Re: [Zope] Zope Scalability

2005-10-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
ZODB size What is the maximum size of this file and/or maximum object ID? => just how many objects can the zodb hold? millions? tens of millions..?? billions...??? I have a feeling we'll run out of ram long before actually hitting the limit but it'd be nice to know the theoretical top limit.

Re: [Zope] Zope Scalability

2005-10-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 5 Oct 2005, at 20:35, Matthew X. Economou wrote: There is no answer to this question because it cannot be answered. No one has come against a "limit" yet as far as I know. Hitting RAM limits depends on the settings you apply to the Zope/ZEO instance(s) that serve(s) the content and how much R

Re: [Zope] Zope Scalability

2005-10-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 5 Oct 2005, at 20:57, Tim Peters wrote: [Jens Vagelpohl] Well, the question was actually "What is the maximum size of this file and/or maximum object ID? => just how many objects can the zodb hold?". There is only a theoretical limit that has to do with the largest index key

Re: [Zope] Re: INSTALLING gcc (and ZOPE) on DEBIAN

2005-10-06 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 6 Oct 2005, at 11:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The whole error message is (after entering the "make" - command) : --- "/usr/bin/python" "/Zope-2.7.5-final/setup.py"\ build --build-base="/Zope-2.7.5-final/build-base/python-2.3" -- build-lib="/Zope-2.7.

Re: [Zope] Zope Scalability

2005-10-07 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
As an aside, we find management of ZEO clients much easier if each ZEO client of a particular system shares the same products and external methods via an NFS share. That way we can untar one product and push it out to all of the clients simultaneously. I'd be a little afraid of creating a sin

Re: [Zope] proxy role for an external method

2005-10-10 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 10 Oct 2005, at 16:49, Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote: I would like to convert this script to an Exteral Method in $INSTANCE_HOME/Extensions. This basically works, but I cannot see any way to specify the proxy role. And when it is not specified the script obviously does not work. Have you *tr

Re: [Zope] proxy role for an external method

2005-10-10 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 10 Oct 2005, at 23:14, Peter Bengtsson wrote: I understood that Plone does some extra magic, so I have to setup a securoty context... I'll post it here if I have a working solution Shouldn't really be the problem. Isn't portal_catalog just another ZCatalog that has nothing to do with Plone

Re: [Zope] REQUEST not accessible

2005-10-13 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 13 Oct 2005, at 11:39, Jürgen Herrmann wrote: up to some time in them i could just write: tal:define="results python:here.Catalog.searchResults()" it seems this isn't working anymore, the catalog would return all brains instead of seraching the relevant ones... (completely ignoreing everythi

Re: [Zope] REQUEST not accessible

2005-10-13 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 13 Oct 2005, at 11:56, Jürgen Herrmann wrote: Apart from whether this worked previosuly or not, it is bad coding practice to rely on assumptions such as "it will somehow acquire the REQUEST". You should really change your code to explicity pass in REQUEST everywhere. Then you can stop worryin

Re: [Zope] REQUEST not accessible

2005-10-13 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 13 Oct 2005, at 13:38, Jürgen Herrmann wrote: what i'm worried about is wether i did break anything else, possibly with even worse results... (i don't like hidden bugs) By explicitly passing REQUEST? I doubt it. No i meant that i already broke something that did work before: obviously so

Re: [Zope] Show ISO-8859-7 Results in a site using UTF-8

2005-10-14 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 14 Oct 2005, at 09:14, Thomas G. Apostolou wrote: def GetData(self, sysDSN="aVoiSys", usr="sa", mypass="atsql2k", sTable="trdt", sFields="*"): id = self.id import dbi import odbc connection=odbc.odbc(sysDSN+'/'+usr+'/'+mypass) cur=connection.cursor() sSQL='Select '+sFi

Re: [Zope] error trying to import smtplib (unauthorized)

2005-10-14 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 14 Oct 2005, at 10:41, Nicolas Georgakopoulos wrote: Sorry for the delay Chris but I read some where that VerboseSecurity is made only for Zope 2.7 and some users recommend not to install that product because it changes the security policies of zope with the authors ... VerboseSecurity

Re: [Zope] error trying to import smtplib (unauthorized)

