Re: 4.3.902 bug report

2003-12-21 Thread Owen Taylor
On Sun, 2003-12-21 at 08:04, Kean Johnston wrote: Which compiler are you using ? CARD32 is typedef'd to an unsigned gcc 2.95.3. The warning is not wrong though. It simply warns that we are passing argument 1 to function pmd5_hash() and add_entropy() from an incompatible pointer type. A

Re: XFree CVS Blocker Bugreport

2003-10-30 Thread Owen Taylor
On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 03:14, Ali Akcaagac wrote: Please bear with me abusing the ML for reporting this bug. But It's quite seldom that I report anything to XFree thus I didn't wanted to open yet another bugzilla account for this. I would like to ask whether it is possible for you developers

Re: [XFree86] Re: XGetWindowProperty returning null prop_return but nonzero nitems_return

2003-10-11 Thread Owen Taylor
On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 20:01, Greg Stark wrote: Owen Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a\0b\0 The second will crash that loop. I forget if the termiminating NUL is required for WM_CLASS or not, but in any case you have to be robust about it not being there. So, uh, I confess I'm

Re: [XFree86] Re: XGetWindowProperty returning null prop_return but nonzero nitems_return

2003-10-10 Thread Owen Taylor
On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 12:44, Greg Stark wrote: Owen Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, that doesn't explain your behavior above. It's either an Xserver or Xlib bug (unlikely, IMO, this stuff doesn't change much at all), or a bug in the application code outside of what you have

Re: using externally built libs (Xcursor, Xrender, Xft)

2003-09-26 Thread Owen Taylor
On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 20:56, Warren Turkal wrote: Here is another patch from the Debian project. It comes in 3 parts. I basically allows XFree86 to build using an externally built libs. http://bugs.xfree86.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741 It wouldn't let me classify into multiple libraries...so I

Re: pkg-config support for libs

2003-09-24 Thread Owen Taylor
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 12:30, Craig Ringer wrote: Should the /usr/X11R6 heirarchy be added to pkgconfig's default config? Perhaps it would be better if pkg-config provided an opaque way to add directories to the search paths. Does it have a config file in /etc. My Debian system doesn't

Re: pkg-config support for libs

2003-09-22 Thread Owen Taylor
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 22:38, David Dawes wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 09:06:43PM -0500, Warren Turkal wrote: David Dawes wrote: I think you have your perspective backwards. Autotools is supposed to handle system differences for the software package, not impose requirements on the

Re: Enum windows in order to get process id

2003-09-16 Thread Owen Taylor
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 13:50, Tim Roberts wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 03:56:36 -0500, theoharis tsenis wrote: i am new in Xwin programming. I made an enumwindow function. For each visible window i get a Window structure. My main consern is to get the process id of the window and i am

Re: [Fonts] About new character set and keyboard driver for XFree86

2003-08-21 Thread Owen Taylor
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 11:32, Batbileg wrote: Dear Fellows, Today, I have joined the XFree8/Fonts forum in order to develop the few things that required in order to increase the use of Linux in my home country. I am from Mongolia and mongolian language characters and keyboard driver is

Re: Xrender transforms...

2003-08-14 Thread Owen Taylor
On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 19:05, Carsten Haitzler wrote: The current plan for addressing the second two is to do it as part of the 'libic' library so the same code can be used in the X server and in the software fallbacks for Cairo. I think a couple of people have taken a look at doing that

Re: CapsLock behaviour and Turkish keyboard

2003-08-14 Thread Owen Taylor
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 08:56, Ivan Pascal wrote: With the actual mode of implementation (not using the Lock modifier), yes, you don't have the problem of it affecting non-alphabetic keys. I would have the problem with it affecting non-alphabetic keys if I didn't use the Lock modifier.

Re: CapsLock behaviour and Turkish keyboard

2003-08-14 Thread Owen Taylor
On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 14:32, Ivan Pascal wrote: Owen Taylor wrote: On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 08:55, Ivan Pascal wrote: Now Turkish keyboard users just have to set XkbOption caps:shift. With that option Xlib doesn't use 'internal capitalization' but CapsLock key acts as 'locking Shift

RE: [XFree86] UTF-8 and Motif?

