On Mar 29, 2007, at 12:29 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
There are lots of cheaper, decent hotels around Union Square. Just
Google for "hotel union square san francisco".
Has anyone tried the Hotel Mark Twain? It's a bit less expensive and
is near Union Square. The reviews online are very mixed -
Hi all,
I'm trying to figure out how to figure out what version of WO has
been installed on a system. I tried looking in /Library/Reciepts,
where I have the following packages:
WebObjects5.3.3Update.pkg
WebObjectsDevelopment.pkg
WebObjectsDocumentation.pkg
WebObjectsExamples.pkg
WebObjects
Done! :)
janine
On Sep 12, 2006, at 12:42 PM, Jerry W. Walker wrote:
Hi, Janine,
If you want the Apple Store folks to hear you, try clicking on the
"Contact Us" link on the bottom of the web site page. There's a
small box on the lower right corner of the resulting page that says
"Webs
Thanks, Gary.
Apple Store, are you listening :)
janine
On Sep 12, 2006, at 12:14 PM, Gary Teter wrote:
Yes, you can set the timeout on a session. I typically set the
timeout to something short, like 10 minutes, until a customer puts
something into their cart, at which point I set it to
I just placed an order with the Apple Store (new iPods, woohoo! :)
and had an experience I want to make sure *does not happen* to anyone
in the sites I plan to build using WO.
The site is loading slowly (understandable on a day like today) so I
would click, then go off to do something else
On Aug 28, 2006, at 12:31 PM, Ken Anderson wrote:
Please everyone, stop whining about Apple. I, for one, am very
pleased with the state of things. People have been predicting all
sorts of things for WebObjects over the years, and the one thing
that has always come true is that it keeps be
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On Aug 22, 2006, at 5:12 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
Which is why I think that Bill Bumgarner was totally wrong last
year: Wonder *is* exactly for beginners. You may have problems, or
you may not understand 5% or it. But it contains 99% of what you
will build for yourself if left on your own, onl
On Aug 22, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Jerry W. Walker wrote:
So now that I've gotten the rant out of my system, I will try to
offer one to two hours per day for the next several days (years) to
supplement the PW ERExtensions JavaDocs and the ERExtensions wiki
page if anyone on the PW team will offer
On Aug 22, 2006, at 11:02 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
Actually, I think writing a new WO app for the community site will
not be hard. For a start, we only need an admin with textarea
boxes with TinyMCE to update the pages. It's cheap, but it can be
done really fast.
If you're thinking alon
On Aug 22, 2006, at 11:32 AM, Marc Oesch wrote:
Janine just started such a page here...
Thanks - we posted this at the same time. :)
I just want to repeat that wishes are not turned into reality by
magic, so it would be best if the various proponents become promoters
and start working on stu
On Aug 22, 2006, at 11:13 AM, Ricardo Strausz wrote:
wodev had been absorbed by wikipedia (which I consider a nice
move), so let us do a non-encyclopaedic wiki; just an informal one
which announce to us the running projects' status, with their
respective links.
That was the idea behind th
ngs won't be hurt.
thanks for your time,
./james
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On Aug 21, 2006, at 8:27 PM, M. Blanc wrote:
May I sugest Pier instead? Pier is written in Smalltalk —the
inspiration behind Objective-C— and based on Seaside, an
application server originally inspired in WebObjects, so we are
cousins. It is also simple enough to install and, even better, t
On Aug 21, 2006, at 7:16 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
I tried Magnolia a year and half ago, I really like it. We can get
it to run in 15 minutes. Anyone want to host it ? It's a good
alternative until we use a WO CMS.
I can provide hosting space if Pascal can get it set up (I've never
inst
On Aug 21, 2006, at 12:04 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
At present, the source is open but the development is not. We
(GVC) are acting as gatekeepers to maintain the integrity of the
design and source.
A wise move. Although fully open source is a great goal, the reality
is that it's very risky
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On Aug 16, 2006, at 11:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
herding cats
Like this: http://video.google.com/videoplay?
docid=7635587316493151891
Yes, exactly!
As far as I'm concerned that is the Best. Superbowl. Ad. Ever.