2005-10-14 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 14 Oct 2005, at 11:02, Nicolas Georgakopoulos wrote: VerboseSecurity is *integrated* into Zope after 2.8, you don't install it separately. You enable it in zope.conf, see the "verbose- security" option. jens Thank's Jens I didn't know that. I find it "verbose- security" option in t

Re: [Zope] Error on starting and stopping Zope 2.8.2

2005-10-14 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 14 Oct 2005, at 17:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. On starting and stopping Zope 2.8.2 (upgraded from 2.8.1, compiled with Python 2.4.2, running on Fedora Core 3) I get the following error. Performance does not seem to be affected. Resolution? # service zopectl start /opt/python2.4.2/li

Re: [Zope] Backing up Zope

2005-10-14 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 14 Oct 2005, at 20:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Can anyone advise me on backing up zope. Our license is going to expire soon, and before we get the new license, I would like to have a backup of my existing setup. Huh? Zope does not have any license that expires... what exactly are

Re: [Zope] Error on starting and stopping Zope 2.8.2

2005-10-16 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 16 Oct 2005, at 19:54, Dennis Allison wrote: Why does Zope lag the release of Python by so very long? Because someone has to spend considerable time to assess impacts on the Zope 2 security machinery. This has been mentioned on this and other Zope lists on various occasions. My unde

Re: [Zope] database connections from external method

2005-10-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
Otoh, what do you think you gain from circumventing ZSQL Methods? Well, i am running zope under root privileges in "read-only" mode. If there is a Zope break-in, i want to minimize interference with the database. Also, since this will be a commercial product, keeping most of the code in c

Re: [Zope] Zope crashing a RedHat installation?

2005-10-21 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 21 Oct 2005, at 20:50, Aaron Bauman wrote: Hi, We're running Zope 2.7.3, Plone 1.0.something relatively large Data.fs ( > 300MB ) Decent amount of anonymous traffic, But relatively low administrative use (1 - 2 users usually). Could these factors be brining the machine down? I've been getti

Re: [Zope] REQUEST.form variables order

2005-10-24 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 24 Oct 2005, at 13:54, Krzysztof Kubacki wrote: Hi my friends :) I've noticed the following situation. When I send internet form onto PythonScript the variables in the REQUEST.form are in the different order that they were as fields in the internet form. I see when I send internet form

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 26 Oct 2005, at 21:43, HaraldFinnås wrote: I've also seen comments that running Zope on RHEL/CentOS might not be wise. My test env. is using FC4, but I'm planning to install CenOS 4.2 on the production server. Unwise choice? I'd be curious to find out who says something like that. It's B

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 27 Oct 2005, at 08:58, Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote: well, on larger shops like ours, the sysadms always want to know why we introduce Yet Another Non-Standard Component to the system setup that cannot be RPM'ed like the rest. And I am not talking across pythoin versions, but oin the same re

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 27 Oct 2005, at 10:22, Sascha Ottolski wrote: Am Donnerstag, 27. Oktober 2005 09:37 schrieb Jens Vagelpohl: The only issues you might ever run into would be problems with the Python that comes with the OS. But then again if you run Zope in production you should never ever use the system

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 27 Oct 2005, at 12:55, Sascha Ottolski wrote: Am Donnerstag, 27. Oktober 2005 13:20 schrieb Jens Vagelpohl: You just noted one more disadvantage yourself: The system Python is likely to be out of step with what Zope wants. Furthermore, updates to the system Python or to add-on packages

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 27 Oct 2005, at 13:30, Sascha Ottolski wrote: Look, it's all about how much risk you are willing to carry. I don't like playing Russian Roulette with services that are supposed to be highly available. And I don't want to have to waste a single thought on problems that *might* develop if RedHa

Re: [Zope] help - my zope build exits with compile errors :-(

2005-10-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 27 Oct 2005, at 21:26, Thomas Wolf wrote: P.S. I'm trying to build this under Solaris 9 using gcc 3.3.2. Solaris, there's your problem. First of all, use GNU tar for unpacking the tarball. The standard Solaris tar is buggy. Second of all, don't expect any good performance on Solaris. T

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-28 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 28 Oct 2005, at 08:03, Einar Næss Jensen wrote: doesn't seem to cause any trouble. So it stays. Just to remind me never to use redhat or rpms. How the bad RPMs you used make you blame RedHat as a whole isn't a jump I can follow... you should be blaming those people who packages the RP

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-28 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 28 Oct 2005, at 10:26, Einar Næss Jensen wrote: How the bad RPMs you used make you blame RedHat as a whole isn't a jump I can follow... you should be blaming those people who packages the RPMs and not the whole distribution. I'm sure Redhat works fine for many people in a lot of businessc

Re: [Zope] Newbe and zope 2.7 bugs?