2003-08-14 Thread Owen Taylor
another multibyte encoding like EUC-JP or EUC-CN (GB2312). Regards, Owen -Original Message- From: Owen Taylor [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: SuSE general (E-mail

Re: [XFree86] UTF-8 and Motif?

2003-08-14 Thread Owen Taylor
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 08:50, Berge, Harry ten wrote: Hi, We have an 'old' Motif application that needs to becomeUTF-8 aware for a Chinese customer. The question is how? Motif doesn't support UTF-8, so basically the advise that we already had was go to use Qt or GTK, don't use Motif

Re: Xrender transforms...

2003-08-10 Thread Owen Taylor
On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 03:22, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sat, 9 Aug 2003 22:07:21 -0700 (PDT) Mark Vojkovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, Carsten Haitzler wrote: Would I be correct in the assumption that the only accelerated path for xrender is the identity

Re: CapsLock behaviour and Turkish keyboard

2003-08-05 Thread Owen Taylor
On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 08:55, Ivan Pascal wrote: Hi, I see keyboard topics are being discussed right now... there is long standing problem with the CapsLock and turkish keyboard that would be nice to have fixed. Yes. There *was* such problem and it was discussed year ago. :-) (I

Re: Change of behavior of shift+numpad arrow keys (withoutnumlock)

2003-08-04 Thread Owen Taylor
On Mon, 2003-08-04 at 09:10, Egbert Eich wrote: Bugzilla 558 requests to change the behavoir of shift+numpad arrow keys In reasonable X GUIs (GNome/KDE), shift + regular arrow key selects text. But if i press shift + numpad arrow key, i get numbers! So the current XKB behavior makes

Re: XSetInputFocus + XEmbed + Keyboard events to the wrong windows

2003-07-31 Thread Owen Taylor
On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 09:29, Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote: Hello, there. I'm currently working on an implementation of XEmbed, and have run into a problem with XSetInputFocus. Please redirect me to the right forum if this was posted to the wrong place. What I'm troubled with is Keyboard

Re: [Fonts] After-XTT's extension of the encoding field.

2003-07-29 Thread Owen Taylor
On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 10:09, Egbert Eich wrote: Owen Taylor writes: On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 04:44, Egbert Eich wrote: The After-XTT project which has picked up the long orphaned xtt truetype font renderer has submitted patches to xtt which recently were committed to the CVS. One

Re: [I18n] What keyboard mapping is loaded when XFree starts.

2003-07-19 Thread Owen Taylor
On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 20:32, Hans Deragon wrote: Hi again. I found something very interesting that explains why I could not generate the c with cedilla previously. In my XF86Config file (XFree86 4.3.0 used), I have the following option: Option XkbLayout us_int With this

Re: [Fonts] Shared fonts and fontconfig

2003-07-17 Thread Owen Taylor
On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 10:57, Andrew Zabolotny wrote: Hello! I decided to set up some central repository which would contain most fonts used in our company so that all running X11 servers would fetch the fonts from the server. This works perfectly with xfs (the old-style X11 font server);

Re: [I18n] Bug #122: US Intl keyboard mapping missing c withcedilla.

2003-07-17 Thread Owen Taylor
Some comments here: * Although there are claims that this applies to French, etc, it's really a pt_BR specific bug. Not because c-cedilla is at all specific to Portuguese, but because the us-intl keymap, which requires this combination to produce c-cedilla, is used pretty much

Re: -fexeptions in library build rules with callbacks

2003-07-16 Thread Owen Taylor
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 13:11, Egbert Eich wrote: We have a bug report at http://bugs.xfree86.org/show_bug.cgi?id=503 that suggests that when building libraries with callbacks using gcc the option -fexeptions should be used. It enables C++ programs to catch the exceptions. I've talked to

Re: Hardware cursor not on desktop?

2003-07-11 Thread Owen Taylor
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 19:04, Chris Edgington wrote: Still working on this siliconmotion upgrade for the 0730 chipset. Running RH9, latest xfree code from cvs. Got hardware cursor working but I'm only getting hardware cursor-related calls in certain scenarios. If I start gimp - hardware

Re: Get pid of a window??

