Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-04-05 Thread Josh
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: > Since we began in '98 we've been using the same windows based email server > MailMax.  Because of some support/productivity issues we are investigating > integrating a new box.  The requirements are: webmail, web management of > indiv

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-04-05 Thread Shaun Hoggan
WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform We really would like to find someone who could do the Google move and give us that .35 pricing as well On 3/29/2011 10:56 AM, Mark Nash wrote: Would someone please tell me who to get in touch with for this $.35 per a

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-30 Thread Cameron Crum
I used to use qmail toaster. It worked great as long as you ran good spam software with it. I ran spamassassin and spamdyke. I hired Eric Shubes to set it up for me initially. If you look at any of the forums for qmail toaster, he is the guy who answers most of the questions. I can get you contact

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-30 Thread Josh Luthman
http://www.ikano.com/vendor/googleapps_vendor.asp Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Blair Davis wrote: > We really would like to find someone who could do the Google move and give > us that .35 pric

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-30 Thread Blair Davis
We really would like to find someone who could do the Google move and give us that .35 pricing as well On 3/29/2011 10:56 AM, Mark Nash wrote: Would someone please tell me who to get in touch with for this $.35 per account price you're get

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-30 Thread Blair Davis
On 3/29/2011 10:56 AM, Mark Nash wrote: Would someone please tell me who to get in touch with for this $.35 per account price you're getting?  I haven't been able to track anyone down about it. Thanks. Mark On 3

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-30 Thread Matt
> The two that I would look at would be qmailtoaster.com or zimbra.com Anyone out there using Qmail Toaster? How does it work? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-30 Thread Chuck Hogg
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Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-30 Thread Cameron Kilton
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Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-30 Thread Dennis Burgess
/routerosbook.com/> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: March 30, 2011 1:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:47, Cameron Kilton wrote: We have over

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-30 Thread Cameron Kilton
This is true and accounted for. I would love nothing more than say "Google, here you go!" and not have to manage the servers. Thanks, Cameron Kilton Project Manager Midcoast Internet Solutions http://www.midcoast.com c...@midcoast.com (207) 594-8277 x 108 On 3/30/2011 2:14 PM, David E. Smith wr

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-30 Thread Scott Lambert
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 02:00:54PM -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Cameron Kilton wrote: > > > > We have over 7400 email boxes. At $0.35 each that is almost > > $2,600/month or $31,200/year. That is a large expense for email. > > What is your current cost for those 7

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-30 Thread David E. Smith
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:47, Cameron Kilton wrote: > We have over 7400 email boxes. At $0.35 each that is almost $2,600/month > or $31,200/year. That is a large expense for email. That's large enough, that it's almost certainly more cost-effective to do it in-house. If I were inclined to mak

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-30 Thread Josh Luthman
oviders to > > > move to Gmail here: > > > > > > http://partneredition.ikano.com/ > > > > > > Shaun Hoggan > > > > > > s...@ikano.com <mailto:s...@ikano.com> <mailto:s...@ikano.com > > <mailto

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-30 Thread Cameron Kilton
<mailto:s...@ikano.com>> > > > > 801-415-8113 > > > > *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org > <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> > [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] > &

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-30 Thread Josh Luthman
801-415-8113 > > > > *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > *On Behalf Of *Mark Nash > > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2011 8:57 AM > > *To:* WISPA General List > > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform > > &g

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-30 Thread Cameron Kilton
oun...@wispa.org] > *On Behalf Of *Mark Nash > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2011 8:57 AM > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform > > Would someone please tell me who to get in touch with for this $.35 per > account price you're get

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-29 Thread Scott Lambert
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:50:38AM -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: > If you're worried about that, then you wouldn't be using Gmail. Would you > use your ISP's email and expect confidentiality? For free? If you are worried about confidentiality, you use PGP, SMIME, or similar technologies. Anything

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-29 Thread Chuck Hogg
While you might say more trusting than you, I look at having Google as a partner to our business contractually bound to an agreement, just like I would with AT&T/Cogent/Level3/Time Warner Telecom. Your upstream can do everything and MORE than Google can, yet you don't recognize that as an issue of

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-29 Thread Shaun Hoggan
o: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform Would someone please tell me who to get in touch with for this $.35 per account price you're getting? I haven't been able to track anyone down about it. Thanks. Mark On 3/29/2011 6:53 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: All I

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-29 Thread Josh Luthman
I think the concern is that a decent exploit would unravel that web. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > I think your thoughts purveyed are a little mis-guided. > > http://mail.goog

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-29 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 3/29/2011 11:09 AM, ChuckH wrote: I think your thoughts purveyed are a little mis-guided. http://mail.google.com/mail/help/about_privacy.html Just a few specific items to list: No email content or other personally identifiable information

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-29 Thread Chuck Hogg
I think your thoughts purveyed are a little mis-guided. http://mail.google.com/mail/help/about_privacy.html Just a few specific items to list: No email content or other personally identifiable information is ever shared with advertisers. Google scans the text of Gmail messages in order to filter

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-29 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 3/29/2011 10:50 AM, FaisalIwrote: >Hi Fred. > >While what you present is a Valid Reason not to use Google.. however >there are other providers who will provide you with the same type of >service (hosted... similar specs to Google) without them harvesting >for example Tucows mail service. I

