In the latest years I've focused on game developmet pipeline, and I have to say that is it really interesting world
Games like The Last of Us, Shadow of the colossus and The Witcher 2 really impressed me and I started to do my own stuff with the game engines available Overall right now you have all the tools to create a game, and most of them are free Cryengine right now, beside the Frostbyte engine ( Battlefield 4 ) is one of the advanced engine I've ever seen, its damn impressive and the way its build allows you to quickly put all your stuff in the engine and test everything in a relative short amount of time. Unfortunately, due to the impossibility right now to export a rigged character from Softimage to Cryengine I almost gave up with it, hopefully FBX import will be available. With UDK I'm really familiar and, even if its a bit old style, the features and the documentation behind it allows you to build an entire world, even without scripting you're able to do amazing stuff. I also applied a bit ago for the Cryengine Cinebox, but since then seems that they wont allow anyone to use it, so for my short movie I switched directly to UDK. Its powerfull, thousands of games are made with it and the community is really strong, so if you need help you'll get a fast response and there are literally thousands of tutorial both on youtube and for sale. I've made a couple of tutorials for UDK, especially the export from Softimage using Species, and soon I hope to show my tech demo which will feature mostly stuff that can be achievable by combining Softimage and UDK. Unity has become really popular, especially for indie developers, because of the small price and for the huge community behind, also because you have access to the entire engine, so you can do whatever you want. I've played around with it, but since I'm going towards a more powerfull engine personally I'm using it only for prototyping, and its quite good. It lacks the powerfull graphical power of the other engines, but its really versatile and overall its growing very very fast. Don't forget that lots of companies are betting on it, especially Maximo which allows you to buy lots of stuff to build your game. With Mechanim and all the other features they really improved this engine, so the future looks very promising. Overall those game engines are showing what could be achieved in a game, both with gameplay and storytelling, and I have to say I'm really impressed by all this 2014-03-02 18:36 GMT+01:00 Francisco Criado <malcriad...@gmail.com>: > Hi Tim, > > yeap, already made my first tests on cryengine and unity. The first one > has amazing graphics but just couldn´t give it the necesary time to do > something different than fps. In Unity was different, everything is > possible, is very very friendly like a softimage concept :) but graphics > ouch, they really hurt for someone used to CG. What i liked a lot from > cryengine was the tools for rapid prototyping, like the paint tools for > models and textures. > Tried UDK (just a couple of hours a few times) but didn´t like the ui, was > like maya or worst, max.Saw the tech demo of UE4 and yes, amazing > grapchics. Maybe is just a matter of getting used to the ui. > Even though it would be nice to get hands on cryengine cinebox, but it > seems they are in a closed beta. > Do you know if there is an option in Cryengine, that would let me output > the game in full view without crytek´s ui? like Unity on UDK. > Thanks in advance. > F. > > > > > 2014-03-02 14:15 GMT-03:00 Tim Leydecker <bauero...@gmx.de>: > > How about giving udk, cryengine or unity a try? >> >> I´ve found that spending time with udk, then cryengine helped me >> grow as an artist,especially in terms of modeling and shading/texture >> mapping. >> >> It is quite rewarding to have your own character run around and to play >> with it. >> >> UDK is reasonably well covered on youtube to get into it and lets >> you use most of it´s sample files as a base for your own prototype game, >> including the default animation library to make bots run (at least for a >> start), >> even if it is more difficult to make things work initially, that´s a good >> start. >> >> Cryengine may probably feel easier to get into, because it´s sandbox and >> file structures >> are more clearly recognizeable as from the windows/microsoft world but >> the small print >> has to be read and properly understood, none of the sample files can be >> in your prototype, >> IF you plan on releasing it for free or at all. Also, atm, the sample >> skeletons (in sample files 3.4) >> don´t go well with the engine version 3.5.7, so you´ll have some grief >> making your own character >> work with the cryengine animation system (in progress/change atm, too). >> >> I would think unity is the most flexible option but I didn´t get around >> to play with it >> sofar because I landed a job on a project which (as usual) pretty much >> brings everything >> else to a halt. >> >> In terms of movie vs. advertisement vs. games. I´m a male, tripple AAA >> blockbuster type of guy, >> that´s what sets the bar and that´s where most of my money will go. >> Getting money out of it >> I find more difficult, mostly because getting access to such projects is >> still difficult >> in Germany, there´s only a handful of places to look for work at and >> overly generalizing, >> they get those high profile jobs because they try to cut into that >> market, not because >> they´ve set the reference for others. Again, that´s overly generalising >> and should not >> be understood as speaking poorly of fellow artists. A great many of my >> former collegues >> have moved away to get access to better projects&opportunities not >> sufficently available >> to them here in Germany. Myself, atm I´m at a shop I like, nice projects >> and nice collegues >> but I don´t know for how long this´ll be, simply given the amount of work >> available and competition >> for these jobs on a show in general. >> >> Personally, I´m looking forward to games, unreal engine 