2003-06-25 Thread Owen Taylor
On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 06:02, Martin Ehmsen wrote: Hi... I have a question (I can't seem to find the answer anywhere, so here goes): Given a Window (ex. Window w, from an event or somewhere else) is it possible to determine the program that owns that window? To be exact, I want the pid of

Re: XInput: device name in XListInputDevices

2003-06-25 Thread Owen Taylor
On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 04:13, Egbert Eich wrote: An interesting question appeared on bugzilla (ID #412). According to the man page of XListInputDevices() the string returned in the name field of the XDeviceInfo struct is supposed to be one listed in XI.h. In reality it is a name specified by

Re: [XJANITOR] : bug fix in savage driver

2003-06-05 Thread Owen Taylor
On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 14:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, there are such advantages to using bugzilla, but the above listed steps are a lot more overhead for submission of trivial patches than cvs diff foo.c | mail -s Trivial patch to foo [EMAIL PROTECTED] For a very short

Re: [XFree86] Extended ASCII character input

2003-06-01 Thread Owen Taylor
On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 16:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I am trying to input characters from the extended ascii codes in a Linux/XFree86 4.02 environment (such as holding the alt key and typing 248 on the number keypad to produce the degree symbol). I am trying this on two different Sony

[Fonts] Enhancing AA-but-no-RENDER performance

2003-03-06 Thread Owen Taylor
Basic idea == If you use, Xft + anti-aliasing without RENDER, it's no great surprise that the performance is rather poor, especially on a remote X server. But the following observations occurred to me: - Almost all rendering with Xft is actually on a solid background. - With GTK+,

Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Owen Taylor
On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 14:42, Keith Packard wrote: Granted, if you have hardware alpha blits that will be the fastest way to do this. But if you don't have hardware alpha blits (and lots of cards supported by XFree86 do not), you can still speed up anti-aliased text quite a lot by

Re: what is a proximityevent

2003-02-22 Thread Owen Taylor
On Sat, 2003-02-22 at 04:22, Thomas Zander wrote: As I am still trying to code a driver I am just guessing which Xfree technologies might work for me, since I can't find any list or api docs site.. Can someone please tell me what a xf86PostProximityEvent() would do? I found it in the

RE: xterm and UTF8

2003-02-21 Thread Owen Taylor
On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 12:47, Kean Johnston wrote: There's a libcharset that I think comes with libiconv and is also used in GLib that you can use to work around this problem. Which is fine if you use GNU iconv. For those of us that use the iconv as it was originally invented, libcharset

Re: XCursor: left_ptr_watch does not change with theme

2003-02-04 Thread Owen Taylor
On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 00:04, Brandon Wright wrote: With my attempts at theming Xcursor I have run into a deadlock. No matter what themes I use or create, none of them correctly change left_ptr_watch. Instead, the theme will default onto the left_ptr_watch from whiteglass. I did notice that

Re: If you were writing a Windows and X clipboard integration manager...

2003-01-30 Thread Owen Taylor
Harold L Hunt II [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...how would you do it, in 150 words or less? Seriously, I have been working on this for over a year and I would love to hear some of the ideas that people have because I am completely stumped on how to make such a clipboard manager work properly.

Re: If you were writing a Windows and X clipboard integration manager...

2003-01-30 Thread Owen Taylor
Harold L Hunt II [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Owen, Owen Taylor wrote: Harold L Hunt II [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...how would you do it, in 150 words or less? Seriously, I have been working on this for over a year and I would love to hear some of the ideas that people have because I am

[I18n] Re: [I18n]XIM Protocol Questions: StringConversionCallback

2003-01-22 Thread Owen Taylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hideki Hiura) writes: From: Theppitak Karoonboonyanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Should the client return the string in reversed order? No. The cause of my doubt is that the X11R6.4 Xlib C Language X Interface section 13.5.7.3 Input Method Semantics - String

Re: [Fonts]Dealing with standard bitmap fonts in Xft

2002-12-17 Thread Owen Taylor
Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Around 1 o'clock on Dec 17, Owen Taylor wrote: What I'd basically suggest is that fontconfig should not be pointed at complete set of bitmap fonts in /usr/X11R6/lib/fonts; even if they don't get chosen automatically, they will cause much confusion

Re: [Fonts]Dealing with standard bitmap fonts in Xft

2002-12-16 Thread Owen Taylor
Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FreeType 2.1.3 provides support for .pcf.gz fonts; this is an improvement for XFree86 because it will unify the set of fonts available through server side and client-side font interfaces. Included in this coverage are a few well known families