Except for one s
On Aug 16, 2006, at 11:28 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
If people generally think this is a good idea, then maybe we
should ask for volunteers? We only need 3 or 4 people, I think,
since the task will be mostly answering procedural questions and
giving people the confidence that they can move forw
Sounds like a great thing for you to put on the "tasks in progress"
page once I have it created. I am still on vacation, so it could be
next week before I get that taken care of. There are just not enough
hours in the day!
janine
On Aug 16, 2006, at 2:02 PM, Joe Little wrote:
I'm unsur
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On Aug 16, 2006, at 1:05 AM, Cornelius Jaeger wrote:
how about janine, anjo, and chuck.
they talk the talk and walk the walk
I would add Mike to that list; that way we would have one person
from WOProject, one from WOLips, one to guide newbies and one to
guide more experienced people. Bu
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On Aug 16, 2006, at 4:49 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
Why not just sign up on confluence and start your tutorial today?
I signed up last night, but this isn't something I would want to work
on in a public space. I do lots of editing and back-tracking before
I consider it finished, and I pre
On Aug 15, 2006, at 4:31 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
What we don't need is for most people to sit on the sidelines and
wait around for the few to conjure up the future of WebObjects. To
get the most people involved, we need to have the lowest barriers
to participation possible.
I have been fol
On Aug 15, 2006, at 9:17 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
To expand on this point... Building an association with a goal of
promoting a proprietary code base (with the owner not being a part
of it) is an exercise in futility. If your are a business owner
whose business depends on WebObjects techn
On Aug 15, 2006, at 9:07 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
and to help out Mike with making WOLips the best damn plug-in it
can be.
s/Mike/Ulrich, Anjo, Mike, et al/ ...
Sorry Mike it seems to be one of the Laws of Nature that whoever
is doing the most posting about something is the one who owns
of
the Foundation ? You think that's it a bad idea ? Please reply :-)
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to go away. So enough FUD!
Instead, lets make the community so strong, that in two years,
Apple is proposing to US what it would like to see in WO, and we're
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On Aug 13, 2006, at 5:16 AM, Ken Anderson wrote:
Ah - you've hit the nail right on the head. WebObjects is no
longer a product, it is a development tool. Do you ever see ads
for CoreData or CoreImage?
Yes, and that was kind of my point - they never do ads for Xcode
either, but they do m
On Aug 12, 2006, at 10:19 AM, Marc Oesch wrote:
I'd like to see Apple add to their public WebObjects page so that
we have something to point prospective clients to to show
*Sigh*, I appreciate your enthusiam...no sarcasm intended :)
And I understand your skepticism!
If the feedback addres
During the WO Feedback session I brought up the subject of Apple
marketing for WO, or lack thereof. I can't tell you what the answer
was (which is just as annoying for me as it is for you!) but let's
just say that there are no marketing companies sharpening their
pencils today (at least no
On Aug 12, 2006, at 7:52 AM, Anjo Krank wrote:
Also, this WYSWIG thing is totally overrated and mainly only
useful for beginners, as you see exactly nothing once your
components get a bit more complex.
Anjo, I mostly agree with you but I'd like to offer this thought:
When I first worked t
*sigh* stupid hotel Internet; I forgot that it doesn't let me send
using my mac.com account, so I went away for a bit and found this
sitting here waiting for me to change outgoing mail servers. So this
was more relevant an hour ago, but I'm going to send it anyway, with
another thought ad
Can you suggest a program to use for doing this? A quick Google
found many choices but they all look expensive and windows-ish.
I think there is room for both; I personally prefer working from
written docs, but once I have that done I can use it for a script to
do a screencast for those w
odeler/ which I don't think is the right site.
Thanks,
-dustin
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Hi Miguel,
We already talked about this in person (the best thing about WWDC is
being able to do that! :) but for the benefit of everyone else I'll
repeat what I told you: I'm not experienced enough yet to do a best
practices doc. That really needs to come from the people who have
tried
In a moment of WWDC-induced enthusiasm (or insanity, depending on
your point of view :) I volunteered to write a tutorial for using
Eclipse+WOLips to build a small project. Chuck and Mike have agreed
to assist.
I can't give any sort of time table; it's dependent on all three of
our sche
In a moment of WWDC-induced enthusiasm (or insanity, depending on
your point of view :) I volunteered to write a tutorial for using
Eclipse+WOLips to build a small project. Chuck and Mike have agreed
to assist.
I can't give any sort of time table; it's dependent on all three of
our sche
I was asked the same question several times at the campus bash
tonight, so please allow me to clear something up: no, I have not
been wearing the exact same t-shirt all week! I have several that
look the same, and I even did laundry a few days ago.
Just to reassure you all, I will wear so
's in ?