2005-10-30 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 30 Oct 2005, at 12:42, Tom Redfern wrote: My question is: fix or upgrade? Is it a better plan to track down the problems and fix zope 2.7 as installed vi rpm by Suse, or is it the better plan to upgrade to zope 2.8? Have these issues been addressed? I'm at the very bottom of the develo

Re: [Zope] Issues with pyperl: perl2.so not found

2005-11-03 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 3 Nov 2005, at 04:42, Cameron Beattie wrote: I am attempting to install pyperl and am having an issue where it can't find perl2.so. I think this is one of those ones where it's looking under the stairs for something which is actually in the laundry under a pile of dirty clothes. This

Re: [Zope] About compressing files on the flight...

2005-11-03 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 3 Nov 2005, at 12:41, Enrique Arizón wrote: Maybe is just that I didn't take enough coffee this morning but I have been searching on Google and didn't find any "standard" way to compress uploaded files at flight while uploading to the server. Maybe because there isn't such a thing? jens

Re: [Zope] Can one zope server host to websites with two different IPs?

2005-11-03 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 3 Nov 2005, at 13:55, Allen Huang wrote: Can one zope server host to websites with two different IPs? Can someone teach me how this is done? No teacher needed, see zope.conf. You can have Zope deliver content on any IP and port the user running Zope is allowed to bind to. jens __

Re: [Zope] ODBC DA on zope>2.6.x

2005-11-03 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 3 Nov 2005, at 20:25, Giuseppe Bonelli wrote: What people use as an ODBC database adaptor on Zope 2.7 and above? Is the eGenix.com mxODBC Zope DA commercial product the only serious alternative? In a nutshell, yes. It doesn't cost much for small deployments and it's good software. Just

Re: [Zope] manage_minimize

2005-11-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 4 Nov 2005, at 11:33, Krzysztof Kubacki wrote: Hi, Zope-2-7-6 I would like to minimize cache of my ZODB mounted database by manage_minimize function from PythonScript placed in Root Folder. Why? Do you expect to reduce the Zope memory footprint? That won't happen on most operating sys

Re: [Zope] manage_minimize

2005-11-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 4 Nov 2005, at 12:43, Sascha Ottolski wrote: Am Freitag, 4. November 2005 11:34 schrieb Jens Vagelpohl: Zope-2-7-6 I would like to minimize cache of my ZODB mounted database by manage_minimize function from PythonScript placed in Root Folder. Why? Do you expect to reduce the Zope memory

[Zope] CMF 1.5.5-beta released

2005-11-06 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
pants who are active in supporting the CMF. ...to report bugs? The "CMF Collector":http://zope.org/Collectors/CMF is the place to report bugs (please search for existing reports of your issue first!) - Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Zope] CMF 1.5.5 released

2005-11-20 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
ectors/CMF is ths place to report bugs (please search for existing reports of your issue first!) - Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML

Re: [Zope] External Methods, Proxy Roles, and Executable Security

2005-11-20 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 20 Nov 2005, at 18:47, George Lee wrote: Great, thanks much. Is there much buzz about this in CMF developer land? It seems like proper proxy roles handling, and like you said what Zope 3 security will do to it, are pretty important and will come up quite often (all I was doing, after all, w

Re: [Zope] MD5 Python Zope Plone

2005-11-20 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 20 Nov 2005, at 18:54, D Washburn wrote: I have a need to encrypt a parameter passed on a URL to another website using Python and MD5 encryption. I tried to set up a test python script: This is a FAQ. Python scripts provide a *restricted* execution environment. You cannot just import