Re: [Fonts]Compileing fontconfig

2002-12-14 Thread Owen Taylor
Michael Honeyfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I get this error when tring to compile fontconfig:: /usr/bin/libfontconfig.so: undefine reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]' /usr/bin/libfontconfig.so: undefine reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]` My system is not using glibc 2.3, is that the

Re: [Xpert]Decimal key on European keyboard layouts

2002-12-14 Thread Owen Taylor
Robin Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: fredagen den 13 december 2002 02.12 skrev Christian Rose: Hi! When I press , (the decimal symbol key) on the numerical part of my Swedish keyboard in XFree86, I get a . (point). This is obviously wrong, as it should be a comma, the decimal

Re: [Xpert]Re: Linux 8.0 - Replacing Gnome with XDM

2002-12-12 Thread Owen Taylor
Mike A. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In /etc/sysconfig/desktop, set: DISPLAYMANAGER=xdm Actually, I think this needs to be XDM (all caps) It should all be pretty transparent if you look at /etc/X11/prefdm, in any case. Regards, Owen

Re: [Fonts]syntax for disabling using embedded bitmaps for specific font size ranges

2002-12-05 Thread Owen Taylor
Ken Deeter (Kentarou Shinohara) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I'm trying to figure out how to disable anti-aliasing and use embedded bitmaps for japanese fonts and for font sizes 8-14. How does one specify this in the ~/fonts.conf file? Not directly an answer to your question, but the

Re: [Render] Drawing with Transparency (RGBA)?

2002-12-03 Thread Owen Taylor
Ian Britten [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm doing some planning for some of our upcoming development, for which I think I'll be needing some of XRenders new capabilities, and I was just looking for some feedback/status/roadmap-type of info, to see if I'm on the right track, plan timelines,

Re: [Render] Small Xr example

2002-12-01 Thread Owen Taylor
Vadim Plessky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sunday 01 December 2002 10:00 am, Owen Taylor wrote: | People may find the following example: | |http://people.redhat.com/otaylor/x/xr-knockout-example.c |http://people.redhat.com/otaylor/x/xr-knockout-example.png | Speaking about Xr

Re: [Render] Small Xr example

2002-12-01 Thread Owen Taylor
Vadim Plessky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [vad@VPlessky Xc]$ pwd /usr/local/vadim/XrXc/XrXc-20021104/Xc [vad@VPlessky Xc]$ xmkmf mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config [vad@VPlessky Xc]$ make [vad@VPlessky Xc]$ su Password: [root@VPlessky Xc]# make

Re: [Xpert]Re: CRTL-ALT-BACKSPACE broken

2002-12-01 Thread Owen Taylor
Mark Vojkovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Mark Vojkovich wrote: As Alan mentioned earlier, this does seem to be broken. I just synced up on PPC and find that none of the CRTL-ALT- keys work anymore. Can't quit with CTRL-ALT-BS, can't switch VTs.

[Render] Small Xr example

2002-11-30 Thread Owen Taylor
People may find the following example: http://people.redhat.com/otaylor/x/xr-knockout-example.c http://people.redhat.com/otaylor/x/xr-knockout-example.png useful. It contains: - The Xlib boilerplate needed to get a window up on the screen, handle exposes, etc. - Expose compression

Re: [I18n]XFree86 Xutf8LookupString BUG with Solarix X server

2002-11-27 Thread Owen Taylor
Markus Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think I have run into a serious bug with XFree86's Xutf8LookupString implementation. It occurs when the client runs under XFree86 4.[12], but the X server is for example Solaris 5.8 vendor string:Sun Microsystems, Inc. vendor release number:

Re: [Xpert]RH Linux 8.0 - Chips 69030 - Cursor and and keys freeze

2002-11-25 Thread Owen Taylor
Herman Buel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RH Linux 8.0 - Chips 69030 - Cursor and and keys freeze On a new install, the pc will boot and the cursor and KBD freezes almost immediately. The same hardware and setting worked fine under RH 7.0 (XFree 4.01) 7.3 (XFree 4.2.0). Any idea what the

