insanity and delusion are real pathologies of the mind that are frequently ignored when such events are interpreted. People want to believe so badly in magic that they will see whatever supports this need. At this poin

Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image

mprovement of DNA errors? No, not a chance. David On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, it is crazy. Such events are a sanity test of the people reacting. Insanity and delusion are real pathologies of the mind that are frequently ignored when

Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image

Ah so, now my faith in the unique role of religion in creating delusion is no long in jeopardy. :-) Ed On Sep 14, 2008, at 9:47 AM, Jones Beene wrote: You guys are not paying attention to the source of this story- 'The Onion' is spoof-central. (Terry is teary-eyed LOL)

Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image

of research. The power of identity can be harnessed for good or bad. Harry on 14/9/08 11:55 am, Edmund Storms at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I understand your point and I agree. Not just Buddha is worshiped but Christ and many of the "saints" as well. This is another human nee

Re: [Vo]:GM Chevy Volt at CalCars

On Sep 17, 2008, at 9:01 AM, Jones Beene wrote: snip Had GM fired Lutz-the-Putz years ago, back when he was strongly dissing the Prius and spouting the gas-guzzler SUV spiel (epitomized in the Hummer, Suburban, Yukon, Escalade etc. legacy -- which is the Lutz legacy of 10 mpg) ... and ins

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