RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

No worries here Allen, feel free to fire away. It's not like Beech is blood...lol...and it's probably good people see and hear the stories (good and bad) for their own good. I will say in Beech's defense that it sounds like he was saddled with an impossible task. Best, Brad -Original

RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

At 03:38 PM 9/13/2007, Brad Belton wrote: Yes, I remember Jack always speaking very highly of Jay Wright. I never met Jay, but I hear he can sell ice to an Eskimo...a real slick Willy if you know what I mean. Did you have much contact with Jack or Jay? I negotiated the sale of my company dir

RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

At 03:30 PM 9/13/2007, Joel White wrote: Jack was also a consultant for Kite and was tasked with "solving the CPE problem" of the "no CPE needed" Muni-Wifi deployments. LMAO, now Joel, out of respect for Brad I will not comment further on Beech on these boards. Brad drove out of his way to lo

Re: [WISPA] Standard Motorola 5.8 GHz Channel Frequencies

I thought about going, but not after I saw the rates. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:44 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Standard Motorola 5.8 GHz Channel Frequencies

They certainly have been. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Standard Motorola 5.8 GHz Channel F

Re: [WISPA] Standard Motorola 5.8 GHz Channel Frequencies

Gino, Do you (or does anyone) know if Moto Canopy has been FCC certified to operate in the new 5470-5725 MHz frequency range? Thank you again, jack Gino Villarini wrote: >From 5735 up to 5840 in 5 mhz steps, 20 mhz channel width Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadba

RE: [WISPA] Standard Motorola 5.8 GHz Channel Frequencies

I will do that for sure Jack, thanks. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Standard Motorola 5.8 GHz Channel Frequencies Hey, thanks for

Re: [WISPA] Standard Motorola 5.8 GHz Channel Frequencies

Hey, thanks for the search tips. Correct, it's in San Jose Oct. 16-18. Maybe you can pop in and visit our WISPA booth or our reception. It could help you decompress from the WiMAX show :) jack Patrick Leary wrote: I admit I must be sick because I like to spend time searching the FCC datab

RE: [WISPA] Standard Motorola 5.8 GHz Channel Frequencies

Jack, you of all people, as another long time wonk, should know to use the OET database to answer this type of question. Only two PMP with FCC grants for 5.4 GHz that I know of is Moto with Canopy and us with BreezeACCESS VL. Lots of chip vendors of course and a handful of specialty products. Patr

Re: [WISPA] Standard Motorola 5.8 GHz Channel Frequencies

Guys, I think I answered my own question. It looks like 5470-5725 has been approved. To keep list traffic down, there's no need to reply just to confirm. Of course, if I'm wrong I hope that a few folks will tell me. :) Thanks, jack Jack Unger wrote: Gino, Do you (or does anyo

Re: [WISPA] Standard Motorola 5.8 GHz Channel Frequencies

Thanks Patrick, Yeah, I did look in the FCC database, but as occasionally happens with my FCC searches, I didn't find the information there. I guess I need more practice. :) Anyway, thanks for the confirmation. Are you going to make it to ISPCON? jack Patrick Leary wrote: Jack, you of all

RE: [WISPA] Standard Motorola 5.8 GHz Channel Frequencies

I admit I must be sick because I like to spend time searching the FCC databases; I am on them at least 5 times a week looking for something. I think the FCC site has some of the most complete online database information of any federal agency. For those not familiar with the specific search area w

RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

At 10:28 AM 9/13/2007, Patrick Leary wrote: ...And by the way Allen, whatever the route you took to get back, I am just glad you are. As I said before, you were missed. You were, are, and always will be one of the good guys. One day many of us should hit the porch with some scotch, a good laptop

RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

I had more contact with Jack than I desired, but not much with Jay. The two times Jay was in town, I was working on a couple $100,000 dollar deal that MP later threw away, and the second time I was on a trip that brought in an extra 5000 dial-up customers the first year and was slated to go up t

RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

Yes, I remember Jack always speaking very highly of Jay Wright. I never met Jay, but I hear he can sell ice to an Eskimo...a real slick Willy if you know what I mean. Did you have much contact with Jack or Jay? Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

At 10:21 AM 9/13/2007, Patrick Leary wrote: Your tale is certainly a cautionary one. My advice to WISPs is that if you are trying to exit via a sale of the company you built with your blood, sweat, tears and personal dollars ONLY sell for cash. Here is an additional cautionary thought FWIW.

RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

Jack was also a consultant for Kite and was tasked with "solving the CPE problem" of the "no CPE needed" Muni-Wifi deployments. Joel NexGenAccess Inc. www.nexgenaccess.com 740-513-4122 NexGenAccess Inc. -- Original Message --- From: Allen Marsalis

RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

At 01:04 PM 9/13/2007, Brad Belton wrote: Sorry for the confusion. No Jack Beech is my brother's (Jack Belton) brother-in-law. Ah, yeah now I remember you telling me that years ago. I do appreciate you refreshing my memory. Jack Beech was somehow friends of the CEO (Jay Wright) and after

RE: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference Situations

All Steve's points reflect my understanding as well. I do not believe it was intentionally designed to mess with other systems, especially since its initial design was made long before the presence of these systems in the marketplace (even though this was not introduced until 2002 as a commercial p

Re: [WISPA] Standard Motorola 5.8 GHz Channel Frequencies

Gino, Perfect. That's exactly what I needed to know. Thanks so much, jack P.S. - Thanks also to Eric Meuhleisen who also sent this info. Gino Villarini wrote: >From 5735 up to 5840 in 5 mhz steps, 20 mhz channel width Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. te

RE: [WISPA] Malicious Interference & Canopy

Well Mac, the FCC is not unaware of these things. This is part of the reason why EVERY new band opened up since 2003 added technical requirements like ATPC (now mandatory for 5.3 as well). ATPC automatically turns down the power to only that needed to maintain the link. (Some systems, like ours, us

Re: [WISPA] Standard Motorola 5.8 GHz Channel Frequencies

All flavors of Canopy support 5mhz steps. Centers are 5735, 5740, 5745 and so on. I think they are 10-12 mhz wide...i could be wrong on that. -Eric Jack Unger wrote: Could someone advise me what the Motorola Canopy 5.7 to 5.8 GHz standard channel center frequencies are? Also, how configurabl

RE: [WISPA] Standard Motorola 5.8 GHz Channel Frequencies

>From 5735 up to 5840 in 5 mhz steps, 20 mhz channel width Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Thursday, September 13,

[WISPA] Standard Motorola 5.8 GHz Channel Frequencies

Could someone advise me what the Motorola Canopy 5.7 to 5.8 GHz standard channel center frequencies are? Also, how configurable are these channel frequencies? Can other (non-standard) frequencies be configured? Thanks very much, jack -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com

RE: [WISPA] Intrameta / BOSS

Have you seen some of the hardware they use?! In one of my colo towers I looked in their rack. I think I saw both a vacuum tube and a roll of tin foil in there! That rack must have put out 1500W of heat as well. They have since upgraded the equipment so perhaps USAMobility is pulling out of a di

Re: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference Situations

I echo Mike's contention that Canopy was developed directly for use by Broadband Wireless Internet Access Service Providers... but not necessarily the small, highly entrepreneurial Wireless ISPs. In my discussions with some key Canopy personnel over the years, some of whom were remarkably candid,

Re: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

Allen: No corrections - you got it right about Sprint's fixed MMDS customers, using Hybrid Networks gear (is the vendor that took over for HN still around?) called Sprint Broadband Direct. As far as I know, they're still out there, though their numbers are way, way down as Sprint (or their subcont

Re: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference Situations

Canopy was not initially developed for the military. It was built ground up for WISPs. When it was designed, it was the best that there was, but internal issues kept it from the market for a few years. During that time, the market changed and Moto could no longer count on some of the things t

RE: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference Situations

> Behalf Of Allen Marsalis > > BTW, I owe you a steak Mac. If you ever make it to Shreveport, I > will name the place. You won't be sorry. Mac you are one hellova > guy and I will never forget camp sagnasty God Bless. > > Allen > [Mac says] You better watch it - I will be in Shr

RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

I had to read that through a couple of times to get it...Beech is his brother's brother in law. :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Marsalis Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 1:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] The

RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

Sorry for the confusion. No Jack Beech is my brother's (Jack Belton) brother-in-law. Jack Belton is my brother. Jack Beech is Jack Belton's brother-in-law. lol Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Marsalis Sent: Thursday, Sep

RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

At 11:03 AM 9/13/2007, Brad Belton wrote: Thanks for taking the time to touch on some of your experiences with MobilePro. As you know my interest is because Jack Beech is my brother, Jack Belton, brother-in-law. Am I reading this right? Jack Beech is your brother? Your last name is Belton

[WISPA] RE: [Tranzeo] Does any one know of software that can read tranzeo radios signal strength on snmp?

Ok, SEVERAL people asked me for this information so here goes cross posted even! There are several different methods of gaining access to several different statistics on the Tranzeo radios. 1. The Web interface. (slow, slow and still slow... then multiply that by 2-700 radios. 2. Screen scrap

RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

At 10:21 AM 9/13/2007, Patrick Leary wrote: Anyway, after BreezeCOM Bruce went on looking for the Next Big Thing, first trying to lead the old Wave Wireless out of Sarasota, FL. That did not go so well and he went on to start-up a new chip company. That went south and the next I heard was that h

Re: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference Situations

Let me clarify what I was trying to say; if it came across the wrong way, please excuse my irresponsibility of posting at 3:30 in the morning and not necessarily being as coherent as I may like to have been. To some extent, this is a common "issue" for all sorts of businesses--not just WISPs. Mos