Re: [Zope] Proxy setting for Zope and Products

2005-11-22 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 22 Nov 2005, at 15:38, Renfer Serge (EDU) wrote: Hello all, I'm responsible of a server (Debian Sarge) which has been put behind a firewall! I am strugling with proxy problems. For instance, CMFSin doesn't seem to work (for syndication slots in Plone), and LDAPUserFolder cannot rea

Re: [Zope] External Methods, Proxy Roles, and Executable Security

2005-11-22 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 22 Nov 2005, at 20:08, Dieter Maurer wrote: You have lost the thread's start: George's problem has been that he could not move an object in an *EXTERNAL METHOD*, i.e. in trusted filesystem code. He would have the same problem in a filesystem product. The problem is that "CopySuppor

Re: [Zope] init.d script and out of place instances

2005-11-23 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 23 Nov 2005, at 23:59, Fernando Martins wrote: Hi, As far as I can see and tried, the zope2.8 script only deals with instances which are created in the default instance directory, /var/lib/zope2.8/instance/. I would prefer to keep a specific instance of zope in a different directory,

Re: [Zope] Does ZWiki compromise Win2003 security behind a firewall?

2005-11-23 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 24 Nov 2005, at 00:00, Bill Bell wrote: Yes or no. OK, I know it's not that simple. I am working in an agency that employs a third party to manage our network. The third party is reluctant to install Zope and ZWiki for me, claiming that this will open "the system" to "potential attac

Re: [Zope] how to auto refresh the browser with dtml

2005-11-28 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 28 Nov 2005, at 09:53, Allen Huang wrote: how do I do an auto-refresh to my browser with dtml? anyone have any ideas? Please don't confuse server-side code (like DTML) with browser-side code (like Javascript and HTML). DTML cannot refresh your browser. Use Javascript or HTML. jens

Re: [Zope] why will FastCGI not be supported in the Future.

2005-11-28 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 28 Nov 2005, at 12:28, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: I know there is a way to do just the same with mod_proxy, but mod_proxy does open new connection for every request while fastcgi uses the same connection for all requests. The is no problem on low load. But with growing load, this can become

Re: [Zope] why will FastCGI not be supported in the Future.

2005-11-28 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 28 Nov 2005, at 13:05, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 12:43:44PM +, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 28 Nov 2005, at 12:28, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: I know there is a way to do just the same with mod_proxy, but mod_proxy does open new connection for every request while fastcgi

Re: [Zope] why will FastCGI not be supported in the Future.

2005-11-28 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 28 Nov 2005, at 13:25, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: It's a matter of resources, plain and simple. No one has stepped forward to support it, so it atrophied. If you think it's a great thing to keep, volunteer. I would if I had the time and the knowlege. But I don't see a Problem with the Code righ

Re: [Zope] why will FastCGI not be supported in the Future.

2005-11-28 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 28 Nov 2005, at 14:23, Andreas Jung wrote: I agree. There should be one supported way to achive a goal. In the past we had at least three methods to run Zope (fortunately we kicked PCGI support in the past). My suggestion is to deprecate FCGI officially in the docs and through a deprecat

Re: [Zope] why will FastCGI not be supported in the Future.

2005-11-28 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 28 Nov 2005, at 14:52, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: Sure I object. Why should perfectly working code be removed. There is no alternativ for heavy loaded sites which need integration of apache and zope. mod_proxy is no alternativ because it raises the load even further. Sorry, I have to call "Bull

Re: [Zope] Question about Stepper

2005-11-29 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 29 Nov 2005, at 11:12, Peter Bengtsson wrote: Pardon my stupidity but is Chris Withers' Stepper the right thing for me...? yes The call to sendAllUnsent() I would prefer if it was done asyncronously in case it takes several seconds. I could accomplish this by having a cron job calling

Re: [Zope] FOLLOWUP: 120MB file import failures

2005-12-06 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 6 Dec 2005, at 01:05, Michael Dexter wrote: The solution appears to be that python can use the TMPDIR variable to specify where tmp should default to (reportedly it will try various locations) but, I am not clear how I can add this to Zope's rc script to declare it. I tried it as simply