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-29 Thread Mark Nash
Would someone please tell me who to get in touch with for this $.35 per account price you're getting? I haven't been able to track anyone down about it. Thanks. Mark On 3/29/2011 6:53 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: All I'm going to say about this is that Gmail made my email headaches go away. No mo

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-29 Thread Josh Luthman
If you're worried about that, then you wouldn't be using Gmail. Would you use your ISP's email and expect confidentiality? For free? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Fred Goldstein wrote: > At 3/29

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-29 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Hi Fred. While what you present is a Valid Reason not to use Google.. however there are other providers who will provide you with the same type of service (hosted... similar specs to Google) without them harvesting for example Tucows mail service. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet&

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-29 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 3/29/2011 10:07 AM, Justin wrote: >+1 for Chuck's write up. > >E-mail is a very essential service. People can deal with not being >able to get to certain web-sites, etc. But, when e-mail goes down >that's a big issue to them. > >I had to go through some soul searching on my first outsource to

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-29 Thread Matt
Another option is Atmail: http://www.atmail.com/store/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wi

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-29 Thread Josh Luthman
I agree with Chuck. Every problem I have with Gmail is always getting the customer to log in. It is very difficult for them to type their user name in the box that says user name and their password where it says password. Outside of that customer every few months, zero problems. Josh Luthman Off

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-29 Thread Justin Wilson
g ­ Network Support From: Chuck Hogg Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:53:08 -0400 To: , WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform All I'm going to say about this is that Gmail made my email headaches go away. No more tracking down s

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-29 Thread Chuck Hogg
All I'm going to say about this is that Gmail made my email headaches go away. No more tracking down spam/antivirus issues, no more webmail issues, no more hardware issues with the servers (disks seemed to fail in an email server more often than a web server). No more people getting their passwor

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-28 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
You can slice it any way you like... all I can tell you is that ... when you have evaluate honestly how much time is spent by yourself or someone vs how much you have to pay for the service... for example. Paying someone $75/month to keep linux boxes uptodate and secure is a very inexpens

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-28 Thread Mike Hammett
Exactly, out-sourcing just means you just pay for it indirectly, plus their profit. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 3/28/2011 5:18 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: It all costs some way. You pay for administration, hardware, etc, whether you outsource or ho

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform I can't see why not. On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Christopher Hair wrote: Do you have the ability to do multiple domains with the Google platform? We also offer hosting

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-28 Thread Mark Nash
We are looking for an email solution to replace Everyone.Net. They are $.35 per user. Considering both in-house & out-house. On 3/28/2011 3:18 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: It all costs some way. You pay for administration, hardware, etc, whether you outsource or host it yourself. The time savings

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-28 Thread Cameron Crum
It all costs some way. You pay for administration, hardware, etc, whether you outsource or host it yourself. The time savings for me would be well worth $0.35 per user even in the thousands...may not be for others. Cameron On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Matt wrote: > > Do you have the ability

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-28 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 17:04, Matt wrote: > > Do you have the ability to do multiple domains with the Google platform? > We > > also offer hosting services that need email. > > To do the switch to Gmail I believe you must change all client SMTP > and POP3 server settings. Yuk. Also, depending

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-28 Thread Matt
> Do you have the ability to do multiple domains with the Google platform?  We > also offer hosting services that need email. To do the switch to Gmail I believe you must change all client SMTP and POP3 server settings. Yuk. Also, depending how many email accounts you have $0.35 can really add u

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-28 Thread Cameron Crum
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On > Behalf Of *Cameron Crum > *Sent:* Monday, March 28, 2011 4:24 PM > > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform > > > > I would second qmailtoaster if you have to have your own server.

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-28 Thread Christopher Hair
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform I would second qmailtoaster if you have to have your own server. Personally, I would never run my own server again. At $0.35/mailbox with google or other hosted platforms, the time and effort it takes to keep things updated and blocking spam

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-28 Thread Cameron Crum
I would second qmailtoaster if you have to have your own server. Personally, I would never run my own server again. At $0.35/mailbox with google or other hosted platforms, the time and effort it takes to keep things updated and blocking spam effectively are much more costly. Regards, Cameron On

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-28 Thread Dennis Burgess
t LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS" -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Frank Crawford Sent: March 28, 2011 3:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Se

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-28 Thread Frank Crawford
http://www.mailenable.com/standard_edition.asp There is a free (as in beer) edition and versions with the requirements that you requested. Frank On 3/28/2011 12:53 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: > Since we began in '98 we've been using the same windows based email server > MailMax. Because of

Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-28 Thread Andrew Niemantsverdriet
The two that I would look at would be qmailtoaster.com or zimbra.com They are both open source and run on Linux and both work really well without much headache. Thanks, _ /-\ ndrew On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: > Since we began in '98 we've been using the same wind

[WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-28 Thread Patrick D. Nix, Jr
Since we began in '98 we've been using the same windows based email server MailMax. Because of some support/productivity issues we are investigating integrating a new box. The requirements are: webmail, web management of individuals mail accounts (with password reset), pop3/smtp/imap, can run