Re: [Fonts]Re: fontconfig and generic family names

2002-11-24 Thread Owen Taylor
Braden McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 18:44:04 -0500, Owen Taylor wrote: Braden McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The fontconfig man page suggests that Monospace can be used to select the users preferred monospace font; but I'm not having any luck

Re: [Render] Query with AA on Opera and Red Hat 8.0

2002-11-24 Thread Owen Taylor
Jack Denman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It does not work at all. XMAG says it doesn't and the appearance says it doesn't. My guess would be that the makers of Opera have done something to avoid linking to the system copy of Qt, and therefore are not taking advantage of the system facilities

Re: [Render] Query with AA on Opera and Red Hat 8.0

2002-11-23 Thread Owen Taylor
Jack Denman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Team, The AA on Opera with qt on SuSE 8.0 is awesome. It's dramatically better than the Exploder(and faster too). Opera AA does not work at all on Red Hat 8.0 even the documentation says that it will, qt dependent or not. Does anyone know

Re: [Xpert]Mouse Cursors

2002-11-22 Thread Owen Taylor
Eric Deveaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Scott Lampert wrote: Is there a simple way to get X to use larger or different mouse cursors? in current cvs tree you can set Xcursor.size to differents values. I run at very high resolutions 1800x1440+ and it gets

Re: [Xpert]FW: Lots of IP traffic, no screen activity - WOW! Exp erts in deed.

2002-11-12 Thread Owen Taylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks for the responses! I hadn't thought of font translation in the mix. Perhaps since both of my examples internally are RH 8, this isn't as much of a problem? How often does this occur? Once per session or every time a screen has to be refreshed? I will

Re: [Xpert]solution to slow window move/resize problem

2002-11-06 Thread Owen Taylor
Jouni Tulkki [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello I have experimented with lwm (light weight window manager). I had noticed that moving windows with the mouse so that window position is updated immediately when mouse is moved was slow. After trying different ways to reduce the slow response to

Re: [Xpert]Re: But *why* no vblank?

2002-11-03 Thread Owen Taylor
Xavier Bestel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le dim 03/11/2002 à 18:47, Keith Packard a écrit : Around 15 o'clock on Nov 3, Michel =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E4nzer?= wrote: Oh, and are there any opinions about the signal to use, SIGALRM or something else? You'll have to make it settable --

Re: [Xpert]But *why* no vblank?

2002-11-01 Thread Owen Taylor
Michel Dänzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fre, 2002-11-01 at 21:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, XSYNC has the right things to allow applications to synchronize on arbitrary things (including vertical sync). If the fbdev and/or DRI folks are willing to support and export an interface,

Re: [Render] interesting article on XFree86 speed

2002-10-28 Thread Owen Taylor
Allen Akin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 10:20:18PM -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: | | There are two latencies: | | 1) Time from mouse motion to when drawing starts | 2) Time from drawing starting to drawing finishing | | I'm mostly considering the second; double

Re: [Fonts]Including Opensource TSCII Fonts With XFree86 for Tamil

2002-10-24 Thread Owen Taylor
prabu anand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm writing on behalf on tamilinix, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tamilinix/ , a team of volunteers localising Linux to our Language Tamil, spoken by over 60 million people in India, Sri Lanka, Singapore, Malaysia, Canada etc.. We would like to add

Re: [Render] memory leaks in Xft antialias emulation code?

2002-10-24 Thread Owen Taylor
Nathaniel Daw [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I wonder if anyone knows of (seemingly massive) memory leaks in the Xft code that does antialiasing when the RENDER extension is absent. I'm using the Xft version (2.0) that ships with Redhat 8, and have noticed that, on my laptop whose video

Re: [Render] interesting article on XFree86 speed

2002-10-24 Thread Owen Taylor
Thomas Roell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In your message of 24 October 2002 you write: Vadim Plessky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Making the Case for XFree86's Speed http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=1905 Comments: http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=1905

Re: [Fonts]fontconfig + xft2 leads to strange effect in Mozilla

2002-09-28 Thread Owen Taylor
Rich Wareham [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I've just installed the fontconfig/xft2 release from fontconfig.org and am using the pre-compiled mozilla binaries available there. When viewing the latest Kernel Traffic (http://kt.zork.net/kernel-traffic/latest.html#1) [#184 for archive