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8.4 install on Suse

2005-12-08 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 8 Dec 2005, at 14:19, Harry Forster wrote: Thanks to all for the very quick response to my request for help. This is the backbone of the open source community. I have been using Zope 2.6 on windows for years and wanted to update and move to a Suse 9.0 machine. I downloaded Zope 2.8.4-

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8.4 install on Suse

2005-12-08 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 8 Dec 2005, at 18:46, Harry Forster wrote: Jens I am sorry to say that I have compiled all software on this machine. I have done so so that I would not have confusion due to different compilers. I think that there is a problem with the manner in which I compile Python or compile usingP

Re: [Zope] zope and LDAP for authorisation

2005-12-12 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 12 Dec 2005, at 11:04, Marinussen, M.J. (Ria) wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a zope product that enables me to use our Active Directory LDAP server for verification of login credentials only. I want users still stored in Zope, and access to directories should be also something I can handle in Z

Re: [Zope] zope and LDAP for authorisation

2005-12-13 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 13 Dec 2005, at 13:11, Marinussen, M.J. (Ria) wrote: I have LDAPUserFolder working in a sense that I can search for users (and find the ldap entries) when I'm in the LDAPUserFolder - Users tab. So far so good. But when I limit access to a folder (in the Security tab on zope) to for examp

[Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] user folder question

2005-12-15 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
please continue there> On 15 Dec 2005, at 16:58, Chris Cole wrote: Hey all, I'm currently trying to setup a custom zope instance for our c.s. department at school. Currently we run a totally linux infrastructure with ldap authentication which we would also like to tie into zope. My question is

Re: [Zope] zope and LDAP for authorisation

2005-12-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 19 Dec 2005, at 13:59, Marinussen, M.J. (Ria) wrote: Hi Jens, I need the full error traceback to help. The full traceback on: Zope 2.7.2-0, python 2.3.5, win32 LDAPUserFolder 2.6 OpenLDAP 2.3.11 When I type the correct LDAP password I get this error and traceback (otherwise I get an

Re: [Zope] question for anyone using apache on windows

2005-12-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 19 Dec 2005, at 16:33, michael nt milne wrote: Does RewriteEngine work on Apache for Windows 2.0.5 ? I'm getting the following.. Syntax error on line 960 of C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/ conf/httpd.con f: Invalid command 'RewriteEngine', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a

Re: [Zope] Can't pickle objects in acquisition wrappers

2005-12-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 19 Dec 2005, at 18:07, Keith Alperin wrote: This is almost definitely my problem as my products keep direct references to other persistent objects all of the time. Out of curiosity, has this always been a poor practice or is it something that changed recently? It's always been poor pr

Re: [Zope] Zope, Apache, REMOTE_USER

2005-12-21 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
I think you missed the point. The main reason to ditch it is the fact that there is no one who is willing and able to support the code for it in Zope. Just because someone comes up with a combination where FCGI might have a benefit still does not give us a developer to support it. jens O

Re: [Zope] apache open proxy configuration problem

2005-12-21 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 21 Dec 2005, at 23:09, Ed Colmar wrote: Hey All.. I'm following up on this thread after lots of different configuration attempts, reinstalling apache2 from source, more configuration attempts, banging my head against the wall, and endless troubleshooting.. Unfortuantely I am still fa

Re: [Zope] mxODBC config probs for MSSQL

2005-12-29 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 29 Dec 2005, at 01:20, Rob Jingle wrote: Error message: ('IM003', 0, '[iODBC][Driver Manager]Specified driver could not be loaded', 8222) This does not look like a mxODBCZopeDA problem at all. You have problems in the layer underneath, the iODBC setup on that box. I'm using the product

Re: [Zope] DateTime().Time() gets Insufficient Privileges error, why?