RE: [WISPA] Malicious Interference & Canopy

David, You (or anyone) can't impede a man's established business or cause him to not be able to conduct his business without legal recourse. It doesn't have be anything illegal about the noise and it's not about trying to shut out the competition. It's all about co-location and the ability

Re: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference Situations

David Peterson wrote: if he is deliberately attempting to interfere with your business instead of pursuing his normal course of business. As one guy pointed out, I am not a lawyer. This is the direction I would think would be succesfull. Deliberately interfering. Not just performing. -

RE: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference Situations

Clint, You were doing fairly well leading this thread until you stumbled (or smooth fell down) on point #3. If a WISP were to act/re-act in a fashion such as that it would elicit several consequences: 1. Whatever chance the offended WISP had at legal recourse is now defunct and irrelevant. It

Re: [WISPA] Alternate transport providers, Cogent

I will also add... With the exception of one of Matt's earliest comments in this thread, some thing similar to "Cogent is Poor Quality", I agree with just about everything that he said. (He uses Cogent more than he admits, but he's one of the guys that know when and where to use and not to use

RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

Patrick, thanks for the follow up. True, I am very fortunate and lucky indeed. I did not loose any money with my shares and not all the ISP's can say that. Some were only able to sell MOBL after it fell into the teens or lower. I still have a beautiful wife and two healthy/smart kids. And

RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

Hello Allen, Thanks for taking the time to touch on some of your experiences with MobilePro. As you know my interest is because Jack Beech is my brother, Jack Belton, brother-in-law. Jack Beech and his ISP NationWide Internet was instrumental in our early creation of BelWave. Primarily we had a

RE: [WISPA] Intrameta / BOSS

While I have not personally dug very deep - I know that USAMobility (formerly known as Arch Paging / MetroCall paging) use it and it seems to "go down" frequently. My suspicion is that the outages are more Hardware related than Software related Aaron D. Osgood Streamline Solutions L.L.C P.O. Box

RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

...And by the way Allen, whatever the route you took to get back, I am just glad you are. As I said before, you were missed. You were, are, and always will be one of the good guys. One day many of us should hit the porch with some scotch, a good laptop and good wireless connection :) and write a b

Re: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks

No. It worked. They were great engineers. The technology just worked at 128mbps. They failed because they didn;t know how to do math. They were over confident as VC funded companies were back then, and Tower companies hosed them on reoccurring costs, and them approving way to much for their bu

RE: [WISPA] Alternate transport providers, Cogent

Hello Jory - Matt, Thank you for the kind words Jory and the referral Matt. I'm only interjecting here just to clarify that nearly every opportunity presented to BelWave has to be evaluated on a case by case basis. In this particular case there were several criteria that dictated the price per M

Re: [WISPA] Alternate transport providers, Cogent

Tom DeReggi wrote: Cogent's performance is great 95% of the time. Regardless of what anyone says, when ever we see congestion problems, which does happen occasionally, the congestion usually happens several hops after leaving Cogent's network. I'd call this a problem with the other provider. It

RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

Quite a story Allen. I am aware of some minor parts of the MobilePRO saga. Bruce Sanquinetti was the former president of the U.S. subsidiary of BreezeCOM. He left BreezeCOM the same week I joined in August of 1999. He was a pretty mercurial guy from what I gathered by those that had worked with him

Re: [WISPA] Alternate transport providers, Cogent

Cogent's performance is great 95% of the time. Regardless of what anyone says, when ever we see congestion problems, which does happen occasionally, the congestion usually happens several hops after leaving Cogent's network. I'd call this a problem with the other provider. It a complicated game,

RE: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference Situations

Hey Mac, You can disagree with disrespect, this is opinion. :> However, let me break this down for you and others on this thread. If 1 guy moves in the area, follows the rules and raises the noise floor, should you be able to engage in anti-competitive practices by asking that he be shut down

Re: [WISPA] Down South

I know we are expecting some fallout from that hurricane in south MS from the rain. Like we need any more rain rigt now. --- Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How are you guys dealing with that water? They said > the hurricane is going to hover for a while. > > > - > Mike Hammett >

RE: [WISPA] Down South

woOOHOO! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:24 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Down South Water ? LOL - we're 110 miles from where it made landfall and I already have 8inches of wa

Re: [WISPA] Down South

We had some pretty bad flooding a few weeks ago. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Down South Wa

Re: [WISPA] Down South

Water ? LOL - we're 110 miles from where it made landfall and I already have 8inches of water in my yard. Rick Smith - good waterproofing techniques in play... no backhauls down as of yet ! JohnnyO - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA List" S

[WISPA] Down South

How are you guys dealing with that water? They said the hurricane is going to hover for a while. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30

RE: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference Situations

Clint, Your solution as you stated it has no place on the WISPA list. We will not allow this kind of (presumed) advice to penetrate our list. I'm referring to point No. 3 in particular. It goes against the WISPA Code of Ethics and against FCC policy. I ask that you refrain from making suggestio