Re: [Render] Projective image transformations

2002-09-12 Thread Owen Taylor
Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The invariant that needs to be preserved is that the alpha values for a transformation of a solid image should be identical to the clip region transformed as a polygon then rendered via the polygon rendering rules. Please remember that the

Re: [Fonts]Re: Using TTF as a bitmap-only file format

2002-08-21 Thread Owen Taylor
Markus Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Owen Taylor wrote on 2002-08-20 14:50 UTC: I'm afraid that a vast majority of programs and OS currently using TTF simple expect them to always have scalable glyphs; what will happen if one of such programs tries to use a bitmap only font

Re: [Fonts]FreeType bug report

2002-08-20 Thread Owen Taylor
Pablo Saratxaga [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kaixo! On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 05:44:13PM +0400, Vadim Plessky wrote: | You should also decide on an extenson name other than .ttf, to avoid | that those bitmap only ttf files get confused wwith real scalable | fonts by people out there,

[Fonts]Korean orthography for fontconfig

2002-08-14 Thread Owen Taylor
The current Korean orthography looks like a combination of KSC-5607.1987 with the complete Hangul Syllables area of Unicode. However, there are fonts out there that only have the Hangul syllables in KSC-5607.1987 ... one example would be the freely available 'Baekmuk Batang' font; such fonts

Re: [Xpert]xmove without xmove?

2002-08-01 Thread Owen Taylor
vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm curious whether the functionality of xmove and similar programs -- redirecting an X client to another display -- can be reproduced without having something like the xmove pseudoserver that intercepts the state-creating operations. Is it possible instead

Re: [Fonts]fontconfig, Xft2, pango-head, gtk2 - play together?

2002-07-25 Thread Owen Taylor
Richard CHAN Shih-Ping [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyway - just for a lark - I installed Ximian's RH7.3 gnome2 desktop snapshot and replaced pango with pango-HEAD; had to recompile libgdk-x11-2.0.so as it picked up libXft.so.1 from somewhere (Q: why not just libpangoxft-1.0.so? Shared

Re: [Fonts]fclang.o missing from fontconfig/src/Makefile

2002-07-22 Thread Owen Taylor
Richard Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wondering if fclang.o is missing from fontconfig/src/Makefile. It doesn't seem to get compiled otherwise. Yes, it's missing from there - I suspect that Keith only tested with Imake. Attached is the patch to fix I had sitting around. You'll need to rerun

Re: [Fonts]fclang.o missing from fontconfig/src/Makefile

2002-07-22 Thread Owen Taylor
Owen Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wondering if fclang.o is missing from fontconfig/src/Makefile. It doesn't seem to get compiled otherwise. Yes, it's missing from there - I suspect that Keith only tested with Imake. Attached is the patch

Re: [Fonts]Font family name problem

2002-07-13 Thread Owen Taylor
Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Around 18 o'clock on Jul 12, Keith Packard wrote: I'll add transcoding for apple-roman names. My intent is to prefer english names, and failing that, to choose the first entry in a known encoding. Well, *that* was entertaining. It almost

Re: [Fonts]Font family name problem

2002-07-12 Thread Owen Taylor
Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Around 16 o'clock on Jul 12, Yao Zhang wrote: These may not be fontconfig's problem but since FreeType 2 has APIs to access any naming table in the font, it is not FreeType 2's problem either. The way I solve this problem is to change FreeType

Re: [Fonts]RE: Font family name problem

2002-07-12 Thread Owen Taylor
[ CC'ing [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Yao Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Owen Taylor wrote: A font that has ?'s in the output with the current FreeType most likely has a TrueType name table with invalid contents ... e.g. Chinese in the English name field. That is not the case for the font

Re: [Fonts]Font family name problem

2002-07-12 Thread Owen Taylor
Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Around 17 o'clock on Jul 12, Owen Taylor wrote: This is what face-family_name is meant to be and face-family_name is defined to be ASCII traditionally so it can't really be changed. (Plus, things are just going to work better

Re: [Fonts]Re: [I18n]Using current locale in font selection

2002-07-10 Thread Owen Taylor
Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Agreed; this choice was somewhat rhetorical in nature... b) use $LANG or $LC_CTYPE? If this road is taken, it has to be determined which env. variables have to be refered to in what order. AFAIK, SUS and POSIX say that it's