2005-12-29 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 29 Dec 2005, at 04:53, Jamie O'Keefe wrote: I am trying to get the latest time in a Python Script. I declare: from DateTime.DateTime import DateTime But when I run: t = DateTime().latestTime() or t = DateTime().Time() I always get an Insufficient Privileges error. Instead o

Re: [Zope] Javascript obfuscator and Zope

2005-12-29 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 29 Dec 2005, at 23:45, David H wrote: Hi list, I am wondering if anyone is obfuscating JavaScript using a python script or product. I did some googling but nothing cropped up. Seems like a nice idea unless the realities of javascript obfuscation make the exercise pointless. That

Re: [Zope] ZServer threads and pool-size question

2006-01-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 4 Jan 2006, at 13:23, Pascal Peregrina wrote: Hi, Can anyone tell me why, by default in a zope instance config file, the connection pool size is 7 while the number of zserver threads is 4? Why not 4 and 4? Because under some conditions you can actually have more than 4 connections

Re: [Zope] ZServer threads and pool-size question

2006-01-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 4 Jan 2006, at 13:34, Pascal Peregrina wrote: I understand. So what is the typical value to use for pool-size given a certain threads number: n+3 ? There is no "typical value". Changing the thread number and pool size puts you *way* off-road, fiddling with it should be avoided. You

Re: [Zope] ZServer threads and pool-size question

2006-01-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 4 Jan 2006, at 13:53, Pascal Peregrina wrote: Because I use ZEO, I got lots of often modified objects, and on Zope servers I got lots of memory so I can give it a try ;) Where do you see the gain? More threads and connection also means more caches that need to be updated/invalidated whe

Re: [Zope] ZServer threads and pool-size question

2006-01-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 4 Jan 2006, at 14:11, Pascal Peregrina wrote: So, are you telling me that the ideal configuration is using all default values (connection objects cache size, ZEO cache size, threads and connection pool)? The default values for thread number and connection pool covers all but the most

Re: [Zope] installing zope in a "web" hosted environment

2006-01-08 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 8 Jan 2006, at 14:30, Daniel Gross wrote: Hello, I am using a linux web hosting service, who has recently installed python into apache. Usually i install web products via ftp. After reading how to install zope (and plone), I couldnt find a reference how to install zope using ftp only.

Re: [Zope] installing zope in a "web" hosted environment

2006-01-08 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 8 Jan 2006, at 14:39, Daniel Gross wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 8 Jan 2006, at 14:30, Daniel Gross wrote: Hello, I am using a linux web hosting service, who has recently installed python into apache. Usually i install web products via ftp. After reading how to install zope (and

Re: [Zope] Leave the ivory tower now!

2006-01-09 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 9 Jan 2006, at 13:29, Garito wrote: <13 KB deleted> Please clean up the subject line to remove your spam filter's markings before you reply. And don't quote a whole long discussion including countless message footers only to add one line to the bottom. Thanks! jens ___

Re: [Zope] Multiple CookieCrumblers

2006-01-11 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 11 Jan 2006, at 21:46, Brian Sullivan wrote: I am using CookieCrumbler as an authentication method on a Zope site. I am looking at the feasibility of putting multi CookieCrumbler objects (all with the same settings -- except for the cache setting) on a site in order to allow some parts of t

Re: [Zope] Multiple CookieCrumblers

2006-01-12 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 12 Jan 2006, at 00:39, Brian Sullivan wrote: I will not do what you expect to do. The first cookie crumbler to do authentication sets the cookie and even if other cookie crumblers get involved they will not just overwrite that cookie because the lifetime setting on their cookie is different.

Re: [Zope] Spam-Bounces

2006-01-17 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 17 Jan 2006, at 11:37, Tino Wildenhain wrote: Hi, I'm getting bounces of messages sent to zope@zope.org with aparently large binary attachments. Luckily they are too big to get thru automatically. Looks like spammers are around and faking identities. Is it possible to enhance the list sof

Re: [Zope] Can not authenticate witn zope http server

2006-01-21 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 21 Jan 2006, at 03:03, papi mac wrote: a) Why does Zope insiist on authenticating access to the main page and is there a way to tell it to let me access the main page (the one that talks about Zope and lets you access "manage") without a login? b) Does it make sense to keep trying or is

Re: [Zope] Indexing files

2006-01-21 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 21 Jan 2006, at 13:02, Sune Christiansen wrote: Hei All. I have the following problem: I am building up a ZCatalog and indexing my DTML methods. I use the index type ZCTextIndex and the object function PrincipiaSearchSource. It works fine. But when I try to index my Files (type File) w

