- Original Message -
From: Benedikt Kaempgen benedikt.kaemp...@kit.edu
Newsgroups: gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical
To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 6:27 PM
Subject: [Selenium] How to use?
I got following for your answer.
Hi Janesh,
We
2011/2/3 John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Marcin Cieslak sa...@saper.info wrote:
snip
This was a human mistake and it was reverted later. However, there seems
to be no way to tell all the interwiki bots running to stop re-adding this
removed link to articles.
The first issue is indeed that the wrong interwiki has to be removed
on _all_ languages to stop it from returning, but even with that one
could still get into problems because there might be bots that visited
some languages _before_ your removal, and others _after_ it. They
would then consider the
In article 87wrlh3et9@jidanni.org, jida...@jidanni.org wrote:
Better set the Reply-to headers, like they do on
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.mediawiki/36699/raw !
What do you think it should be set to? Gmane retains the original
Reply-To header from the mail (which is set to
Dear All,
I have used two dumps from english Wikipedia as below, the count results
turn out like this, Would you please let me know which one is completed and
can be analyzed? and I am confused why the 2001-2009 had different number?
Thanks very much !!
select count (1),
Hello everybody,
for the Selenium Framework I have a very specific database related issue which
is hard for me to decide. This is the problem:
In order to have a fresh state for every test, we agreed to have a test
database (and image folder, but this is a sidetrack now) for every test suite
Thanks for the quick answer.
Unfortunately, I still don't know how to apply testing to older MW versions.
I am familiar with the documentation, it is good, but does not answer all
relevant questions. But I will figure out...
Keep up the good work!
Best,
Benedikt
--
Karlsruhe Institute of
Hi Benedict,
at the moment, the framework is still work in progress, so it is not shipped
with any current releases (afaik). Also, using it requires some changes in the
includes folder as well as the new maintenance class, which is not available
until MW 1.16. But there is hope for you, I know
Markus Glaser wrote:
Hello everybody,
for the Selenium Framework I have a very specific database related issue
which is hard for me to decide. This is the problem:
In order to have a fresh state for every test, we agreed to have a test
database (and image folder, but this is a sidetrack
River Tarnell wrote:
What do you think it should be set to? Gmane retains the original
Reply-To header from the mail (which is set to the list address by
Mailman), but this means that anyone who replies to a Usenet article by
email will actually end up replying to the mailing list. If
In article iietdr$2sm$1...@dough.gmane.org,
Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote:
River Tarnell wrote:
What do you think it should be set to? Gmane retains the original
Reply-To header from the mail (which is set to the list address by
Mailman), but this means that anyone who replies to a
Roan Kattouw (2011-02-01 10:14):
2011/2/1 Rob Lanphierro...@robla.net:
Can you explain why you're rolling out when it's the middle of the night
where Wikimedia is headquartered? I have a few different theories (site
traffic, time zones of the operations team, etc.), but a clarification here
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Maciej Jaros e...@wp.pl wrote:
Can you set a different deploy date for different projects? E.g. 18.00
UTC for Poland.
Not easily. As a general rule all software goes to all sites at the same
time.
I will not be able to be there when hell will brake
loose as I
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Maciej Jaros e...@wp.pl wrote:
Chad (2011-02-03 20:52):
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Maciej Jarose...@wp.pl wrote:
Can you set a different deploy date for different projects? E.g. 18.00
UTC for Poland.
Not easily. As a general rule all software goes
In article 20110202090948.gd97...@ilythia.tcx.org.uk,
River Tarnell r.tarn...@ieee.org wrote:
I've added all current public mailing lists, and retention is set to
forever, so it also acts as an archive.
I've now added a basic web interface:
http://news.tcx.org.uk/group/wikimedia.
as well as a
Maciej Jaros wrote:
Can you set a different deploy date for different projects? E.g. 18.00
UTC for Poland. I will not be able to be there when hell will brake
loose as I will be working and I'm sure most of the Polish tech admins
will be too. Note that we was able test Vector with current
I just checked and determined that there appear to be no records
yet for the WMF servers.
I have to admit to having been negligent in examining the IPv6
readiness of the Mediawiki software. Is it generally working and
ready to go on IPv6?
Does the Foundation have a IPv6 support plan ready
- Original Message -
From: George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com
I just checked and determined that there appear to be no records
yet for the WMF servers.