Re: [Fonts]Re: [I18n]Using current locale in font selection

2002-07-10 Thread Owen Taylor
Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Agreed; this choice was somewhat rhetorical in nature... b) use $LANG or $LC_CTYPE? If this road is taken, it has to be determined which env. variables have to be refered to in what order. AFAIK, SUS and POSIX say that it's

Re: [Xpert]S3 Graphics Twister K Compaq

2002-07-10 Thread Owen Taylor
Mikael Olenfalk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Xperts! I bought a Compaq EVO n115 some time ago, and I just felt like exchanging this * Windows XP Home with a little bit more powerful GNU/Linux and - of course - XFree86 ;). Just everything went fine until I came to configuring

[Fonts]Re: [I18n]Using current locale in font selection

2002-07-08 Thread Owen Taylor
Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Much as I hate the C locale model, I'm wondering if I shouldn't use the current locale as a language hint where applications don't provide explicit language information when selecting fonts. This would make the generic aliases (like sans-serif)

[Fonts]Re: [I18n]Using current locale in font selection

2002-07-08 Thread Owen Taylor
Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Around 14 o'clock on Jul 8, Owen Taylor wrote: +locale = (FcChar8 *)setlocale (LC_CTYPE, NULL); Don't you mean LC_MESSAGES? If so, I think we should be able to use this return value almost raw; stripping out the language and territory codes

Re: [I18n]Using current locale in font selection

2002-07-08 Thread Owen Taylor
Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Much as I hate the C locale model, I'm wondering if I shouldn't use the current locale as a language hint where applications don't provide explicit language information when selecting fonts. This would make the generic aliases (like sans-serif)

Re: [I18n]Using current locale in font selection

2002-07-08 Thread Owen Taylor
Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Around 14 o'clock on Jul 8, Owen Taylor wrote: +locale = (FcChar8 *)setlocale (LC_CTYPE, NULL); Don't you mean LC_MESSAGES? If so, I think we should be able to use this return value almost raw; stripping out the language and territory codes

Re: [Xpert]PrintScreen/SysRq and Pause/Break

2002-07-08 Thread Owen Taylor
Owen Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unless anybody objects to the above reasoning, I'm going to submit a patch that: * Changes xf86PostKbdEvent() to force convert keycodes KEY_SysReqest = KEY_Print and KEY_Break = KEY_Pause * Changes the supplied xkb maps to remove the mappings

[Xpert]PrintScreen/SysRq and Pause/Break

2002-07-03 Thread Owen Taylor
On PC keyboards, XFree86 generates different key _codes_ for: PrintScreen and Alt+PrintScreen == SysRq and for: Pause and Control+Pause == Break This is an inheritance of a PC keyboard oddity -- different key codes are actually generated. But XFree86 should cover up for this

Re: [Xpert]A few questions regarding the XFree86-DGA extension

2002-07-01 Thread Owen Taylor
Juliusz Chroboczek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MV DGA really shouldn't be used and I regret that it's still in the MV X-server. I would like it to disappear in XFree86 5.0. Mark, I fully agree with your feeling, and I am sincerely sorry to say what I'm about to say. There is no

Re: [Fonts]Font matching with generic family names and language groups

2002-06-30 Thread Owen Taylor
Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Around 9 o'clock on Jun 28, Brian Stell wrote: For Mozilla I add the family + language-group as this seems the closest match. The family (any-language-group) was added when I observed that some X fonts cover larger code sets by subsetting a

Re: [Fonts]Font matching with generic family names and language groups

2002-06-30 Thread Owen Taylor
Brian Stell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For Mozilla I add the family + language-group as this seems the closest match. The family (any-language-group) was added when I observed that some X fonts cover larger code sets by subsetting a larger font; eg: Helvetica-*-iso8859-1

Re: [Fonts]Font matching with generic family names and language groups

2002-06-30 Thread Owen Taylor
OK, some (belated) comments here; after thinking it over for a few days, I'll admit to still having reservations about your scheme. From the least important: - The OS/2 language code page tags are really crufty; about the only reason that they are OK is that we aren't interested in

Re: [I18n]Event generations..

2002-06-14 Thread Owen Taylor
Brian Stell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Viveka Nathan K wrote: ... If I type the vowel character 'D' next to the consonant 'K', the already printed consonant, should be removed and the character corresponding to the combination of the Consonant+Vowel should be displayed. This is

Re: [Xpert]Keyboard input.