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Anyone who wants to go for lunch after the WebObjects and Web 2.0
session, meet outside the room immediately afterwards. Hopefully we
will have good things to talk about!
janine
PS Awfully big crowd for a dead technology, eh? Looks like someone
forgot to send out the memo...
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On Aug 9, 2006, at 6:52 PM, Arturo Pérez wrote:
Now, I understand. That is an attention getter.
Intentionally so! :) Though to be honest the implications of
placement didn't occur to me until afterwards, but when you have
shirts with writing on them that is generally where it goes, so I
On Aug 9, 2006, at 5:35 PM, Arturo Pérez wrote:
BTW, I do actually - of the shirt. Where is that? I'd love to
see what's causing all the commotion :-)
http://www.cafepress.com/WOWomen
Believe me, it's not what's inside the shirt that's getting the
attention - I'm usually relatively invi
On Aug 9, 2006, at 5:24 PM, Arturo Pérez wrote:
Well, actually, I've never seen a woman at WWDC.
There are a lot of us here, more than I expected, but the technical
sessions are still mostly men. I'm guessing the women are here
mostly for the creative side. Yet another way that Apple has
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On Aug 9, 2006, at 5:12 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
Did someone saw Eric Loit since Monday night ?
No worries, I saw him today. Or rather, he saw me - that t-shirt
thing again. :)
janine
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Yes, yes, I know. Having worked in this field for 20+ years now I'm
quite used to it. :)
janine
On Aug 9, 2006, at 2:38 PM, Ken Anderson wrote:
Sorry Janine, you have to excuse our colleagues that don't often
see or speak to women :)
Regarding the person on Monday wearing the other WebObj
Yes, I'm trying to ignore that! :)
janine
On Aug 9, 2006, at 2:30 PM, Tom M. Blenko wrote:
You misunderstand, Arturo's asking for a picture.
Tom
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Not being there, I can't help but
On Aug 9, 2006, at 1:58 PM, Arturo Perez wrote:
Not being there, I can't help but wonder why they are noticing
you. That is, why are you THE woman wearing the WebObjects
shirt? Are you the only woman with a shirt? Are you the only
woman at WWDC? Are you the only WebObjects-shirt wearin
I don't want my laptop to become unusable for the WO sessions coming
up - can I install 2.4 without major breakage, or should I wait until
next week?
thanks,
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On Aug 9, 2006, at 1:27 PM, Guido Neitzer wrote:
So, do you now suggest next year we bring all our wives /
girlfriends to WWDC only for wearing WO shirts and doing WO
advertisement?
Sounds like a good plan to me! We will have to make a new batch of
shirts next year. I'm sure we can find
A guy just stopped me on Level 2 at WWDC and said "You're the woman
wearing the WebObjects shirt!". I said "apparently I am, yes" and he
said "All these people have been telling me that there's this woman
here wearing a WebObjects t-shirt".
Very cool. I feel a little silly wearing it; le
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Some weeks back someone posted to this list (I think) that it's
better to go down to Cupertino and shop at the Employee Store on some
day other than the one of the Campus Bash, to avoid the long lines.
Tonight I tried to find out some info about this store, like it's
location and hours and
On Aug 2, 2006, at 7:31 PM, Jerry W. Walker wrote:
I would urge you to read the Introduction and the section on
"Developing a Software Product With Xcode". These two sections do a
pretty good job of introducing the Xcode vocabulary and, without
that, you will find the sessions more mystifyi
Well, one could argue that *you* just absorb knowledge through the
keyboard. The rest of us, however... :)
On Aug 2, 2006, at 3:24 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
I use Xcode daily and I have not read _any_ of this. :-) And I
doubt that I ever will.
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Perhaps I'm just being lazy, but reading the entire Xcode 2.3 User
Guide, which clocks in at a measly 536 pages, seems like an awful lot
of pre-reading to do for a couple of sessions on Xcode. Heck, by the
time I read all that I wouldn't need to attend the sessions anymore!
Most of the ot
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On Aug 1, 2006, at 2:44 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
Heck, I can probably drink an entire bottle of beer by myself!
Shouldn't that have read a "keg"? :)
My flight gets in at 6:30PM on Sunday. Anyone want to get in a
night of practice on Sunday?