4 looks sickening >> good. >> >> If I project that linearly ahead 1-5 years, bamm. Real, in real-time. >> With story. >> >> Nice. >> >> tim >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 02.03.2014 17:48, Francisco Criado wrote: >> >>> Same as Mauricio here, what i think is that these kind of games that >>> have more a storyline like a movie than first person shooter games, are >>> quite interesting in terms of >>> production.You see all the effort and detail they put in every area, and >>> its quite similar. >>> >>> In terms of ethics, selling coke, alcohol or cigarettes is the same as >>> making a jackpot game or a fps game, in my opinion. >>> Just thought that working in a game production would be same like film >>> or better, animated features, completely different than tv ads, where we >>> are always running, and if someone >>> on the marketing office says "more red" people start crying, jumping >>> from buildings and drinking energy drinks until they die! You know what >>> they say, "ad, love it or leave it" >>> >>> F. >>> >>> >>> >>> 2014-03-02 9:07 GMT-03:00 Maurício PC <goneba...@gmail.com <mailto: >>> goneba...@gmail.com>>: >>> >>> >>> That's actually a nice input and could generate a nice discussion >>> about it. >>> >>> I do agree in some extend ... MMO is not something I would want to >>> work, but take this game for example "The Last of Us", I thought they spend >>> a lot of time creating a good >>> history that works like a movie. >>> >>> So that game I would like to be a part of. I haven't played games in >>> years, but after seeing the documentary I got a will to play this game at >>> least. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Stefan Kubicek >>> <s...@tidbit-images.com<mailto: >>> s...@tidbit-images.com>> wrote: >>> >>> __ >>> >>> My very personal experience with games is that when you come >>> from Film/Advertising you don't want to transition to games for two reasons: >>> >>> 1.) Money. All the places I've been in pay considerably less >>> than what you can earn elsewhere (esp. commercials), and telling a story or >>> vision (assuming that this is the >>> prime motivation in pretty much any artist, whether they know it >>> or not) is a lot harder and convoluted than in pretty much any other media. >>> >>> 2) Ethics. You produce something that steals peoples time on a >>> much larger scale than any single movie or ad ever could. Online >>> slot-machine type of games are even worse, >>> where people can loose a fortune. I played a lot of games when I >>> was a kid and I know first hand that they can be very addictive, and I >>> don't want to make money exploiting >>> other peoples addictions. To me that's just...bad karma :-) >>> Educational games are an exception to that, but having certain >>> expectations towards what is considered "quality" in a game (artistic and >>> technical excellence, both of which >>> usually require higher budgets than what is commonly available >>> in education) will most likely make you want to do something else, or leave >>> you frustrated. Mind you, during >>> the making, and some time after, I considered Manhunt2 the >>> single most rewarding game I ever worked on (Rockstar), in which you can >>> sneak up on people and "execute" them >>> by poking their eyes out with a glass shard or choke them with a >>> plastic bag. How f#%&§ed up is that? While most of this was so over the top >>> up to the point where it was >>> already strangely funny and entertaining again from a grown up >>> players point of view, there are not only grown ups playing these kind of >>> games, and many grown ups are not >>> grown up to begin with. Of course you can lean back and say: Not >>> my problem, it's peoples own decision what they play, and parents >>> responsibility to look after their kids >>> and what they play. Or you take responsibility yourself and just >>> not make that kind of stuff in the first place. >>> >>> If anything, making computer games made me stop playing computer >>> games entirely. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> they did an amazing job! does any of you guys that work on >>> games came from film or comercials? i wonder how to make the translation to >>> the game industry being a generalist. >>> >>> F. >>> >>> On Friday, February 28, 2014, Stefan Kubicek < >>> s...@tidbit-images.com <mailto:s...@tidbit-images.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks for the link Nicolas! >>> Naughty Dog is completely insane when it comes to >>> details and atmosphere - always outstanding work. >>> >>> >>> >>> Interesting behind the scene of a good videogame,and >>> some technical info >>> (Maya) >>> The shocking thing is that they key facial >>> expressions.by <http://expressions.by> hand,which I >>> found completely insane... >>> >>> Exclusive | Grounded: The making of The Last of Us < >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0l7LzC_h8I&feature=youtube_gdat> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> --------------------------------------------- >>> Stefan Kubicek ste...@keyvis.at >>> --------------------------------------------- >>> keyvis digital imagery >>> Alfred Feierfeilstraße 3 >>> A-2380 Perchtoldsdorf bei Wien >>> Phone: +43 (0) 699 >>> 12614231<tel:%2B43%20%280%29%20699% >>> 2012614231> >>> www.keyvis.at <http://www.keyvis.at> >>> >>> -- This email and its attachments are -- >>> -- confidential and for the recipient only -- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> Stefan Kubicek >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> keyvis digital imagery >>> Alfred Feierfeilstraße 3 >>> A-2380 Perchtoldsdorf bei Wien >>> Phone: +43/699/12614231 <tel:%2B43%2F699%2F12614231> >>> www.keyvis.at <http://www.keyvis.at> ste...@keyvis.at <mailto: >>> ste...@keyvis.at> >>> >>> -- This email and its attachments are -- >>> --confidential and for the recipient only-- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> gonebadfx.com <http://gonebadfx.com> >>> >>> - your source for bad fx >>> >>> >>> >