I have to admit to having been negligent in examining the IPv6
readiness of the Mediawiki software. Is it generally
I believe the WMF intends to participate in World IPv6 Day [1],
additionally they publish some IPv6 statistics [2]. See also the IPv6
deployment page [3].
[1] http://isoc.org/wp/worldipv6day/
[2] http://ipv6and4.labs.wikimedia.org/
[3] http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/IPv6_deployment
Robert
In article 19663836.4613.1296766691647.javamail.r...@benjamin.baylink.com,
Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
- Original Message -
From: George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com
I have to admit to having been negligent in examining the IPv6
readiness of the Mediawiki software. Is it
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
- Original Message -
From: George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com
I just checked and determined that there appear to be no records
yet for the WMF servers.
I have to admit to having been negligent in
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote:
... It might happen for the next quarterly
release, but not this time around.]
Haha, quarterly releases :p
-Chad
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- Original Message -
From: River Tarnell r.tarn...@ieee.org
It doesn't matter if Apache supports IPv6, since the Internet-facing
HTTP servers for wikis are reverse proxies, either Squid or Varnish.
I believe the version of Squid that WMF is using doesn't support IPv6.
Oh, of course.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:05 PM, River Tarnell r.tarn...@ieee.org wrote:
Does any useful discussion still take place on that list?
- river.
I don't know; did any ever? 8-)
It doesn't matter if Apache supports IPv6, since the Internet-facing
HTTP servers for wikis are reverse proxies,
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
(APNIC runs out of IPv4 space to give to providers somewhere around
August, statistically; RIPE in Feb or March 2012, ARIN in July
2012).
ARIN issued the last 5 available /8s to RIRs *today*; we've been
talking about it
In article 30181972.4621.1296767510190.javamail.r...@benjamin.baylink.com,
Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
- Original Message -
From: River Tarnell r.tarn...@ieee.org
As long as the proxy supports IPv6, it can continue to talk to Apache
via IPv4; since WMF's internal network uses
Our site has 4 skins that display the logo - 3 standard and 1 site-
specific. The site-specific skin uses rounded edges for the individual
page area frames, while the standard skins use square edges. This means a
logo with square edges looks fine for the standard skins, but not for the
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
- Original Message -
From: River Tarnell r.tarn...@ieee.org
It doesn't matter if Apache supports IPv6, since the Internet-facing
HTTP servers for wikis are reverse proxies, either Squid or Varnish.
I believe the
In article aanlktikbwloyhzy4jln6jwkphfjotgo-ppqxfwupf...@mail.gmail.com,
George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:
It doesn't matter if Apache supports IPv6, since the Internet-facing
HTTP servers for wikis are reverse proxies, either Squid or Varnish.
I believe the version of Squid that WMF
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:21 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
- Original Message -
From: River Tarnell r.tarn...@ieee.org
It doesn't matter if Apache supports IPv6, since the Internet-facing
HTTP
In article AANLkTinQPPu_j=0emuaf2xojthqsxdluw0btggu8z...@mail.gmail.com,
George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:
It's not really a 6to4 NAT per se - it's a 6to4 application level
proxy. The question is, what does Squid hand off to Apache via a IPv4
back end connection if the front end
In article AANLkTi=OnSreaXMi3Gc+0==tzoq1jfix63xrkthv6...@mail.gmail.com,
George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:
Q: Are we doing tproxy between the squids and apache servers?
No. But since you mention it, LVS (Linux kernel-level load balancer) is
used for load balancing, for both Squid
- Original Message -
From: River Tarnell r.tarn...@ieee.org
Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
- Original Message -
From: River Tarnell r.tarn...@ieee.org
As long as the proxy supports IPv6, it can continue to talk to
Apache
via IPv4; since WMF's internal network uses
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:35 PM, River Tarnell r.tarn...@ieee.org wrote:
In article AANLkTi=OnSreaXMi3Gc+0==tzoq1jfix63xrkthv6...@mail.gmail.com,
George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:
Q: Are we doing tproxy between the squids and apache servers?
No. But since you mention it, LVS
- Original Message -
From: George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com
It might; how would a 6to4NAT affect blocking?
It's not really a 6to4 NAT per se - it's a 6to4 application level
proxy. The question is, what does Squid hand off to Apache via a IPv4
back end connection if the
On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 21:19:58 +, Dan Nessett wrote:
Our site has 4 skins that display the logo - 3 standard and 1 site-
specific. The site-specific skin uses rounded edges for the individual
page area frames, while the standard skins use square edges. This means
a logo with square edges
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
If we NAT between the squids and the apaches, will that adversely affect
the ability of MW to *know* the outside site's IP address when that's v6?