Re: [Zope] Can not authenticate witn zope http server

2006-01-21 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 21 Jan 2006, at 13:46, papi mac wrote: [Ok, I'll have access to the machine on Monday and see what turns up. What I don't understanda is why Zope would suddenly want to authenticate access to a page that was always available to anyone. I'll post back after checking the results.] There

Re: [Zope] can't create user with zopectl - Resource temporarily unavailable

2006-01-21 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 21 Jan 2006, at 17:46, michael nt milne wrote: Would you know the unix syntax to assign read, write and execute permissions to a user on a whole directory which is required for running mkzopesintance.py under the non-root user? I tried chgrp and chmod but couldn't get it working command

[Zope] CMF 2.0.0-alpha released

2006-01-22 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
y participants who are active in supporting the CMF. ...to report bugs? The "CMF Collector":http://zope.org/Collectors/CMF is the place to report bugs (please search for existing reports of your issue first!) - Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

Re: [Zope] SSL over Multiple Zope/Plone sites?

2006-01-24 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 24 Jan 2006, at 14:30, michael nt milne wrote: Hi I've got a few Plone sites set-up using Apache through Zope. The question is, I'd like to implement SSL on the site login etc, as it's not secure without this. There's also one site I'd like to serve completely over https. However. I'm

Re: [Zope] SSL over Multiple Zope/Plone sites?

2006-01-24 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 24 Jan 2006, at 14:59, Tino Wildenhain wrote: Jens Vagelpohl schrieb: ... I don't know if making Zope serve out SSL directly helps that (I doubt it) because I wouldn't consider using it. No, it does not. You only add the hassle to deal with nasty zope patches to the scen

Re: [Zope] SSL over Multiple Zope/Plone sites?

2006-01-24 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 24 Jan 2006, at 15:12, michael nt milne wrote: Ok, thanks. The annoying thing is that I am renting a virtual dedicated server which allows multiple domain names obviously but not multiple IP addresses. Or it probably costs more for that. Do you reckon SSL will ever be available for virt

Re: [Zope] SSL over Multiple Zope/Plone sites?

2006-01-24 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 24 Jan 2006, at 15:46, michael nt milne wrote: On 1/24/06, Jens Vagelpohl < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 24 Jan 2006, at 15:12, michael nt milne wrote: > Ok, thanks. The annoying thing is that I am renting a virtual > dedicated server which allows multiple domain names obvious

Re: [Zope] SSL over Multiple Zope/Plone sites?

2006-01-24 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 24 Jan 2006, at 17:31, michael nt milne wrote: ok, they're not technically subdomains but full domains in their own right but served from a single server which has its own domain. Would a wild card work with that? Would the pop-ups still be present when a user enters the site? This wi

Re: [Zope] SSL over Multiple Zope/Plone sites?

2006-01-24 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 24 Jan 2006, at 18:10, David Pratt wrote: I think this should be doable for single cert with multiple domains. Setup you exising ip with one domain (ie. mysecure_domain.com). Get the cert on this domain. Have you tested this? The authentication machinery uses cookies, and the browse

Re: [Zope] Re: Zope vs Plone: performance issues!

2006-01-24 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 24 Jan 2006, at 20:36, Alexander Limi wrote: Check out CacheFu and it's accompanying tutorial. http://plone.org/products/cachefu http://plone.org/products/cachefu/documentation/how-to/crash-course CacheFu is being used on plone.org at the moment. Neither Zope nor Plone are proper delivery

Re: [Zope] Re: Zope vs Plone: performance issues!

2006-01-25 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 25 Jan 2006, at 10:42, Alexander Limi wrote: On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:11:04 -0800, Dario Lopez-Kästen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Start by checking the ZODB cache numbers in the zope-conf file (too start simple). IIRC, the default is 5000 objects. Increase that to, say 50.000 or so (you

Re: [Zope] Re: Zope vs Plone: performance issues!

2006-01-25 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 25 Jan 2006, at 11:36, Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote: Start by checking the ZODB cache numbers in the zope-conf file (too start simple). IIRC, the default is 5000 objects. Increase that to, say 50.000 or so (you mention that you have a busy site). Sorry, but this is not good advice. 5000 obje

Re: [Zope] SSL over Multiple Zope/Plone sites?

