Re: [wdvltalk] Website optimization question - kinda

2005-11-22 Thread Alex Beston
Portman wrote: Hi Alex, Welcome to the list! hey, thanks! :) Thank you for the URL. np [snip] I feel much better turning him down. result! A. • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web

Re: [wdvltalk] Website optimization question - kinda

2005-11-18 Thread Portman
Hi Alex, Welcome to the list! Thank you for the URL. I actually wrote to the guy last night and told him I was not going to do the project. I also sent him some snippets of the list's comments about the site. He wrote back that he appreciated my honesty and would pass the feedback on to

Re:[wdvltalk] Website optimization question - kinda

2005-11-18 Thread Furry, Tim
Riva wrote: I remember getting into an e-discussion about websites on a soaping e-mail group. One person claimed that it didn't matter if there were spelling mistakes or typos on her site, it was the product that people came for. I countered that typos and spelling mistakes make a statement about

Re: [wdvltalk] Website optimization question - kinda

2005-11-18 Thread Portman
Dear Hardnose Tim ;-) , The fact that so many programs have spell checkers today makes it even more inexcusable. I heard from a HR person once that, when they post a job, if any of the resumes have typos or spelling mistakes on them (in the cover letter), they don't even bother looking at

Re: [wdvltalk] Website optimization question - kinda

2005-11-17 Thread rudy
I would optimize their website, submit it to search engines, etc. and they would pay me only if they got results. your first order of business is to write the clause for the contract that stipulates how to measure these results in a non-subjective manner rudy • The WDVL Discussion

RE: [wdvltalk] Website optimization question - kinda

2005-11-17 Thread Jon Haworth
Riva, Someone has approached me with a proposal: I would optimize their website, submit it to search engines, etc. and they would pay me only if they got results. Define results... if the target is to get your client a top ten listing on Google for a search on real estate, you could be

Re: [wdvltalk] Website optimization question - kinda

2005-11-17 Thread Franni Vincent
Hi all, Someone has approached me with a proposal: I would optimize their website, submit it to search engines, etc. and they would pay me only if they got results. I am not sure if I am going to do this yet or not, but I was wondering if anyone could point me to a website of someone else

Re: [wdvltalk] Website optimization question - kinda

2005-11-17 Thread rudy
... click through rate for banner ads - for every person that clicks through from your website, they pay you x amount. you need to specify who measures this, and what the rate is They feel that if they get traffic to their site it won't matter what it looks like that is true, but they

RE: [wdvltalk] Website optimization question - kinda

2005-11-17 Thread Jon Haworth
Riva, They feel that if they get traffic to their site it won't matter what it looks like - I don't know if I agree with that. I think your client is wrong. If I'm looking to buy a widget, I'll visit a bunch of widget-selling sites. At each one I'll expect to be able to find the particular

Re: [wdvltalk] Website optimization question - kinda

2005-11-17 Thread Portman
I agree Jon. They sell replacement windows. The website (for those who are interested) is www.zenwindows.com. The guy told me that they are not having a lot of people fill out their online form. Well, it took me a few minutes to find the link to it!! Thanks, Riva Jon Haworth wrote: I

RE: [wdvltalk] Website optimization question - kinda

2005-11-17 Thread Gerenday, Perry (P.)
: Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:29 AM To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com Subject: Re: [wdvltalk] Website optimization question - kinda I agree Jon. They sell replacement windows. The website (for those who are interested) is www.zenwindows.com. The guy told me that they are not having a lot

Re: [wdvltalk] Website optimization question - kinda

2005-11-17 Thread Portman
Thank you! I agree 100%. Riva Gerenday, Perry (P.) wrote: You might ask them to have someone objectively review their site. It comes across as unprofessional to me. I found four typos while reading just two pages. Additionally, the homepage content is hard to understand. They have a link

Re: [wdvltalk] Website optimization question - kinda

2005-11-17 Thread Peter MacGregor
At 16:09 17/11/2005, you wrote: Is this even worth my while? Well, I suppose if you are sitting at home wondering where the next buck is coming from it might be better than getting bored stiff! Otherwise forget it is my advice - contract or no. Once you've done there'll be another

Re: [wdvltalk] Website optimization question - kinda

2005-11-17 Thread Franni Vincent
Only you can judge that, Riva - I've spent most of my admin time this week chasing a 'missing' one-third upfront payment allegedly sent from a client in Hong Kong a week ago, so I'm probably just taking a more pessimistic view than usual... Franni Thanks Franni. I am not worried about

Re: [wdvltalk] Website optimization question - kinda

2005-11-17 Thread Portman
The guy told me that there was a company that they were looking in to that charges $3500 up front, $1000 per month and the $3500 is refundable if they don't get results in 6 months, but that is still $6000 for nothing. Thanks for the advice. Riva Peter MacGregor wrote: Well, I suppose if you

Re: [wdvltalk] Website optimization question - kinda

2005-11-17 Thread PBC Web Design
At 09:35 AM 11/17/2005, you wrote: Someone has approached me with a proposal: I would optimize their website, submit it to search engines, etc. and they would pay me only if they got results. I am not sure if I am going to do this yet or not, but I was wondering if anyone could point me to

RE: [wdvltalk] Website optimization question - kinda

2005-11-17 Thread Steven Olson
They feel that if they get traffic to their site it won't matter what it looks like I think they're crazy to say this. For something as common as windows, a prospect will comparison shop. A bad website = lack of credibility. Their site is not good. FWIW, I would close the tab on this site

Re: [wdvltalk] Website optimization question - kinda

2005-11-17 Thread Portman
Thanks Steven. I remember getting into an e-discussion about websites on a soaping e-mail group. One person claimed that it didn't matter if there were spelling mistakes or typos on her site, it was the product that people came for. I countered that typos and spelling mistakes make a

Re: [wdvltalk] Website optimization question - kinda

2005-11-17 Thread Joseph Harris
: Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:29 AM To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com Subject: Re: [wdvltalk] Website optimization question - kinda I agree Jon. They sell replacement windows. The website (for those who are interested) is www.zenwindows.com. The guy told me that they are not having a lot of people

RE: [wdvltalk] Website optimization question - kinda

2005-11-17 Thread Gerenday, Perry (P.)
, Nashville Glass Plant 615.350.7656 -Original Message- From: Joseph Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 1:06 PM To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com Subject: Re: [wdvltalk] Website optimization question - kinda Hey Perry, Why do need to install a Japanese