You're not just changing addresses, you're changing address *families*;
is
In article 9259756.4629.1296769269783.javamail.r...@benjamin.baylink.com,
Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
- Original Message -
From: River Tarnell r.tarn...@ieee.org
Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
how would a 6to4NAT affect blocking?
ISP NATs are a separate issue, and might
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Dan Nessett dness...@yahoo.com wrote:
Our site has 4 skins that display the logo - 3 standard and 1 site-
specific. The site-specific skin uses rounded edges for the individual
page area frames, while the standard skins use square edges. This means a
logo with
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:50 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:
We have a few months, but by the end of 2012, any major site needs to
be serving IPv6.
Unlikely. ISPs are just going to start forcing users to use NAT more
aggressively, use tunnelling, etc. No residential client
In article aanlktikpg8sdnmgwkn2xmw2agqok1gdyuiopf7qbm...@mail.gmail.com,
Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
If we NAT between the squids and the apaches, will that adversely affect
the ability of MW to *know* the outside
In article aanlktikgm845zovsgqpdvq81juhn8wm3rwzcxvbqn...@mail.gmail.com,
Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote:
ISPs are just going to start forcing users to use NAT more
aggressively, use tunnelling, etc.
ISPs will probably do this, but I don't think it's right to say they'll
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
If we NAT between the squids and the apaches, will that adversely affect
the ability of MW to *know* the outside site's IP address when that's v6?
You're
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote:
Front-end proxies need to speak IPv6 to the outside world so they can accept
connections from IPv6 clients, add the clients' IPv6 addresses to the HTTP
X-Forwarded-For header which gets passed to the Apaches, and then return
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:53 PM, River Tarnell r.tarn...@ieee.org wrote:
In article aanlktikpg8sdnmgwkn2xmw2agqok1gdyuiopf7qbm...@mail.gmail.com,
Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote:
There's no reason to NAT between the squid proxies and apaches -- they
share
a private network, with a private
In article AANLkTi=nsymtrlv7dwrpixj-wnrpjkvgwyixs+zjc...@mail.gmail.com,
Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
Is there a standard for using IPv6 inside X-Forwarded-For headers?
There is no standard for X-Forwarded-For at all.
I would think you'd need a new header altogether.
Since there's nothing
I'm glad this thread soon got to the point where we realise the
problem is on the application layer level.
So what are exactly the implications for blocking and related issues
when we will start to see ISP level NATing?
Am I right to assume that we will start seeing requests from say a
global ISP
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 5:10 PM, River Tarnell r.tarn...@ieee.org wrote:
In article AANLkTi=nsymtrlv7dwrpixj-wnrpjkvgwyixs+zjc...@mail.gmail.com,
Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
Is there a standard for using IPv6 inside X-Forwarded-For headers?
There is no standard for X-Forwarded-For at
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 5:10 PM, River Tarnell r.tarn...@ieee.org wrote:
In article
AANLkTi=nsymtrlv7dwrpixj-wnrpjkvgwyixs+zjc...@mail.gmail.comnsymtrlv7dwrpixj-wnrpjkvgwyixs%2bzjc...@mail.gmail.com
,
Anthony
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote:
... It might happen for the next quarterly
release, but not this time around.]
Haha, quarterly releases :p
It's never too late to get back on track.
In article aanlktim3ht9hxau3sgwmfu9mph9gb2rx2misg3vmc...@mail.gmail.com,
Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm glad this thread soon got to the point where we realise the
problem is on the application layer level.
If that was the only problem, this would be much simpler.
So what
Jay Asworth wrote:
As long as the proxy supports IPv6, it can continue to talk to Apache
via IPv4; since WMF's internal network uses RFC1918 addresses, it
won't be affected by IPv4 exhaustion.
It might; how would a 6to4NAT affect blocking?
If the XFF header is right, from mediawiki POV an
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 5:20 PM, River Tarnell r.tarn...@ieee.org wrote:
In article aanlktim3ht9hxau3sgwmfu9mph9gb2rx2misg3vmc...@mail.gmail.com,
Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote:
So what are exactly the implications for blocking and related issues
when we will start to see ISP
On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 13:52:30 -0800, Brion Vibber wrote:
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Dan Nessett dness...@yahoo.com wrote:
Our site has 4 skins that display the logo - 3 standard and 1 site-
specific. The site-specific skin uses rounded edges for the individual
page area frames, while
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
But, supports IPv6 could be as simple as having an http proxy server
which sends (fake) IPv6 XFF headers.