2006-01-25 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 25 Jan 2006, at 14:26, Chris Withers wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 24 Jan 2006, at 18:10, David Pratt wrote: Have you tested this? The authentication machinery uses cookies, and the browser will not send cookies that were set by the secure login host to the unsecured sites

Re: [Zope] Zope/Plone logon security strategy etc

2006-01-25 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 25 Jan 2006, at 17:17, michael nt milne wrote: Just a quick question about Zope/Plone logins and security etc. When I go to www.domain.com:8080/manage I get a login box which seems to function in exactly the same way as the www.domain.com:8080/login_form page. My question is, what was the r

Re: [Zope] Zope/Plone logon security strategy etc

2006-01-25 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 25 Jan 2006, at 18:55, michael nt milne wrote: Hi Yeah I know the security aspects are good once you are in, however when you login it's possible for someone to grab your logon name and pass as it goes over the internet, as there's no encryption at all. Then obviously login themselves and c

Re: [Zope] Structured Text Question

2006-01-25 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 25 Jan 2006, at 22:07, Asad Habib wrote: On Wed, 25 Jan 2006, Jaroslav Lukesh wrote: Is there any way to have multiple lines of empty space between two sections of text in a Structured Text document? I looked on Google but did not find any answers to this question. However, I did notice

Re: [Zope] dealing with scripts that take too long

2006-01-25 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 25 Jan 2006, at 22:17, martin f krafft wrote: we're experiencing problems with certain maintenance scripts, which just take too long to complete, so that the browser resets the connection and Zope aborts the transaction. I am assuming you use broken browsers that will time out, like IE? U

Re: [Zope] Re: dealing with scripts that take too long

2006-01-25 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 25 Jan 2006, at 22:56, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.01.25.2352 +0100]: I am assuming you use broken browsers that will time out, like IE? Use a more suitable browser like Firefox, those don't time out by default. As far as I c

Re: [Zope] Product refreshing in Zope 2.9

2006-01-30 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 30 Jan 2006, at 15:01, Peter Bengtsson wrote: That's not good enough. The only thing that changed between my development environments was the version of zope and then it stopped working. Python product refresh is crucial to zope2 and this problem needs to be sorted out. I'm calling bullshit

Re: [Zope] zopectl not starting properly

2006-01-30 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 30 Jan 2006, at 19:03, sharif islam wrote: When I run zopectl start, it says daemon process started. But I get connected refused when I try to go to port 8080. Then if I check the process, I find zope is not running You can get more debugging output by running it in the foreground: ./zope

Re: [Zope] zserver-threads

2006-01-30 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 30 Jan 2006, at 22:43, Einar Næss Jensen wrote: how many do I need, and how will I know? You do not need to worry about it unless you have a really unusual setup. The default is fine for 99.9% of all situations. jens ___ Zope maillist - Zo

Re: [Zope] Re: Product refreshing in Zope 2.9

2006-01-31 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 31 Jan 2006, at 12:02, Peter Bengtsson wrote: That's why I, like others in this thread, don't care about refresh. Like I mentioned elsewhere, with my setup, restarting zope is gravely inferior to zope-restart for product development. I'm happy to share my setup to Open Source but it's qui

Re: [Zope] Re: Product refreshing in Zope 2.9

2006-01-31 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 31 Jan 2006, at 13:05, Peter Bengtsson wrote: And I don't understand how Zope product refresh doesn't have a higher attention priority when it's so useful. As far as I know, it's the only way to make changes to a zope2 product without having to restart the server causing downtime and lost ses

Re: [Zope] zserver-threads

2006-01-31 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 31 Jan 2006, at 14:59, Jake wrote: I just spent a few minutes googling it and failed, but I thought I read on the Zope wiki that for higher trafic sites, it was better to have bigger caches (50,000+) and fewer threads (2). The term "high traffic site" doesn't mean a thing when it comes

Re: [Zope] zserver-threads

2006-01-31 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 31 Jan 2006, at 15:01, Jake wrote: http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/threads-vs-cache-size That article contains little information to back up the conclusions, and some of it is patently wrong. Another case of hearsay and half- thruths being propagated by well-meaning but uninformed

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