I'm arriving Saturday, so I'm up for something on
On Jul 24, 2006, at 10:42 PM, Mark Ritchie wrote:
For sure we can use Shark with WO!! Don't know if this
presentation is going to demo Java with Shark or not. Would be
nice if they did! :-)
FYI, the Java Time Profile works pretty well! For me the Java
Alloc Trace is slow and doesn't co
309 Using Performance Analysis and Debugging Tools on Mac OS X
"The first step in optimization is understanding where your
application is using resources. Learn to use Shark and other tools to
understand application flow, analyze what your code is doing, and
take the necessary measureme
I know this isn't strictly WO related, but Google is not finding
anything for me and I don't really know where else to ask. Hopefully
someone else out there is working with this combo.
The help text for getting this set up to work has you get connected
to Perforce, then switch to the Perfo
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I just finished setting up my own Cafe Press store, for ladies only:
http://www.cafepress.com/wowomen
(ok, guys can wear them too but you might get some funny looks :)
janine
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In my day job I build websites the old fashioned way, using scripting
languages, and I would organize the site I'm building something like
this:
User pages are generally at the root of the site, so we might have
/ - home page
/panels - list of all panels of license plates (these are pictures
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only way to do this is to find each use of the old name and rename it
manually. Is that true, or am I missing some magic feature?
(I tried Google and an Xcode book, but no luck)
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David, thanks for the advice! I think you are right that uploading
one image and generating the rest is a better idea.
Finally, there are lots of opinions of whether to store the images
in the database or on the filesystem. I decided on the former for
ease of management and use mysql as t
I'm building my first WO app (not counting the tutorial) and I'm
stuck. First time of many, I'm sure. :)
My goal is to duplicate this site: http://www.nhlpm.org. We put
that together as a temporary site for a former neighbor, who has a
license plate museum in his garage. Right now it's
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Of course, keeping the database and the file system in synch can
be tricky.
Especially for backups. If someone uploads a new file while your
database dump is in process, it'll be in your filesystem backup but
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All these t-shirt ideas floating around have given me an idea of my
own. If you're going to WWDC and would be interested in having a t-
shirt of our own, please e-mail me. If enough people like my idea,
I'll get it set up at cafepress.com.
janine
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No Anjo. No Chuck. What's going on here?
Since he's Internet-less during the work day, I'll speak for Jerry -
he isn't sure yet if he can go either.
I, however, will be there, and am interested in any and all social
events.
janine
Hi Wolfram,
I hear where you're coming from; I tried to work through this book
once before, but ran into all these little problems and eventually
lost interest. But I am not as big a fan of the Quickpro book as
some others are. I actually want a book I can work through from step
to ste
Hi Paul,
On Jun 29, 2006, at 12:11 AM, Paul Lynch wrote:
He meant that you should replace each of the four area lines above
with the WOArea component, with appropriate bindings. Which is
exactly what he said :-).
Well, I wondered if that was what he meant, but since we haven't done
any
I'm not sure if the author is being unclear or if I'm being dense, but I'm stuck and hoping someone can help me out here:First problem:We created a new project, which is supposed to become the splash page for the Dynamic Movies app. It has an image, and an image map hand-typed in to Main.html whic
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I've been messing around with this combination and something just
isn't right.
If I open main.java in XCode, as soon as I try to change it I get a
warning that it's read-only and an offer to unlock it via the SCM
I've configured. No problem there.
If I open main.wo, I get no such warning
I've never been to a WWDC and I was thinking of going this year, but
so far I haven't heard of any WO-related content at all. The only
thing of use to me in the Development Tools track so far would be
using XCode, and I'm not sure that's worth the time and expense. Of
course, the descript
On Mar 27, 2006, at 5:00 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
Those are my top reasons. There are many more.
I was just reading my e-mail, minding my own business, when suddenly
this infernal whistling started up. I thought it was coming from
the computer, but it seemed to surround me, penetrating my
Ok, now we're getting somewhere. If I can do this on a per-file
basis then that's not quite so bad; it wasn't clear to me from the
documentation that this was possible.
It's still not ideal; it's much more convenient to do "cvs tag -F
stable x.java, x.html, x.js" than it is to look up a
On Mar 14, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:
I'm not sure I'm understanding why your frameworkA and frameworkB
aren't in their own respective svn repository. That way they have
their own version numbers and, of course, your application(s) can
depend on certain versions of them...
The
On Mar 14, 2006, at 12:13 PM, Geoff Hopson wrote:
Remind us againwhy do you want to leave CVS? :-)
Heh. Not such a bad question, obviously!
I started looking into this because moving to WebObjects means
leaving behind nearly everything we have been doing for the last 7
years, and wit
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