By fake, I mean that there's not even a need for the client to
actually use that IPv6 address, so long as each
On 11-02-03 01:52 PM, Brion Vibber wrote:
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Dan Nessettdness...@yahoo.com wrote:
Our site has 4 skins that display the logo - 3 standard and 1 site-
specific. The site-specific skin uses rounded edges for the individual
page area frames, while the standard skins
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote:
... It might happen for the next quarterly
release, but not this time around.]
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:
You're making assumptions here that the residential ISPs in the US and
Asia have stated aren't true...
I'm awfully sure the assumption customers will not pay for an
Internet connection that only connects to IPv6
Hi,
I think it can be removed safely.
Great to hear!
Although in this case I would just run mysqldump with --skip-extended-insert
so that it doesn't create such long lines.
Yes, I tried that. But there are tables like l10ncache or objectcache that
store serialized objects which produce long
I think it's accidentally happened that two MediaWiki versions were
released less than 4 months apart, but I'd really like to see us get back
to releasing three versions a years again instead of barely 2.
Siebrand
Op 04-02-11 00:17 schreef Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Aryeh Gregor
simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com
wrote:
You're making assumptions here that the residential ISPs in the US and
Asia have stated aren't true...
I'm awfully sure the
Although in this case I would just run mysqldump with
--skip-extended-insert so that it doesn't create such long lines.
Yes, I tried that. But there are tables like l10ncache or objectcache that
store serialized objects which produce long lines even in that case. Still,
I think that should
Platonides (2011-02-03 21:53):
Maciej Jaros wrote:
Can you set a different deploy date for different projects? E.g. 18.00
UTC for Poland. I will not be able to be there when hell will brake
loose as I will be working and I'm sure most of the Polish tech admins
will be too. Note that we was
In article AANLkTi=1foHsEOh25Dr+Df2N4DFXj4iKU0SWXg1xXWP=@mail.gmail.com,
Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 5:02 PM, River Tarnell r.tarn...@ieee.org wrote:
ISPs will probably do this, but I don't think it's right to say they'll
*just* do this. Â In the US,
In article AANLkTi=enp2_sy+g2dt_sw0oq8-05_jjcojgxsdt0...@mail.gmail.com,
George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Aryeh Gregor
simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, but they'll have IPv4 access as well.
There won't be much choice when the ISPs run out of
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 6:29 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:
There won't be much choice when the ISPs run out of IPv4 space to
allocate new users.
As I said - we'll see it in Asia soon enough, and then the US down the
road a bit longer.
You mean, when they have so little
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote:
... It might
On 04/02/11 08:13, George Herbert wrote:
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:05 PM, River Tarnell r.tarn...@ieee.org wrote:
Does any useful discussion still take place on that list?
- river.
I don't know; did any ever? 8-)
It doesn't matter if Apache supports IPv6, since the Internet-facing
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On 04/02/11 08:13, George Herbert wrote:
[...]
Ah, yes. That problem. We're using that hacked up Squid 2.7, right?
I'm not as involved as I was a couple of years ago, but I was running
a large Squid 3.0 and
In article AANLkTikS7Kcenbz94UjhfOYi6usRGSSf5VBrQCpK=v...@mail.gmail.com,
George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:
Broken IPv6 routing will be evident to the providers and users,
because nothing will work. I would expect few complaints to us...
(perhaps naively...)
This is actually more
On 04/02/11 11:39, George Herbert wrote:
Broken IPv6 routing will be evident to the providers and users,
because nothing will work. I would expect few complaints to us...
(perhaps naively...)
There will be complaints. That's what World IPv6 Day is for, besides
raising awareness: it's a day
- Original Message -
From: Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org
It's not necessary for the main Squid cluster to support IPv6 in order
to serve the main website via IPv6.
The amount of IPv6 traffic will presumably be very small in the short
term. We can just set up a single proxy
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On 04/02/11 11:39, George Herbert wrote:
Broken IPv6 routing will be evident to the providers and users,
because nothing will work. I would expect few complaints to us...
(perhaps naively...)
There will be
I would recommend upgrading the Squid cluster because it's run on a
very significantly old version of the software, lacks several years
worth of general patches and maintenance, and because it's not THAT
big a deal. As I mentioned earlier in thread, I spent several years
running Squid (at
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