2002-06-12 Thread Owen Taylor
Dave Williss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In porting an X server to Windows or Macintosh, it would be possible to let the OS handle all the keyboard input stuff and the X server would just get Unicode. The question is: Is there a standard way to let the X Server pass the client application

[Fonts]~ expansion in fonts.conf dir

2002-06-11 Thread Owen Taylor
I'd like to be able to put in our fonts.conf something like: dir~/.fonts/dir To make it really easy for users to install per-user fonts, but I don't think dir supports tilde expansion right now, just include. Would it make sense to add this to dir as well?

Re: [Xpert]unicode input

2002-06-05 Thread Owen Taylor
James H. Cloos Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any good way to input arbitrary unicode characters via the keyboard in a en_US.UTF-8 locale? I cannot find any sign of an XIM server for this. Everything I've found seems to be targted to CJK input. Is there one that I missed?

Re: [Fonts]Xft2 and pcf fonts

2002-06-04 Thread Owen Taylor
Yu Shao [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Keith, I tested Xft2 with some Chinese pcf fonts, like gb16fs.pcf.gz come with Xfree86 4.2, but seems Xft2 could only find the truetype fonts from directories listed in fonts.conf. How should we handle those non-truetype fonts? I looked at this issue

[Fonts]Re: Font lookup ranges [was Re: Notes on Pango Xft backend]

2002-06-04 Thread Owen Taylor
Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - They pull up a Traditional Chinese document (not itself tagged) in their word processor and see that it is a mix of MS Gothic and AR PL KaitiM Big5. - They select AR PL KaitiM Big5 from the font menu. - The display doesn't

Re: [Fonts]Re: Font lookup ranges [was Re: Notes on Pango Xft backend]

2002-06-03 Thread Owen Taylor
Brian Stell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Owen Taylor wrote: ... Pango already has the language tagging mechanism; the question is how to use this to influence character lookup. a) Call FcFontSetSort() once, get a list, and then when finding a (language-tag, codepoint) pair, look

[Fonts]Re: Font lookup ranges [was Re: Notes on Pango Xft backend]

2002-06-03 Thread Owen Taylor
Yao Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From your coverage map, it is easy to tell which category the font is in. But in my opinion, combining different Chinese fonts together to get a bigger coverage is generally not a good idea. I see this kind of thing happens in Mozilla, GTK+ 2. When I

[Fonts]Re: Font lookup ranges [was Re: Notes on Pango Xft backend]

2002-06-03 Thread Owen Taylor
Yao Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu May 30 13:28:11 2002 Around 12 o'clock on May 30, Yao Zhang wrote: From your coverage map, it is easy to tell which category the font is in. But in my opinion, combining different Chinese fonts together to get a

[Fonts]Re: Font lookup ranges [was Re: Notes on Pango Xft backend]

2002-06-03 Thread Owen Taylor
Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: b) Call FcFontSetSort() separately for each language, and somehow influence the sort order; what we'd like to do is make including the specified language tag have an weight: Language tags are currently given greater weight than family

[Fonts]Re: Notes on Pango Xft backend

2002-05-28 Thread Owen Taylor
Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Operation A) is far too slow to implement into its entirety for each small segment of text, so the bulk of the operation is cached - a infinite sized map from PangoFontDescription to a list of patterns is kept. (So, basically, everything but

[Render] Re: [Xpert]latest CVS xfree and gtk2 apps fail to find font--old libXrender bug back again?

2002-05-26 Thread Owen Taylor
mikepolniak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just updated to latest cvs version 4.2.99.1 and trying to load pan(newsreader) with GDK_USE_XFT=1 gives: ** ERROR **: Failed to match any font. This could be due to a broken Xft configuration, or if you run XFree 4.1.0 due to a bug in libXrender. For

Re: [Xpert]latest CVS xfree and gtk2 apps fail to find font--old libXrender bug back again?

2002-05-26 Thread Owen Taylor
mikepolniak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just updated to latest cvs version 4.2.99.1 and trying to load pan(newsreader) with GDK_USE_XFT=1 gives: ** ERROR **: Failed to match any font. This could be due to a broken Xft configuration, or if you run XFree 4.1.0 due to a bug in libXrender. For

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